At the beginning of December my traffic was down by around 60%. My hubs were in the same position in the SERPs as they had been previously, so the whole situation was rather odd. Today however, my traffic is up to pre December levels and climbing. Anyone else experiencing a surge in traffic?
I had the same experience - 75% drop in early December, then it bumped along at that level (except for a brief rally after Christmas), but it's now suddenly started climbing again. I've done nothing to cause the change - I think it's just Google tweaking.
No, I'm a bit below December levels, but nothing drastic. December was my all-time record month for views.
I do have one hub that gets a significant number of views in the Christmas season (well, significant for me!), and a new one produced this year was also fairly popular. Unsurprisingly, views for both of these have now dropped significantly.
I went through all of my hubs yesterday (took the entire day) and did the spring cleaning HP suggested in a previous forum thread. I even removed my "vote up" banner from every hub. I started cleaning-up my hubs about a week ago, and began seeing traffic rise because of it. So, this is where I felt my traffic surge was coming from. I am seeing about 30% rise in traffic since doing the maintenance, especially on older hubs. Have you been doing some clean-up as well? If so, possibly this is where the boost is coming from?
Just guessing, as nothing is for sure I am finding out!
Keystrokes isn't talking about the thing where we can either vote something down or up - but a personalized banner or photo capsule that Keystrokes was using.
Thanks Todd! HP makes it clear that we should vote and comment with their own banner, so ours are not needed; actually will be banned soon. There is a thread about it at the top of the forums page by Jason. Sorry for the misunderstanding LindaSmith1.
I just give up. I am terrible at seo I have 38 hubs and barely get 50 views a day. Only about 5 of my articles are not of very good quality so that still gives me over 30 hubs of good quality.
I would hardly say just started. I know people on here that have been on the site for less, have less hubs, and are claiming to have around 3K page views per day.
We've both been here around the same amount of time and I've never had anything like that. The most hits I've had in a day were around 250 and that was mainly down to one holiday hub that did really well.
You have still got over 10 K total views mind, thats with less Hubs than I have. I just would love to know what I am doing so wrong. I don't think its my writing because I often get positive feedback from other writers comments. Therefore it just has to be my SEO that is terrible. Can you offer me any ideas on how to increase my rankings. For instance, give me an example of what you do after you have published a hub to increase views to it ?
To be honest, I'm pretty rubbish at SEO too. I generally use keywords that are searched but not highly searched. My aim is to generate 10 hits a day on each hub (I haven't necessarily achieved that though) After I publish a hub I use Imautomator, social monkee and social adr. There's loads of hubbers that know way more about SEO than I do though, so I'd suggest starting a post and asking for help. People will gladly give it.
If you post in extreme hub makeover, you can ask for feedback from really experienced hubbers (I'm not one, I don't feel I have the right to critique another's work when I'm so inexperienced myself)
Also, read some of Izzy m's hubs about optimization and also Sunforged, there are loads more, I just can't bring them all to mind right now.
Do you realize that people LIE pretty often?
Also, they might be writing about things that they researched the keywords for, and well know they were highly used search terms with low competition.
Never beleive the hype. People like to give the impression they're more successful than they are. Read their hubs and think about where their traffic might be coming from.
If you can actually see where they might be getting some traffic from use that as an inspiration to open your mind for your next hub
Don't give up. When you least expect it, things will get better. i gradually worked on SEO, and it took me forever. Then gradually things started to click. I used a website or blog of Wesman and got better and better. i changed some titles and made revisions. My views are better but not that great. I am exited about learning SEO a little better.
Thank you for your words of encouragement if they were directed at me
Luke, have you considered joining a hub Challenge? I learned so much from mu challenge team, and by reading the learning center here on HP. It is a lot of work, but for me anyway, it really paid off in terms of getting some SEO knowledge going.
This might sound odd since i'm on hubpages, but i'm not a heavy reader. I love to write, but reading loads is not my thing. I have actually never read an entire book in my life ! I'm the sort that would prefer to learn lots of information from a video. If the learning center was more of a bullet point type style then that would be good for me. However what I have seen its long lengthy writing. Its just not my learning style unfortunately as it doesn't sink in through reading lengthy pages of info. Thank you for the thought though.
I love to read, but the book has to capture my attention within the first couple of pages. I also learned in later life that I'm a visual kinesthetic learner, a seer and doer. We all learn in different ways. If you're an experiential learner then you just need to keep experimenting and do what's right for you. Just keep writing and experimenting.
Hey Hollie, I bet when you started this thread you didn't imagine it would have gotten this big, its getting huge ! Yeah I learn best with things that are more hands on like driving a car, unfortunately I cant get hands on online unless I'm Neo out of the matrix so I can plug myself in That way I could start doing some right nifty tricks with Google !
First, Google gives your sub-domain a "Panda" score based on its overall quality. Google has said that even one or two low quality posts can result in your entire site being penalized. So if you feel you have some low quality Hubs, delete them or revise them - they may be dragging everything else down.
Second, SEO is only part of the story. If you're writing about a popular subject that's already extensively covered elsewhere on established blogs, you're wasting your time - there's no way you're going to knock them off the top spots in the search engines, no matter how well-optimized your Hubs are. It strikes me that might be part of your problem.
The other possible problem is that you're choosing topics no one is searching for. Before you write a Hub, ask yourself, "is anyone likely to be searching for this?" If the answer is no, then you'll make very little money on it! That doesn't mean you shouldn't write it for fun, just don't expect it to be an earner.
@ Writeangled, I wonder perhaps if another panda is presently being rolled out? If you have noticed a decrease in traffic from just two of your hubs, then perhaps this is just a temporary situation. (Fingers crossed)
@ K9keystrokes. I have altered a couple of titles today and added some tags to a couple of hubs, but my traffic was already beginning to rise prior to my doing this so, I'm pretty sure the surge is unrelated. Just hope it continues.
Got it...I hope it continues for you as well Hollie.
I'm not bothered about it at the moment. The two hubs are seasonal, and they accounted for a 15-20% increase in views during most of December. Unsurprisingly, those views have now died off. I'm now back to where I was last November and reasonably happy since I'm getting 10-12 times the views I had at the depth of Panda and about 4 times the views I had during my best pre-Panda period.
There are fluctuations from day to day, but no real trend at the moment. I find the fluctuations in CPM more annoying. It is frustrating to have a really good day in views translate into lower than average daily earnings.
I've been writing specialized hub pages on the topic of Chemtrails for a year now. As I make new discoveries, then I post my new findings. I've spent over 8-16 hour days trying to get to the bottom of what this technology is all about. When I finally had a breakthrough in understanding, I posted the results and then posted this on the Chemtrail groups that I have been a part of online and on Facebook.
This last Chemtrail article has already received over 1500 views and has not even been up a month yet. But I worked my tail off pulling up and posting the best videos that I've found on this subject.
http://artzgirl.hubpages.com/hub/So-You … on-Rampage
Another thing that I did, I went back to the bulk of the videos that I posted from youtube-- and made a quick note to let people know that I had taken a year and a half to research this topic and that I had created a video culmination of my efforts. This has probably doubled the viewership from sources on youtube-- and I did the same on the Chemtrail groups that I've been a part of on Facebook and personally wrote e-mails to friends that I knew that are interested in this topic.
It all helps.
Don't give up--
Write on topics that you are passionate about, then let people know that you've posted a new article!
I had a real good surge for the first week in January which has eased off to December levels. However many of my sports training related hubs focus on winter type training which people may have set as resolutions/ targets post New Year
I don't know if to call it a 'surge' exactly, but I've noticed that my Hub views are going up in number pretty steadily. For example, I published a Hub a few days ago, and it quickly passed out my previously best performing Hub in views! I'm really happy about it
Also, I've noticed that my Hubscore is staying pretty high, but I don't know if that's exactly related.
This is great information here - and actually very encouraging. I was sitting here earlier today wondering...Uh...some of my hubs don't even have comments. :'( I think they're high quality and everything...K9keystrokes - you're an awesome Hubber, by the way. When I first got here, I immediately went your hubs and "studied" them so I could become better myself. I went to a lot of the "Elite" pages and studied to make my hubs better. It's a comprehensive process, this Hubbing.
I know I just started, but I'm soooo wanting to be farther up the ladder than I am...pageviews, more efficiency in writing....
What you have accomplished in just 7 weeks is truly amazing.
Thanks cclitgirl, you are too kind. I learned as you are, by watching my Hubber mentors and asking questions as I knew nothing. Only with the help of this great community did I learn how to put a hub together. You, are on a very good path to becoming a really successful hubber. I will be asking you for advice in no time!
Great information and advice here. I'm new to HP but am eager to learn. Thanks to all for sharing.
No my traffic is going down. Sadly, this month will not be near as good as December.
Google is messing with everyone right now I think.
I have a website which averages ~40-80 visits a day. On January 9 it suddenly had over 400 hits from search engines, on unrelated and varying topics. Then the next day it was back to normal views~
I've only been at this for a few months, but I really worked to build up my hubs. Early in January I was getting 350 hits per day. All of a sudden, it dropped off the face of the earth and I was down to 40 hits per day for a while. Now I'm between 75 and 100 per day, but not near where I was. I filed a re-inclusion request a week or so ago with Google to see if my HP subdomain had been penalized. Still waiting to hear about that. Fingers crossed.
There's a link on one of the forum posts from a few weeks ago, I can't remember the name of the thread (not helpful, I know) and you could input your sub domain URL and it would give an instant answer as to whether you had been sand boxed. Perhaps someone will be along shortly with the link.
I was getting about 3K views a week in Oct. and Nov. Dec. was fine for the first half of the month, then all my stuff sunk like a stone. Is it Google? I finally felt like I was getting somwhere, and now yesterday had all blue arrows. I do clean up my hubs pretty often. I hope it's a passing thing.
I found a link to a Google Sandbox checker, but it sand every site I typed in was in the sandbox, lol. I'm interested to see where the reinclusion request I filed with Google gets me, and if I even hear back from anyone. I haven't been on HP long enough for my stuff to become stale, I use a lot of original photos, I don't use Amazon or eBay affiliates, I don't use more than 20 key phrases and almost all of my hubs are between 400 and 1,000 words. It's just really frustrating.
If you are using the searchenginegenie sandbox tool. I would not take it seriously. It says that my most popular page is sandboxed- which it definitely isn't.
It does look as if many of your pages are still sandboxed, though.
I'm paranoid about Panda so when anyone says they have plunged I go look and try to see what might have caused it. Your pages are detailed and informative, read well and generally reek of quality so I am surprised. Usually when someone has been hit by Panda the cause is obvious.
Having said that, I wonder if the issue is that you have some pages that get poor view durations and might be worth deleting. A few pages that Google hates can sink a small, newish account.
Also, I noticed that some of the topics you are covering have been well covered before and sometimes with exactly the same title. This is an issue taken seriously on sites like Wizzley. If what you are offering is already widely available they won't let you publish it. I am guessing they decided on this policy because they reckon it is a Panda issue.
Hi Will and All:
Well, after pounding my head against the wall for a week and a half, I unpublished some of my hubs with low scores last night, which was about five out of my roughly 75 just to see what happened. I haven't seen a bump in traffic yet, but I noticed that it looks like I've fully regained my previous positions in Google's SERPs! I'm new and have very little clue what I'm actually doing, but if you're having problems with page views, seriously consider un-publishing some of your hubs with low scores. Hopefully, I can avoid whatever landed me in the Google sandbox for a very long time.
I know you've pointed this out in a few other forums, Will, but thanks for banging the drum and taking the time to help a newer hubber. I appreciate it.
Many of us are experiencing similar changes in traffic right now, even though we've done nothing - so I don't think you can draw any conclusions from it, unfortunately, except that Google is tweaking.
Congrats! You seem to be out of the sandbox. Whether the deletions did the trick or it was something else, who knows?
One thing for sure, you don't want pages Google really hates in your account. That is just asking for trouble.
I had a downward surge in traffic.
It's starting to get frustrating to be honest. The more, higher quality, hubs I write the less views they seem to get.
This is why I haven't been publishing hubs frequently here. I just don't want to invest too much time for nothing. Google is messed up, they don't seem to know what they want from authors.
Same here Hollie. I haven't been writing here as much since November. My astrology hubs do the best, and I wrote 2 new ones. Normally they get about 30 reads in two days, and these got 10 & 12! People don't comment on them much, but they do read them, and according to the stats, read them all the way through. I'm writing on Helium and concentrating on my blog. I hope it gets better. I like it here.
Jean, writing on Helium - really? You do know that you can never, ever delete your articles from there and the pay is lousy. They also have a record of changing rules even more frequently than HubPages.
Jean you may want to read this hub about helium.
http://marisawright.hubpages.com/hub/He … n-or-Money
Just over 30 articles on Helium bring in less than $1 a month! That's with a 3-star author score, which is not bad for so few articles. And that pathetic sum only gets paid if I decide I want to waste time on their compulsory rating.
I'm not sure what to think about Helium. The subjects are varied, but rather uninteresting. I wrote 9 pieces, and "won" my $1.00 for 2 of them. I went into it thinking they paid up front, lies as usual. It appears from forums they used to have weekly contests, which paid better, but are offering less of them. Tonight they did offer me a list of freelance topic assignments to choose from, but none of them interested me and they didn't say how much it would pay. I don't care if I can't delele from there, the topics are such no brainers I figured I could pick up some quick cash, but you have to make $25 to get it, and at $1.00 a time, that could take long. I prefer HP, because I can write about what I want. But the traffic and games HP is playing are getting discouraging too. Helium also has a weird footnoting system, and something called Leapfrog. They expect you to fix anything in your article by putting it through this Leapfrog process, and then when or if you do, you are starting at a score of about 50 and have to work your way back up. It's mindless, I have one "How not to eat at night." I wrote good ones on Eros and Psyche, but the audience doesn't seem very bright. Many of the forum posts seem really old too.
If no price is stated and you see RS, you only get revenue share for views, which is how I make less than £1 a month for just over 30 articles.
For just under 30 articles here, I make more in a day than I make in a month at Helium!
Added to which the "community" there is one of the nastiest, smug, self-satisfied bunch of ******* I have met on the Net.
The fact an author cannot make corrections/updates without having to endure the leapfrog system is idiotic.
I did actually get rating down to a fine art, so that I am able to maintain at least one rating star in less than one hour's rating every couple of months. However, even that is starting to feel like a ridiculous waste of time for a return of less than a dollar per month on my articles!
I didn't knock myself on Helium. I think my writing is better than much of what I am seeing there though. But when your article is graded by large groups of people, the stats keep changing. So a good article could end up 4th out of 5 who wrote to that topic. I didn't choose any for revenue share, as I said I thought you got the money just for writing the article. I didn't write anything of importance. Well, maybe one, but it's OK. Not sure if I'll stay. Anything I wrote I only spent less than 45 minutes on it, my time is more valuable. I will check out some of the sites Marisa mentioned.
DON'T DO IT!!! They can ban you and keep all of your articles with no chance of getting them back. I should know. The have over 100 of my article and have sold some of them since I was booted from the site. I finally reported them to the Better Business Bureau but they would not even respond to them.
I've written 2 hubs about them and sullied their name all over the net. I caught them lying about their "volunteer" stewards--now called Channel Mangers--not getting paid. Crooks they are! Beware their TOS!
Watch out for the contests if a channel manager is entered. They have special rating privileges and can rate in any channel they choose. This means they can choose the channels of the contest subjects and rate down or reject leapfrogs of their competition. Without being able to leap(edit) your articles they will not rise in rank, and therefore, not win you any money. Sorry I was long winded but wanted to warn you about Helium :Where Knowledge Ain't
You know, I wrote a really good piece on Eros and Psyche, for Valentine's Day, and I know it would have been popular here. It didn't win, and one of the Channel Mgrs. did win. So I guess you are right, everyone is dissing them, and I hate the Leapfrog feature, it's stupid and time wasting to tie up your article in there for almost 2 days to change a typo. I only wrote 9 articles, but several would have been nice for HP, and I already have a better body of work here. I just get discouraged and some months don't make the payout. Backlinking doesn't do much for me. I was happy 2 out of 8 out my articles won, but that's one quarter, so I'd have to write 100 to make $25.00 at that percentage. I'm going to stop while I'm OK. I didn't give them anything really good, the topics are silly.
I just checked back because Helium told me my Eros and Psyche piece "transitioned" back from wherever. I didn't "Leap" it. The same guy beat me that did once before, and his stuff isn't much different. Also, it looks like somebody screwed with my article. The tenses are all mixed, and though I usually check because I'm inclined to do that, I was careful here. They change your stuff on you too!
Yep, one of their editors contacted me to tell me she was going to change one of my articles, not knowing I was permanently banned from the site. You can imagine my reaction. Needless to say, after she received my response to her email I haven't heard from her. I stated that under no circumstance did she have my permission to edit my articles. I doubt it stopped her though!
A leapfrog only takes 3 rejects to kill it, Jean. That's why I say the contests are manipulated. Two or three CMs can get together and help each other kill all leaps which may compete with their own. Yes, the leaps are stupid. and make the contest not for the best piece, but for the most timely leaps.
After the contest is over the best article usually begins to rise and the winner usually falls. Very discouraging to any writer entering the contest when the same crappy authors win the contests.
Traffic seems to be odd at the moment, my best hub still remains first in Google and at 1000 views a day but I think its losing a bit from other search engines, but yes I'm seeing a lot of other hubs with about 100 views a day.
I'm actually experiencing a drop in traffic however I've only been here for a few weeks and don't have long term stats to compare anything to.
My traffic has been up 30% for over a week,but I published about 15 hubs this month. Saying that the extra traffic is on some of my older hubs not the new ones.
Some of my older hubs have gone up in their serps positions and gained extra traffic accordingly.
This is weird. I haven't done anything to my hubs recently. I added the short summaries when that was recommended, but haven't written a new one or changed anything else in months.
I do check in for my traffic, to answer comments, see if I'm making more than $0.10 per day, etc.
For the last about one week, I've had at least 4 times as much traffic as ever from Google on my 2 most popular hubs. Over half of my hubs are up 2X or more and I don't know how or why that has happened.
I have made about 3x as much money (which is very, very little still- don't be jealous ) as before this surge. I have NOT made more with adsense or amazon, however. So, it hasn't been a financial windfall (and with my informational hubs, and few of them at that, I don't expect this), but it is nice to see people getting the info and commenting on it.
Oh, and I just remembered that before this, I had a drop from my usual few views per day across all my hub to almost NONE for a period of a couple weeks. I don't know if any of this info helps anyone figure out what is going on, but thought I'd throw it out there, just in case.
So far, mine has been going up and down day-by-day. Waiting to see how it is for the full month, but definitely up. Of course, I am still building and adding hubs, so that makes a difference.
I've noticed that the "additional" traffic I'm getting appears to be coming from search engines I've never heard of. Not to sure what this might mean.
I will confirm that my traffic has doubled in the past 24 hour cycle.
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