I think the downward ranking our hubs are experiencing in the big G SERPS is as a result of HubPages sharing in their market.
HubPages was hit by Panda long before the HP Ads program was introduced. So there cannot possibly be any relationship.
Honestly, it's sad seeing one time Google's favorite now downgraded without any cogent reason from the so-called mighty G.
We can only hope they are brought to task eventually for manipulating their search engine for their own enrichment. I'm pleased to see Yahoo and Bing contributing more traffic to my hubs lately. It's no secret there are more and more internet users who dislike Google's search engine. But so far Google doesn't care as they are raking in the dough. It's the American way!
This is an interesting discussion.. I am following this one keenly ...
Only the G can know if that is the case - it then becomes a manual "G slap". Qualitative metrics are done that way, not the quantitative measures.
I don't think that algorithm works in that way though, it is encompassing.
Hi Prettydarkhorse, don't you think their algorithm could be programmed in such that it does not favor HP, again remember the big G knows why hubs were ranking high in SERPS. So it could be manipulated.
The HP ad program started just a day after the first version of Panda was released.
Google search engine and Google Adsense are two different sections.
I'm quite sure that Google isn't going to cut off traffic simply for using a different affiliate program - otherwise large sites that use direct sponsorship or other advertising would never rank.
And some people are doing very well with views, with the HP ad program - while others who don't have it are doing badly.
I think it's a ridiculous notion and there is a link between the HP ad program and page rankings.
It was shown clearly last year (after HP staff were publicly posting on Google forums) that HP has no direct line of contact with Google and therefore there is no proof that Hubpages is a "favourite" just that they are ranking because of content and page layout/SEO.
I wonder IF Google is against some of the RSS feeds that we have been using. The hubs with my unique RSS feeds have tanked. The hubs with real key terms for RSS feeds have done well.
I am in the process now of unpublishing those hubs that have died in traffic. I will next go through and analyze to see if those hubs had a common denominator of "bogus tags" for my own personal rss feeds.
Any one else have experiences with a drop with hubs with unique RSS feeds?
Why unpublish them? Why not just change them?
If you unpublish them and they get de-indexed, republishing will restart their age from 0. And also, if there are any duplicates of your work out there, they could outrank you.
It is interesting to note that a Google owned site gained in many areas after Panda whereas other large sites were hit negatively very hard, including HP. YouTube (Google owned) thrived after Panda and continues to thrive with each update.
I'm glad this came up in the thread before I decided to unpublish some of my hubs, re-structure, then re-publish. I'll just edit, one by one now - thx for the info.
Probably a silly question and a little off topic but: edit: (questions)
How does one receive traffic to the sub-domain? Is it from incoming links or search engines, if it is search engines how is it listed in traffic sources?
Is it possible that a viewer lands on one of my hubs then goes to my profile which leads them to a different hub. would this activity be listed multiple times under different traffic sources?
I believe it is. Just as a visitor that visits 3 hubs is recorded as 3 "pieces" of traffic, so it is with traffic sources.
If that visitor comes to hub A via google, then to your profile and on to hub B you will have 3 visits, one from google and 2 from your subdomain.
I don't get this. My traffic has never been huge, but it's as good as it's been and steadily so. Of course, I must be the most negligent SEO worker in the universe. I keep thinking of doing SEO but never have time for it. Maybe Google is playing games with the very thing that everyone is being told to do.
If some of your hubs appears in the related hub section of highly traffic hubs, you'll probably get good traffic as well but only if your hub title is unique and very attractive.
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