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   Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years ago

   Just thought I would ask to see how other people handle them.  I just delete them and don't acknowlege, I have found that if you answer it just gets worse.
   
   Who has this problem?

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      LaViejaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't as yet, experienced that, but I am new. However, I have noticed that some of the forums can be quite aggressive, I am not sure how to deal with that either!

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         Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I avoid the forums most of the time unless it is something fun.  But I got someone today that was a real pain....I love that delete button.

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            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Not to get off topic Tammy and in no way do I want to hi-jack your thread, but I feel compelled to tell you something?
            
            I LOVE that picture of you.

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               Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks [blushing] Cags you just made my day

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                  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  You're welcome. I noticed it yesterday. Was thinking of using it in my hub.

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                     Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     

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                  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Btw- it's nice to know you blush easily. j/k

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      Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I post thier comment then simply tell them I appreciate there comments,..whether we see eye to eye or not.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't had this problem because I don't generally write on contentious issues.  If someone simply had a contrary opinion and expressed it forcefully, I'd leave it in the spirit of free speech.  If I decided to reply and the exchange degenerated into a slanging match, I'd delete the whole exchange.
      
      Anything rude or profane, I'd delete straight up.

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         wsp2469posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Seriously though, I agree with most of what Marisa said.
         It's about free speech.
         I don't even care if it's rude or profane since you can really only say so much in HP.  I have had a couple people reply with their first reactions and kiss and make up with me in e-mails but I still keep their initial negative comment published.
         Luckily, the negative vibes in all but one case were a result of something that had nothing to do with me when all was said and done.

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      wsp2469posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Look, you should be f***ing I comment on your writing!

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      goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Being of a closely watched and "demeaned" religion I am prodded quite often both on the internet as well as out in the real world.  First thing to remember is discipline.  You must have enough integrity and discipline to not write or post anything on the internet that you truly don't believe or cannot back up.  This is your defense.  If you have a deep testimony or belief in what you are writing you will know how to handle the crap that will be handed you.
      
      For me I suppress the rhetoric with kindness.  Contention only breeds contention.  If I get a nasty note, which I just did on another thread, I reply with kindness and never respond to that person again on that topic.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I think this is a good approach.  Attacking back only inflames the situation.  It's not a question of turning the other cheek, it's about behaving as though you're above such childish behaviour.

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            goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for the comment!
            It can be very difficult not to reply with the same force as was shown to you.  However, we must remember that one of man's most cherished downfall is pride.  It is pride that wants us to defend against words of others with contention.  Words will never hurt us as long as we don't let them. 
            
            However, if you are an extremely sensitive type just forget forums, keep hubbing and disable the comments capsule.  I've got faith in you though.

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            The Ropeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Here! Here!  It's also about the value of the statement to the hub - if it adds value, even if it is another opinion, leave it.  Remember that even negative or contentious statements can have value in the overall read, your job is to go beyond or above them, don't take the bait - be the grown up.  Your reputation will benefit in the long run.  I've had spam which I deleted of course and a negative or two but those I always leave.  I have faith in my fellow readers - they'll see it for what it is.

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      Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's probably because you're one of those punk rocker delinquents. (na-na-na-na-na-na-na, I want to start a fight!)
      
      I don't have those problems because I'm shy.
      
      And cuz nobody reads my hubs cuz they suck.

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         Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         How did you know that was the one?  So what I'm still a rockstar.
         
         Your hubs don't suck.  I read them. 

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            Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Cuz I'm psychic.
            
            Oops, wait. That's psycho.
            
            Never mind.

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               Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               

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               Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Psycho psychic not much difference from what I've seen.  LOL...ur really funny Sara.    Witty that's why you are such a good writer.

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         Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Stop begging for compliments... (You write really well and you know it.)

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      B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have gotten very upset over it before, now I simply ignore it...
      I would not make fun of others, and do not ever think anyine should make fun of me...
      "Treat others only how you want to be treated"
      
      I stay away from the chiches now and things have been bettter for me..I have been having some personal issues outside of hubpageres and got some pretty horible comments when I tried to talk about it, so I only post on threads that are now harmless and keep my issues  that do not matter to hubpages to myself..
      
      yet I will always try to help another with my knowledge or feelings when they are hurting or in need.
      
      
      ~ Kerry

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Funny thing is for all the time I've been here I did not really have too aggressive commenters. Like bark a bit in comments and go away, nothing major.
      
      But lately I got to see something extraordinaire.
      
      The guy appeared on one of my hubs a few days ago. He picked up a line from one of my comments on that hub that did not have much relevance to the hub topic, put this line totally out of context and promptly proceeded to fight a straw man he just created.
      
      We exchanged a couple of more comments - of course I was making fun out of him - and then he disappeared. I already forgot about the incident, but yesterday I stumbled upon a hub of him, specifically created to fight this straw man, and to bash me personally. Seriously, I did not see that much of venom spitted on me since the infamous hub titled "Mark and Misha are condescending vaginas".
      
      I would say it would be an extreme case of aggressive commenter. But Tammy, you just left a comment on that guy's hub, saying you agree to every word this guy said. Isn't it a bit hypocritical? Just a tiny bit?

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      yenajeonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know what you mean exactly by aggressive, but I've had *pervert* commentors; whose messages I delete. Because ugh! who wants to deal with a pervert?

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         myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         don't get me started here! All those ridiculous comments which have NOTHING to do with your hubs but just go something like ' hi hot pic, wanna be friends?'  and so on....  Just delete!

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            NateSeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Are those actual hubbers? I know non-hubbers can comment here, from what I've seen in other comment pages. I bet anything they don't even have a sentence written much less an account.

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            yenajeonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Amen! Maybe we need to change our pictures to trolls. Do you think we'd get those comments then?

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               myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               we are who we are, why should we change for anyone? Keep smiling....AND deleting!

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       B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I just got my first one today..I deleted it and forgot about it untill now..I remember the name they used, and I tried my best to see if it was a hubber and the name did not even register..left a very nasty comment on my paranormal site, saying if I believed in the paranormal I was crazy and needed help and it was all a bunch of Bu$$sh$$ to them..
       
       deleted, gone..
       
       
       probly was just someone who did it to others with paranormal sites and did not even stick around to do any hubbing , etc. as far as I can tell..
       
       does not matter, we know we all write decent hubs...

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   A lot of people who claim to be aware of their own ignorance, but when their ignorance is shown to them, they refuse to see it.
   
   I realize in saying that, I could be seen as ignorant. However, I am only ignorant in the aspect of knowledge, not life.

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      tobey100posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Dang good answer.  As I right so many hubs on politics I get alot of very long winded comments trying to convince me I've lost my mind.  The irritating thing to me is that facts usually don't bother them too much.  I might have 3 comments from 3 different hubbers that say the same thing almost to a word.  Damn near spam.  I delete them usually.

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   And, to answer you post- I delete their comments from my Hub, but deal head to head with them in the forum.

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      Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Cags...but you aren't mean.  I didn't initiate someone to say something ugly...you've read my hubs, nothing to get upset over...
      
      army infantry mom.  I tried that today and they got worse with exclamation marks and the whole thing LOL. 

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         Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well then I'd suggest doing what Cagsil does,..

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      me too. i refuse to let people leave graffiti on my hubs. i will go head to head in the forums sometimes, but usually if someone is just poking me for their own stupid purposes, i ignore them like the plague that they are. i'm not afraid to defend my position in the forums, but i refuse to argue pointlessly with people who enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing. but my hus are different because i work hard on those and i won't allow anyone to besmirch them.

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   fastfretaposted 14 years ago

   I did get one once and I did as you did.  I deleted it.  I find the HubPages community by and large are the best.  Actually the one that I got came from outside of HubPages.

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      Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      freta...this one was from outside too.  It was spam and I explained nicely and it was answered by an attack. 

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         Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         tobey, couldn't agree more. 

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   mikelongposted 14 years ago

   I can be aggressive....I realize this...but it is for the greater good...

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      Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Nothing wrong with being aggressive in the right forum...seriously

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   Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

   Trolls and spammers I delete. I also delete haters, bigots and fight-mongers. Sensible, responsible objections to my writings I allow. I think it's pretty obvious about the intentions some commenters have, and I just deal with it accordingly.

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      Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Cool...if I may say so I am mostly correct for deleting a jerk.  Wish I had a delete button in real life.  Maybe this is why some people are so addicted to the cyberlife. 

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   wsp2469posted 14 years ago

   All your other commenters are f***ing wrong and i am f***ing right!

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      

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   wsp2469posted 14 years ago

   I am gonna post a lotta links with my comments too because i am so convinced I can make money like this as opposed to actually working!

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      Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        comment away I have my delete button.

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         Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Marissa, wsp2469,  I don't write anything that I can't back up.  I was just curious.  How others handled these situations.    This person was angry he thought I called his comment spam so he had to attack...so I deleted.  It was rather comical really.  Some people take themselves too seriously.  The link the guy posted was to his website selling stuff.....so it was spam.  LOL 

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   I leave all comments. The few that are nasty, I find them funny. Sometimes I reply, sometimes  I don't. I think it shows what kind of dumb is posting. It's like a reference: showing true colours.

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      Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      tantrum, I totally agree.  You are so smart!

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks !
         Nice to meet you !

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      blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have left some too especially the really bizarre ones, you have to leave a little entertainment for your readers when they come.

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         Yes! they're funny. People wasting their time trying to make feel bad
         

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            blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thats it hey Tantrum.

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    blondepoetposted 14 years ago

    Read them, chuckle, delete. Sticks and stones will break my bones.....

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       Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Tantrum...we met the other day remember the Bill Clinton Play...I changed my avatar pic.  LOL
       Blondepoet...

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          tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          
          I didn't recognize you !!
          that's funny !!
          I post so much, I can't remember all !

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             Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             tantrum...that's okay that's what I figured...Price you got to pay to be popular 

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             blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Hi Tammy

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                Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Hi there!

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    Eh...I delete the ones that I think are rude and all...

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    Hey blonde !

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       blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hey Tantrum

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    Jane@CMposted 14 years ago

    What everyone else said, I just delete and giggle.
    
    Hey all!

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       blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hey Jane

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Jane.

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    AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years ago

    I'd have said you should keep your aggressiveness for the forums . And even then, try to be tongue-in-cheek where you can. If you are going to challenge someone on their own hub, you should try to be polite, show some respect, and probably end with a pleasant greeting.

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       Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I should say that I have never gotten a stinker from HubPage users at least not yet.  If you read my hubs you would laugh.

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    wyanjenposted 14 years ago

    You are not obligated to accept comments, or to justify your decision if you deny the comment.
    There is nothing wrong with denying and ignoring.
    It's your hub, you are in control of it - do what you think it right for you.
    
    Personally I have never denied a comment apart from bizarre spam that doesn't even include my keyword.
    
    Frankly, it is the negative comments that I like the best
    They strengthen my own argument in most cases.

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    awareposted 14 years ago

    how do i get me one of theses aggressive commentator's? i could use a few more hundred of those  type of readers. lol

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    NateSeanposted 14 years ago

    What "Aware" just said.
    
    As long as it's not outright insulting I have no problem with it as the more heated the debate the more people will read my hubs.

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       Eileen Hughesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       NATE SEAN  YOUR ARE ONE OF THE OFFEN DERS.  SORRY BUT I JUST READ ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS ON A HUB AND I WAS DISCUSTED.

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          NateSeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I'm not wasting my breath on you.

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    tobey100posted 14 years ago

    B.C., honey we ain't all bad.  Hit Texan up.  He'll set ya straight.

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       B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you..I know , A TEXAN is always kind and very good to me..I do not feel he would ever hurt me on these forums or in general life..
       
       He is a good man, yes indeed 

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    skyfireposted 14 years ago

    On HP i just got one negative comment, on my other blogs plenty of negative comments but that helped most of time. Trolls are part of traffic as well 

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    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    I allow all comments to be published on my Hubs even the ones that are not nice.....no good looking for free speech if we deny it even to our critiques

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    myownworldposted 14 years ago

    I write on very sensitive/controversial issues, so I have to deal with all kinds of feedback, esp. outside hubpages. It's the 'tone' of the comment that decides it for me.  If it's an objection to what I write about, if said in a civil enough manner, I publish the comment. And then personally email the sender and explain.
    
    But if someone is just being rude or insulting without contributing anything other than a personal attack, i draw the line. e.g. on of one my hubs on immigrants, I got a comment saying, 'go back to your country ..blah blah we hate you!'....I just deleted it and moved on.

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       Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I am so glad to know that a lot of you just delete.  I was hoping I wasn't alone.  Great advice everyone.  I haven't gotten any rude attacks from hubbers...the community here has been nothing but supportive.

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    rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

    I've never received a negative or confrontational comment.
    It depends what it would say and how it would affect the page.
    It's our page, we can do whatever we want with it, within TOS.
    
    I see no reason to attack someone who has left a message in comments that you leave open to anyone. and anyone who writes something that could be controversial should be ready for any and all kinds of comments. if they attack the author, like mow said, I would delete it also. no reason to go down to their level.
    
    I think sometimes hubbers forget that this site is open to the world.

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    Audreveaposted 14 years ago

    If you study journalism, they tell you if noone gets p!ssed off then your aren't doing your job!

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       cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       haha....good one

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          LOL Yeah, I guess it comes with the territory

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    NateSeanposted 14 years ago

    The thing with writing for money is that criticism is very much a part of the game. I can't think of a single major author that doesn't come under fire from the uber-religious nut jobs who try to ban their books right on down to critics who clearly only skimmed the book and therefore make irrelevant comments about the story.
    
    If you can't handle a few negative remarks on Hubpages from people you will likely never meet in person, then how will you ever handle the hordes of critics who come to meet you at your book signings, or your convention booths, or what have you?

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    waynetposted 14 years ago

    I have a big curly whirly turd on their face and delete their comments!

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    swift123418posted 14 years ago

    i think you should either report it delete it and not type back to them or just ignore it because they just want to make you feel bad for no reason.

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    Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years ago

    I can handle a critic.  I have "handled" six foot raving lunatics and seen someone take their last breath on this earth. 
    
    Critics do not attack the person they attack the story/article/poem what have you.
    
    There is a difference.

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       Tammy Lochmannposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I have said that I wouldn't care to come back to the forums for a while but someone has convinced me otherwise.  Forgive me for waffling.  I needed some time to think about things.  HubPages is a great place and wonderful opportunities have opened up for me here.  Thank you to all the people who have good hearts and good heads.

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