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   jfay2011posted 12 years ago

   I recently had my debit card hacked into and had to report a good chunk of fraud.  I had the debit card closed.  And when I get the new one, I will have to put it back on hubpages so I can get paid.  Has anyone else had it happen?  Can someone hack into hubpages and get our information?  That's a little scary.
   Yet at the same time, I want to get paid from hubpages.  Also, is it possible to make more money on hubpages?  I enjoy the site, regardless.  But it's awful to find out someone is using your card.  The internet is a scary place.

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      mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Where on earth did you get the idea you needed to give HP debit/credit card details in order to get paid? They only pay through Paypal as many others have said here. If you have been scammed on Paypal through providing THEM with a credit/debit card's details, then that is a different matter altogether, and nothing to do with Hubpages.

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         earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly. Rushing to post a thread that accuses this site is not very thoughtful.

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            kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Good way to get banned from here I would think...

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               earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Someone would have to report it first I guess, I"m annoyed, but we all mess up, so I think she should just come back to this thread and apologise to hubpages, I won't report her.

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                  kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yea but I do not like the fact of what she is saying. People could read that and think Hubpages is a scam or something.

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                     IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     If you had just been scammed, and you thought it was because of the site you were writing on, you'd have something to say too.
                     
                     Human nature, it's normal, but in this case others have pointed out to the OP that HP don't ask for or need your credit card details, so she has been scammed by an outside force.

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                        kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Right but I wonder why she thinks its the site she is writing on... Outside force...

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                           IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Perhaps she got an email purporting to be from HP?

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                              kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              I find it weird talking to a purple monster....

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                                 IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 thanks for making me smile

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                                    kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Teehee yes thats twice I made a smile today...

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                              jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              sorry, I am new to hubpages, and I guess i was wrong to post this question.  Maybe it could be paypal.  I just had it happen to me and was wondering where it was coming from.  It could have come from anywhere on the internet.  you're probably right, It probably is an outside force.  Sorry hubpages.  Just an upset person to find I'm being scammed and abused from an unknown source.  That's very frustrating.  One Click Cash has also had instances where some foreigners have been hacking into info.  I had someone try to scam me from that too.  The foreigner claimed that I owed a hefty sum of money and if I didn't pay it, he was going to come arrest me.  I've been a victim of fraud a bunch of times this year and don't know where it's coming from.

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                                 jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I've also had my hotmail address hacked into.  I also forgot that hubpages just has my paypal address.  Sorry, I forgot that.  I couldn't remember if I had given hubpages my debit card info.  From now on, I'm going to be deleting any important info on my hotmail address.  It's really scary to know that we can all get scammed from unknown sources.

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   Hubpages pays for the Hubpages Ads Program through Paypal.
   Google Adsense pays direct deposit or check or other ways(I think).
   
   
   So, I guess I'm missing something.

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      kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thats what i was thinking Cags....

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   Froggy213posted 12 years ago

   Much safer and wiser to use Paypal.

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   leahleflerposted 12 years ago

   I'm a little lost... I have never provided any debit or credit card information to HP - the HP ads pays via PayPal, which is pretty secure. How did your information get stolen through hubpages?

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   2uesdayposted 12 years ago

   Did you get an email requesting your card details? If the payment is through PayPal why would you need to submit debit card details? Plus I do n't think Adsense request this information.

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      jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      that's my mistake, i just forgot how I filled out the information.  And yes, i guess I'm naive and even though it's been seven months since i've been on, i'm still learning things.   I should probably go to the learning center again soon and do some reading.  Not everyone gets it all right away.

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         jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I should probably should change my password on my hotmail account.  I honestly don't know where it's coming from.

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            Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You may want to run a complete virus scan of your computer, but then - yes - change any e.mail passwords or passwords you have on accounts like debit or credit card accounts.  Make sure you check for available updates, including browser updates, and get those.  You probably already know this, but check your security/firewall settings to make sure you aren't inadvertently on one of the lower security ones.

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               jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               thanks,  all the info is greatly appreciated

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   relacheposted 12 years ago

   No part of the HubPages system requires credit card information to be entered.  Clearly you've been scammed, but it's not due to the function of this site. 
   
   This is why it's important to read the TOS for every site you join.  If you had read the site rules, you'd have known that anyone asking you for credit card info and saying it was related to getting paid by HubPages was trying to pull a scam.

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      K9keystrokesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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      David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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   LucidDreamsposted 12 years ago

   The hub patrol again!!!!!!!!

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   Just Ask Susanposted 12 years ago

   Why would you think that you have to give HubPages your credit card information?

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   earnestshubposted 12 years ago

   Not a good title without proof.
   I object to an accusation like this, the fraud could have come from anywhere, no need to just blame a site when you have provided nothing in the way of evidence, and have simultaneously displayed your ignorance of how the system works.
   
   
   
   
   Shabby!

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      jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      i never was accusing hubpages.  I was just asking if anyone had ever had a similar experience.  Geez

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    kmackey32posted 12 years ago

    There is NO fraud on Hubpages woman!!!!!!!!!!! You DO NOT put your credit card info to get paid at Hubpages eithor....

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       manthyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That is exactly what I was thinking....LOL

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    thisisoliposted 12 years ago

    it sounds like you got scammed, unless hubpages have started doing DD, and even then you really shouldn't be providing enough information  for someone to use your card without authorisation.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    For Goodness sake she is a fairly new user, certainly a new forum poster, and she has been scammed. A bit of sympathy wouldn't go amiss.

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       earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       You're right, and I commiserate, but it is way uncool to start blaming the innocent online as well.

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    mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years ago

    She is not totally new Izzy, 7 months is not 'new'. I am sympathetic, but still don't understand how after 7 months she still thinks she gave debit card details to Hubpages!

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Lots of people have written hubs but don't use the forums.
       
       Why should she know?
       
       I wouldn't be caught out with that scam, but then I am online all the time I am awake, near enough, but others might not be, that's all I'm saying.

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          mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Well wouldn't she know from when she signed up? Surely every member of HP knows they never gave their debit or credit card details when joining, regardless of whether or not they participate in the forums!
          
          Just my thoughts on the subject oh purple one

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             kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Be nice to my purple friend.....

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             IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             LOL @the purple one!
             
             Seven months ago, she probably stumbled across Hubpages (as we all did) and signed up, maybe even wrote a couple of hubs.
             
             Then, wandered about the internet or got on with life or whatever people do, then came back.
             
             Then HPads were introduced - when was that...summer? I was a trial member, but I remember they introduced it gradually to everyone. So 7 months ago, she didn't have the option of Hubads.
             
             Somebody somewhere has contacted her, asking for her credit card details (I am surmising here - I might be surmising a load of shite) and she has given it to them.
             She has thought this contact to be from Hubpages, and didn't know the difference because she had hardly used the site.
             
             Does that seem probable?

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                kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Yes my psychic furry friend.. Your right on...

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                mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                LOL, well maybe, I guess we won't know until she comes back and posts here to say what actually happened in her case. Strange though as I haven't read any other threads where people here have warned that they received a suspicious email from HP asking for their card details, which makes me think this may not have been a scam email pretending to be from HP. I will be interested to see if she does come back and say she now realises this was something to do with Paypal though, as I often get those authentic looking emails that look as if Paypal sent them, and asking you to log in from the link on the email. Needless to say I never do, and have reported plenty of them to Paypal. Ebay is the same story. Perhaps she is just a bit Internet naive! (my Sister is a bit like this so I do understand it).

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                jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                to izzy.
                no i haven't given my credit card info to anyone.  nobody asked me for that info

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                   jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   actually, when the girl stole my purse with all my info in it last year, she did have access to all my credit cards, my checking and my social security.  At that time, i closed my account and got my cards changed.  But maybe she still has access to my social security.  I don't know what she could do with that.  She did get caught and had to go to court.

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                jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                I stopped using the site for a while, as i got busy with other things.  Now i'm using it more regularly.

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    wychicposted 12 years ago

    I would wonder too if there's any proof of how the card got scammed? My husband's card got scammed TWICE in as many months, but we only use it at local merchants. We've never used that particular one online. The bank tried to blame someone hacking the merchant account of somewhere we shop, but I personally blame the bank -- our other debit cards have never been scammed, and they've been used at the same places plus some. Not naming names or anything, but it was a bank that started with US...just know that at least one major bank is having major security issues with a bunch of their accounts (when my husband requested check payments instead of deposits into that account, the customer service lady said she'd had a whole slew of similar requests). The fraudulent charges on ours showed up as internet sites, but I can't blame the internet for that one.

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       jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       that's scary too.  We like to think that our banks are secure.  i never thought of that.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    'Internet naive' sounds plausible, but then look back on this thread and can you blame her for not posting an update?
    
    She's probably terrified at this point in time!

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       MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Probably not, she's caught flack for all kinds of things both in her hubs and on the forums.  I have the impression that she catches flack for all kinds of things in real life too.
       
       I'll leave the majority of my opinion out here, but I think she may be a bit too obsessed with people stealing from her... as most of her hubs are about the subject.

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          kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Ooooooh one of those????? interesting

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             jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             no, I'm not one of those.  just a victim of people stealing from me and i'm choosing to write a novel about it,  Stephen King chose to write about his accident.  I'm choosing to write about stealing in this novel.  I've got other novels finished that are indeed not about stealing.  Black Roses is online at Barnes and noble and Amazon  and it's a mystery.  I've written another novel that is a romance and about people cheating.  So i indeed write about different things.

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          IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I just went and looked.
          yes there seems to be a novel in there about a thief, though now and again it is spelt theif, she might want to take a look at that, but I don't see a hub about credit card theft or anything obvious that might cast suspicion.
          Credit card theft happens.
          The only reason it has never happened to me is because no-one ever authorized me to have one!
          Well they did at one stage, but that's another story.

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             jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             thanks.  I'll take a look at that.  Probably a typo mistake.  I'm sure it happens to the majority of us when we're writing.

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                IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah, sorry, ubanichijioke was right, it did seem harsh and wasn't meant to be. I should have emailed you and I'm not one to talk, I am always finding typos on my own hubs, even after proof-reading.
                
                I did try to come to your defence in this thread as I felt some of the comments were unnecessarily harsh.
                
                Hotmail is well known for getting hacked; that is why most of us moved over to Gmail which is more secure.

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                   jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   thanks,   I have been going into my hotmail address a few minutes ago and I have found the same address that I had removed a few weeks ago.  It's back on again, so I need to get it removed.  I just changed my password on my hotmail account.  My boyfriend said to use an animal for it other that a last name.  i was using a family name and he said that someone could easily get a hold of that.  i'm going to change my password in paypal too.  Maybe that person hacked into my hotmail and tried the password on paypal too.  It's a really scary world we live in

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                      IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                      Your password should be more than a name - they use software to go through dictionaries and all possible misspellings too, to find out passwords.
                      
                      As passwords are case sensitive, I strongly suggest putting a capital letter in too, and not at the start of the word. Add a random number too, but something that you will remember obviously.
                      
                      That way, it is very unlikely they will get your password unless you inadvertently give it to them - like replying to a scam email that you though was genuine.
                      
                      NO company will ask you for your password in an email. If anyone ever does, don't click on the link in the email, go directly to their dot com address.
                      
                      It is sad but there are so many scammers out there, we have to be extra vigilant at all times.

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          jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          to melissabarrett:
          no i don't catch flack for things in real life.  maybe you should think before you judge someone. 
          I have just so happened to have been stolen from people on more than several different occasions.  I've had a purse stolen from my car, a cell phone stolen after a car accident, and the nail polish incident, and have also been a victim of fraud.
          And in my new novel, I'm choosing to write about the topic.  I think I can write about anything.  And actually I am not obsessed with the subject.
          I do believe that Stephen King chose to write about his accident afterwards.  Was he obsessed with that?  Probably not.
          
          if you chose to read my novel, Black Roses, you will not find anything about stealing in that story.  it is about murder.  It's a story about two sisters.  One is a good mother with a daughter and a regular job.  The other chooses to be a stripper/prostitute for an underground strip club and she's receiving black roses and all her johns are getting murdered.
          It's online now at Barnes and noble and amazon and other places.
          
          And for the facts:  right now i am working on the new novel, The Thief Who wouldn't learn.  And for the duration of writing it, will be the topic of stealing and murder will come into play.
          
          you should think before you trash someone you don't know

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       mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       You could be right on that point I agree!

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    Oh I am cute amen't I? Wee purple thing which I'm told is mossie - no not mossie..something similar. Forgotten.

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       kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes very cute....

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Moshi monster, that's me!

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    mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years ago

    Did you ever play Pacman Izzy (or are you too young)? your Avatar looks like one of the cute little monsters that used to chase you in the game!
    

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       Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Either my eyes or monitor colors (or both) aren't great.  I've been thinking the Izzy's avatar looks a little like Snuffleuppogus (sp?).  Either way, I like it (but sorry, Izzy, if Snuffy wasn't the image you were going for). 

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          mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I did a search for 'Snuffleuppogus' and I got this! Izzy doesn't look anything like this surely!!! LOL (definitely an eyes/monitor colours problem)
          

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             Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Ah!   Now that I see Snuffy again, I think I need to change my excuse to the fact that my kids are all over 25, and I haven't seen anything on daytime TV for about that long.    The eyes have their issues these days, but they're not THAT bad. 

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                mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                LOL, I was going to recommend laser eye surgery, but I reckon I'll let you off Lisa

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    Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

    I think some of the problem here is, maybe, a hastily, or awkwardly, written thread.  Here's my interpretation of it:
    
    The comment about the recent debit problems may have been by why of explaining her concerns about giving info to HP.
    
    It could have been a PayPal debit card, or else her PayPal account could be linked to  one of the Internet (or other) debit cards instead of a "classic" bank account. (Or, maybe PayPal wasn't a problem at all, and she's just worried about giving information, like social security number, PayPal e.mail, etc.)
    
    Either way, I think the title of the post was to ask about the subject of fraud on HP, rather than say it happened.
    
    Basically, I think the point of the thread is that she's worried about giving info to HP and wants to know if anyone has had any problems (in other words, she's looking for reassurance).
    
    As an extra point for the OP, e.mail accounts are hacked left and right.  There's a good chance any hacking of personal info happened in an e.mail account.
    
    If the OP is weighing whether earning potential is worth giving out personal info to HP (as opposed to giving it out "for nothing" because earnings are so low), the answer is that, while earnings may not be quick or "big bucks", yes, people do really earn enough to make the need for sharing personal info similar to anywhere else a person works part time. 
    
    This won't help with giving the tax info to HP, but PayPal does offer a security key that "adds another measure of protection" between strangers and the PayPal account - and whatever account the PayPal account is liked to.

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       mistyhorizon2003posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Getting back to your comment Lisa, I re-read the original post and title, and I think you could well be correct. It was just poorly worded and most people here probably jumped to the wrong assumption (myself included).

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    Aficionadaposted 12 years ago

    Frauds, scams, ID theft, etc., are all so prevalent now, that it's good for all of us to be reminded of how careful we need to be.
    
    On the other hand, jfay, if you've been a victim of fraud several times this year, I hope that means you are taking appropriate measures to make it more difficult for that to happen.  There are services around that are supposed to help protect people from such things, and it may be well worth the cost for you to purchase that kind of protection - or at least to investigate it.
    
    It's funny to me to see how I interpreted the title of this thread differently from others here.  I thought that jfay2011 was indicating that another Hubber (not the staff/owners) was committing the fraud!  And, since we have seen that that does sometimes happen, I was not so offended by the title.

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       jfay2011posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       thanks, I should look into that.

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    ubanichijiokeposted 12 years ago

    @IzzyM, that is not the right way to correct someone. It is highly discouraging.
    Thanks

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       What are you talking about?

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       Aficionadaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       
       ubanichijioke, I think you may have gotten some of the commenters confused.  IzzyM is the one who spoke up on behalf of a new-ish Hubber who was being criticized by others.  Some of the criticism may have been justified, but it was definitely trending towards the harsh side, and Izzy came to her defense.  Did it seem to you that she was directing her comments to the OP?

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          IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks, Aficionada
          
          That comment had me looking through the thread again, puzzled.

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    Anna Marie Bowmanposted 12 years ago

    I don't know... I was thinking Izzy's avatar looked more like Grimace from McDonald's...

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Just looked, and it does you know
       
       Except Grimace has a smiley face. http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isc … l5-1.1l2l0

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          kmackey32posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          wow, yes it does...

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    AEvansposted 12 years ago

    Never heard of giving credit card information to HP. Nor has HP ever requested that information.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    

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    ubanichijiokeposted 12 years ago

    Hi izzyM,
    i hope you are fine and having fun. About my previous post,
    I meant
    'i didn't like what you posted when you found errors in her spelling'
    A private message would ve been better.
    
    Nobody is above mistake you know.
    
    Take care.

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    Pearldiverposted 12 years ago

    Last year I noticed that a thief had been operating here
    
    I even posted this photo of the thief getting away... but nobody helped
    
    
    
    I'm sure being scammed on the Net is a harsh intro to the biggest and most profitable dodgy occupation in the world... But Hey... at least Your Card wasn't abused like My Goat was!!
    
    Sorry to hear about your plight.

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