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  1. asmaiftikhar profile image73
    asmaiftikharposted 12 years ago

    why poets are consider the mad creatures of society?Agree or disagree .Explain

    1. abradford55 profile image60
      abradford55posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree because most people dont really know what were talking about as poets. We are instep and in tune with ourselves on a deeper level than most other people.

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      jami l. pereiraposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I totally disagree , there IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MIND ! hehe smile

    3. paradigmsearch profile image60
      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Not by me. I was poetry clueless when I joined hubpages. I have learned to like poetry during the time I've been here. I'm still clueless. But I like it. smile smile smile

    4. leroy64 profile image65
      leroy64posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      As a non poet, I would like to ask:

      If poets are not the mad creators of society, than who is?  The mad creators are fun to hang around with.

    5. Nixhe profile image59
      Nixheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree.. there's nothing wrong to be a poet maybe in others but it depends on the readers.. if can't understand them it's not our problem.

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      Majadezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mad is a good thing. Intelligence is sometimes misunderstood as madness. wink
      I have a book of short poems that says the following in the note at the beginning: "Poetry is the art of compression, of saying in a few well-chosen words, enhanced with rhythm and musicality of language, what might take more words to express - far less memorably - in prose."

      I thought that was beautiful. If people think it's madness to try and achieve it, that's okay. I'm happy in my madness.

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        dust2duskposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        "Poetry is the art of compression, of saying in a few well-chosen words, enhanced with rhythm and musicality of language, what might take more words to express - far less memorably - in prose."

        Love that note. May have to stash it somewhere. smile

    7. rebekahELLE profile image84
      rebekahELLEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps in past periods, some were considered 'mad' because it hasn't always been acceptable to express views so freely but contemporary poets are not considered to be any more 'mad' than any other creatures of society.  I think they are more able to express views in a poetic manner, but it hardly means they're 'mad creatures' - poets very often reflect the views of society, good, bad and ugly. We need them.

    8. Don Crowson profile image61
      Don Crowsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Poets are dreamers.  That does not make them mad. It means that they do see things differently from others, and have a better grasp of life.  They are capable of reality and dreaming in the same world.  They are creative and that makes some people mad at the poets.

  2. thooghun profile image94
    thooghunposted 12 years ago

    Au contraire my friend, I find poetry quite sobering personally. Poets are usually very observant and analytical, leading them to be very in touch with themselves and the world around them. While this may punctuate the fact that, yes, we may all be different, and no, we may not understand every introverted facet a poet expresses, it is a very sane and enlightening pastime. Those that call poetry mad, are in turn denying their own humanity.

    Alas, I ramble!

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      xpresshredposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, But they are not!!

    2. Rehana Stormme profile image72
      Rehana Stormmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I loved that ramble. Couldn't have said it better!

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      jami l. pereiraposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      A beautiful tribute to the poet ,THOOGHUN , very beautiful! , you couldnt have said that any better than you just did! smile

  3. Steele Fields profile image70
    Steele Fieldsposted 12 years ago

    Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.  The mad ones get published.

  4. schoolgirlforreal profile image80
    schoolgirlforrealposted 12 years ago

    speaking of poets, many of them I just don't understand, it's too complex and a riddle.

    I think I like the simple yet meaningful. do you agree?

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      jami l. pereiraposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No , i Do Not agree , alot of poetry is put in laymans terms and yet , simple and totally understandable. You have to read poetry not only with your tongue , but with your heart and mind as well , great poets like Edgar Allen , or Frost  you have to delve into what they are concieveing out of their joy or their prosperity , but still it is quite understandable.

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image80
        schoolgirlforrealposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        I never was good at understanding Emily Dickinson. I guess it takes practice. I for one can tell you truthfully that even writers on HP who write poetry, many I don't know what they are talking about. I'm not trying to say anything bad. I'm a poet myself.

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    jami l. pereiraposted 12 years ago

    As a self proclaimed "Poet" , I agree with Bradford , "WE" as "Poets"  , feel deeper, Love Harder , and are able to Verse wholely on complexities of life , we do not refrain from speaking truth and lore , as it should be told , whether in story form or in poetry , It is what it is , a story of the heart and mind , entertwined. Poetry , in its most subtle form is beauty and art all by itself.

  6. ThoughtSandwiches profile image75
    ThoughtSandwichesposted 12 years ago

    As...not so much a poet...but more a short-storyer...I would say you poet people pretty much got it going on.  Did that rhyme?  No?  Yeah...I'm not so much a poet I 'spose...

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    ahorsebackposted 12 years ago

    I am so contradicted I couldn't even answer this ......

  8. Ben Evans profile image67
    Ben Evansposted 12 years ago

    I spun a half baked yarn.
    Tons of wool yet uncooked
    turned wildly in my mind.

    A sense lurid
    yet calm
    caused no sensation.

    Yet the pen wrote
    and spoke only to a few.

    Yet I smiled
    because the paper shall
    record only what I want to say.

  9. 2uesday profile image67
    2uesdayposted 12 years ago

    Famous poets of the past sometimes led complex lives, therefore they did not conform to what 'society' considered 'normal'.

    It could be, that poets need to be either 'brave' or sometimes 'foolish' to share their thoughts in poetry. roll smile

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    ahorsebackposted 12 years ago

    Maybe it has more to do with contradictions in emotions . I for one could never begin to verbally articulate my emotions . Vocally short sighted I guess ,yet when I put things to pen ,perhaps they become a straighter line towards my own understanding. Maybe 'Poetry' is just a label for the readers of these lines.

  11. Cardisa profile image87
    Cardisaposted 12 years ago

    I am crazy and I know it and love it!

    When I feel normal I can't do anything. My creativity shines whenever I get this feeling where every thing and nothing makes sense. So many words flow from my mind and I can't seem to stop them. I get this crazed look (according to my best friend and fiance'). He also knows he can't touch or talk to me when I'm in that mood or place.

    Okay maybe it's not as bad as I explained it but almost! tongue

  12. Maralexa profile image82
    Maralexaposted 12 years ago

    Perhaps poets are considered mad because, in poetry, they can fully express their feelings about something that others consider taboo.  Poets can also criticize political issues and stay just outside the bounds of 'treason'.  Poets can also pass along information in glorious code.  Poets can release what would otherwise turn them mad themselves. 

    Poets, to me, seem neither foolish nor brave, but rather in tune with inner emotions and insights that must be expressed, must be expressed, must...

  13. HattieMattieMae profile image60
    HattieMattieMaeposted 12 years ago

    Have to agree with Maralexa! smile

  14. aware profile image65
    awareposted 12 years ago

    Doesn't it depend on the subject matter of the poetry?

  15. Laura du Toit profile image75
    Laura du Toitposted 12 years ago

    There are many writers and songwriters who express themselves in such a way that others could consider them "mad". Poets are no different. It is always dangerous to generalise no matter what the subject matter.

  16. aware profile image65
    awareposted 12 years ago

    reading many lady's poems today ive noticed . that girls write in a gender way alot . im not bashing .  but i see it

  17. aware profile image65
    awareposted 12 years ago

    no way do i see madness in poems

  18. Laura du Toit profile image75
    Laura du Toitposted 12 years ago

    No more than in any other form of expression.

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    dust2duskposted 12 years ago

    To a lot of people, it's easiest to understand what someone is saying when it's said outright, as simply as possible. But there's a whole world of difference between understanding the fact of what someone is saying and understanding the full meaning of what they're saying. Sometimes poetry is a way of bringing about genuine understanding of a thing in other people. If the words are strange, it's only because the usual ones don't work. Perhaps their meanings have been deadened by overuse, the old metaphors too tired to do their work. So people make new ones and mingle them in such a way as to invite remembrance.

    For example:

    "It's sad how nothing stays innocent forever."


    "Nature's first green is gold,
    Her hardest hue to hold.
    Her early leaf's a flower,
    But only so an hour.
    So leaf subsides to leaf,
    So Eden sank to grief,
    So dawn goes down to day,
    Nothing gold can stay."

    The second one brings about a more acute emotional understanding AND the way the words were arranged meant I could retrieve it from memory without referencing any text. The punctuation may not be quite right, but still...

    Of course, all these metaphors and carefully chosen words can confound those who aren't used to working with them. Not everyone is born a wordsmith and not everyone cares to become one. If I had to guess, I'd say that's where much of the stigma comes from. Many people find poets strange, because many people are not poets and therefore find it hard to understand them.

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    Poetic Foolposted 11 years ago

    I think the reputation you speak of is undeserved though I can understand it somewhat.  Poetry is often an written expression of something that often can't easily be put into words.  Trying to do so can sometimes produce results that, while meaningful to the poet, can also appear confusing, even unbalanced to the reader.  That is why so much of poetry is open to interpretation.  Each reader can glean something different from the same poem.  If poetry were concrete or black and white, I think it would lose it's appeal and beauty.

  21. poeticmentor profile image75
    poeticmentorposted 11 years ago

    Poets are the prophets of modern day society.  What others express in novels and movies, poets can narrow  it down into 2-3 sentences and you feel as though you have read a whole book or watch four films..They are awesome and not all people have this capability. Great topic. 1 I am poetry.

  22. SylviaSky profile image94
    SylviaSkyposted 11 years ago

    That's an image, the same way that John Wayne is an image of a Western hero , or Martha Stewart is an image of the perfect homemaker. People believe in images because it's much easier than comprehending a complex reality. The "mad poet" image in English poetry  begins with Lord Byron, who was clubfooted, a heavy drinker, a womanizer, and in debt up to his eyeballs. He was hounded out of England because he'd hinted around that he'd had sex with his sister, trying to create a scandal big enough to make his wife divorce him. That "romantic" image of the poet who does crazy things and wears all black is Byron's contribution to literature; the poems he actually wrote aren't very good. He died in his thirties a loser. The "mad poet" image is destructive when young poets or new poets think they have to become alcoholic or suicidal in order to write well. Fact is that the best poets are sober, sane, and lead average lives; what they have is a gift for and mastery of language. Anyone who has that gift and a true poet's marvelous mind wants to preserve it .

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      Majadezposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      This is the best post I've read here so far! Thanks for the input! smile


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