I am new to both but just wanted to say that I am very much impressed with HubPages. I put up some stuff there first and then found out about this site. So, I put up a few things here as well. The difference is incredible. Both sites are relatively easy to negotiate and work. But the views for those postings are 34 to 1 in favor of HubPages. The amount of traffic I am seeing here is awesome. I think it must be a tribute to the community. I just wanted to compliment everyone here on my experience so far.
Kidgas, welcome to hubpages! Don't worry about feeling overwhelmed here at hubpages...we all have to start somewhere. I can relate since I feel so overwhelmed at squidoo. Their lens-creation methods are dizzying compared to hubpages!
Glad to have you here.
Welcome to HubPages and thank you. I think you will thoroughly enjoy your time here and make some awesome friends.
Thank you very much Dame Scribe. 103 Hubs must have been a lot of work. It took me 2 hours to do my latest. I am clearly impressed with some of the totals that I see. It just seems overwhelming somewhat.
I have to say, I prefer HubPages over Squidoo. It does take some work in preparation of the content that goes into the hubs, however it is very rewarding. Welcome to the community and much success!
Thank you very much, Lucey. I am pleased to be here. I also enjoy the preparation and writing. I like to organize my thoughts and teach others. I hope that people will find my Hubs useful and informative.
I never had any luck with Squidoo. Never got anything near in traffic in what I get with Hubpages. From what I've read, Squidoo webpages are losing the Google love they once had.
Thanks all. Right now views are 43 to 4 in favor of Hubpages.
That may not always be the case. Going with both sites is a good idea though. When I first started, hubpages was doing better than squidoo.
Currently that is not the same story.
I have 87 lenses and 70 hubs
I have 681 visits on my lenses in 7 days
I have 251 page views on my hubs in 7 days.
One site may have good traffic one day and another may be doing better another day.
At least while you are waiting for hubpages to pay off to you in adsense, you can work with squidoo and get your rankings up and get some income coming in that way. Within a few months being with them, I was able to get payout real easy.
Both sites are similar in nature, but are also very different.
Now views are 68 to 4. Of course I now have 8 hubs vs 3 pages over there, but that is because of the initial results and reception I have received on this site.
I think Squidoo lost do to spam mostly and maybe a little do to the adult content.
I think the best thing hubpages members can do is to read through some of the new hubs that are published and flag or report anything that does not fit the rules. Rate down anything that may not violate rules but is low quality. Actively report users that are creating many junk profiles and spamming with copied content.
When you see junk, go look at the profile pages. If they have a profile page for of it, send HP a message to check out the users other hubs as well.
In regards to the porn that filters did not catch, I emailed hubpages a few weeks ago because I found 50+ profile pages using google search [search code="porn + hubpages"] with no hubs but the user was abusing the system trying to get backlinks to kiddie/animal/rape porn from their many profile page. I've seen pages with full on nekkid porn content (one a picture of a girl who looked barely 16), image clips from porn (ya, I recognized it).
I understand that the photo galleries bring traffic, but without offering text content, what does the search engines think about this. In my opinion regardless what the hub is about, posting 10 pictures with less then a paragraph of text is not quality content.
Any hub with less then a paragraph of text and a link is not aquality article. Thats a social bookmark.
Maddie can't find everything all on her own and the filters can't get everything either. If hubbers want to keep this place in googles favor so that we can earn for years to come, then we have to actively help to get rid of the junk.
That is a great point. I think HP admin can utilize the community a lot more with regards to this issue.
I also wish they would get a lot more serious about taking down duplicate content. That does not result in Google love either and ends up being bad for everyone.
So true, thanks for that! Vigilance is really necessary here and I am quite new but would hate to think of low-quality junk dragging down HP.
I have really fallen for HubPages & many of you Hubbers yourselves, so I'll certainly try to do my part in this area. I hadn't really thought of it in this context before (duh) - I just kind of rolled my eyes when I'd see a really bad hub. <---very rare for me so far, btw!!
Just a little FYI. I wrote on Epinions (one of the first get paid to write articles site). I published articles from, 2000 to 2005.
The urls are awful for SEO purposes on my epinions articles. I had no idea how to write for search engines (ya, still learning). The majority of my articles are for products that don't even exist, yet I am still making passive income from them. Article writing isn't long term as in 2 to 4 years. Good, evergreen content will be good so long as the content is relevant. This could be 2 years, could be indefinetly.
When I write on Hubpages I'm looking at long term earnings with my evergreen articles and knowing that they are truly possible. Even if I stopped writing today I want a good percentage my articles 5 to 10 years from now to still be earning at the very least, what they are already earning now. I write on a few other article sites but I focus on hubpages because their earning system is in the best interest of the writer and the company. I went through having high expectations with earnings at Epinions and having them squashed when the website changed how they paid from page views to some secretive complex algorithm.
The very best way to ensure that hubpages members are able to continue to earn and make good money 5 to 10 years from now is to keep the site clean and free of junk. The articles don't have to be anything special, some people write unique content that doesn't say much. As long as the word count is good and so are the keywords, google loves it. This is good for adsense and good for hubpages. What is bad is duplicate content, substandard content, adult content that links out to bad neighborhood websites (good for adult sites, bad for public article sites), etc.
I look at going through the new articles list and flagging some of the bad ones as doing my part to make sure my own work is going to continue getting its best chance for long term earnings.
Hubpages for sure..
I love this hubscore. I feel genuine content is available here on hubpages other than Squidoo.
Good comments from everyone. Please let me know if there are any issues about the quality of my content. I want to leave a positive legacy on the internet that will be useful for years to come.
I write for both sites and I find that in this forum, people put Squidoo down and in the Squidoo forum, people put Hubpages down. I think that is just normal. But, since I am very happy with both sites, I defend Squidoo here and Hubpages over there.
I just created a hub on my experience on Hubpages thus far and it touches on Squidoo as well. You can check it out here. http://hubpages.com/hub/hubpages-earnings
One thing that I have noticed is that there has been a sudden increase on Squidoo and on my blogs from bing.com. Bing is the new microsoft search. However, I don't see any traffic to my hubs from bing. And, I don't see hubs ranking yet in that search engine.
I appreciate all the responses. My guess is that it is not a good idea to take my own original work and place it on both sites. While that seems like an efficient way of doing things, it sounds like it would be frowned upon by the search engines.
Am I correct in this assumption?
Plus if you try to duplicate your content here, hubpages will catch it and your hubscore will go down.
It seems like a short cut, but it's anything but efficient. What you can do though, is if you have two articles about the same topic, both original, you should publish one here and one there and link them. The result, twice the chance at getting traffic.
Now if you linked identical articles a person clicking through will get no benefit whatsoever.
As Trekkiemelissa says, "Both sites are similar in nature, but are also very different." And sometimes those differences are very similar, you just need to know what the difference is to instantly know how bits of the other one works. I wrote about it here.
Thanks Trekkie for the info. I assumed that would be the case. But, it sure makes for a lot of writing and having to come up with lots of ideas. My head spins just thinking about it. I guess the idea is to take one step at a time. I think I will work on Hubpages til I get to 30-50 Hubs (the traffic is a nice ego boost) then work on Squidoo til I catch-up. Then work back and forth adding and adding. If I can add about 5 per week, that would be an accomplishment.
PS--Made my first 0.01 in adsense today so I got a penny for my thoughts.
Thanks, darkside. I read your Hub. It was very informative. I don't know if I have any links at my lenses. I am just starting to figure out what this all means. I will go check and see about adding some.
Welcome! I´ve had the same experience as you´ve had in regards to traffic, low on Squidoo vs. Hubpages.
Hi, if you ask a question on hubpages, obviously you will find more people preferring hubpages instead of squidoo :-) Thats the reason they are there...
That said, i also prefer hubpages over squidoo..
I tried Squidoo but it wasn't for me, didn't like the fact that money seemed to be grouped into some kind of collective pot from which those who had been there longer and who had more hubs took a bigger share of the cash, rather than rewarding people on a hub by hub basis like on Hubpages.
Quick update: 96 views to 7. I now have 11 hubs total and of course that will play a role, but I appreciate the traffic. Plus, I actually have 6 views from Google.
I tried to read a squidoo lens once but it just gave me a headache. There is a lot to be said for a cleanly designed web page.
That's exactly the kind of thing I was planning to say after I finished reading everyone else's posts. I thought it was "just me", but I like how HubPages is just kind of "straight and to the point" visually (as well as in how the site operates in general). I signed up with Squidoo ages ago, and I just never bothered doing anything. Too much "visual overload" - or something.
126 views to 8. I am working on a few more Hubs which should be finished later today.
I am with hubpage for over two weeks and I also joined squido one day back.To me hubpage is more user friendly and faster than suido.And of course,response from the friends are awesome.I love
It's funny the way somethings click and others don't. But I've never been able to get into squidoo. I can't even get into it for the free backlinks.
But I've loved Hubpages from the start.
I think part of the reason some people get Squidoo is because they start with Squidoo before they came over here. I am not talking about 1 or 2 lenses, but a fair share of them.
It also helps that some may be technical minded. That does not mean that all are like that as I do know some that do stick with Squidoo are not, but they learned the system.
Some that have stuck with it, they succeeded only because they asked for help. Everyone works at a different pace.
I like it because I get something every month even if its not a whole lot. Its still more money until adsense finally does pay off and that does take time depending on how well your hubs do each month.
Each month, my squidoo earnings have improved.
That goal to $100 for adsense is getting closer too
I would tend to agree with you that there is oft times a level of comfort and familiarity with a certain platform when one starts on that platform. I find the same thing with other websites.
Traffic update: 163 Hub views vs 7 lens views (one was even taken away on the stats page which I don't understand).
I am on the both sites, and find that one has more of a way of selling what it is you produce. where the other (This one)is about writing. I am on this one now to improve my English, which is still not that good. I am working also hard to lose accent.
I started off with squidoo and thought the world of them. That is until i joined HubPages.
But i must admit that not being able to put banners and individual product links on HP bothers me. Its so easy on Squidoo.
But traffic is poor on squidoo and i love HubPages for the very clear details of page views you can get on 'my account' page. That is apart from other great qualities.
I like the traffic source update stats. I can tell that I am getting a lot of traffic from one of the forums where I placed a link. I am somewhat surprised by this, but it has been incredibly effective. Right now I am just looking at generating traffic. I am refusing to even look at earnings until at least the end of June if not later. I am on track with my traffic goals which are modest, but it is a good feeling. Hopefully, someone is learning and being helped by what I have to say and offer.
Hubs up to 196 views.
Welcome !! I really have not taking the opportunity to utilizr squidoo so I truly cannot compare. This I do know I am a hubpage addict.
I like that sign ... NO PORN ...when we make a Hub. I also had found one those *photo* Hubs with girls on them in their panties ...my 2nd day I think and wasn't even aware I could flag dumb, yeah but I know now
I am now up to 250 views on my Hubs. Can't even comment on Squidoo. No views added there in almost a week. Of course, I am spending my time here currently.
I am pleased that I am meeting my traffic goals of 1 view per hub per day. Plus the slim majority is outside traffic as well.
Another brief update. I am now up to 342 views on HP. It may be even more since there have been some problems with the stats portion of the site recently.
Now over 530 views on HP. I am certainly impressed with the amount of Google traffic relative to Squidoo.
Update on Squidoo: As of July, they are removing all porn pages from the site. The new TOS no longer allows porn or x-rated pages. fyi....
Thanks, I had read that. Maybe I can move up in the rankings.
I was a previous squidooer before joining hubpages. I had around 40 or more lens over there and a good income every month but then everything stopped and I deleted all of them. I have found hubpages better than squidoo. It is not complicated too.
I published my first lenses (Squidoo) about 2 weeks and my first Hubs 4-5 days ago. I posted basically the same number of pages on each site in the same structure (about 15 spoke pages pointing to one center page). The topic is the same on Squidoo and HubPages but the content differs. I did the Squidoo and HubPages for backlinks to my site, not necessarily traffic. And the HubPages link to my Squidoo pages.
After publishing my lenses I pinged them, did RSS feeds, bookmarked them, lens roll, got about 15 backlinks from an article distribution, etc. but after 10-14 days they were still not indexed by Google. I published my hubs about 10pm, did a digg for the center hub and at 7am the next morning the HubPages had been indexed by Google and the digg was #1 on Google for my keyword. And low and behold, my Squidoo lenses, (which remember are linked to from the HubPages) had finally been indexed.
If wasn't my goal and it hasn't been long but no Google traffic to either so I can't comment on that aspect but from my experience, Google shows more love to HubPages.
Hubpages has a much better writing contract than most sites. You retain ownership and publishing rights on Hubpages. Sites like Helium and Triond can use your writing forever without your permission and not pay you a dime. I checked out Squidoo...Naaaaa!
HubPages now, after all of Squidoo's recent lame changes. I didn't like those at all.
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