Let me start by saying I'm a true Southerner, and most of us from old Southern families worship the etiquette deity. Have you heard the joke that explains why Southern women don't participate in group sex? Too many thank-you notes to write.
I'm saying this so you'll hopefully understand where I'm coming from. Do most of you try to respond at least some of the time to comments on your hubs? I do. I at least thank readers for stopping by. I'm sure I miss one occasionally, but I do make an honest effort. I also try to read and comment on others' hubs every day, and 90% of the time, the writer leaves a response. But then there's that other 10% - the ones who NEVER respond, no matter how many of their hubs I read and comment on. How long would it take for the hubber to simply post "thanks."
My question: Am I expecting too much?
good joke...yes I try to respond to every comment made on my hubs...
I respond 99.9% of the time and if I miss one and catch it later on , I wrote a true apology to them.
Now I'm officially confused. I've read on other writing sites that it is "bad netiquette" to respond to responses to your own writing.
My inclination prior to seeing this argument unfold into some honestly almost ridiculous heat, was to shower "my readers" with appreciation, and return the favor, commenting favorably if their stuff strikes me so.
So, yeah. Now I'm curious, too. Which is it? Should we respond, even if just a quick "thank you", or are we obliged to avoid "artifically inflating" our article's traffic? I'd love to know. Thanks.
-stan
if you look at some of the top hubbers who have been here for years and know online etiquette, you will see that most of them do not comment after each comment, some rarely comment. it becomes a bit narcissistic as was stated before to comment on your own writing after each comment. I believe some do it to increase their comments... which to me is artificial.
the particular hubbers I'm thinking of have blogs, websites plus hubpages and have been active in the online world for many years. from what I know and have read about online etiquette concerning blogs, articles, the writer should acknowledge those that leave comments and may leave a thank you. personally, I think a thank you is very nice, but not necessary after every comment.
No, I do not think you are expecting too much. if someone comments on my hub, I will comment on there hub. I am polite, and feel this is part of the hubpages community.
Habee, how do you know whether they respond or not? Do you make a note of every Hub you leave a comment on, and go back and check? I think not.
Saying thank you on your own Hub is like saying "thank you" after someone has left the room - pointless, because in most cases the commenter will never come back to see whether you said thanks or not. I will comment back if I have something meaningful to say, but not otherwise.
no, matter of fact I have already replied to the comment you left on my hub
Uh oh, did I forget to respond to one of your comments on a hub of mine?
Hi, Yes I always respond because I am one of those sad people who like the idea of talking to people in other countries! finding out the sort of things they do, etc It still fascinates me to think that I can type something one minute and have an answer back quickly even though we are across the world! I think I had better shut up I am showing my age!...Nell
Actually, that is a source of never-ending amazement for me, too. I'll just hide my age if that's okay.
Yes, you may be expecting too much. People are on this site for many reasons, and have varying degrees of involvement with the "community." I think a 90% response rate is actually quite astounding.
I always stop what I am doing and respond immediately to each comment, it's the least i can do in appreciation that they took the time because we all know how much time leaving comments can take - time consuming and overwhelming, so I say thank you to every comment, cheers
Hi Habee,
It's a very fair question. There are many hubbers here who take their fan base and fandom very seriously. Being a good fan is important to them. I can see it is to you as well.
I think you can never, ever go wrong with commenting back to people who leave comments on your hubs. Now, if you get lucky enough to log on and find 20 comments on one of your hubs, that's a lot of "thank you" comments. You could leave a general "thank you"and just mention everyone's name.
But I agree with those above who say different people here have different motives. I go by the saying, "Keep your own side of the street clean." Better to be concerned with your own behavior. Others will or won't reciprocate -- and that's on them.
I agree,I try to respond to everyone.
If someone takes the time to read one of your hubs, then goes one step further and comments on that hub...the least you can do is say thank you.
I try to keep up with my replies, and as a relative newbie I still find the concept of communicating fearlessly within a community of writers globally is nothing short of thrilling. So, I guess it's a two-way street.
Um, I just checked my E-mail. Sorry about the late reply, habee. I guess I should get a little better about my replies.
I do respond, but not after every post, but I will always thank each person for commenting. I think with the nature of sites like this where comments are allowed, some people respond and others don't. I certainly wouldn't take it personally. I think everyone appreciates a genuine comment whether it's given a thank you or not.
some are more time constricted than others and may be at work and it's impossible to respond after each comment.
I come through every other day or so and respond to comments in groups. I do appreciate comments but I think its a little narcissistic to keep coming back to make replies to comments on a hub you just wrote, afterall in my case I just spent 1200 words expressing my opinion. Honestly, if you want to really interact with the author and start a conversation why don't you just email them then? Do people really need that kind of constant reinforcement that says you've been noticed in order to feel validated and real, by seeing a reply that says yes I read your words. If you like someone's hub then comment but to say they don't appreciate you, or are being rude is a little judgmental and arrogant at least. Maybe some people work alot or have busy lives. Maybe they don't have time to reply to every single comment. Maybe they feel as I do that some comments speak for themselves and to reply would cheapen the sentiment and seem a little like always trying to have the last word. People come to read my hubs and I am grateful, but my space for talking was above the comment box.
Well Scott, I read this and just had to respond. Even if you have taken the space above for your talking. I can agree with your sentiments, but I have to admit I'm one of those narcissistic individuals who just LOVES to come back and read the comments. Maybe I am just not as confident as some of you guys (because you are all good). The comments most often are encouragement (for me at least) to keep it up. I'm glad you're grateful for our comments, but I think that comes through because you are always commenting on our hubs. So, in your own way you do show your gratitude - no?
I admit that I sometimes do not answer comments. But also, when I leave a comment on someone else's hub I don't usually go back to see if they commented back unless I asked a specific question.
I attempt to comment after ever comment left. I may not always make it before several are left and if that happens I will try to address each person in one comment box.
It's just good PR the way I see it.
Then again, I'm a southern gal myself.
Im coming from the complete opposite side of the fence here.
On other hubs, when im really interested and I end up reading the whole thing and than scanning through the comments only to see
commenter says:
4 days ago
Oh man... what a great hub idea
writer says:
4 days ago
Thanks, I appreciate your comments!
candism says:
4 days ago
Very helpful, thanks!
Writer says:
4 days ago
Thank you for visiting and commenting, Candi
Commenter says:
4 days ago
This really applies to me Thanks for writing this, I shall definitely keep these tips in mind.
Writer says:
4 days ago
Im glad i could help, Thanks for reading.
commenter3 says:
4 days ago
The pictures looks wonderful and you have some really good ideas
Writer says:
3 days ago
Thank you for reading and and your commenting
and so on and so forth
It just seems like a bunch of people giving high fives to each other, rather than an actual continuation of the topic..so personally if a comment doesnt add value, I rarely even accept it anymore...most of the time I will leave it up for a bit right after it was submitted because i do appreciate that someone took the time to read and comment...its just to bad it nots something suited to be visible for posterity on a public page..that being said, just leaving it up for a little while is the best compliment I have for those short little comments.
when someone adds a valuable piece of information or asks a question, they get a proper response and Im excited to feel that the reader actually read to the end and has curiosity for more or wants to share information with me.
the "thanks" button is a little arrow that says rate up..at least in my eyes
compared to the rest of the people in this thread i feel bad ..so i will say everyone who leaves a comment, i click on their hublink and read their latest hub, if its good for one of the networks I work with, ill twitter it out (to 5.7K ) or share it on facebook (900 people), if i can add value, i will comment if i cant.. ill rate it up
I dont think this is rude behavior..its more like our hubs are little businesses and we each have different dress codes
I always respond to comments ASAP. Mind you, no one knows I exist but still . . . IF I am online I respond as soon as I find out about a comment. There was a time I didn't know how to do it or didn't even notice but now I pretty much respond as soon as I know.
In fact, there are a special couple of hubbbers who communicate with me via e-mail on occasion and I respond to them ASAP, too.
I don't always know if people have responded to MY comments but if you comment on MY hubs I answer as soon as I possibly can.
Mind you, if you are one of the people who send me pictures for my one hub series I get back to you almost as fast as I get back to you few special hubbers.
maybe it's easy for me to say that since I have a lot of hubs but most people still don't know I am here.
Um, Scott, I read my initial post again just to make sure, but I didn't call anyone "rude." In fact, that word did not come up at all. I was just wondering how others felt.
Like most of you said, when I get several comments in a row before I can respond, I don't make several posts to address each reader. I do it all in one post.
I appreciate everyone's input, and like I said, this might just be a "Southern thang." lol. Gosh, I know everyone is busy with work and families!
Habee I didn't say you said it was rude but this is the third thread about not replying to comments that I've seen in the last month and they're all pretty much the same, and what you were implying is that its rude, I think we all picked up on that. If what I said did not apply to you then it shouldn't offend you at all.
I try to make a comment after every comment just to let the reader know that I appreciate his or her input. Sometimes I don't know what to say to them, but I make an attempt. James Watkins is probably the best example of an author that makes comments after every comment. His comments usually are a continuation of his hubs. I guess its just a matter of preference really. There is no rule that you have to reply to every comment. I have heard that more comments make your hub more attractive to search engines, but there is no proof of that to my knowledge.
Scott, I'm known for pretty much saying what I mean. I really didn't know if the behavior was "rude" or not, that's why I asked if I was expecting too much. This is my first time on a writing site that allows and encourages comments, so I wanted some feedback from the "old timers" here on HP. Otay, Bu'wheat?
Okay, Scott, c'mon' - say "OTAY!"
I'm sorry I got distracted by another Hub I'm dukin it out with two know it alls, I know what you were asking habee, I just wouldn't worry about it. If they don't reply they're probably just busy or something. Just concentrate on getting comments to your Hubs that's really what matters as it is indicative to traffic and hits. i know we all like to be assured that our opinion has been heard but we can't always get that so we go on, besides even if they don't respond as long as its up everyone else will see your comment.
Oh how ironic and sweet this is. Seriously Scott, who do you think you are kidding?
You just jump all over me for NOTHING! I've never came across you before, until just a minute ago. And you were such a jackass, for NO GOOD REASON.
So what gives? Think you can just come in here and hide, and pretend like you are totally innocence on everything? You have NO place in a forum, based off this subject matter. As I will admit, since I am the better man- nor do I. But you've totally mixed oil and water in here.
Comical really, very comical.
Dave, you're right about James. KCC and Lyric do the same thing. I guess I just like the one-on-one interaction with the other writers!
I like the interaction as well. I guess its a thrill for me to see that people like what I am writing. I really didnt join hubpages to make money, but to improve on my writing and to communicate with other like minded individuals. There are a lot of VERY good authors here and I enjoy reading what they have to say.
If I could ban comments from fellow hubbers but not from external visitors I just might consider doing so.
Primarily because comments from hubbers make me feel bad when I often don't have the time or enthusiasm to respond to comments or read the hubs of others. I came to HP primarily to write and make a little money, and whilst I have met some great people and occasionally enjoy chilling in the forums, I didn't really come to network.
And also because external comments tend to be more subject related, due to the fact that the visitor has specifically searched for that info. Whilst from fellow hubbers they may be more along the lines of 'great hub'.
Cool, Scott. I understand.
Mr. V, you raise a good point, too. I love comments from other hubbers, but when I get comments from outsiders, that's really sweet!
Hi habee, I usually respond to comments except this week because I had travel stuff for work that I had to go through so I was late. I agree with you that it's just plain courtesy to comment back.
My contribution to this discussion, do whatever blows your hair back and makes you feel good. It's not like anybody will lose sleep because there was no reply to their comment. If it makes you feel good to reply, then do it. If you can't be bothered, then don't. It's as simple as that.
I try to respond if appropriate but I do miss a fair number due to time contraints. However, if I receive a comment, I definately make time to go look at the commentator's work and read at least one or two hubs leaving comments as I go and joining fan clubs if I like their work. Somehow I feel this is the best way to work between writers.
RD, you're so funny. You can always make me smile...except for those times when you make me cry. lol
I try to respond to a good number of comments, but sometimes (like this morning) I don't have time to think up the right words to comments that are worthy of careful thought - so I'll have to go back. I kind of have a "philosophy": If the comments "take issue" with something I wrote I'll address the issue. If the comment is genuinely and particularly kind I'll try to think up just the right words. If it's a quickie comment I may lump any quickie comments together and do a row of "name, thank you" kind of things. Sometimes, though, I don't want to look like I always need to have the last word; so I won't respond out of what I think is actually etiquette. (Habee, I kind of miss your old pictures, not that anyone asked. )
I love comments on my hubs and I almost always respond. If the commenter is a new face I will check out and read their hubs. Mostly you find like-minded people this way.
"Have you heard the joke that explains why Southern women don't participate in group sex? Too many thank-you notes to write."
Now thats funny.
Habee, You dont have writer's cramp do you?
Well, I've really got an easy life in HP.
Few hubs, no comments, no responses.
No problem.
Its a personal choice really
I generally respond to every comment. Unless I'm just not feeling it one day, then I might leave one unanswered. But, even then, eventually I usually find it again and answer it later. I do it because I like for the hubbers I comment on to answer my comments so I guess Its sort of a do unto others thing lol
Plus some comments are just too good to not get a response!
I don't always respond, but not because I don't want to. Sometimes I just don't have the time to do so. But I do read and appreciate every comment left on all my hubs.
I try to respond to each comment, but I know that may get to be too tedious as I have more hubs. HubPages is one venue for me, and I have a lot of other online tasks as well.
If the commenter said something that is really thought provoking or asks a question, or even if it just gives me a chance to expand further on what the hub was about, I will always be responding. Lately, I do tend to let them pile up a bit and respond to several at a time so as to be more efficient about it.
I prefer to spend more time commenting on other's hubs than to comment back on my own, though.
BTW, habee, I liked your joke!
So, Lisa - which pic did you like? The real me, my dogs, or the one of my grandson? This is my granddaughter. I've been experimenting! lol
I agree with what Zsuzsy Bee said. I enjoy "making friends" via reading and comments. I'm definitely a "people person"!
I respond to all comments. Whether this is related to my "Southerness", I would guess in part yes. I write more to those that make some kind of point. I at least acknowledge all readers. I realize I may not be able to respond to all comments when I have 200 hubs and other writing gigs going on, or doing some work as a therapist. I appreciate having comments, even those comments that many consider not to be 'value added'. Being new, I'm glad to have some idea of who is reading my work.
i always try to respond. sometimes i reply to one then i go back to my comments list and it's empty and then i forget who commented, so sometimes comments go unanswered
i would hate for anyone to think i would be mean and deliberately ignore them ;_;
I find that it is important for the feedback whether giving or receiving. How else could one improve one's work? I also believe in acknowledging the receipt of a comment. After all, don't we write thank you notes for gifts we receive? (or am I outdated now???)
Oh, goodie! I see this practice is not just restricted to the Old South and to old Southerners like me! lol
Habee, as sweet as your dogs and grandkids are, I prefer the real pic of you.
Hang on, I'll find my pic....and for a moment or two, you guys and gals will see the real KCC.
How do you post a comment without the text of the comment you are posting about? since you are doing that I figure I wil ask you.
Just hit reply and write. Guess, I should clarify.....the button is the lower right corner of the page.
OMG I didn't recognize you! KCC. I was wondering who the newbee was, and then I put on my glasses. Shouldn't drink wine and hub either.
Habee made me do it.
I'll revert back to my cute little monkey self shortly.
Thanks I found it DAH-AAA...You are awesome.
Because I often ask a question related to the hub, Marisa. I return later to find the answer.
KCC, leave up your real pic! You're lovely - way more attractive than a monkey. lol!
Mistyyyyyyyyyyyy!....
That's what I do, by the way..click on 'comments you made'
lol WHAT UP!!!!!!!!!!! that's why I suggested it, I guess some people don't know.
No, you're not expecting too much, it's just common courtesy.
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Pacific NW girl
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