Stolen articles - Apceo etc.

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  1. annart profile image82
    annartposted 2 years ago

    Why can't hubpages do something about our articles stolen by the likes of Apceo? It seems they take just about everything but HP does nothing!  HP will lose out too because authors will start removing their pieces.

    1. Misbah786 profile image85
      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you so much for starting this discussion, Ann. I'm hoping HP is reading this thread. I'm sick of HP's current situation; what's happening here because of Acpeo is a huge loss for HP and its authors. I'm hoping HP realizes this. The sooner they understand this, the better.

      Blessings to you! smile

    2. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Ann, Matt insists it's not HP's responsibility, but the writers' because we own the copyrights. However, I feel they should and can do something to disallow  the penetration of bots and human plagiarists alike, since the entire platform is being infiltrated. How about a firewall?

      1. Misbah786 profile image85
        Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Matt stated in one forum post that they are working to resolve the issue.
        See this: https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4231519

        1. bravewarrior profile image86
          bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Misbah, my interpretation of Matt's comment in that forum is that they are working on a fix to not mark OUR work as duplicate. He once again suggested you file a DMCA complaint. He did not say they are working on a fix for this global swipe that's happening on the HP format.

          1. Misbah786 profile image85
            Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, you are right, Matt suggested to file a DMCA complaint smile

    3. Matt Wells profile imageSTAFF
      Matt Wellsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      HubPages cannot file a DMCA complaint on your behalf. It's your content so you will have to file the complaint. If the site that copied your content does not respond you can file a DMCA complaint with search engines. If the content is indexed it will be removed. Please visit the FAQ for instructions.

      We can't prevent people from copying your content. The best option for everyone is to file DMCA complaints. If you need help, contact team@hubpages.com.

      1. Misbah786 profile image85
        Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you so much for your response, Matt. Many of us, including myself, have already filed DMCAs for numerous articles. We appreciate you always taking the time to respond to our queries, but believe me that the current situation is serious; every new article is being copied there, and this is not the story of a few HP writers, but the pain of all HP writers. smile

        Best Wishes!

        1. hclpd profile image93
          hclpdposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Yep. I concur. Almost all my articles, at least the popular ones, have been copied tonnes of times. I have given up on filing DMCAs now.

      2. OldRoses profile image94
        OldRosesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        But why can't you lock down the site so that people can't come along and just copy and paste our work?  Other websites do it to prevent people's content from being stolen.  Why can't HubPages do the same thing?

        1. AliciaC profile image91
          AliciaCposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          My understanding is that the text isn't being copied and pasted. The data is being scraped by software, which is a different technique.

          1. OldRoses profile image94
            OldRosesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Most of my stolen articles are copied and pasted by individuals into their personal blogs.

      3. janshares profile image92
        jansharesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        "The best option for everyone is to file DMCA complaints."

        With all due respect Matt, that's not the best option for everyone. Hubbers are tired and overwhelmed with filing complaints, most of which go nowhere. As some writers have stated in another forum, the option is to stop writing and publishing on HP. The larger consequence is losing writers and decreasing content on the site. I appreciate the work HP staff does but filing DMCAs is no longer practical, nor does it appear to address the larger issue: a savvy thief who is disrupting our HP community which threatens the life of the site.
        [Hope I'm not being too dramatic. hmm]

        1. Misbah786 profile image85
          Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          You're not being dramatic, Janis. Everything you've said is correct, and many of us feel the same way. smile

          Blessings and Love to you!!

        2. Jodah profile image89
          Jodahposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Not too dramatic in the slightest. They have been using the “author has to fill out the DMCA because they own the content” for the last 10 years. Things have changed dramatically, and this is not just the occasional article being copied. It is affecting the site as a whole, and every single item that some of us post. Just another reason for people to stop writing here.

          1. bravewarrior profile image86
            bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Yep. Why can't a firewall be implemented? It's no longer individuals who are stealing content. We now have bots that are sweeping entire sites. I don't dare post anything new because that's what they seem to be after. HP as a whole is being infiltrated. Therefore, I think it's HP's responsibility to ensure bots can't get through.

            1. Misbah786 profile image85
              Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

              There's a hubber who have some problems with this suggestion, Shauna. I am sending you the details in the DM. smile
              Love and Blessings!!

    4. Matt Wells profile imageSTAFF
      Matt Wellsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks to everyone filing DMCA complaints apceo has been taken down. Remember, you own the content so you have to file DMCA complaints. HubPages cannot file DMCA complaints on your behalf. I understand it's frustrating having your content copied, but if you want to take action, filing DMCA complaints is the best route.

  2. Jodah profile image89
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    Here we go again.

    1. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      And around and around we go (chasing our tails)!

      1. Misbah786 profile image85
        Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        It's like the more we write, the more DMCAs we have to file.

  3. annart profile image82
    annartposted 2 years ago

    Thank you

  4. annart profile image82
    annartposted 2 years ago

    Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. It sounds pretty impossible to do anything about it but I will try the DMCA route.
    Frustrating!

  5. annart profile image82
    annartposted 2 years ago

    I am now withdrawing from HP precisely because of their inaction and lack of regard for their authors.  I'm not prepared for my work to be stolen, whether by people or 'bots' (though I'm not naive enough to think I'll never be plagiarised).  All my fiction (stories and poetry) is coming off and being used elsewhere, and I will not be writing any more articles for HP at all.  My non-fiction articles will stay, merely because they can still give me a little income.

    I am freelancing, targeting local magazines and the like, which also pay more, throwing all my energy into something I enjoy which will be far less likely to be stolen.

    I've enjoyed HP, I appreciate having had the opportunity to hone my skills, and to make fantastic friends.  Now I'm moving on, keeping in touch with my many HP friends, and enjoying life!

    Good luck to all of you!

    1. Misbah786 profile image85
      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      This is sad, Ann. But I can understand the pain.  Best of luck and Blessings to you.

      Sending you lots of Love! smile

    2. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like a plan, Ann. We'll keep in touch, for sure.

  6. Rupert Taylor profile image95
    Rupert Taylorposted 2 years ago

    You'll be missed Ann. I understand your frustration and wish there was something that could be done to stop these thieving jerks. Best of luck with freelancing.

  7. Jodah profile image89
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    I am sorry you are leaving HP Ann, but it is totally understandable. I hope you continue to write at The Creative Exiles so I can still enjoy your writing, and we can interact there. Good luck in your freelancing.

  8. Carb Diva profile image96
    Carb Divaposted 2 years ago

    I have over a dozen articles written and ready to publish. But I don't dare release them--they'll be snatched up in an instant. What a waste of time.

    1. Author Albert profile image65
      Author Albertposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I wish you well and tell you never lose hope @ Carb

  9. ravirajan01 profile image95
    ravirajan01posted 2 years ago

    Good luck with your freelancing. It is sad to see to go as I really enjoy your writing. Hope we can interact on some other site.

  10. annart profile image82
    annartposted 2 years ago

    I appreciate all of you wishing me well.  Thank you.
    I'll definitely be continuing on TCE, John.
    Linda, why not write on TCE too?  You won't have wasted your efforts, though I appreciate that you won't get the remuneration you deserve.  At least people can read  and comment though.
    It's all a bit sad and frustrating but I'm moving on and putting it all down to experience.  Will talk to many of you again soon.
    Take care and keep safe and well, all of you!
    Ann

  11. Peggy W profile image96
    Peggy Wposted 2 years ago

    So sad to see you leave HubPages, Ann.  If you have other outlets where your work is less likely to be stolen, that is excellent.  Let's stay in touch.

  12. alexadry profile image96
    alexadryposted 2 years ago

    Carb Diva, I hear you! I just published an article and it was copied. Not super quick, there was a delay of two days. However, this gives me he opportunity to file a complaint with the hosting company, and the more complaints, the better. I am now thinking of publishing something really short and insignificant so that once it's copied, I can update it then later with content.

    1. Jodah profile image89
      Jodahposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Alexadry, that sounds like a good plan Just publish a very basic article for the thieves and then add significant content to the original after a few days.

  13. eugbug profile image95
    eugbugposted 2 years ago

    There are software anti-scraping solutions for websites which deny scraping software the ability to quickly and easily download a whole site. I presume the reason this couldn't be implemented is lack of money and resources to do it. But of course there are techniques to bypass anti-scraping software, so would it be worth the effort?

    1. Jodah profile image89
      Jodahposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I thought there had to be such anti-scraping software, Eugene. I guess that is for HubPages/Maven/Arena to decide if they have the funds and resources to implement it though. We can only hope. It would prevent a lot of writers from leaving.

  14. profile image0
    Poetic Phantomposted 2 years ago

    Was thinking of posting some new poems
    But Now

    I think I must wait for some more time

  15. annart profile image82
    annartposted 2 years ago

    Will definitely stay in touch with my special friends here; you are too precious for me not to!

  16. Jodah profile image89
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    Congratulations! We have succeeded. Apceo.com is no more.

  17. FatFreddysCat profile image94
    FatFreddysCatposted 2 years ago

    Ding dong, acpeo is DEAD.

    Goodbye, and good riddance to bad luck!

    https://hubstatic.com/15930403.jpg

    1. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Great job guys and gals!

    2. SerenityHalo profile image95
      SerenityHaloposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent news!

  18. Rupert Taylor profile image95
    Rupert Taylorposted 2 years ago

    Well done to all who worked to close down the scoundrel.

    1. FatFreddysCat profile image94
      FatFreddysCatposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Let us sing the Victory Song and drink beer from his empty skull!

  19. vidsagster profile image88
    vidsagsterposted 2 years ago

    That's good news, John. Hope we will not have to face such problems anymore.

  20. Peggy W profile image96
    Peggy Wposted 2 years ago

    That is great news!  I just received a notice from Hostinger that they needed more information about the infringing content although I submitted a regular DMCA notice with everything already listed.  I guess I won't bother now responding back to them.  This is what I saw when I went to the acpeo website:

    "Secure Connection Failed

    An error occurred during a connection to acpeo.com. Peer reports it experienced an internal error.

    Error code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT

        The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
        Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

  21. Kenna McHugh profile image91
    Kenna McHughposted 2 years ago

    Arrrrgh, their gone!

    "Nobody will believe it’s possible until we show them.” - Captain Flint, Black Sails

  22. Thelma Alberts profile image90
    Thelma Albertsposted 2 years ago

    I am glad that site is gone. I feel demotivated writing a new article as  I have some of them stolen. I am tired of complaining.

  23. FatFreddysCat profile image94
    FatFreddysCatposted 2 years ago

    Heads up, y'all!

    Just for gits and shiggles, I looked up our old pal acpeo dot com this afternoon and it looks like his "Gourmet Pro" site is back up again.

    The front page appears to be mostly food and home decor articles. I'm not sure where he may be borrowing them from, but the same half dozen or so pieces appear under all the various sub headings ("Salad," "Chicken," "Healthcare," etc.)

    Naturally, I checked around to see if he'd pinched any of my most recent articles and this time, at least, I seem to have been spared (whew).

    So be warned, we may be in for another round with this douche.

  24. Stephen Tomkinson profile image90
    Stephen Tomkinsonposted 2 years ago

    Only one advertiser - a Roumanian webpage designer that lists Hubspot amongst its fans. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to contact them. Should more advertisers appear, it might be worth letting them know that they are supporting such a site.

  25. Misbah786 profile image85
    Misbah786posted 2 years ago

    Oh, the thief is back in town....it appears that no one can limit his/her enthusiasm for robbery.

  26. Jodah profile image89
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    He has been back awhile but as far as I can see has not stolen anything from HubPages yet.

  27. Gianella Labrador profile image85
    Gianella Labradorposted 2 years ago

    But ....the articles have source link again, I wonder if the source website is aware that their articles are being used and posted in acpeo and if they know about it or they have permitted them to do so. I know its not our concern anymore but i was just wondering.

  28. Jodah profile image89
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    Yes, I wonder that too. Maybe he just moved his scraping elsewhere.

  29. alexadry profile image96
    alexadryposted 2 years ago

    Looks like he has targeted other websites now and getting articles from different places perhaps in hopes of staying under the radar.

  30. Carb Diva profile image96
    Carb Divaposted 2 years ago

    I notified one of the websites from which he has most recently stolen material. I hope they look into it.

    1. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Good for you, Linda! Too bad you can't include a link to this thread.

 
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