why could BUSH be president of Ameica?
President Bush is absolutely not a "stupid" man. The word stupid typically refers to someone who is mentally slow, as in mentally challenged or mentally retarded. I strongly dislike it when people use words like that in the wrong sense; I have worked with mentally challenged children. I think it makes people sound uneducated to use these terms in an incorrect manner.
You can only act upon information that you are given. Does it make you stupid if you receive poor information? No! If so, we'd all be "stupid". In some ways, President Bush was misinformed, I'll give you that, but he is not stupid.
President Bush won the American presidency because he was chosen by the American people. I have met him as well as his family on plenty of occasions and I truly respect the Bush family. You'll not meet a kinder, more gracious woman, than Laura Bush. HW is an absolute riot and a lot of fun to talk to.
I know by saying this that I'll have a lot of backlash on here, but that's ok...I can deal with it.
They are genuinely nice people. Anyways, it makes me almost physically sick when people compare President Bush to Hitler or Hussein.
History will judge his presidency ( 10,15,50 years from now) as it did of presidents in the past. Lincoln wasn't terribly popular in his day, either.
I'll end by saying that everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinions, I totally respect that. I can only hope that you'll do the same for me.
Wow Girly, can I re-join your fan club?
It takes some serious courage to make such a statement on such a heavily anti-Bush siteI think that stupid is a relative term. I would probably be considered stupid when compared to Einstein, but perhaps much less so when compared to Bush Jr.
Also, intelligence and niceness are separate variables. However, proving some type of correlation would be an interesting exerciseYou're welcome.
I'm just thankful that we live in a country where our people can choose who they feel will do the best job every four years. I may not always vote for who gets elected, but I love democracy and the fact that we can have peaceful elections. Because of our elections system, it's impossible to get an "imbecile" or "stupid" person in office and I truly appreciate that!
Of course...you are supposing that he actually won the first election
And our rights continue to drain away, courtesy of the current administration. Phone companies given immunity, class warfare fostered, transparency in government given only lip-service, the constitution violated ... but Obama's a Democrat, so he must have a good reason for doing all the same things Bush did. It's all good when a liberal does it.
- girly_girl09posted 14 years ago
0Again, I'm thankful for our democracy and our elections system. Yes, we absolutely need some changes...there is absolutely room for many irregularities and fraud. But, I'm personally confident Bush legitimately won both elections.
I won't begin to elaborate upon my experience with national elections and voting integrity, but let's just say that I consult on the topic professionally. Opinions about the former president ("Bush 43") aside, it has been said he has a high IQ.
I have no reason to want to defend the man; but I've often wondered if his trouble speaking spontaneously on camera may have been related to, perhaps, his being a little uncomfortable with the cameras (and the world) focused on him. Some people aren't the least bit fazed by having to speak "to the world" (in fact, sometimes they come across as a little too confident). I know people who are quite intelligent but poor speakers. (Oh well, he's out now - guess it doesn't matter at this point ).- I know you are just discussing...but you know, Lisa, nobody who is smart actually believes in IQ anymore.
I didn't see it as discomfort. I saw it the goony behavior of a legacy brat D- student who never did the requisite homework for the position. Also the behavior of a light weight figure head placed there, while the heavy hitters behind the scenes (like Cheney) ruled from behind.
It's a forum post, not an English paper. But then, of course, it is not like you to miss any opportunity to feel superior. Much easier to go ad hominem, isn't it
There is so much talk about Bush on these forums. I'm puzzled.
- MangoGirlposted 14 years ago0
The same in the UK - the politicians are all appearing on the news, saying how sorry they are that they stole from the taxpayer.
Of course, what they mean is that they are sorry that they were caught
That's the difference here - Greeks know that politicians are corrupt. They don't mind, as long as it does not go too far - then they burn Athens
They find the whole scandal hilarious - for years, the British have looked down upon Greece as a corrupt nation (which it is). The moral high ground is gone
LOL Sufi, yeah, that may actually make a difference. Knowing that there is no such thing as an honest politician puts things into perspective
...or Catholic Church
Keep going people, it is very entertaining
I put my 'toughness' behind GT's outlook in support,
Agreed.
LOL Here we go again
GT, trust me, you would have been much better off just leaving it hereCheers - looks like we have ringside seats.
I no longer discuss US internal politics, but it is a good spectator sport.
LOL I had to look 'ringside seat' up. I am building my vocabulary every day while on HP
- Easy to forget that you are ESL, sometimes - One day, I hope that my Greek is as good as your English
Hahahhahahhaa
I would say that I am pretty liberal, and I have a great life
No you're right, I am off on the math by single digits.
I think that most people think that he is stupid. Personally, I think that somebody who manages to be President must be reasonably intelligent - the media has a lot to do with the portrayed stupidity thing. Politicians are always going to be caricatured.
Sadly, his international diplomacy left a lot to be desired - his legacy will be felt for a long time in the Middle East. To be fair, judging by the crap he serves up nowadays, I am not sure if Gore would have been much better
LOL Still off
That is a good quote - it could probably be adapted to suit most countries!
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