what happens if you live in a house with one computer, and you have to share it with another person in your hosue, then you still have same IP but really are not the same person, right? How do you see soemone's IP anyway?
oh. like, fan mail? or a comment on a hub? I know for a fact, 100percent sure, alter egos can and do argue with themselves. And I think its just to get things stirred up, or for a laugh. I get a kick out of it when I see it.
Well people could argue with themselves in the same post for that matter but they don't because others would think they are mental. [no they wouldn't] yes they would [you're an idiot] oh that's right, get offensive [you started it] no i didn't [yes you did] go away troll im not going to entertain you [you will] no i won't [ha you just did]
That used to be done at mp3.com years ago with a guy who posted as Father Time getting a lot of mileage out of it and becoming a very well known indie musician because of his online exposure. He would claim that the aliases posting as slightly altered versions of his handle were not him and were making objectionable remarks to give him a bad name. He is still around and I have a hub about his new musical project. It was impossible to say who was posting.
A woman calling herself Marissa Marchant did likewise and posted a lot of insulting threads aimed at anyone reading them as well as stalking some members of the community. She made outrageous claims like she was selling her CDs for $1,000 because she was a true artist and that was their worth and that she was in the top percentage genius factor but just about everyone esle was ¨putrid bullocks." lol
She was a very talented singer-songwriter and pianist and I was one of the small few who actually corresponded with her and I know she was real but there were posts being started saying she was a hoax, that she was mentally ill, schizophrenic, and all sorts of stuff. Marissa told me once that if she posted polite messages she hardly got any hits but if she upset people she could watch the traffic rise. She used to go to forums of an established star and post insults there too.
Eventually she quit having an online presence but there is still a lot of stuff on the Internet about her.
It works but it is very antisocial although I must admit I have found some of it amusing!
Sorry, tantrum, poker and black jack yield better odds. It's all how you play the game. With cards, you know your opponent and you know your risk. With multiple avatars, you are shooting into the wind.
I know what you mean. I'm so much busier now that I'm "not working" I can't even believe it. Really I'm always working, but since I'm at home it seems like the time flies by. There's never enough of it.
Most ISPs do not funnel a lot of traffic through a single IP Address any more, AOL being a notable exception. And, even when they do the group of Hubpages active forum posters is not so large as to make it a much of a issue, statistically speaking. Obviously you can never be completely sure who is at the other end of the wire.
It probably does happen here and I know for a fact it has happened on other sites.
There was a notorious case on LiveJournal awhile back where a woman (mentally ill, I suspect) had literally dozens of sock puppet accounts who would troll or support her according to which would get her the maximum possible attention at the moment.
Do you think more people have 'sock puppet' identities here than don't? What would be a good reason for having a second identity at the same site?
I've thought of starting a second one to write commercial hubs under, but I never seem to get the inclination to write a commercial hub. I always feel like I SHOULD, but then I get freelance project and let it slide.
I think there's a vast difference between creating an account to heckle and creating one for commercial etc reasons. I've just done the same (as Sandra did) but it's not a hidden account or for anything other than off-loading my scribbling.
Each to their own. But the really funny stuff is when folks argue with themselves. Reminds me of my ex-husband. We'd argue without my mouth ever opening. It was a special talent he had
You know, Pam, I have enough trouble arguing with myself in my own head, and it takes so much time. I can't see the reason for projecting my aspects into different avatars/personalities here, let alone having them argue over who is the better of me. Great thread you did, girl.
I'm of 4 minds on this (but they all go by the name of "Lisa" on here).
Mind 1: I understand that people use other identities for business reasons and don't see it an issue. (Think I'll create an account for "PragmaticProfessional" for this mind.)
Mind 2: When people use their alter egos for other purposes the whole concept that "they're" all on here kind of cracks me up. (Although I suppose there could be some sense in one person's many identities "ganging up" in the forums, it would be pretty stupid for that person to waste his time arguing with himself. ) (Maybe "InnerChild" needs her own account.)
Mind 3: I know the Internet has a high percentage of baloney on it, so it's just something I accept. ("CynicalRealist" could use her own account sometimes.)
Mind 4: In a small way, I kind of think people should just stop with the BS online and just be honest. I don't think people need to share all their personal business or other info they don't want to share, but there is that part of me that thinks if someone says/writes something it would be nice if it weren't BS. Using a pen name is one thing (I'm not above that, myself), but creating a giant lie of an identity is a-whole-nother thing. (This is from the mind of "GrownUpLisa".)
(Oh.....signing off. My three other selves are having a big brawl over whether we get a cup of coffee, black tea, or ginger tea; and one of them keeps insisting that a cookie would be good too. I gotta go before someone gets hurt. I'm so sick of breaking up these brawls! I don't know why these people just can't all get along! )
People do stuff like create one for an account that has all poetry on it, and another one for an account with Hubs that are all about, say, electronic products. I don't necessarily see it as unfair (although I do only have one account here, myself).
None taken moi friend, the difference is I do it for pure amusement and just for a wind up. Be different if I actually thought I was 2 people although I miss Cabin Girl not being allowed on the forums, she was a nice girl and I was just getting to really like her
I have found myself to be consistantly to be my best and most reliable company, and I regularly have conversations with myself. Unfortunately my HubPages alter-egos all pretend they don't know each other. It's sad in a way. Snif.
It would mean actually meeting real people, if I can't stand half the virtual peeps on here do you really think I want to meet real people. I don't like people, they let you down, they moan all the time, never smile and jeeez every damn thing offends people these days. It amuses me on here what offends people, it really does.
I think what he meant is there are people that dislike me and there are but I love it. A friend once told me she hated people talking about her behind her back. I said wise up I love it because if they dont talk about ya it means yer boring which is why I love the interest of Doggyboy and Tantram, I just loveeeeesss it lol
If I was writing serious I would keep my real pic up but it deff didnt bother me having my real photo up. I have given up on making money on here but you should keep your photo up, tis a nice pic and it lets your reader relate to you. My hubs from now on will be back to the 3rd person Captain hence the Pirate pic, hope that helps and forget troll comments, I do !
Thanks, that does help! I'm to the point where I do get a monthly payout, so I'm hesitant to just disappear. I have started to just ignore trollish remarks. I don't delete them, I just don't respond at all.
I know CC, of course I love people I was just trying to get a reaction, I am a people person and a people watcher. People fascinate me and I love everything about them. If we were all the same life would be really boring. In all honesty there is not one person on here that I dislike, I have loads of faults and I have the good sense to allow for others faults.
Most of what I post oh here is just an act, ya know, course you do you wise old sage
I am cheerful and people in general are bad, they moan about everything as these Forums prove. Like I was at the dentist yesterday and she hurt me, did I complain, I got a puncture and had to buy a new tyre did I complain, nahhhh I didnt so jeeez peeps stop yapping on about silly trivial crap !
I know man and I know its a laugh, I dont mind anyone having a laugh at my expense because a Forum should be just that. If ya cant take it dont give it, I do give it but I can take it. You actually brighten the forum up because mainly its as boring as my granny and they buried her 5 years ago and thats the last compliment ya get from me
My oldest was real shy , neat kid ,friendly ,likeable ,mischeivious, but shy , anyway he joined this 'medi-evil club thing' they dressed up as knights n wenches...camped out and wrote plays, 3 of the guys had horses ,they got into it for 2/3 yrs ,but honestly he loved it and socially blossomed...he was 20 yr old at the time...
The club grew from 8 people to almost 200 in 4mths!!..of course hes moved on , but he was able to find something creative to 'be himself' be it a couple of months or a couple of years.
ps. Nows he married and bills , wonders why hes tired all the time ..
I know for certain there are people with multiple identities on here who argue with each other, or try to stir things up...especially in the areas of politics and religion. Sometimes it's cute or funny, sometimes (especially lately - these are some seriously nasty trolls on the boards) its annoying and plainly mean. (And for the record, , they are mainly, quote, quote, conservatives and into the shock jock...or whatever...routine).
This is actually something of a technique, called 'issues trolling' or 'concern trolling.' But what it amounts to is the same old manipulation...Lately, it's gotten press for being taken offline:
"Although the term "concern troll" originated in discussions of online behavior, it now sees increasing use to describe similar behaviors that take place offline.
For example, James Wolcott of Vanity Fair accused a conservative New York Daily News columnist of "concern troll" behavior in his efforts to downplay the Mark Foley scandal. Wolcott links what he calls concern trolls to Saul Alinsky's "Do-Nothings," giving a long quote from Alinsky on the Do-Nothing's method and effects: “ These Do-Nothings profess a commitment to social change for ideals of justice, equality, and opportunity, and then abstain from and discourage all effective action for change. They are known by their brand, 'I agree with your ends but not your means.' ”
In a more recent example, The Hill published an op-ed piece titled "Dems: Ignore 'Concern Trolls'." Again, the concern trolls in question were not Internet participants; they were Republicans offering public advice and warnings to the Democrats. The author defines "concern trolling" as "offering a poisoned apple in the form of advice to political opponents that, if taken, would harm the recipient."
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