Bring back A Texan!

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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
Unless I read it wrong, A Texan just got banned from the forums.
What the heck????
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why ?
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When did this happen??....he just posted to my Photo Fun thread a like 2 hours ago
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  china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I disagree with most of what he says - like I completely disagree with your views - but like to see you here and all the others who make this place such an entertaining turkey shoot !! Maybe someone can round up all the recent bannings etc and explain why ? The only one I can really understand was clearly attacking Hubpages and all of us morons, generally.
  
  It has the appearance of a witch hunt when I look at the disappearing names that I recognise, yet the trolls and patent nuisances seem to live on. I am new here so maybe there are rules that I don't know?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't understand the rules anymore !
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  blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I just saw him half hour ago. Geez what happened.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Whaaaat? wow ! what happened?
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Apparently a very long story if you read all 126 posts.
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
That's what I'd like to know!

From what I've seen, he's one of the best posters around here.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldn't say he's the best LOL!
  But I like to fight with him. Such a proud Texan !
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm with you, I like to fight with him too.
  
  This sort of thread is pointless, it will never work, but even so, bring him back.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No I don't even want to think this could be true, where is it? This Ban?
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
It's posted on his profile page.
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Ohmaposted 14 years ago
what happened?
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
It seems I have been banned from the forums again, I haven't attacked anybody personally unless pointing out hypocrisy is now considered an attack The last time I was banned was for 30 days and they said the next one would be 90 so I probably wont be back.

I have had some fun here at hubpages but it was never supposed to provide an income, so to all of my fans/followers I hope you get what you want from this site and good luck!

It looks it's like Goodbye !!!
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Shame, he was a decent kind of nemesis, not like Tattoguy, who de-fanned me today because I didn't stand up for him on his 'is this the end of Badco' thread.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, tantrum are you really banned?, that's just wrong if you are too?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  I'm not !
  I'm only copying atexan's profile
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Whew, you had me scared.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  A lot of people would be happy !
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  Mamelodyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldn't.. I love having you here..
  
  who would I fight with and make up afterwards?
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  Mamelodyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!
  
  what the hell? I take a 20 hour break and find one of my best posters and friend has been kicked out?? fcking unfair..
  
  This calls for an official protest...
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  Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i concur. in the words from spike lee's movie,"do the right thing", "FIGHT THE POWER! FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE!!"
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B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years ago
I received a phone call and was told many great hubbers were banned and some not so great hubbers were left to the forums while I was out for a week or so attending to health and private matters...

I think its funny, if you look it is not the hubbers who live on the forums that get banned, even though they act the same way and write the same content as some of the "popular" hubbers who live on this site and have nothing to do but spend day and night here ...

hmmm..

Yes, let ATEXAN and some of the others come back, somehow I feel a certain person who is here constantly, except when they sleep , may have alot to do with this..and ironically many of their hubs and things they say are alot like what the people who got banned have posted and written about...

*( sorry, I will not name a name or names )
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  BC I am glad you are here to defend A Texan. I know you were not feeling well.
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Faybe Bayposted 14 years ago
Okay, it is true, he left me fan mail saying he was banned. I shot off an e-mail.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Lert us know why he got banned. HP should send him an e-mail telling him why.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, he doesn't know yet. He came in to post and it said he was banned. No E-mail to him from HP yet.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's weird. When I was banned ,they sent me an e-mail with the link to the thread I was banned for
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
He had just got done defending free speech on a certain thread.
How would that be breaking any rules? It wouldn't.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmmm, he got banned for that? I see much worse from people who are never banned.
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Denno66posted 14 years ago
Sounds like another great Hub in the making.....
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  china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  careful - you are already close to lamb chops with your woolly comments
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  Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm here so infrequently nowadays, I would welcome a ban or some Lamb chops......
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Ohmaposted 14 years ago
This is so weird. I can't believe they haven't even told him what he supposedly did wrong. That seems very unfair.
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awareposted 14 years ago
growing up i banded many a young calf. a lil rubber band around their nuts , tender um up you know . all the better for the eating. so way i figure it i got a few bands coming my way.....
ohhh banned .... my bad . wrong ban
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thisisoliposted 14 years ago
Another ban?

I have never seen A Texan write anything particularly banworthy, he is usually a mediator, and a very down to earth guy.
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Faybe Bayposted 14 years ago
Messages from the other side. In a psychic state called hotmail, I received these messages.

To Tantram: "Muhaw"

To Mrvoodoo: "Chill Dude."

To B.C:Luv Ya Lots

To all the rest: You're great!

The glass went dark, he's sleeping now.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wonder what 'muhaw' in Texan means
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  dunno, but he's laughing, said he'll get some writing done for a change.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well, if that was an insult, I won't be able to report him !
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am receiving another message from the other side...
  
  It means... big...wet...sloppy kisses... Now goodnight everybody.
  
  That is all the glass went dark.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  You made that up !
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No Honest the psychic window known as hotmail never lies.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So those are Texan kisses ?!
  
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, well I guess it wouldn't be a selling point would it...
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Agree !
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  habeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Tantrum, "muhaw" is a Southern kiss!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi habee !
  And is it good ?
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah I told her. I had a psychic connection.
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  china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  did you say psychic erection - I thought you was only good friends
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  lynnechandlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It took me a moment but I gots it!
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  haha, love it, your choice of words are not lost on me, come back soon dude.
  
  You know I love you really.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago
I hope he comes back. He's like the punching bag I never had as a kid.
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  Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ban Ron before you ban Texan
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sweet innocent me?
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  Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  opps.. sorry Ron.. I didn't think you would read that
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why? Youse tink I cant reed?
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  Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I just assumed you couldn't... being a Colt's fan and all
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
I'm really steamed!

Especially if the banning had anything to do with the thread I was also in. Because he defended my free speech, and also EVERYONE's free speech.

And even if it was a different thread, I haven't seen anything worse from him than from other posters...

I think I smell a rat in the land of "tolerance" around here....
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's okay Brenda, he knows you are here and he is happy where he is.
  
  The glass went dark. For more messages from the other side, look up the page.
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Phoenix 69posted 14 years ago
From what I hear the new policy is that it's "less work" to ban hubbers than to edit their material.
I also have seen that now they will ban accounts that even speak of others who have been banned.
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TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago
Hmm...that's a shame. I haven't seen him say anything that I thought was particularly ban-worthy recently. Of course, it's obviously not up to me
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Phoenix 69posted 14 years ago
I am surprised this thread has not been closed already. When wsp2469 was banned they closed the thread protesting the ban after 3 posts. Then again, it's the weekend so maybe everyone is off work now.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why this kind of thread should get closed ? I don't see any name calling or insults anywhere
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What could happen is like what happened with the wsp2469 protest forum. They could claim it's no one's business but Hp's and the person who is banned.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Phoenix, he is just banned from forums. Wsp was banned elsewhere. If I am not mistaken.
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  sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol,, whats the 'P' in WSP?
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I thought it was Wisp, like wisp of smoke, so I never asked.
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think wsp2469 was a code was used by his boss when the account was opened? Cooke2cook? He used to mention her a lot in one of his hub series and she did a hub for him.
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wsp2469 was banned--totally--yes!
  In fact, two or three other people who like his stuff tried to open up tribute accounts and those accounts were banned as well.
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Friendlywordposted 14 years ago
I've been banned a few times. For very good reasons. Even went off on the Hubpages staff. But, Tex is a smart man. He makes everbody else lose it.

I hope he gets back to us with the reason for the ban. I think Badco is right. This is getting out of hand. I feel there should be rules, of course. But you know what, I'm not sure the Hubpages staff really reads the thread, just the complaint by the person reporting the person they want banned.
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
And that would be.....totally unfair, if that's how it goes.
Surely HubPages isn't that unfair....
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Brenda did you get my message, up the page?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. Thanks.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  k. I have an early morning. I can't believe its 10:30 already. Night all, I will keep you posted of any further psychic flashes.
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hope springs eternal, doesn't it?
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habeeposted 14 years ago
Yep, Tantrum - Southern kisses are the best! It's the grits...
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now I'm getting jealous, I get the psychic connection and Tantrum gets the great kiss?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Lets switch ! You can get the 'muhaw', and I, with the Psych connection ,I can get all the kisses I want!
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No that's okay, I guess he just likes you best.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It must be some Texan Love- Hate thing !
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, BC has a hundred and one fans, I don't know how to do that congrats thing. But seeing as she is back tonight from hospital... Do you know how?
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, figured it out.
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Rafiniposted 14 years ago
Sometime in the past 2 weeks I saw a post that said something like:

any complaints in regards to forum posts will result in immediate banning.

So...I am assuming someone complained about A Texan therefore he was banned. What a shame.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's okay Rafini, he let us know of the ban. I have been in contact, if you look up the page. He's fine.
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  Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm glad, but I'll miss seeing him.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We all will, but he can read just not post. he will be writing hubs, and I am sure he will look back on this forum and see how much of an outpouring of affection there is here.
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
I will refrain....for now...until/unless I know more, from giving whoever's responsible the what-for. Because this sort of thing, denying someone their freedom of speech, goes on in many forums that claim to hold to "diversity" and "tolerance", while in fact they're only tolerant at their own whim.

Is Hubpages like that? I dunno.......that's what I'm asking by posting this thread. I think it's a valid, fair question!

But I'll say this----
it's tempting to use that juicy word that A Texan "has a copyright on"! haha

I will refrain....I will....
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Goodnight Brenda, I think he may have spent a lot of money to obtain that copyright.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
I didn't hear you complain when BC was banned, when Lita was banned, when Ryan was banned
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  -I never knew BC was banned. I wrote and asked why she was not in forums.If she was sick and got no response. I do not know Lita and I do not know Ryan
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
If you mean me, I didn't know those posters. I don't really know A. Texan; but I know him somewhat by his posts in the threads we've happened to be in at the same times.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Brenda, I assumed you and Tex were soul mates.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know what the definition of "soul mates" is; people seem to throw that phrase around way too freely these days.
  
  I admire A Texan for his boldness and common sense, and for some of his views.
  
  Especially those first two qualities combined seems to be becoming rather rare in America.
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cindyvineposted 14 years ago
Goodness, I look on the forums once in a while and everytime someone else has been banned. Maybe, they should start a Bannees Anonymous Group, where they can be indoctrinated on what should be said on forums. Lol
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  blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Cindy glad to get your imput. Missed you here
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wyanjenposted 14 years ago

Here we go again
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Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago
this really a bunch of b.s. A Texan has always been one of the coolest guys on here. so why would they do this to him. i tell you hp has gone mad i tells ya.
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B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years ago
I agree Steve, yes...I agree!!!
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  Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yeah. first it was wsp and now its A Texan, who's next? it's getting to the point where just the littlest thing can get you banned on this site now these days.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who is wsp?
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  Phoenix Fanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  wsp is wsp2469. They are banning entire accounts that mention wsp2469. I don't know why. See how long MY account stays open since I am NOT hiding the fact that I am a friend and fan of wsp2469.
  Mind you, one of the accounts also mentioned A Texan, too, so maybe you can get your account banned for mentioning ANYone who is banned. I don't know. my other friends who opened accounts have not received any explanation as to why their accounts were closed.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ?????????
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  Phoenix Fanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's all true, tantrum . . . and we all know about yor belly-button!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well that's a problem !That's why I'm not showing it anymore !
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  Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  there was a user by the name of wsp2469 that used to be on hubpages, but apparently some found his work too controversial (which is a lie), so he started to submit his work to the hubpages staff for approval before he published each hub. then the next thing you know, after he submitted an idea to hubpages staff to ask for their permission, they just ban him. no explanation at all. silly, huh?
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  Maddie Ruudposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please don't spread false information. The user in question was not banned without explanation, or without many previous chances.
  
  On the original topic, A Texan was given a temporary ban from the forums after a personal attack, and chose to have his account closed rather than wait it out.
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Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years ago
My fellow Texan, A Texan was cool although we probably did not agree on anything.
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thisisoliposted 14 years ago
I think the diffence is that wsp was warned repeatedly on the content of his hubs.

With Texan no body seems to be particularly sure as to why he was banned, since he is seems to be a pretty average forum poster. It worries me a little that writers are being banned for writing in a writing forum.

I mean I write quite forcibly on some of my own points of view in debates of others, does this mean I am at risk of being banned simply because they disagree with me and feel it worth reporting?
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ditto. *gulp*
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  From what I hear different people get away with different things if they fly under the radar or others are not reporting them. There are plenty of people who get away with the same kind of thing wsp used to get flagged for but they are still here. From what I have read wsp was banned because it was "more trouble" to tell him exactly what to edit then it was to ban him.
  
  Also subject matter might also have something to do with it. You might not get flagged or banned for speaking up on one subject but yet you might for another. You could lose an entire account just for doing hubs on one particular person but only get banned for three days for talking sh8t in a forum.
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Doug Hughesposted 14 years ago
This seems to be the last post - Only Hub admin knows if this is what did it.

"At least he doesn't get a funny feeling going up his leg when the Obamagod speaks, what is that about? Are all male Democrats so easily aroused by other men?"

No, I didn't report him. No, I won't miss him. He lacked the integrity that is essentil to meaningful debate. If you want ot see what conservative debate looks like, check out William F. Buckley Jr. Tex thought he was mini-Rush, and that won't cut it.

I don't think he got banned for his conservative position - I think it was his abusive over-the-top insults.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am glad you didn't report him, but this is what the original post was about. He was chatting as usual, being his usual self, and then he went to reply to a post and could not.
  
  I understand that there are rules. However there are at times new people in the forums who are easily baited. They get insulted and do not know it was all a joke.
  
  I am sorry if you have felt insulted, but so have I and no amount of placating would make the poster stop. I left on my own for a couple of days. But I did not report anybody. People do not understand, sometimes you just have to stop. I never saw him being abusive or over the top.
  
  What I saw was a man who would stand up if someone was attacking another forum poster. It's free speech in here kids, it is what it is.
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  Barnabas Johnsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I just wish the discourse could be more ... thoughtful. Well-mannered.
  
  Aren't "good manners" both conservative and liberal values? Why all this barking and snarling?
  
  Too many are too certain about too much. I am intrigued by the Coffee Party -- a movement apparently focused on well-mannered discourse that honors the complexity of the problems and opportunities facing America and the world.
  
  Zealots of the Right and Left generate heat, not light. Let's illuminate the Conversation of Democracy by trying to "meet in the middle"... and let's stop barking and snarling at each other.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good thoughts.
  
  Welcome to Hubpages.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  what a very thoughtful, sensible post. I totally agree with you.
  the extremes never accomplish what the majority desire. I also find the coffee party something worth listening to. refreshing to read your post. welcome to HP.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well said. I agree. For the most part HubPages' discussion forums are reasonably well mannered but lacking in fact-based reasoning. Tex, was sometimes irritating but for the most part good natured and not given to insulting other hubbers. I enjoyed bantering with him for the most part. I hope he'll be back with us soon. I'm not sure what he said that got him banned so I'm not inclined to second guess our moderators.
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Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago
Mr. Hughes:

"No, I didn't report him. No, I won't miss him. He lacked the integrity that is essentil to meaningful debate."

Lacks Integrity?

Just because the man cannot respond to you does not mean you can personnally attack him.
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
I miss loads of stuff on the forums because I live in the opposite side of the world, and am generally sleeping when you lot are online, but I have never seen A Texan saying anything ban-worthy. But what bothers me is that by his own admisssion he'd been banned for 30 days previously, so that wasn't a first offence.
Is A Texan a sock puppet for another user?
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
A Texan has emailed me to say that no he is not a sock puppet but that he was almost deservedly banned for a commment he made before to another user who has long since disappeared from hubpages.
In this case however, I think it would be appropriate for hubpages staff to send an email to him (which if sent, he has apparently not received) to explain the ban this time. He is at a loss, and quite frankly, it seems that everyone else is too.
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Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago
*sigh* another one gone? Jeez this place is becoming a ghost town
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
Nah. It's apparently a pawn of the liberal agenda; whether willingly or not I dunno.
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You always preach conservative view of yours ?
  
  I mean A texan was more like centrist with his posts AFAIK, weird to see you make remarks by relating it with things that makes you uncomfortable.
  
  If tomorrow, Sarah palin declares herself as Bisexual, is thing going to be agenda of liberals or sarah palin's true confession ? What do you think ?
  
  Let's get real while defending other members instead of adding politics to every thing that moves.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't claim to hold to every opinion that A Texan holds to.
  Nor am I saying he holds to all my opinions! It's pretty clear that he doesn't!
  
  But I will say that he had the guts and niceness to stand up for me when I was being falsely accused and attacked by a group of several other posters here.
  
  I dunno if that's directly what got him banned or not. But if it is, then he was totally unfairly banned.
  
  And even if it was some other activity in the forums that got him banned, I couldn't find any posts of his that were ban-worthy.
  
  I have seen hundreds of other posters here who've said things as bad, and even much worse, in many cases, as anything A Texan said.
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's not clear yet for which comment he got banned. Is it comment in your defense or some other comments he made ? (Maybe some old post got reported,who knows)I think a texan needs to update us with that if he got any email from forum mods for the ban.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Honestly, it really doesn't matter!
  
  Because if it's considered fair that HE got banned, considering all the bad posts around here from other people, from crappy to intentional personal harrasment, then a LOT of posters should be banned.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree, or else no one should be.
  What happened to one hubber, someone didn't like in forum, so said hubber chose to walk away, not fight. Next time that hubber put up a hub, the forum fighter went and posted a nasty comment. Fighting in the forum is one thing, but then following a person back to their comments section? That should have been looked into and wasn't.
  
  That particular incident involved neither you or the Texan, but I think that should be where a line is drawn. Anyone can just stop responding in a forum.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And anyone can simply delete any post from their Hub for any reason or no reason at all.
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well it does matter,I don't doubt moderators decision here and if you found anyone harassing then do report. I doubt moderation will be in anyway unfair because some top earning members like ryan are out of forums. So there are rules here on forums and it's just that as if we're looking at them in biased way or as rules of commercial forums, this changes our perspective.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  sorry skyfire. I know there are rules. we just haven't been able to find why this happened. I would be upset if you got ousted, or earnestshub, anybody. Even anyone who didn't like me. I never had any conversation with A Texan in forums, but saw his posts in passing.
  
  We are venting, I guess. I had just fanned him yesterday and a few hours later he was banned from forums!
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are so correct. Why is it that the enforcement of these catch-all, all too general to be of any use rules is so random? Why is it that people like texan and wsp get hit time and again and others never get hit at all?
  It seems to me if people are popular enough to have fans then they obviously bring in traffic to the advertisers so why totally ban anyone that popular from Hp ever?
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Phoenix 69posted 14 years ago
Yeah if I recall Texan was all right. Maybe they just banned him from the forums for three days. Does anyone know?
Did they ban his whole account like wsp? Or are his hubs still there?
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No his hubs are still there it was forum posts.
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So at worse, he is forever banned from the forums. That's easily solved. All he has to do is create a puppet. It's when your entire account is banned that really sucks because then no one can read your old material.
  Again, maybe they've just put him in Hp "Timeout" for three days and allow him back in soon.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He said on his profile that last time was three months and they told him next time would be 90 days. I don't know. I just think that this is a bad deal. To be banned for hub content, I am sorry if there was no way to meet eye to eye.
  
  In forums, I have been befriended or ignored, only once do I know of being raked over coals, and that I took myself out. I chose to give up being made fun of. I didn't report them...
  
  What kind of baby would do that? I might take a couple of days off, but get someone banned? It seems so wrong.
  
  If harassing e-mails or spam, that would be something to do this, but A Texan is not that kind of guy.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  he already has created that. so unless the entire account is banned, he should be puttering in here soon. surprised he hasn't already.
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Ohmaposted 14 years ago
I think if there is any truth?? to the statement that HP is automatically banning people as soon as they get a report without investigating the incident that we are going to lose a lot of very good writers at an alarming rate.
My experience has been that writers write because they like to share their point of view with the world.
If it is now possible to be banned for having the conviction to stand up and defend your point of view well we should probably start saying our goodbyes in advance.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ohma, you will never have to worry, you are so sweet. It is people who do not know how to defend their beliefs, or walk away that are doing the reporting.
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  Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just the same I have annoyed people and been annoyed myself by others in the forums.
  It is just a big crap shoot as to whether or not someone may report any of us for anything.
  BTW whatever happened to facing your accuser? and a fair and impartial trial?
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
Faybe Bay, think of this forum as more of commercial place, then things can be justified easily. Do we rant, bash or make personal remarks in a place where we work ? No. Besides that no commercial site will allow much of freedom that could backfire it's value so there are rules. With commercial intention there comes set of rules and their own way of justifying it. Who knows we could get baited tomorrow on forums and will get banned ? I don't resist that possibility. If tomorrow I'm not on line of rules i deserve to stay outside forums, it's that simple in commercial place. In other non-commercial place we can keep venting with rights and all but we even digress there cause such things go nowhere.

Why i expect update is because if the ban is reasonable then there is no point in justifying it. If it's for short term then he'll be back anyway.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know... He was trying to post congratulations on my hundred followers and that is how he found out he was banned. It hurt mostly because he was getting ready to say something nice to me. We never interacted at all in forums.
  
  He fanned me so he could tell me congratulations.
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I feel sad for that as well.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well I took a nap and this is what happened. Thanks for understanding.
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Kathryn LJposted 14 years ago
Well I'm sad that he's out of commission. I've been out of the forums for a week due to a problem with my equipment and was looking forward to a bit of verbal jousting. A Texan is a hoot and I look forward to him returning asap.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
LOL the more things change the more they remain the same around here. I am still kickin, but just terribly busy doing some serious writing. Sorry I have not been around much, it's not because I don't love you all. It would seem I have been missing some good times. I'll be back, got to run an errand for momma. peace Charlie
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  myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ok...that should dispel some of the panic around here....! It's amazing how quickly it spreads..... ! Good to see you Ral..and best of luck with your writing!
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
Plus, I found him funny and fun and ..just plain likable.

BRING HIM BACK! DO YOU HEAR ME HUBPAGES??

haha
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Just because he always agrees with you.
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  blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I doubt he always agrees with me.
  
  And anyway, thanks to whatever coward whined and reported him (if that's what happened), guess we won't find out, will we? At least not in these forums anytime soon.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  at what point when anyone signed up, did it say...if you have a question that is none of your bussiness, seek the forums?
  
  really, email a texan
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Gee.
  You sure do assume too much.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think he reported himself.
  
  The hobbies listed on his profile include martyrdom.
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  Iðunnposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol
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  Iðunnposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Animals are such agreeable friends. They ask no questions, they make no criticisms. Why can't we be like that? I think I shall return to my hole.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ralwus, wonderful to hear you're doing some serious writing.
  you have way too much talent... put it in print.
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Iðunnposted 14 years ago
Hmm, as a relatively disinterested outsider, I was browsing the threads and read this one out of the stack.

To find out what happened, I had to go to A Texan's profile and back read his last forum posts, which explained why I didn't see them. Religion threads. I don't usually read those.

From my perspective it looks like he got banned for profanity because I didn't see him disrespecting others, just stating his case. But it's a long thread and I didn't read the whole thing. The last post had some general expletives and I would guess that was the post, because I think it was his last one.

I don't know most of the posters in that thread including him, or who has which alt ids or who usually takes what sides on that argument because I almost never read them. I think he posted in one of my Hubs once and I found his comment interesting and that's about my only personal input into the situation. So my opinion is limited in that way.

On topic, do I think he should have been banned? No. And in general on the bannings? Again, no. If the people on one side of an argument just shut up the other side by having them banned, who are you going to debate with in future? I love debate and this kind of thing actually killed my old board. they let one small group chase off all the really interesting and diverse people. I wasn't banned, but I left anyway as the situation was really negative and I don't like negative environments.

A Texan. You might want to write HP Staff and appeal.
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  Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for the heads up. I read it. His last two posts were (((CRICKETS))) and HOWDY. Above that there was a lot of talk about intolerance. The gist is , do not complain of intolerance if you insist on being intolerant.
  He realized he was using an improper term (bashing) he did not mean actual physical (bashing) {any more than Bible Beating means hit by a bible.} He explains and says it was a bad choice of words.
  
  So basically whoever banned him probably saw the word, misunderstood, and as some responses got hidden, never saw his take back of the word.
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  Iðunnposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, what I saw was some asterisked words in one of the last of his posts on the tolerance thread.
  
  Have to say, it was actually an interesting discussion, and I browsed a bit of it but not all. As I mentioned, it was really long, and the new pushing in format makes it difficult for me too, plus I was late to the discussion so I would have had to do a lot of reading to catch up.
  
  I don't think it was the word bashing, I thought it was for the asterisked stuff and have to say imo a little light profanity here and there does not offend me. Banning him for it seemed like overkill... unless there was something else I didn't see in that thread or a pattern I didn't know about. No way to tell.
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is HP 2010. Get used to overkill. I hear three new people were banned simply because they posted wsp-like hubs!
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Michael Willisposted 14 years ago
I guess ATexan must have deleted his account. I clicked on his avatar and found "profile no longer exist."
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  LegendaryHeroposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well that sucks; I enjoyed reading A Texan's posts and opinions.
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  manlypoetrymanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Tex? Where'd you go Tex...? And "Hey"..."How come I'm still here...since long ago...there was a Blue Duck that thoughtz we was one and the same person!" Come back to us, Tex!
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Phoenix 69posted 14 years ago
Wow so A texan is gone and wsp2469 too. WHo is next?
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Phoenix 69posted 14 years ago
I just tried clicking on his avatar, too. He "no longer exists". Wow.
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
So, the axe fell and no good explanation for it.

I know one thing----IF A Texan was banned because of his conservative views and/or takin' up for me when I was being ganged-up on in a certain thread (and it does seem like it)....I'm hugely disappointed and teed off.

Seems it's impossible to find a non-biased, neutral forum around anywhere. I can understand it if a site is specifically slanted a certain way and touts itself as such; then "it" has a right to stay slanted and proceed from there; but I thought HubPages was moderated in a "neutral-zone" fashion......
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Liberal / Conservative has nothing to do with it as evidenced by the departures of several lefties lately.
  
  The rules of conduct are very clear to anyone who bothers to read them; and in Texan's case were explained thoroughly along with multiple warnings for violations. I miss having him here, but his departure is of his own choosing.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  with your biased views on religion and homosexuality and politics, why on earth would you need a non-biased and neutral forum?
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  Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol...
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