Voter Fraud in Florida -- It's Real!

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   Mighty Momposted 10 years ago

   Dead people. Showing up on voter rolls. Our worst fears about voter fraud have been realized.
   BUT.. you'll never guess who's responsible.
   http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012 … tions?lite

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      Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You can just taste the hypocrisy that was good for a laugh thanks MM.

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      Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Unless Obama gaffes his way to defeat, I think he has the election.

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   GA Andersonposted 10 years ago

   good point. but, per your linked article, I wonder how much credibility to give to the "one employee" being responsible for it.
   
   If it is, well, one "bad apple" out of 2000 (in Florida) isn't on the same scale as the Democrat-related acorn scandal.
   
   GA

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      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That did jump out, didn't it?
      One bad apple losing this lucrative RNC contract that's been paying this guy millions (many millions) for years?
      Something doesn't wash.
      
      Still, it's pretty hilarious that it happened in Florida, where Governor Rick Scott is still out there putting up hurdles to Dem voters in the name of quelching voter fraud that thusfar has not been proven to exist at all.
      Oh the irony.
      

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      Ralph Deedsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Television reports say it's nationwide.

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         JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Which networks? Sounds to me like a good lead up for squealing when you lose because we all know Democrats shouldn't ever lose an election. It just shouldn't be possible.

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            Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            How many sources do you need to see on this?
            Here's three. I could keep going.
            http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 … Snews.com)
            
            http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/ … RN-scandal
            
            
            http://www.denverpost.com/nationalpolit … fter-fraud

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               JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Still sounds like praying for swinging chad.

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      Xenonlitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Are you people still lying about Acorn? Well you lost. Acorn is alive and well.

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         GA Andersonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         You people? Oh I get it... you think I'm a Republican Romney supporter.
         
         Hopefully this is the worst of your mistakes.
         
         GA

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            Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Sort of related to the topic...
            I can no longer read or hear the phrase "You people" without thinking of Ann Romey.
            

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   habeeposted 10 years ago

   At least the RNC fired the firm instead of defending them like many Dems did with ACORN.

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      GA Andersonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      ssshhhh.... this is a "bash Repubs" thread
      
      ps. If it does turn out to be a legit scandal - would anyone really be surprised? Does anyone still believe either side of the aisle has a lock on "integrity" - ethically speaking, that is
      
      GA

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         habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Good point.

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      DMartelonlineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Unfortunately, the Acorn talking points have been lost since the Congressional Research Report which clearly laid out why the ACORN fantasy was fabricated.  http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf … 091222.pdf

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      American Viewposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Not to mention Acorn and its spun off name still get Federal Funding.

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         DMartelonlineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Umm no they don't -- Acorn was defunded completely resulting in them closing down. "Following the publication of the videos and withdrawal of funding, four different independent investigations by various state and city Attorneys General and the GAO released in 2009 and 2010 cleared ACORN, finding its employees had not engaged in criminal activities and that the organization had managed its federal funding appropriately, and calling the videos deceptively and selectively edited to present the workers in the worst possible light. Despite this, by March 2010, 15 of ACORN's 30 state chapters had already closed"

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            American Viewposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            http://washingtonexaminer.com/federal-t … GheWZhfB2A
            
            http://spectator.org/blog/2011/06/30/ob … t-to-acorn

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               DMartelonlineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Try this: http://www.hud.gov/local/shared/working … -acorn.pdf

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                  American Viewposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I guess you did not read the articles, If you did, I guess you missd this:
                  
                  "Obama's Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gave a $79,819 grant to the largest branch of the ACORN tree, ACORN Housing Corp. (AHC). AHC filed papers last year legally changing its name to Affordable Housing Centers of America (AHCOA). It's the same old organization with a brand new ACORN-free name."
                  
                  If you still do not think they are the same, read the next link provided. Scroll down to the amendment section and see the date 1/8/2010. See where the Louisiana State Corporate Charter records show a name change. Same company, new name still getting Federal funds.
                  
                  http://www.scribd.com/doc/97991849/Affo … y-of-State

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   Conservative Ladyposted 10 years ago

   So true!

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   Wayne Brownposted 10 years ago

   Absolutely not...all the more reason for voter ID.

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      habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly!

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   rebekahELLEposted 10 years ago

   Then there's Rick Scott's voter purge list being revived. http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/n … 12/1253538
   I think he has now been crowned with the most unpopular governor honors.  I don't know one person who voted for him.
   
   I just saw this article that will be in tomorrow's paper.  County election officials see problems with complying with Scott's last ditch effort.  Obama is currently ahead in the polls here in Florida.
   http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/n … 253711.ece

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      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Do you think Alix Sink is still interested in the job?

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         rebekahELLEposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         A poll was taken recently of possible Democrats, Sink being one of them, along with Charlie Crist and Anthony Shriver, part of the Kennedy clan.  I don't know the reliability of the poll, but I saw it in the Times a week or so ago.  One thing is certain, Scott will go.

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            Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Thank goodness. 
            At least, until the Koch Brothers regroup and restrategize to buy their next wave of public offices.

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               American Viewposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               MM,
               
               I wonder, do you hold George Soros in the same regaurd?

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                  innersmiffposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm sure she doesn't mind lobbyists and media monopolies with agendas she agrees with.

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                     Ralph Deedsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     The Macau gambling pimp has given at least ten times more than Soros.

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   Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years ago

   LIES! LIES! LIES!
   
   CLAY COUNTY (Florida) REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEER'S PHONE CALL TO SENIOR VOTERS - SHE LIES, LIES, LIES then says "pay attention to Fox News"
   
   Listen to her entire pitch (about 90 seconds). It was picked up on the first person’s answering machine.
   
   "Yall sound like yall are senior citizens, right? Yeah. You don't want Obama. You really don' want Obama. Because, he'll get rid of your Medicare. You might as well say goodbye to it."
   "I don't know if you've done any research on Obama or not, but he is a Muslim... if he had his way, we'd be a socialistic country."
   "Pay attention to Fox News."
   
   
   http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla … 5109853001

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      habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I've never heard Obama referred to as a Muslim by FOX spokespersons. In fact, I've heard O'Reilly state numerous times that Obama is NOT a Muslim and was born in the U.S. Here's one such instance:
      
      http://www.youtube.com/embed/QGssYOOrq9w
      
      On the other hand, some leftists have called Obama a Muslim, including Madonna. And, BTW, Bill Maher said that he doesn't believe the POTUS is a Christian, as Obama claims to be. I don't agree with Maher - I rarely do. lol

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         Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         To be fair Madonna was joking.

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            habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            That's good, but she didn't seem to be joking. Maher certainly wasn't joking.

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               Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               You're mistaken habbe, Maher likes to poke fun at the right by being ironically facetious when he parrots the terms and talking points of The Teaparty. After all he gave a million dollars to the Obama campaign fund, so I don't think he truly believes Obama's a muslim. Maher hates all religions and see's them as causing many of the problems in the world/

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                  JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Bill Maher is a raving a--hole. Bill Maher may be atheist but in particular he hates Christians and if he thinks it suits he wil back anyone who ticks them off. As long as he is the big big big big draw for HBO they will not be on my TV.

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                     JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Why should I contribute to the paycheck of a man who openly in public hates my guts?

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                     Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     He irritates a lot of people on the right but he also has a lot of personal right-wing friends so I don't think he's a "hater," JS.  I can see why he gets under your skin, he can be abrasive and smug.  But you're missing a lot of good commercial-free TV for just one A-hole.

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                        JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        I will ake the commercials. Fringe is my favorite and it rocked last night.

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                  habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I didn't say Maher said Obama was a Muslim - he said Obama wasn't a Christian. You're right, though: If Maher really believed Obama was a Christian, he probably wouldn't have donated all that cash.

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                     Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Well whatever his religion, he seems like a good family man and slow to anger—good Christian traits.

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         DMartelonlineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Really? Fox never called him Muslim?
         
         Special Report On Obama: "Islam Or Isn't He?" During a June 2009 segment, Special Report aired a quote by Obama foreign policy adviser Denis McDonough, in which he talked about how Obama "experienced Islam on three continents" and spent part of his childhood in Indonesia with a Muslim father. Special Report included this question above the quote: "Islam Or Isn't He?" [Fox News, Special Report with Bret Baier, 6/3/09]

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            American Viewposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            "Experienced Islam" and calling someone a Muslim are two different things.

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            FitnezzJimposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            My guess is lots of folk tend to think he is Muslim because of the comment 'if an ill wind blows, I'll side with the Muslims'.  that doesn't make him Muslim, but it sure does make folks wonder where his heart is at.
            And sorry, that doesn't really have anything to do with voter fraud.

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               Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               He was talking about not letting the same thing that was done to Japanese Americans during WW2 happen to Muslims here.

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               Ralph Deedsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Your gullibility is astounding.

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                  JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  He learned from you.

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                  FitnezzJimposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I'd really like to thank you for the informative response that is your norm, but unfortunately, you resorted to name-calling.  Can you provide reference to a more complete video?

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            habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            So, did FOX conclude that Obama was Muslim? I'd love to read the article. Do you have a link?

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   Mighty Momposted 10 years ago

   Well, it looks like those ACORNS have sprouted into an apple tree and there are "bad apples" in more than just Florida.
   
   http://myfox8.com/2012/09/29/girl-regis … ver-fraud/

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      Kathleen Cochranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You can't prove there aren't many cases of voter fraud by how many cases are prosecuted.  It's like estimating how many cases of speeding there are based on the number of traffic tickets written.
      When the largest number of people show up to vote like they will this November, if they don't have a picture I.D.  make one for them on the spot.  Then they'll have one for the future.  If SAMS Club can do this, why can't counties?  If you aren't who you say you are, well, you are from here on!

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         Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         There's voter fraud and then there's voter registration fraud.
         This is voter registration fraud.

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            Kathleen Cochranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry.  I jumped to conclusions - there's been so much on this subject lately.

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   rebekahELLEposted 10 years ago

   This article is from today's paper, Tampa Bay Times (used to be St. Pete Times).
   The vendor hired by the RNC to register voters in swing states has been canceled by the Repulican party of FL, Strategic Allied Consulting, which was formed in June by a man who also has a similar group in AZ.  He is a Republican consultant, former Christian Coalition operative.  He also was previously under investigation for voter fraud. 
   http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/n … er/1253836

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    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years ago

    I'm so tired of the extremist hyperbole and and out-of-context quotes that become false talking points.  Too many Americans have become misinformed, lazy, hasty and cynical fools.

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    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years ago

    Voter Registration Discrimination – Volunteer Only Registers Romney Voters
    
    
    A video that has been going viral over the past few days shows a young woman who claims to work for the El Paso County Clerk’s Office in Colorado and is caught saying that she only registers Romney supporters.
    
     
    
    http://youtu.be/Rdk55dLsFhc

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    Jo_Goldsmith11posted 10 years ago

    We all need to *Buddy Up* when we register and help those who need to register.
    Make sure you get some type of proof of who the people are making the alleged fraud.
    Include places where the registration process is all inclusive. Remember, there is
    "power in numbers", get clear facts of proof to validate!

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       pstraubie48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       You are so right. There really is power in numbers. Keeping track of and reporting fraud may make a difference.

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    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years ago

    https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/155627_512858948743486_655164467_n.jpg

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       JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I don't remember any voter registration compliant when you lost Florida in 2000.

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          Wizard Of Whimsyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          That's because you watch Fox News and suffer from convenient amnesia . . . or you're senile!

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             JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             I don't watch Fox and i know all about the Democratic loss in Florida. It was a loss. Plain and simple.

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                Jo_Goldsmith11posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                So is this the retaliation? I have heard by a GOP that the "Floridians bite is worse than the alligators in the swamp!" . Is this true?

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                   JSChamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   I have no idea. I just know it's amazing how evil and scheming and conniving the GOP is and don't even have the intelligence to hide it.
                   
                   Boy it would be a shame if they won and there would have to be a caterwauling bout voter registration. Like I said you wouldn't think the "good" people would be able to lose would you?
                   
                   Basically I don't believe a word of it coming from the press. All of them except maybe one or two are in the tank for the incumbent.

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    JayeWisdomposted 10 years ago

    It affects you that way, too?  Thought it was just me....

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       JayeWisdomposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Just to (partially) clarify--I don't even remember with whom I was agreeing in my last remark, but it wasn't  JSChams.  Ha!  Just saying....Sometimes a reply gets moved away from the original thread and appears to be linked to someone else.  I think I was replying to either Mighty Mom or Wizard of Whimsey.

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