Hi again Cagsil
I know you get irritated sometimes with fellow hubbers but you often sound so serene. I'm just picking up from your chat with Joy58. Is that your natural state for the majority of the time or is it something that you have to continually work on?
Hey Precious, I am all about self-control, with regards to much of my life. Thus, relationships are difficult, because of many factors. I do get upset from time to time, but I have one pet peeve that gets under my skin more than anything else and that would be choice ignorance. People who willingly choose to be ignorant instead of opening their mind to life itself.
@Kimberly,
What's up lady? What about you? I'm not sure exactly where you are headed with. You're a women and we are friends, sure. But, I do not have a girlfriend or wife, which I was talking to Joy about.
I have a wife and a girlfriend. Through an extraordinary confluence of luck, they happen to be the same person.
Forty three years married come next Sunday. Love that girl :-)
Hi Rafini
How are you doing? It's about 5.20 in the morning over here in the UK and most people where I am are still sensibly sleeping, but I like this time of day. Very peaceful.
I guess not many people want to simply chat anymore. The political and religious forums are the only ones really active lately.
Hmmm....? I wonder...
what do you wonder, Cagsil?
I"m getting tired of the heavy hitting forums....need something light.
@Precious - I was up by 5:30 this morning, felt great!! I'm gonna hafta do that more often!
I am wondering if my time in the forums is coming to an end and whether or not I should move on to other things.
The forums were heavy with people, but recently dropped off even more now than ever before.
So, with that said- I will take some time to evaluate it and the next stepping stone.
You take care of yourself Rafini. You try to be safe.
I agree Cagsil. The forums just aren't what they use to be
I'm good. Getting over a cold. Trying to write a hub. Bored! How are you?
I've been working on my hubs, making refining touches, so as to let them sit and do their job, make me money.
However, I've run into a snag on my celebrity hubs and it stopped my forward momentum, which forced me to redo them. I am half way done with complete changes for all of them, plus I have another 40 hubs unpublished(information and format done), which need fixes before I can publish them, like editing and adding pictures.
Other than that...not much happening here. I have been working most of the day on those and came here to see what's up. I was going to watch a movie, just hadn't decided which one of the 400 titles I have.
Cagsil - I know what you mean about spending less time in the forums. I've been using the forums to escape not only some reality but duties, responsibilities, and my writing. So, I'm also feeling the need to re-prioritize a few things.
btw - I talked with my instructor about my last group. He advised me to talk with them one more time and ask for their thoughts on where I could improve. I have it in my head to take charge & not let it turn into a discussion on what I did wrong. It's these circumstances that make me wish I were as strong as my writing says I am. Who knows? Maybe after this discussion I can be.
You take care too.
(WOW - 400 movie titiles? That's quite a bit! Then again, my son probably has that many video games.
just so he can change whatever game he's playing every 10 minutes or so....
)
hello i have been catching up, are you really fed up of the forums
I'm fed up with that lack of people being here. When I first started 9 months ago or so, it was always filled with people around the clock, but now there are less than 30-40 people who frequent the forums.
When I made my Valentine's Day Hub for the Women writers of HubPages, I was able to put 91 or more woman on the hub.
Now, you would be lucky if there are that many people actually taking part in the forums.
So, you tell me?
oh dear maybe everyone gets busy from time to time. Over here the weather is nice, and the evenings are light so people tend to go out rather than chat on the forums. i think maybe it will pick up a bit...
It must be very frustrating, when you seem to be the only one putting in the effort. Always nice to see your thread appearing, and friends dropping by.
Hey Joy, my point is that there are less and less people here.
At the time I joined, there were between 100-200 people in the forums, almost all the time. However, people unable to control themselves, get banned over and over, until they are permanently banned.
However, I know there are quite a few that have opened more than one account and now do not frequent the forums. There is a big difference, but the weather is actually not a factor.
I am sure at this specific time, the weather may become a factor, especially during the summer, as many other hubbers have stated that the slowing period is summer. I started in October, so I was not here for last summer and have to go based on what others have said about summer.
So, with that....I'm still debating it. As for this thread keeps popping up, is a good thing and I'm glad to see it do so.
i did not know lots of people had been permanantly banned...... oh dear. Why do folks get so worked up about things......
Yep may this thread keep on and may the crowds come back and join in........ good job keeping it going. English People blame the weather for everything,
You say "English" people blame the weather for everything is referenced to "Britain", I guess. English Americans point blames on others, not just the weather...most Americans have no problem placing blame on others, even for their own actions...
glad to hear it! I didn't hear the weather today....is the heat wave over?
It was about 85+ here today. We are expecting thunderstorms, but so far none. It is muggy outside, air is off, but closed up. Keep muggy air outside, outside.
You still didn't answer my question... What's up? Like, what's happening? Not talkative tonight????
Okay, maybe if I put this way- How was your day and did you do anything?
yeah, not real talkative tonite. I have one week left in my class - but I haven't spoken to my last group again, yet. (instructor suggested it in order for me to get the 50 points and to improve my social skills (?) lol) I lose my resolve as soon as I get there. I tell myself - I'm in charge! And then when I get there, I don't feel in charge anymore.... Oh well. Maybe next week? lol
Today my boys bought flowers, potting soil, and planters. I guess they discovered gardening isn't so bad after all. Did you know they sell mosquito spray for your lawn? lol I didn't know this!! So I bought some and as soon as I started spraying....poof!....the mosquitoes were gone!! lol Too cool!!
You do realize that you have to stop putting it off?
Your instructor is willing to give you 50 points for speaking to your last group? And, he wants you to improve your social skills?
Okay, I get it. But the bottom line is you think that you did nothing wrong, and in truth- you were not the best leader you could be, because of something either lacking or overlooked.
Go talk to your group, accept it as a learning process, because that is what it is really. Don't look at it as failure. It's about self-improvement, positive energy and being able to bestow that type of work ethic on others. It's something that has to be energizing to others to be around. I'm not getting that vibe from you.(*no offense)
Yes that is weird about the grass and that spray, but cool too. However, on the aspect of the boys enjoying gardening, that is awesome.
Give a man fish and feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. I know how to garden, and could if it became necessary for my life, but I am glad to hear that they are enjoying it.
yeah, I realize what you're saying. in fact the instructor said something similar - the self-appointed leader could only appoint herself the leader because the rest of us let her. So true. The other two group members are willing followers - me, on the other hand, I didn't feel up to arguing with someone who constantly told me 'we're doing what we're supposed to do' or 'no, we're not doing that', or 'that isn't what we (her) agreed to', or someone who out and out rejected certain suggestions of mine without any form of a group discussion.
my other issue - we've talked twice and both times I left in tears and the second time I was almost hostile toward all three of them. (the self-appointed leader said she felt they did what they were supposed to do but I hadn't so they deserved 50 points while I should only get 43 - I know I sounded nasty when I said 'oh sure, because I'm not social!!' then I said never mind, forget it! and left) Her mind was made up. I had made my case the week before but she refused to listen.
What the instructor suggested I do is what we were supposed to do - ask the last group 'where can I improve'? (what they want to do is accuse and blame rather than discuss where we could improve)
I get the self-improvement and positive energy, but bestowing that type of work ethic is an interesting concept. If I think of it that way, it might make it easier. It's similar to what I think when I feel in charge - like...it's possible I could teach somebody something. I mean, why not? Right? lol It's a deeply embedded issue with me....to allow others to win and get ahead so they don't feel that I'm a threat...mostly it hasn't worked anyway....and I'm tired of it. But, I'm also scared to change the habit....I want to, but I'm afraid.
What do you mean, 'it's something that has to be energizing to others to be around'? (no offense taken, lol, course, I don't know what you mean either. lol)
For a while, I worked, what to some would be a measly job. I was a busser/dishwasher for Cracker Barrel Restaurants. I took the job, because of having previous experience, before I did 10 years in retail.
It was a job, an income to pay bills. To me, it was a means to viability. So, I took the knowledge I had and put it to work, in this position.
Please realize: I am normally hyper, so I have continuous energy, but you have to have a positive attitude to go with it. When I started the job, I was put into the dishroom area to learn the job(which I was pretty sure what the entire job entailed, but training in their method of doing the job) is what was necessary.
So, after a week on the job, they asked me to go out to the dining room and buss some tables, during a dinner rush. So, I used the knowledge I had to show off what I could do. The average busser who was taking care of tables would take his sweet time. When I would buss a table, it was done within 15 seconds and I was on to the next, no waiting, just fluid movement and speed.
Next thing I know, I have waitress' sticking dollar tips in my pocket, because I turn over tables so quick, so they get more customers in their sections. I knew it had to be quick, it is dinner rush, the faster, but safely done is better. Well, shortly after that, I began getting waitress bussing their own tables during rush hours, just to help and other people(bussers) also increased their speed too.
I ended up showing a much quicker way to buss tables, and run the dishroom, within my first month on the job. It is all in your approach.
Nice example, btw. I understand.
I don't really understand in regard to my life, but it seems my experience in life isn't geared correctly. If it had been me I'm fairly sure someone (or more than 1 someone) would have laughed at me for taking the job so seriously. (it has happened to me....maybe more personally than in a workplace though...)
Some time ago I responded to a thread about negative people and I said I seriously feel my life is a magnet for negativity and I struggle so hard for it not to be. I don't ask for people to laugh because I want to succeed. I don't ask for people to laugh because I take my job seriously. I don't ask for anyone to feel threatened by me. I just want to succeed like anyone else wants to succeed.
It's sooo frustrating.
Yes, I realize it is frustrating and very difficult to overcome. However, that does not mean you cannot. The obstacle you put in your path can be taken down, by you accepting the fact that people can find any reason to laugh at anyone. Accept it, and continue on being you. Just try not to step into a position, you know or unsure about handling. Be able to view the position in it's entirety, from a physical, emotional and mental aspect.
The effects that it could have on you, and on others. This will help you focus more on what matters.
You're so helpful. I really appreciate it.
You're right. I have to do this. I know it. Otherwise I probably will never change. I have to do it Monday. (no class tomorrow) All I have to do is be in charge. I can do that. I've done it before - even with a disrespectful employee. Wow, I haven't thought of it that way before either...my last job was as a supervisor/manager. I couldn't stand the cashier but put my foot down when necessary. (extremely difficult to do unless I was the only manager at the store - she was the new BFF of the store manager) I didn't like her but had to work with her since I couldn't find a new job.
Okay, I get it now. I can do that. Just think of the group in terms similar to the cashier I couldn't stand! lol Lose my feelings of inadequacy and failure in order to manage and direct the discussion with the group about what I could do to improve. I can do that!
When you get the feeling of inadequacy comes to you, stop for a second and review your objective and plan to move forward. It is a little voice trying to let you know, there is a possibility that you might be missing something. If you do a quick review and assessment, then proceed forward, as you need, you should be fine.
I'll try to remember that. Thanks Cagsil, you've been a wonderful help.
I try. That is all I can do. The action has to be carried out by others in order for results to be seen.
Edit: It is my honor to help wherever I can.
Time for me to logoff and go to bed. I'm getting tired...see you tomorrow Cagsil. Have a good night.
Rafini I would like to put my two cents into this.
I am sure there is a lot of this tale that I am not aware of but from the conversation I have read tonight between you and Cags I gather that you seem to be struggling to keep your type A personality under wraps so that others do not view you as a threat.
It has been my experience that you can be a type A without being an aggressive type A. If you are as a I suspect truly a type A you will always struggle as long as you try to suppress those traits. There is nothing wrong with being who you are. You just have to learn how to put it to work to your benefit.
Hey Ohma - just a quick note before I go to bed.
I may be a Type A personality, I don't remember anymore. But I don't believe my issues stem from my personality or personality type. I don't see myself as aggressive unless I need to be but I can be quick, decisive, and confident in myself - just not at the right times. lol My life has been full of missed opportunities.
I have a couple 'life-story' type hubs that explain all as to why I'd be perceived as a threat.
How To Raise A Moronic Genius
If You Can't Say Something Right
Given The Choice
I'm going to look up Type A Personality before I go to bed....thanks Ohma for your thoughts.
Ohma - I'd say I'm a Type CA personality. The numbers and logic along with the calculated risk taking give it away. lol
What you say is true - Be who you are and learn how to put it to work for your benefit. I struggle....
My primary struggle with being a type A has always been my overly aggressive stance on right and wrong. Once I learned to keep that in perspective the rest was easy.
For you I would say that your concerns about appearing overbearing or pushy is the biggest issue but you have to remember that whenever there is a group of people working together toward a common goal there will be a leader. You can make up your mind to accept the responsibility or you can allow someone else to do it but you can not do both. Since I have control issues I accept the responsibility.
Hey Ohma, if you are talking about having that feeling that in order to make sure something is done right, that you must have control of it, so as to satisfy your need is not an issue.
It is a matter of respect for oneself and not an issue to be dealt with like some defect. You have enough respect for yourself, that you want to make sure that whenever you are in a position to be able to ensure quality of something done, that you lead the charge to make it realized.
This is not a problem by any stretch of the imagination. It is only you wanting to do the best job you can and have faith in your ability to control and handle the task at hand.
Please, do not see it as a problem. It's a strength!
Ohma -
I understand what you're saying. I think my C & A battled each other and C won out of necessity at the time. As a child I was taught to hold back in order for others to grow and in the process my growth was stunted. Now I want to catch up and pray that I'm not too late.
Now, if I begin looking at things this way (as in...'it's part of my personality') instead of 'is this a good thing or a bad thing' or 'will the outcome be positive or negative' it might make it much easier.
Thanks Ohma.
102 here today and the bleepin' AC at work quit working. Power outages all over the city last night Had my son and his 6 children here driving my husband nuts while I was away. hehe and he laughed about me having to go to the dinner with my dad. serves him right.
Well, that just shows, every action has a consequence.
He laughed at you for the dinner with family, but ended up stuck with the little ones.
Yes, it served him proper.
Ohma, I was glad to see your post. I've actually been looking for people complaining about the heat. The rest of the world (at least "the rest of the world" that's having the heat wave) seems to being about life as usual (in a lot of cases). OMG - I've done nothing but be hot!! I just have to keep complaining about it
Thank-you Cags.
For me it is an issue because it is not restricted to my professional life.
Hell I do not even drink because I fear being not in control.
But, my point is that you should be in control, except where joint decisions are needed or warranted. Otherwise, all control is power for moving past limitations.
When you learn to control time better, then you will have removed one more limitation, that remains to be an obstacle. But, I'll leave you to ponder that thought.
Are you saying that I spend to much unproductive time playing in the forums?
In my humble opinion controlling time is an illusion. I can control the way I spend the time I have but since I will never be able to cause it to move faster or slower I will never be able to control it.
Did I mention that I have control issues? A by product of that is a tendency to see everything very literally. My world tends to be very black or white, good or bad, on or off. Gray areas are very uncomfortable for me.
Gray areas are uncomfortable for me as well, especially on the head!
Yeah, I do think you mentioned your control issues, once or twice so far. I can also relate to the black and white, on and off, type of mentality.
However, I'm standing by what I said, because there was no gray area for you to see. It was rather black and white, and much to the point.
I am talking to myself, how do you think I am doing?
But, to be honest, I'm doing well. Just playing in and out of the forums.
I never get lonely talking to myself. I just hate it when we fight and I dont talk to myself for a couple of days.
hi guys. hows life? only here for a second myself, but I wanted to peek in for a bit.
NM? I feel like I missed something....sorry...I just read the be mean to your mom thread and it kinda got me all mixed up...
DM = DoorMatt, right? NM would = nomore. (a play on you giving yourself the silent treatment...course, my jokes always backfire.
)
ooooohhhh Its not you, its me. Im slow sometimes at jokes. good one!!
well...if I quit accidentaly opening religious threads.....things should be ok. *note to self..read category BEFORE opening thread...*
you would think I would LEARN by now... sheesh..
Well, in your defense, even you said you were slow. So..
HAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
how is that in my defense? thats like the time my hunbby said he could see why my back was sore..."hauling THAT thing around all day...I mean...your butt is so big and your so samll..I mean...." HAHAHA
I was only repeating something you've already said. And, as for your butt? You are kidding, I hope.
o man. Im so tired. No, the whole butt thing really happend but he didnt mean it like that at all, he just said something stupid sounding..ya know how you say something and it comes out wrong? and he got all worried and made it way worse, but I couldnt stop laughing cuz I knew what he meant but it sounded so awful...and I was just kidding with you....I know what you mean, i realy did say that..it justremidned me of the butt thing..
Ive got to get going to bed...have a great night!!
I'm going to carry the conversation in Last Post in here. I made it to chat in, so I might as well use it.
Sure, why not?
why didn't your sister take your niece camping - or doesn't she like camping?
I do not understand your question. What do you mean?
Who watched the NBA draft on ESPN with the heats celebration?
Ms
until I loose all my memory and get tricked in some skanky hotel in Vegas but too old to walk
having said that Chris and I will be together forever
can you believe he's had an account here for 10 months?
well thank goodness for me
uh oh
the ramble begins ................
polo
pps hurry up with your 100 hub
hey make it about my 100 avatars
didn't mean to jump in conversation
hi all around
And, yes, I'm constantly saying things I have to explain. It is one of the reasons my hubs are some what long, some of them.
See, I have to now explain. I am always saying something. Then once I have said it, most of the time, I have to explain what I said. It's odd.
Most people, when I talk, try or go out of their way to not listen, but pretend to listen. I'm used to it happening, so some times I will say something completely out of whack, just to bring their attention/focus on the conversation.
It's fun some times. Most will end up making themselves foolish, because of their own action, but won't realize it. Pretty ironic.
hehehehe trying to tell me to pay attention the next time you speak to me?
I find I kinda repeat myself - you know, say the same thing but in different words like I just did.
That's probably the only thing smart about me!
Just waiting up to see if BP and lorlie get into their caramel wrestling match. And you?
Yeah me too. I am still angry at a certain corporate entity I am unable to sleep. It is really confusing when a segment of the service industry provides such poor quality and does not really care.
i have arrived. the new self proclaimed KING of hubpages. hahahaha!
nice to meet you too. although i should warn you, like princess james.... by the way, i call lebron james a princess because he acts like a little baby girl. therefore, like princess james, i have the a huge ego and a posse to match. therefore, i expect to be treated as the new global icon of hubpages!
You gonna repeat this "princess james" thing on every thread or what?
damn straight i am. i want that to be his new official nickname. as i plan on cementing that nickname into everyone's freaking heads. lets hear it for the little girl named princess james. hooray!!! the ma...i mean girl who can't win a title on her own, but wants to be the first global icon and bigger than michael jordan. hooray!
Title are won on teams, not on one's own. He moved to Miami, so what. Miami is following the Laker's and Celtic's with tri-star power. How the results come out? We'll see.
It takes a team effort that believes in itself. Not a show off.
yeah, but it's the way he burned cleveland and everyone else that really p***es me off. he could've been a man about the whole thing and made his freaking decision like a normal player by telling a few reporters at a news conference. he didn't have to throw an hour long tv special called, "THE DECISION" where he would essentially drag it out and NOT call the cavs to let them know in advance about his decision. however, he was nice enough to let the heat know, but not the cavs. the team that royally kissed his a** and s***ed on his c*** for years. Only to have an hour long tv special, where he might as well have said, "F*** YOU CLEVELAND!" All I can say is, I hope he gets injured prone for the rest of his career. He doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same talks as Michael Jordan. Jordan never cared about global icon status.
Michael Jordan was quoted as saying his sole motivation every night he played was what if he a person was up in the stands, and they've never even heard of or seen michael jordan play. and for the sake of argument, what if that was going to be the only game they ever see him play. Michael played his heart out every single game because he wanted to put on a show for the fans that loved and adored him. Unlike LeBron, who seems to treat fans as if they're worth less than s***. If he really cared about them, he would've had a normal press conference and conducted himself more professionally than this throughout the whole process. He didn't have to have a self promoting free agency period where he basically tells his home state, "F*** you!" That's classless. He'll never be another michael jordan in my book. jordan was the best player ever to play, so i hope Lebron never achieves his star status, as i'll really be p***ed.
You wouldn't be from Cleveland by any chance, would you?
no, just a huge nba fan. i used to be a huge michael jordan fan back in the nineties. and to be honest, james was one of the few players whom i wouldn't have mind seeing surpass Jordan's legacy. Now, I hope he never does, as that would be too big of an insult to Jordan.
On that note, I guess you can keep expecting it to come. However, in the event it does not show up for you. Welcome to HubPages anyways.
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