Yeah, I get "the usual" take on things, you extra, extra not-charming bunch 'o guys. I've seen Clinton speak 4 times. He made quite a few speeches at the University of Iowa, when we could get him cheap especially after his presidency. I also know about his legendary womanizing, the boxers/briefs, accent, use of his hands while speaking, and all that crap.
But it was very, very studied. HE WAS over compensating for the fact he was, indeed, "a fat band boy," back in the day (his own quote). See his books (oh, yeah, Tex, given the way you write, I realize you don't like books and prefer talk radio).
His style as a politician (as is Hillary's) is also still old school, slightly dirty-tricked, and although I admire him very much, and when you see him speak, he is engaging and extremely intelligent, and I believe he has deep seated convictions at the core, I would not call him charming (I don't think many women actually would,
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Barack Obama, on the other hand is of a different breed/generation. That's why, incidentally, he was ultimately elected. IMHO (of course as I will meet 'violent,' haha, opposition here), his character is high, he is very well spoken; carefully spoken when need be, and the only way his measured,'cool,' and subtle responses and political style could ever engender division is in the heated minds of the far right/Glen Beck style 'politcos.' (I don't have another adequate name for them I can use.) He has indeed charmed the world...if not a few of our own crazy countrymen...in a way that needs to be at this point in history. In the true sense of the word. You Baby Boomers and retirees can keep your boxers and briefs.