Trump's documented lies chronicled by the New York Times. A report.

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  1. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 … ruths.html

    Documentation of Trump's lies written as a news article - not opinion. (I know. It's NYT - highly suspicious in spite of its multiple Pulitzers) Still. Your thoughts?

    By Angelo Fichera April 7, 2024

    Since the beginning of his political career, Donald J. Trump has misled, mischaracterized, dissembled, exaggerated and, at times, flatly lied. His flawed statements about the border, the economy, the coronavirus pandemic and the 2020 election have formed the bedrock of his 2024 campaign.

    Though his penchant for bending, and often breaking, the truth has been well documented, a close study of how he does so reveals a kind of technique to his dishonesty: a set of recurring rhetorical moves with which Mr. Trump fuels his popularity among his supporters.

    In the week starting with Mr. Trump’s victory speech in Iowa through his win in the New Hampshire primary — the contests that put him on the path to becoming his party’s nominee for the third consecutive time — The New York Times analyzed all of his public statements, including speeches, interviews and social media posts.

    His words focused heavily on attacking his political rivals, self-aggrandizing and stoking fear to make his case for 2024. In doing so, Mr. Trump often relied on repeated falsehoods and half-truths. He has yet to deviate from this approach in the general election.

    Here’s a look at how he does it.
    He grossly distorts his opponents’ records and proposals to make them sound unreasonable.

    While Joe Biden is pushing the largest

    tax hike in American history — you know he wants

    to quadruple your taxes.

    I will make the Trump tax cuts permanent.

    Trump Presidential Campaign via C-span

    Atkinson, N.H., rally, Jan. 16, 2024

    While Joe Biden is pushing the largest tax hike in American history – you know, he wants to quadruple your taxes.

    President Biden has not proposed quadrupling taxes. In fact, he has consistently vowed not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $400,000.

    Sean Hannity interview, Jan. 22, 2024

    I mean, what he’s doing with energy with an all-electric mandate, where you won’t be able to buy any other form of car in a very short period of time.

    Mr. Biden has not implemented an electric car mandate. The administration has announced rules that would limit tailpipe emissions from cars and light trucks, effectively requiring automakers to sell more electric vehicles and hybrids. It doesn’t ban gas cars.

    Truth Social, Jan. 16, 2024

    Nikki Haley, who hung in against Mr. Trump until Super Tuesday, did not raise the issue of the gas tax in South Carolina and rebuffed calls to do so as a stand-alone measure. She said in 2015 that she would support raising the gas tax — by 10 cents, over three years — only if lawmakers agreed to reduce the income tax rate to 5 percent, from 7 percent, and made changes to the state’s Department of Transportation.
    He exaggerates and twists the facts to make his record sound better than it is.

    And think of it, for four years we had no terror problem.

    I had the terror ban.

    I had bans on people coming in from areas where there’s going

    to be problem.

    You don’t have that anymore.

    Newsmax via Youtube

    Newsmax interview, Jan. 21, 2024

    And think of it, for four years we had no terror problem.

    There were in fact terrorist attacks in the United States during the Trump administration. In 2017, to name one, a native of Uzbekistan plowed a pickup truck down a bike path in Manhattan, killing eight people. The Justice Department said the driver, Sayfullo Saipov, carried out the terrorist attack in the name of ISIS.

    Atkinson, N.H., rally, Jan. 16, 2024

    We had the best economy. We had no inflation.

    The economy wasn’t the “best” under Mr. Trump. Even setting aside Covid, the average growth rate was lower under Mr. Trump than under former Presidents Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan. And inflation was low, but it wasn’t nonexistent.

    Hannity interview, Jan. 18, 2024

    We had gasoline at $1.87.

    The national average price of a gallon of gasoline dropped to that price during one week amid the Covid lockdown in 2020, when demand was extraordinarily low. But when Mr. Trump left office in January 2021, the national average was $2.42.
    He relies on both well-worn and fresh claims of election rigging to suggest he can lose only if his opponents cheat.

    Radical left Democrats

    rigged the presidential election of 2020,

    and we’re not going to allow them to rig the

    presidential election of 2024.

    We’re not going to allow it to happen.

    RSBN via Youtube

    Portsmouth, N.H., rally, Jan. 17, 2024

    The radical-left Democrats rigged the presidential election of 2020, and we’re not going to allow them to rig the presidential election of 2024.

    The 2020 election was not rigged. Mr. Trump has uttered hundreds of inaccurate claims to support the false claim that it was — mischaracterizing voting processes, citing baseless cases of supposed fraud and sharing conspiracy theories about voting machines.

    Atkinson, N.H., rally, Jan. 16, 2024

    As you know, Nikki Haley in particular is counting on the Democrats and liberals to infiltrate your Republican primary.

    Registered Democrats were not able to vote in the New Hampshire Republican primary. The contest was open to registered Republicans and independents. Any Democrats who switched parties or re-registered as independents to vote in the Republican primary — and some did — had to do so before an October 2023 deadline, months before the contest.

    Laconia, N.H., rally, Jan. 22, 2024

    The Republicans went up to vote and none of the machines were working. This was not good. But of course, they said, Well, this was just the way it goes. You know, thousands of people were not allowed to vote. But she, uh, she’s a great person, and she’s going to be a U.S. senator very soon. Kari Lake.

    The claim that “thousands” of voters were blocked from casting their ballots in Arizona’s 2022 gubernatorial election — at the expense of Mr. Trump’s preferred candidate, Ms. Lake — is false. There were some glitches in Maricopa County, but voters were largely able to cast their votes.
    He has turned his criminal cases into a rallying cry, baselessly asserting that he is being persecuted by his successor.

    “Your indictments,

    and for the people out there that say there’s another shoe

    that’s going to fall with all of this stuff,

    I know you say it’s all political.”

    “These are all Biden indictments.

    These aren’t indictments.

    These are Biden.

    This is a political opponent.

    He’s coming after a political opponent.”

    Fox News

    Fox interview with Bret Baier, Jan. 20, 2024

    These are all Biden indictments.

    Mr. Trump has not offered any evidence for his contention that Mr. Biden has orchestrated the criminal charges against him. Two of his four cases were brought at the state level. At the federal level, Mr. Trump’s criminal charges — in relation to his effort to remain in power after losing the 2020 election and, separately, over his retention of classified documents after leaving office — are handled by a special counsel and were put before grand juries.

    Atkinson, N.H., rally, Jan. 16, 2024

    I’ve been indicted more than Alphonse Capone.

    Mr. Trump has been indicted four times. Mr. Capone was indicted at least six times, according to A. Brad Schwartz, a historian and biographer of the infamous gangster.
    He makes unverifiable claims about what the world would have been like had he secured a second term.

    We wouldn’t have Russia attacking Ukraine.

    We wouldn’t have inflation, we wouldn’t have the attack

    on Israel.

    Kim Jong-un of north Korea wouldn’t be threatening us

    with the nuclear missiles again.

    RSBN via Youtube

    Concord, N.H., rally, Jan. 19, 2024

    We wouldn’t have Russia attacking Ukraine. We wouldn’t have inflation. We wouldn’t have the attack on Israel.

    There is no evidence that these events wouldn’t or couldn’t have occurred had the 2020 election outcome been different — and it’s impossible to prove. But experts say the context surrounding those events render his claims highly questionable.

    Atkinson, N.H., rally, Jan. 16, 2024

    China had a crash yesterday in their stock market. You know why? Because I won Iowa.

    There is no proof that China’s stock market woes were related to Mr. Trump’s victory in the Iowa caucuses.
    He describes the United States as a nation in ruins.

    We are a nation that screens its citizens viciously

    at all ports.

    But if you’re an illegal alien,

    you’re allowed to flow through our country

    with no check, whatsoever.

    RSBN via Youtube

    Laconia, N.H., rally, Jan. 22, 2024

    We are a nation that screens its citizens viciously at all ports. But if you are an illegal alien, you’re allowed to flow through our country with no check whatsoever.

    Undocumented immigrants caught crossing the border are processed, whether they are returned to other countries or later released into the country awaiting future proceedings.

    Manchester, N.H., rally, Jan. 20, 2024

    And now we are a nation that wants to make our revered and very powerful Army tanks – the best anywhere in the world – all electric.

    There are no plans to make Army tanks all electric.

    Laconia, N.H., rally, Jan. 22, 2024

    We are a third-world nation.

    This is, of course, false.

    Laconia, N.H., rally, Jan. 22, 2024

    We are no longer energy independent or energy dominant as we were just a few short years ago.

    Energy production — including oil and gas — has boomed under President Biden. Under both administrations, the United States has been a net exporter of petroleum and natural gas, but it still relies on imports.

    Laconia, N.H., rally, Jan. 22, 2024

    I don’t know what it is with Catholics, but the F.B.I. is going after Catholics.

    Mr. Trump’s claim is most likely based on an F.B.I. field office memo that warned of the potential for extremism among adherents of a “radical-traditionalist Catholic” ideology. But the memo was withdrawn and repeatedly condemned by the nation’s top law enforcement officials.

    Our Coverage of the 2024 Presidential Election

    News and Analysis

        Robert F. Kennedy Jr., expressing sympathy for Jan. 6 rioters, vowed to appoint a special counsel to investigate the Justice Department’s efforts to prosecute them. A vaccine skeptic running as an independent, he has emerged as a wild card in the 2024 presidential election. Donald Trump has privately floated the idea of choosing him as a running mate, but those close to the former president don’t consider it a serious possibility.

        Melania Trump, who has been mostly absent from public view while her husband campaigns for president, will appear at a fund-raiser at Mar-a-Lago, marking a return of sorts to the political arena.

        The centrist group No Labels has abandoned its plans to run a presidential ticket in the 2024 election, having failed to recruit a candidate. The group had suffered a string of rejections recently as prominent Republicans and Democrats declined to run on its ticket.

    Read More

        Trump’s falsehoods about mail voting have created a strategic disadvantage for Republicans, who must rely on Election Day turnout. The group Turning Point Action has a $100 million plan to change voters’ habits to encourage early voting.

        The focus of Trump’s hotel business is shifting from big cities to his golf resorts, after a deal to host tournaments for LIV Golf, the upstart league sponsored by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund, another example of the ties between the Saudis and the Trump family.

        Biden and Trump are the oldest people ever to seek the presidency, challenging norms about what the public should know about candidates’ health.

        Simon Rosenberg, a Democratic strategist and consultant, has spent the past two years telling Democrats they need to calm down. His Biden-will-win prediction is his next big test.

    1. Credence2 profile image77
      Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      So who is it now that is on "a roll"?

  2. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    This article is much easier to read in the newspaper than copied to this post. Sorry.

    1. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Yes. But you have to pay to read it. Some people do not have an account. Thanks!

  3. Readmikenow profile image94
    Readmikenowposted 2 months ago

    I suggest the authors of the article to an exact same article concerning the lies told by biden.

    That would be fair and balanced.

    The NYT is now nothing more than a mouthpiece for liberals.

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
      Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I'm sure the authors would do an exact same article about President Biden if the number of documented lies were anywhere in the vicinity of the same.

      FYI: Publications don't win Pulitzers for being the mouthpiece for anybody.

      1. Readmikenow profile image94
        Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        You should read this story from someone who tried to be objective.  The NYT is no longer an objective news organization.

        "When the New York Times lost its way

        "I oversaw, we were pursuing our role of presenting debate from all sides. We had published pieces arguing against the idea of relying on troops to stop the violence, and one urging abolition of the police altogether. But Cotton, an army veteran, was calling for the use of troops to protect lives and businesses from rioters...Less than three days later, on Saturday morning, Sulzberger called me at home and, with an icy anger that still puzzles and saddens me, demanded my resignation. I got mad, too, and said he’d have to fire me. I thought better of that later. I called him back and agreed to resign, flattering myself that I was being noble.

        https://www.economist.com/1843/2023/12/ … st-its-way

        1. Valeant profile image86
          Valeantposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Just like at CNN, when they tried to shift to covering both sides, their viewership bolted.  The Times tried to offer Cotton's solution, and in fairness, it was against those breaking laws and not those protesting peacefully, but it wasn't well-received by the readers.  So, someone had to be the fall guy for alienating their base costumers at a heightened time.

          1. MizBejabbers profile image87
            MizBejabbersposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            That's true. My husband was one of the first to bolt. Now I have to spend the day listening to the audio from old movies while I do my housework. He says there's too much chit chat from high pitched voices.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image90
      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting point. Nonetheless, a simple search on Google reveals evidence of the falsehoods spread by Biden. It doesn't take much effort to find these untruths, and some of them hold considerable significance. Some seem to stem from confusion or the invention of events that never took place, hinting at delusion. It's ironic that while numerous articles detail Biden's lies, big or small, and even "tall tales," it appears he may not have amassed as many documented lies as required for an article of condemnation by NYT.  (So we should look at this as a plus? )  Quite amusing, isn't it?  I mean, sorry one must take note of this form of mindset.

      1. Valeant profile image86
        Valeantposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        I doubt they are daily, like we get with Trump.  Just today, with his disaster of a video about abortion where he falsely claimed that everyone in the legal community wanted Roe repealed.  Not only is that a lie, it's not even in a realm of reality where it could be remotely true.

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
        Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        " a simple search on Google reveals evidence of the falsehoods spread by Biden. It doesn't take much effort to find these untruths, and some of them hold considerable significance."

        Then it should be easy to document them.

        1. MizBejabbers profile image87
          MizBejabbersposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Yep, funny, I haven't noticed any documentation.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image90
            Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            I refrained from providing links as it would have been redundant. In fact, I initiated a thread on this subject some time ago and have shared links previously. I'll provide some supporting information for my comment here, but I must admit, I'm surprised anyone asked. I am excellent research, and will hopefully satisfy anyone in doubt that Biden has a long reputation of lying.

  4. Sharlee01 profile image90
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    Joe Biden
    stated on February 8, 2024 in a speech:
    On classified documents in his possession, “none of it was high classified.”
    falsefalse
    By Maria Ramirez Uribe • February 9, 2024

    Joe Biden
    stated on January 25, 2024 in Public appearance:
    "There are a thousand billionaires now and you know what their average tax rate is? 8%."
    falsefalse
    By Sophia Voight • January 26, 2024

    Joe Biden
    stated on August 31, 2023 in a speech:
    “Under the Obama-Biden administration, we invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the state of Florida replacing wooden power poles with steel poles and we buried these electric lines."
    falsefalse
    By Amy Sherman • October 6, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 11, 2023 in a 9/11 memorial speech in Alaska:
    “Ground zero in New York — I remember standing there the next day.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • September 12, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on August 9, 2023 in an interview with the Weather Channel:
    “I’ve already” declared a national climate emergency
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • August 17, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on June 14, 2023 in a speech:
    "We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean."
    falsefalse
    By Sofia Bliss-Carrascosa • June 22, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on March 9, 2023 in a speech about his budget proposal:
    “More cops are killed responding to domestic violence calls than anything else.”
    falsefalse
    By Amy Sherman • March 15, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on February 15, 2023 in a speech in Lanham, Maryland:
    The “average tax” for billionaires is “about 3%,” which is “a lower tax than a schoolteacher or a firefighter."
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • February 20, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on February 7, 2023 in the State of the Union:
    “In the past two years, democracies have become stronger, not weaker. Autocracies have grown weaker, not stronger.”
    falsefalse
    By Samantha Putterman • February 9, 2023

    Joe Biden
    stated on December 16, 2022 in a town hall for U.S. veterans:
    After Joe Biden became vice president, at the behest of his father, he gave his uncle, Frank H. Biden, a Purple Heart for serving in the U.S. military during World War II.
    falsefalse
    By Yacob Reyes • December 20, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on December 16, 2022 in a speech:
    Says he has been to “Afghanistan, Iraq and those areas” twice as president.
    falsefalse
    By Tom Kertscher • December 20, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 27, 2022 in a speech in Syracuse, N.Y.:
    The price of gas is “down from over $5 when I took office.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • October 28, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 23, 2022 in a forum with Now This:
    Student loan forgiveness is “passed. I got it passed by a vote or two. And it’s in effect.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • October 25, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on July 6, 2022 in a speech in Cleveland:
    The “average federal income tax” paid by the richest Americans is “8%. … If you’re a cop, a teacher, a firefighter, union worker, you probably pay two to three times that.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • July 13, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on June 2, 2022 in a speech:
    Gun manufacturers are “the only industry in the country” that have immunity from lawsuits.
    falsefalse
    By Samantha Putterman • June 8, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on May 12, 2022 in a tweet:
    “When President Biden took office … there was no vaccine available.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • May 16, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on April 11, 2022 in a press conference:
    “You couldn’t buy a cannon when, in fact, the Second Amendment passed."
    falsefalse
    By Yacob Reyes • April 12, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on March 1, 2022 in in his State of the Union address:
    “I’ve been in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan over 40 times.”
    falsefalse
    By Samantha Putterman • March 3, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on January 11, 2022 in a speech in Atlanta:
    As a youth, “I got arrested” protesting for civil rights.
    falsefalse
    By Jeff Cercone • January 13, 2022

    Joe Biden
    stated on December 12, 2021 in an interview with Rita Braver of CBS:
    “I’ve been against that war in Afghanistan from the very beginning.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • December 15, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on November 30, 2021 in a conversation at a technical college in Minnesota:
    “I used to drive a tractor trailer … I only did it for part of a summer.”
    falsefalse
    By Jon Greenberg • December 3, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on December 1, 2021 in remarks at the White House:
    "The number of small businesses is up 30% compared to before the pandemic."
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • December 2, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on November 3, 2021 in a news conference.:
    “No governor in Virginia has ever won when...he or she is the same party as the sitting president.”
    falsefalse
    By Warren Fiske • November 12, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on August 20, 2021 in remarks:
    Al-Qaida is “gone” from Afghanistan.
    falsefalse
    By Amy Sherman • August 23, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on July 22, 2021 in a CNN town hall:
    "The cost of an automobile, it's kind of back to what it was before the pandemic."
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • July 23, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on June 23, 2021 in a White House announcement:
    "The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own.”
    falsefalse
    By Jon Greenberg • June 25, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on May 3, 2021 in remarks on the American Families Plan:
    For vaccine rates among Americans 65 and older, “there’s virtually no difference between white, Black, Hispanic, Asian American.”
    falsefalse
    By Victoria Knight • May 11, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on March 25, 2021 in press conference:
    “We’re sending back the vast majority of the families that are coming.”
    falsefalse
    By Miriam Valverde • March 25, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on February 16, 2021 in remarks at a CNN town hall:
    "If we kept (the minimum wage) indexed to inflation, people would be making $20 an hour right now.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • February 18, 2021

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 25, 2020 in a "60 Minutes" interview:
    “I can send every qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion.”
    falsefalse
    By Noah Y. Kim • October 30, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 15, 2020 in a town hall:
    “The boilermakers union has endorsed me because I sat down with them and went into great detail with leadership [about] exactly what I would do.”
    falsefalse
    By Jessica Calefati • October 21, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 15, 2020 in an ABC town hall:
    "They eliminated the funding for community policing."
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • October 16, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 10, 2020 in a comment to reporters:
    Senate Republicans' move to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court in an election year is "not constitutional."
    falsefalse
    By Bill McCarthy • October 13, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on October 5, 2020 in an NBC town hall in Miami:
    During the Obama/Biden administration “18,000 people got clemency.”
    falsefalse
    By Amy Sherman • October 6, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 20, 2020 in a speech:
    “The Trump campaign asked that I release the list (of potential Supreme Court nominees) only after (Ruth Bader Ginsburg) passed away.”
    falsefalse
    By Bill McCarthy • September 22, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 20, 2020 in a speech in Philadelphia:
    “There's no court session between now and the end of this election.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • September 21, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 17, 2020 in a CNN town hall:
    "If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive. All the people. I'm not making this up. Just look at the data."
    falsefalse
    By Bill McCarthy • September 18, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 9, 2020 in a speech in Warren, Mich.:
    “Military COVID infected: 118,984. Military COVID deaths: 6,114.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • September 10, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 2, 2020 in a speech in Wilmington, Del.:
    Says he was the first person to call for invoking the Defense Production Act.
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • September 4, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on July 22, 2020 in a SEIU roundtable discussion:
    “McDonald’s (makes) you all sign noncompete contracts that you cannot go across town to try to get a job at Burger King.”
    falsefalse
    By Jon Greenberg • July 28, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on July 22, 2020 in a town hall:
    No U.S. presidents elected before Donald Trump were racist.
    falsefalse
    By Sophie Austin • July 27, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on May 21, 2020 in a video:
    "You weren't allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual."
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • June 29, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on May 22, 2020 in an interview on The Breakfast Club radio show:
    “The NAACP has endorsed me every time I've run.”
    falsefalse
    By Amy Sherman • June 1, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on March 15, 2020 in a debate:
    Because the Federal Reserve recently cut interest rates to near 0%, “the Fed will be of little consequence now. They’ve already used what leverage they have.”
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • March 18, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on March 3, 2020 in a tweeted video:
    Video shows President Donald Trump saying COVID-19 is Democrats’ “new hoax.”
    falsefalse
    By Daniel Funke • March 15, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on February 7, 2020 in comments during the New Hampshire presidential primary debate:
    Sanders’ “Medicare for All” plan "would cost more than the entire federal budget that we spend now."
    falsefalse
    By Shefali Luthra • February 13, 2020

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 12, 2019 in a Democratic debate:
    Says the Obama administration "didn't lock people up in cages."
    falsefalse
    By Miriam Valverde • September 13, 2019

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 3, 2019 in an NPR interview:
    Referring to the Iraq War, "immediately, the moment it started, I came out against the war at that moment."
    falsefalse
    By Miriam Valverde • September 5, 2019

    Joe Biden
    stated on August 7, 2019 in a campaign stop in Iowa:
    Says Donald Trump "asserted that immigrants would quote, ‘carve you up with a knife’." 
    falsefalse
    By Jon Greenberg • August 9, 2019

    Joe Biden
    stated on May 1, 2019 in an interview:
    "I was always labeled as one of the most liberal members of the United States Congress."
    falsefalse
    By John Kruzel • May 6, 2019

    Joe Biden
    stated on July 27, 2016 in an appearance on MSNBC:
    Says Donald Trump "is going to go out and carpet bomb" the Middle East.
    falsefalse
    By C. Eugene Emery Jr. • August 2, 2016

    Joe Biden
    stated on April 29, 2016 in a speech at the Vatican:
    "In the United States alone we lose more than 3,000 people a day to cancer."
    falsefalse
    By Louis Jacobson • May 9, 2016

    Joe Biden
    stated on May 8, 2012 in a speech:
    "When we took office, let me remind you, there was virtually no international pressure on Iran."
    falsefalse
    By Eric Stirgus • May 14, 2012

    Joe Biden
    stated on April 1, 2012 in a “Face the Nation” interview:
    "General Motors is the largest corporation in the world again."
    falsefalse
    By Becky Bowers • April 9, 2012

    Joe Biden
    stated on August 30, 2011 in remarks at a campaign fundraiser:
    Says U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget proposal "eliminates Medicare" in 10 years.
    falsefalse
    By Dave Umhoefer • September 7, 2011

    Joe Biden
    stated on January 17, 2010 in a fundraiser in Florida:
    "As long as I have served . . . This is the first time every single solitary decision has required 60 senators."
    falsefalse
    By Catharine Richert • January 22, 2010

    Joe Biden
    stated on December 31, 2007 in a campaign event in Ames, Iowa:
    "John doesn't have a record in the Senate. John's only passed four bills. They're all about post offices."
    falsefalse
    By Adriel Bettelheim • January 7, 2008

    Joe Biden
    stated on December 31, 2007 in a campaign event in Ames, Iowa:
    "Barack Obama hasn't passed any (bills)."
    falsefalse
    By Adriel Bettelheim • January 7, 2008

    Joe Biden
    stated on November 2, 2007 in statement on Web site:
    "In the 1990s, the Biden Crime Bill added 100,000 cops to America's streets. As a result, murder and violent crime rates went down eight years in a row."
    falsefalse
    By Wes Allison • November 2, 2007

    Joe Biden
    stated on September 26, 2007 in Hanover, N.H.:
    "There are 300,000 babies born deformed every year in this country because of women who are alcoholics while they're carrying those children to term."
    falsefalse
    By Angie Drobnic Holan • September 27, 2007

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/l … =joe-biden

    "Joe Biden Lied At Least 16 Times About His Family’s Business Schemes"

    Joe Biden has repeatedly lied about his family’s business dealings. Joe Biden claims he never spoke to his family about their business dealings; his family never received $1 million in payments through a third party; his son never made money in China; his son’s dealings were ethical; and his son did nothing wrong. Below are 16 times that Joe Biden lied about his family’s dealings over the years.

    Joe Biden lied about not talking to his son about his business dealings.

    August 28, 2019

    Then-Presidential Candidate Joe Biden: “First of all, I have never discussed with my son, or my brother, or anyone else, anything having to do with their businesses, period. What I will do is the same thing we did in our administration. There will be an absolute wall between the personal and private, and the government. There wasn’t any hint of scandal at all when we were there. And I will impose the same kind of strict, strict rules. That is why I have never talked with my son or my brother, or anyone else in the distant family about their business interests, period.”

    September 21, 2019

    Reporter: “Have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?”

    Joe Biden: “I’ve never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.”

    October 4, 2019

    Reporter: “Excuse me. There was a photo of you golfing with your son Hunter and his business partner Devon Archer. Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son’s overseas business dealings?”

    Joe Biden: “Yes, I stand by that statement.”

    October 9, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I don’t discuss business with my son. I didn’t know that was the case when in fact I found out after the fact. And I don’t discuss things with my son or my family because I don’t want to have any knowledge of any, I don’t want to be accused of well you talk with your son, you talk with your whomever.”

    October 15, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I never discussed a single thing with my son about anything having do with Ukraine. No one has indicated I have. We’ve always kept everything separate.”

    October 16, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I never discussed with my son anything having to do with what was going on in Ukraine. That’s a fact.”

    October 27, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I’ve never discussed my business or their business, my sons and daughters. And I’ve never discussed them because they know where I have to do my job and that’s it.”

    October 29, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I’ve never discussed my son’s business with him.”

    April 5, 2022

    Reporter: “The President has said that he never spoke to his son about his overseas business dealings. Is that still the case?”

    Jen Psaki: “Yes.”

    June 26, 2023

    Reporter: “Did you lie about never speaking to Hunter about his business dealings?”

    President Biden: “No.”

    August 9, 2023

    Reporter: “There’s this testimony now where one of your son’s former business associates is claiming that you were on speakerphone a lot with them talking business. Is that what?”

    President Biden: “I never talked business with anybody, and I knew you’d have a lousy question.”

    FACT: Evidence reveals then-Vice President Biden spoke, dined, and had coffee with Hunter Biden’s foreign business associates. The FBI’s recorded interview with Rob Walker, a Biden family associate, also reveals Joe Biden attended a meeting about CEFC, a Chinese entity. Additionally, Hunter Biden alleged his father was in the room when he demanded payment from a CEFC associate.

    Then-Vice President Biden dined with corrupt oligarchs who funneled millions to Hunter Biden.

    claims he never spoke to his family about their business dealings; his family never received $1 million in payments through a third party; his son never made money in China; his son’s dealings were ethical; and his son did nothing wrong. Below are 16 times that Joe Biden lied about his family’s dealings over the years.

    Joe Biden lied about not talking to his son about his business dealings.

    August 28, 2019

    Then-Presidential Candidate Joe Biden: “First of all, I have never discussed with my son, or my brother, or anyone else, anything having to do with their businesses, period. What I will do is the same thing we did in our administration. There will be an absolute wall between the personal and private, and the government. There wasn’t any hint of scandal at all when we were there. And I will impose the same kind of strict, strict rules. That is why I have never talked with my son or my brother, or anyone else in the distant family about their business interests, period.”

    September 21, 2019

    Reporter: “Have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?”

    Joe Biden: “I’ve never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.”

    October 4, 2019

    Reporter: “Excuse me. There was a photo of you golfing with your son Hunter and his business partner Devon Archer. Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son’s overseas business dealings?”

    Joe Biden: “Yes, I stand by that statement.”

    October 9, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I don’t discuss business with my son. I didn’t know that was the case when in fact I found out after the fact. And I don’t discuss things with my son or my family because I don’t want to have any knowledge of any, I don’t want to be accused of well you talk with your son, you talk with your whomever.”

    October 15, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I never discussed a single thing with my son about anything having do with Ukraine. No one has indicated I have. We’ve always kept everything separate.”

    October 16, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I never discussed with my son anything having to do with what was going on in Ukraine. That’s a fact.”

    October 27, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I’ve never discussed my business or their business, my sons and daughters. And I’ve never discussed them because they know where I have to do my job and that’s it.”


    October 29, 2019

    Joe Biden: “I’ve never discussed my son’s business with him.”


    April 5, 2022

    Reporter: “The President has said that he never spoke to his son about his overseas business dealings. Is that still the case?”

    Jen Psaki: “Yes.”


    June 26, 2023

    Reporter: “Did you lie about never speaking to Hunter about his business dealings?”

    President Biden: “No.”

    August 9, 2023

    Reporter: “There’s this testimony now where one of your son’s former business associates is claiming that you were on speakerphone a lot with them talking business. Is that what?”

    President Biden: “I never talked business with anybody, and I knew you’d have a lousy question.”

    FACT: Evidence reveals then-Vice President Biden spoke, dined, and had coffee with Hunter Biden’s foreign business associates. The FBI’s recorded interview with Rob Walker, a Biden family associate, also reveals Joe Biden attended a meeting about CEFC, a Chinese entity. Additionally, Hunter Biden alleged his father was in the room when he demanded payment from a CEFC associate.

    Then-Vice President Biden dined with corrupt oligarchs who funneled millions to Hunter Biden.

    Then-Vice President Biden spoke on speakerphone with Hunter Biden’s business associates over 20 times.

    Democrats would have Americans believe that these phone calls then-Vice President Biden took with business associates were simply to discuss the weather.

    Joe Biden attended a CEFC meeting.

    Hunter Biden claimed Joe Biden was in the room when he demanded payment from a CEFC associate.

    Joe Biden lied about his family receiving over $1 million in payments from China through an associate.

    March 20, 2023

    Reporter: “Any reaction to House GOP’s memo about your family’s dealings […] revealing that Hunter Biden’s business associates sent over $1 million to three of your family members?”

    President Biden: “That’s not true.”

    FACT: The House Oversight Committee detailed in its first bank records memorandum, released on March 16, 2023, that three Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown Biden – and their companies received over $1.3 million in payments from a Chinese company through a third party.

    Joe Biden lied about Hunter Biden making money from China.

    October 22, 2020

    Joe Biden: “My son has not made money, in terms of thing about, what are you talking about? China. The only guy who made money in China is [President Trump].”

    FACT: The House Oversight Committee detailed in its second bank records memorandum how Hunter Biden and other members of the Biden family received millions from Chinese nationals and companies with significant ties to Chinese intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party.

    Joe Biden lied about his son’s business dealings being ethical.

    October 22, 2020

    Moderator: “There have been questions about the work your son has done in China and for a Ukrainian energy company when you were vice president. In retrospect, was anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical?”

    Joe Biden: “Nothing was unethical.”

    FACT: During a transcribed interview with Devon Archer – Hunter Biden’s former business partner – Archer described how Joe Biden was “the brand” and was used to send “signals” of power, access, and influence to enrich the Biden family.

    Devon Archer confirmed Joe Biden was “the brand” and he brought the most value to “the brand.”

    Devon Archer admitted the value of adding Hunter Biden to the Burisma board was it “sent the right signals” and “a lot of it’s about opening doors, you know, globally in D.C.”

    Archer stated Burisma would have gone out of business if not for “the brand.”


    Burisma executives requested Hunter Biden to get “help from D.C.” to address “government pressure” and were aware Hunter had a “very powerful name.”

    During a media interview, Devon Archer responded to claims that there was no corruption, and that Joe Biden had no role whatsoever in Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings or knowledge of it. “That’s categorically false.”

    Joe Biden lied about his son doing nothing wrong.

    October 27, 2019

    Joe Biden: “And it turns out, [Hunter] didn’t do a single thing wrong as everybody has investigated.”

    December 8, 2019

    Reporter: “So you think that everything that happened was kosher?”

    Joe Biden: “You know that there’s not one single bit of evidence. Not one little, tiny bit to suggest that anything done was wrong.”

    FACT: During the failed change of plea hearing, Hunter Biden was asked by the Judge about some of the facts surrounding his criminal conduct. IRS whistleblowers also reveal how Hunter Biden potentially committed other felonies.
    PLEASE read on very lengthy list , and view videos to substantiate Bidens mistruths live from his own mouth  --     https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-bi … s-schemes/

  5. abwilliams profile image67
    abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

    Well done Sharlee, I have nothing to add, at this time.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Still working on this... I can't believe they went here... I was being very diplomatic with my comments here. I was attempting not to play the  "well Biden said this game" --- Go figure.   As I said when one supplies something that makes some uncomfortable, we will hear crickets or insults. What will all this cause?

  6. Sharlee01 profile image90
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    State Of Union March 2024 mistruths

    "Arriving roughly 20 minutes later than announced, a frenetic President Joe Biden delivered his fourth, and potentially last State of the Union address on Thursday night. His voluminous, staccato, and aggressive remarks previewed a 2024 presidential campaign centered on expanding abortion nationwide, restricting the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and casting his political foes as an incipient, existential threat to democracy and the United States itself. In just over an hour, Biden spoke a number of lies, false assertions, and dubious statements worth reviewing for the record.

    1. The Phantom Ban on IVF
    “The Alabama Supreme Court shut down IVF treatments across the state, unleashed by a Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade.”

    Biden has invented a phantom ban on in vitro fertilization, or IVF, because the Alabama Supreme Court did not ban IVF. The case in question revolved around a grieving family who had conceived and stored unborn children at a fertility clinic, but the clinic’s poor security allowed someone to wander in and drop the babies on the floor, killing them. The court’s 8-1 ruling decided the parents of children negligently destroyed in IVF clinics could file a civil case, suing for damages under the state’s 1872 Wrongful Death of a Minor Act.

    The destruction or abandonment of embryos is the norm, rather than the exception, of the practice. Typical IVF procedures regularly implant multiple embryos into the mother, or surrogate, then selectively abort weaker and less viable babies. Others are conceived and left in storage indefinitely. As Mary Szoch, director of the Center for Human Dignity at Family Research Council, has noted, “93% of the embryos created through IVF never result in a live birth.” The Alabama Supreme Court decision said nothing about whether that should be legal.

    2. ‘Restoring’ Roe v. Wade, or Expanding Abortion?
    “If you, the American people, send me a Congress that supports the right to choose, I promise you, I will restore Roe v. Wade as the law of the land again.”

    Since the Dobbs decision upended four decades of judicial activism, Joe Biden has repeatedly stated Congress needs to “codify” Roe v. Wade into law. Yet the extreme bill his administration has endorsed, the so-called “Women’s Health Protection” Act, goes far beyond the provisions of Roe v. Wade. The sweeping, top-down national legislation would impose abortion on the nation and strike down more than 1,300 state pro-life laws, erasing nearly every protection, including laws

    prohibiting sex-selective abortions;
    barring many abortions after viability;
    preventing abortions on babies 20 weeks or older, who are capable of feeling pain;
    disallowing abortions undertaken without parental consent or notification;
    prohibiting telemedicine abortion drug prescriptions, which involve no in-person medical examination;
    banning unlicensed individuals from carrying out abortions;
    allowing pregnant mothers to receive scientifically accurate information about their babies’ development, or to see an ultrasound or hear the child’s fetal heartbeat; and
    allowing pro-life medical professionals the right to refuse to participate in an abortion.
    Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said the address should serve as a wake-up call for those who support the right to life. “Pro-life America: You just heard with your own ears what is at stake in this election — the unborn. Biden is committed to eradicating every state pro-life law in America.” Other evangelical Christian leaders agreed. “The Democrats were saying tonight … that they want to put the right to kill children at the top of their agenda. The reason for that is the wickedness of their hearts,” Pastor Robert Jeffress told Fox News Night’s Trace Gallagher. “When it comes to protecting children, there’s no difference between Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Hamas.”

    “They’re all barbarians,” Jeffress said.

    3. Kate Cox’s Life Was ‘at Risk’ without an Abortion?
    “Kate Cox, a wife and mother from Dallas. She’d become pregnant again, and had a fetus with a fatal condition. Her doctor told Kate that her own life and her ability to have children in the future were at risk if she didn’t act.” (Emphasis added.)

    Doctors did not tell Kate Cox her pregnancy threatened her life; indeed, that was the entire crux of the case. Texas’ heartbeat law permits a woman to have an abortion if she faces the “risk of death” or “serious risk of [the] substantial impairment of a major bodily function.” Cox sued for an injunction against the law because, tragically, her child had a life-threatening condition, and she faced real — but not life-threatening — complications from the pregnancy. The Texas Supreme Court ruled last December that Cox’s physician, Damla Karsan, had actually “asked a court to pre-authorize the abortion yet she could not, or at least did not, attest to the court that Ms. Cox’s condition poses the risks the [law’s] exception requires.” Kate Cox had an abortion in another state.

    4. Abortion as a ‘Treatment’ for Fetal Anomalies and Rape Victims
    “Kate [Cox] and her husband had to leave the state [of Texas] to get what she needed. … There are state laws banning the freedom to choose, criminalizing doctors, forcing survivors of rape and incest to leave their states to get the treatment they need.”

    Abortion is not a treatment for a pregnancy caused by rape or incest, nor for children with negative fetal diagnoses, because a baby is not a disease and death is not a cure. Many bioethicists argue that abortion is never necessary for medical reasons. “As a board-certified OB-GYN practicing for over 30 years in Texas, delivering over 5,000 babies, I have never had to intentionally kill my unborn patient in order to protect his mother,” said Dr. Ingrid Skop of the Charlotte Lozier Institute in a statement emailed to The Washington Stand. Neither premature delivery for a mother in a high-risk pregnancy, nor the most common forms of treatment for an ectopic pregnancy (salpingostomy and salpingectomy), are classified as abortions, because they are undertaken with the intention to save the mother’s life, while abortion intends to kill the child. Often, the unborn child in the fallopian tubes has already died before the procedure takes place. The abortion industry has also capitalized on the fact that the treatment for a miscarriage, Dilation and Curettage (D&C), shares the same name as an abortion procedure. But a D&C carried out after a miscarriage does not, and cannot, take the life of the unborn child; abortion stops a beating heart.

    Furthermore, children conceived in rape are rarely acknowledged as human. “When my rapist got me pregnant, almost everyone I knew immediately said ‘abortion’ like there was no other option,” revealed one rape victim. “I kept her and I’m raising her, and she is the BEST thing to ever happen to me.” (Emphasis hers.) The same holds for children (rightly, or often wrongly) diagnosed with having a terminal condition. Beverly Jacobson told TWS she rejoices that she did not abort her daughter, Verity, who was accurately diagnosed with Trisomy 18 in the womb. “Despite pushback from our medical staff, we chose life. Verity just turned seven years old. She brings us so much delight, and we love her fiercely,” Jacobson told TWS.

    5. President Donald Trump Supports a ‘National Abortion Ban?’
    “Many of you in this chamber and my predecessor are promising to pass a national ban on reproductive freedom. My God, what freedoms [sic] would you take away?”

    Although President Donald Trump is said to have privately mused that he likes the idea of protecting unborn life after 15 weeks, he has yet to announce any national pro-life legislation that he would enact in a second term. Only 6% of all abortions take place after 15 weeks — so this “national abortion ban” would allow at least 94% of all abortions. And after that late date, Trump favors exceptions for rape and incest. Nearly three out of four (72%) Americans — including 60% of Democrats, 70% of registered independents, and 75% of women — believe abortion should not be allowed after 15 weeks, according to a Harvard/Harris poll.

    6. Universal Pre-K Gives Children ‘a Good Start’?
    “I’d, like I’d suspect all of you, want to give a child, every child, a good start by providing access to preschool for 3- and 4-years-old.”

    The proposal to establish universal daycare, dubbed “Universal Pre-K,” is an old one raised by Barack Obama in many of his State of the Union addresses. Joe Biden included a universal pre-K program for children beginning at age three in his $6.9 trillion proposed 2024 budget last March.

    There are at least two problems with the proposal. First, preschool does not provide children with as much of a “good start” as the natural love and affection of their parents. As British researcher Penelope Leach noted, the social and developmental outcomes for children raised by anyone other than their mother “is definitely less good.” Over decades, studies have repeatedly confirmed that children raised in daycare facilities have higher levels of aggression, hyperactivity, stress, cortisol levels, and behavioral issues, while experiencing lower levels of emotional and physical health and reduced impulse control. These results hold up regardless of quality of care the daycare facility provides. Even the much-touted federal Head Start program “had little to no positive effects for children who were granted access,” noted a report from Obama-Biden administration’s HHS.

    Moreover, polls show most women do not want their children raised by strangers in daycare facilities, federally funded or otherwise. The Gallup poll organization reports that it has “consistently found that the majority of working mothers would prefer to stay at home and take care of their house and family.” Eight out of 10 Americans agree the ideal situation is for the mother not to work, or to work part-time, according to the Pew Research Center.

    Critics point out that turning infants and toddlers over to government-run facilities at ever-younger ages opens up children to more effective indoctrination. Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said universal pre-K could “make sure every child, before they are four years old, is indoctrinated on abortion, LGBTQ ideology, and climate change.”

    7. ‘Lincoln Riley’ and Illegal Immigration
    Joe Biden’s prepared remarks did not include the words “Laken Riley,” the name of the 22-year-old Georgia college student murdered by an illegal immigrant. However, Rep. Mike Collins (R-Ga.) invited her parents to the State of the Union, and, in the middle of his address, fellow Georgian Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene shouted that Biden should say her name in the middle of his address.

    “Lincoln Riley, an innocent young woman who was killed. By an illegal,” replied Biden in an impromptu back-and-forth with Greene. “But how many thousands of people are being killed by legals?”

    Biden obliquely cited highly-contested research alleging that illegal immigrants have a lower violent crime rate than legal citizens. The hair-splitting academic argument is irrelevant to the issue: If the young woman’s Venezuelan murderer had not been in the country illegally, Riley, like countless others, would still be alive.

    “Guarding the border is an important issue, and it’s a biblical issue,” said Pastor Robert Jeffress after the address.

    8. Are His Opponents ‘Banning Books’?
    “Stop denying another core value of America: our diversity across American life. Banning books — it’s wrong!”

    Joe Biden has repeatedly accused concerned parents of “banning books.” But the facts tell another tale. Moms and dads nationally have asked school districts to remove inappropriate, often pornographic, texts from school libraries — and asked community libraries to move them to the adult section. Children are not legally allowed to access pornography, or attend an R-rated movie unaccompanied by an adult. This is a far cry from the 1930s-era Germany Biden’s rhetoric conjures up.

    9. The ‘Equality Act’ Deserves Support?
    “Pass the Equality Act, and my message to transgender Americans: I have your back.”

    The so-called Equality Act would add sexual preference and transgender identity to national civil rights legislation, elevating mutable lifestyle choices to the same level as race, sex, and religion. It would remove the rights of Christian (and traditional Jewish) business people to do business and effectively “finish off religious freedom in America,” said Perkins.

    10. Biden Has Created a Safer Nation with Less Crime?
    “America is safer today than when I took office. … Last year, the murder rate saw the sharpest decrease in history. Violent crime fell to one of its lowest levels in more than 50 years.”

    “Is America safer?” asked Tony Perkins. “Only in the Left’s make-believe world. Violent crimes against young people have actually doubled. Motor vehicle thefts are up 105% since the pandemic — as even members of Congress have fallen prey to carjackings. The murder rate is up as much as 30% in places like the nation’s capital and about 18% overall.”

    11. Democracy Is under Attack?
    “Not since President Lincoln and the Civil War have freedom and democracy been under assault at home as they are today. What makes our moment rare is that freedom and democracy are under attack both at home and overseas at the very same time.”

    Democracy faced a far greater internal threat during the Cold War. Communist spies and traitors such as Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, and the Rosenbergs burrowed into sensitive government, largely under the administration of Democratic presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman. And they carried out the orders of, or gave vital information, to totalitarian Marxists who genuinely sought global domination and the eradication of faith and freedom. Yet Biden mentioned “January 6” three times by name — three times as often as he mentioned murder victim Laken Riley. And he referred to “my predecessor” 13 times.

    Biden also made unsupported accusations of “voter suppression” and “election subversion.” He likely has in mind election integrity measures such as voter ID, which he has castigated as “Jim Crow 2.0” and “Jim Eagle.” Yet in states which enacted these measures, such as Georgia, voting increased substantially. Voting in Georgia’s 2022 midterm election rose by around 200% over 2018 levels.

    The speech’s labored emphasis on the issue of “democracy,” Tony Perkins said, portends a 2024 presidential election comprised of a never-ending loop of “January 6, abortion, attack on democracy ….”

    12. Did Biden Cut the National Deficit by $1 Trillion?
    “We’ve already cut the federal deficit by over a trillion dollars.”

    Biden has repeatedly used this misleading statistic. The national deficit, or annual budget shortfall, hit its highest level in modern times during the COVID-19 lockdowns. With businesses closed by government edict, tax revenues predictably plunged. However, the Biden administration has maintained and increased COVID-era spending levels. Biden’s spending has piled up a massive $34 trillion national debt — a rough increase of 24% in three years.

    13. Do Poor Children Enter School Hearing a Million Fewer Words than Average?
    “Children coming from broken homes where there’s no books, not read to, not spoken to very often, start school — kindergarten or first grade — hearing, having heard a million fewer words spoken.”

    The actual figure in the study Biden is citing is not one million words; it is 30 million words. However, as NPR explained, that “number comes from just one study, begun almost 40 years ago, with just 42 families,” and it cannot be replicated.

    14. Progressivism Will Save ‘the Soul of Our Nation’?
    “Again and again I’ve seen the contest between competing forces in the battle for the soul of our nation, between those who want to pull America back to the past and those who want to move America into the future.”

    Biden is correct that there is a battle for the soul of America, and its people, but he gets the answer wrong. Salvation comes through our Lord Jesus Christ, Who created, fashioned, and sanctified the human soul through His life, death, and resurrection — not from government programs enacted by any president or political party.

    These are but an overview, not a comprehensive list, of Biden’s fibs, misstatements, and outright malarkey in the 2024 State of the Union address. “Just think,” said Perkins, “President Biden told these ‘tales’ while looking at the portrait of Moses over the doors of the House chamber.”

    https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/ … on-address
    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/factc … the-union/

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    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    NO Joe Ya Just Did Not ...

    AP   https://apnews.com/article/cd977f7ff301 … 4ba07c5495

    WASHINGTON (AP) _ Sen. Joe Biden claimed during a campaign appearance in New Hampshire last spring that he finished in the top half of his law school class, although records indicate he finished near the bottom.

    In a videotape aired by the public service cable network C-SPAN several months ago, the Delaware Democrat was asked at a campaign stop in Claremont, N.H., on April 3 about what law school he attended and how well he did.

    On the videotape, a clearly angered Biden told the questioner: ''I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do.

    ''The first year in law school I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class and then decided I wanted to stay and went back to law school and in fact ended up in the top half of my class,’' he went on.

    But last week Biden released his law school records showing he had graduated 76th in a law school class of 85. The law school transcript also showed he made little progress in class standing through the three-year course, ranking 80 out of 100 in the first semester of the first year, and 79th out of 87 the second semester of his second year.

    Biden has been deviled about questions in the last 10 days about his law school career and his use of others’ words in his speeches without credit. He revealed last week that he committed plagiarism in law school and took a course over to make up for the error.

    In the videotape, Biden went on to say, ''I went to (Syracuse) law school on a full academic scholarship.’'

    The records he released last week indicated he had a $800 scholarship from the school out of a total tuition of $1,620 as well as $1,000 in room and board from his work as a residence adviser in a dorm and student loans.

    ''I won the international moot-court competition. ... I was the outstanding student in the poitical science department (as an undergraduate). ... I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school ... And I’d be delighted to sit back and compare my IQ to yours if you’d like, Frank,’' Biden told the questioner.

    The tape was aired April 10 and 12 as part of the network’s ''Road to the White House’’ series, C-SPAN spokeswoman Nan Gibson said.

    Newsweek magazine said Biden does not mention the moot court competition on his resume, and did not win the political science award at University of Delaware, where he received a single B.A. in political science and history.

    Biden told the New York Times he was ''frustrated’’ and ''angry as hell’’ about the Newsweek report.

    ''It’s so easy to make things look like there’s something sinister about them,’' he said. ''I guess every single word I’ve said is going to be dissected now.’'

    Of his class ranking in law school, he said, ''I exaggerate when I’m angry, but I’ve never gone around telling people things that aren’t true about me.’'

    Asked if his candidacy would survive the accusations, Biden said, ''I think if I can get by the next week, I can pull out of this. If I can just get my story across.’'

    Meanwhile, the Legal Times of Washington reported today that Biden’s plagiarism at Syracuse University law school leaked out after the former law school dean discussed it at a dinner early this month.

    The weekly publication said that Craig Christensen, dean of the law school until Aug. 15, talked about the incident in Biden’s freshman year in 1965 during a Sept. 4 dinner with three other law school officials.

    Christesen denies he mentioned anything specific in Biden’s record.

    ''I did say that as in the case of almost anyone’s file, you could make a problem of something in the file, but I did not specifically label the problem,’' he told the Legal Times.

    One of those at the dinner discussed the matter with a reporter, who then began asking questions in Washington about the record of the Delaware Democrat. Those inquiries triggered rumors about Biden’s school record as other newspapers were reporting that Biden had lifted sections of his speeches from other politicians without credit.

    At last Thursday’s news conference, Biden admitted he had committed plagiarism during the first-year course. But he said it was inadvertent and that he took the course over.

    Biden said opponents were spreading the stories about him to embarrass him during the confirmation hearings of Robert Bork to the U.S. Supreme Court. Biden chairs those Judiciary Committee hearings.

    Another participant at the dinner, who did not want to be identified, said Christensen did mention plagiarism and did not ''even present it as confidential.’' The newspaper did not identify where the dinner took place, except to say it occurred after the meeting of the Law School Admissions Council, an advisory group of law school admissions officials.

    Christensen did admit he said he could understand why ''Sen. Biden didn’t want his record released.’'

    In documents released at the Biden news conference, there is a letter from Christensen to Biden dated June 11, 1987, saying he had taken ''extra security precautions with respect to your file,’' placing it in the dean’s safe with the notation it was not be opened except by the dean.

    Christensen was an associate from 1964-1966 at the Chicago law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, where Bork worked from 1955-1962.

    ''I want to make it abundantly clear that based on anything I have ever seen in that file or heard about Sen. Biden, that I do not believe there is any flaw in his character,’' Christensen added.

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    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    " with one Gold Star mom accusing the president of callously likening her son’s death to that of his late son Beau.

    Cheryl Rex, whose son Marine Lance Cpl. Dylan Merola died in the Aug. 26, 2021, bombing at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, said she became enraged at Biden’s mawkish sentiment, knowing full well that Beau Biden died of brain cancer on US soil.

    “His words to me were, ‘My wife, Jill, and I know how you feel. We lost our son as well and brought him home in a flag-draped coffin,'” Rex recounted during a forum convened in Escondido, Calif. by local Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.). “My heart started beating faster and I started shaking, knowing that their son died from cancer and they were able to be by his side.”

    Biden has a history of claiming his son “died in Iraq.”
    https://nypost.com/2023/08/07/biden-tol … -star-mom/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/01/us/p … -beau.html

  9. Sharlee01 profile image90
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    I mean who lies about the death of one's spouse?  Joe


    CBS EVENING NEWS
    Driver In Biden Crash Wanted Name Cleared
    evening-news
    By Bob Orr

    March 24, 2009 / 6:27 PM EDT / CBS

    Just a week before Christmas, 1972, the wife of newly-elected Sen. Joe Biden and the couple's baby daughter were killed - and their two sons badly injured - when the Biden family car was broadsided by a truck at an intersection in Delaware.

    The truck driver, Curtis Dunn, was never charged in the crash. But, his daughter Pam Hamill says, he too, suffered, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr.

    "He grieved over that," Hamill said. "He was haunted and was tormented by that for years."

    Dunn died in 1999, but since then his family has endured widespread rumors and reports that he had been drinking just before the collision.

    At least twice, Biden himself has made public references to alcohol being involved in the crash. In 2007 Biden said the truck driver "allegedly ... drank his lunch." And multiple news outlets, including CBS News, have reported that Dunn was drunk."  Hamill disputes that - saying her dad had not been drinking.

    "The truth is, it was a tragic accident," she said. "No alcohol was involved."

    The police reports have been lost, but Delaware Judge Jerome Herlihy, who investigated the crash, supports Hamill's claim.

    He told CBS News, "There was no indication that the truck driver had been drinking."

    And last fall, a spokesman for Biden said that the senator "fully accepts the Dunn family's word that these rumors were false."

    Now Pam Hamill simply wants the record to be cleared, and her father's reputation restored

    "He was a good, hard-working man and wonderful father," she said.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/driver-in- … e-cleared/

  10. Sharlee01 profile image90
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    No Joe you were not arrested...

    Biden's ridiculous claim he was arrested trying to see  Mandella --
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … -evidence/

    "While talking in November to technical college students standing near a truck, Biden claimed, “I used to drive a tractor-trailer,” though only for “part of a summer.” This was similar to something he had said at a Mack Trucks facility in July, when he claimed, “I used to drive an 18-wheeler, man,” adding, “I got to.” There is no evidence Biden ever drove a big truck; the"

    Biden repeatedly told a story about a supposed conversation during his vice presidency with an old friend, an Amtrak train conductor, that could not possibly have happened because the man was dead at the time. He repeatedly boasted that he had traveled “17,000 miles” with Chinese President Xi Jinping, though that number is not even close to correct.

    "Biden distracted from his voting rights message with the baseless claim last week, which he had made before, about having been arrested during a civil rights protest; in some of the previous versions of the story, he had merely claimed a police officer had taken him home from a protest. (There is evidence Biden participated in some civil rights activities in his youth but no record of any arrest.)"

    "At a September event in honor of the High Holy Days, Biden told Jewish leaders that he remembered “spending time at” and “going to” Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue, the site of an antisemitic massacre in 2018; he had spoken by phone to the synagogue’s rabbi in 2019 but never went. At a Hanukkah event in December, Biden claimed that late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir had invited him to meet with her during the Six-Day War of 1967 (he actually met with her weeks before the Yom Kippur War six years later) and, more significantly, that she had wanted him to be “the liaison between she and the Egyptians about the Suez, and so on and so forth.”

    There is zero evidence Meir ever wanted to use a 30-year-old rookie US senator as a “liaison” with a major adversary."

    False claims about Afghanistan
    Biden was bedeviled over the summer by his chaotic withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. And he made a variety of false claims as he tried to defend his handling of the situation – further undermining his authority on an issue on which he was already struggling to persuade the public.

    In August, the President said, “What interest do we have in Afghanistan at this point, with al Qaeda gone?” Al Qaeda had been degraded in Afghanistan, but it wasn’t “gone” – as a Pentagon spokesman acknowledged on camera that same day. In an interview that week, Biden defended the US withdrawal in part by claiming that the concept of nation-building in Afghanistan “never made any sense to me” – though, in fact, he had explicitly advocated nation-building in the early years of the war, both in Afghanistan and more broadly.

    In July, when Biden was under pressure to quickly relocate Afghans who had assisted US troops, he said “the law doesn’t allow” Afghan translators to come to the US to await the processing of their visa applications. But experts in immigration law immediately said this wasn’t true, given the administration’s authority to grant “parole,” and, indeed, the Biden administration ended up using parole later in the summer to do what Biden had claimed wasn’t permitted.

    In December, Biden said in another interview that “I’ve been against that war in Afghanistan from the very beginning.” While he eventually grew opposed to the war, he was not against it from the start – as fact-checkers pointed out when he had made similar remarks during his presidential campaign.

    False claims about the economy
    The state of the economy was a key rhetorical battleground between Biden and his critics: He argued it was thriving; they argued it was failing. And although both sides often cited valid data points, the President also made some false claims to bolster his case.

    Biden occasionally overstated progress and understated problems. Asked at a CNN town hall in July about inflation in automobile prices, he claimed that the cost of a car was “kind of back to what it was before the pandemic”; the cost had actually increased substantially since late 2019 and early 2020. In an economic speech in November, he greatly exaggerated the extent of the decline in the unemployment rate during his tenure.

    To try to sell his economic policies, Biden sometimes made inaccurate statements about what experts had said about them. In May alone, he falsely claimed that there was a consensus among economists about how many jobs his American Jobs Plan would create, significantly overstated how many jobs the firm Moody’s Analytics in particular predicted the plan would create and falsely claimed that the last five leaders of the Federal Reserve had said the plan would produce economic growth – wrongly describing both the contents and the authorship of an article that was actually written by five former Internal Revenue Service chiefs.

    Later in the year, Biden misleadingly framed another Moody’s jobs estimate. And he repeatedly omitted the key phrase “longer-term” from an assertion by Nobel-winning economists that his $1.9 trillion Build Back Better agenda would “ease longer-term inflationary pressures” – leaving Americans to believe that these economists might have said his agenda would reduce the inflation hurting their bank accounts today.

    False claims about the Covid-19 pandemic
    Many of Biden’s first-year speeches were devoted to the Covid-19 pandemic. Biden was almost incomparably more accurate on this subject than Trump was, tending to factually convey the severity of the situation rather than match his predecessor’s fantastical rhetoric about how bad numbers were not actually bad numbers and how the virus would just disappear.

    But Biden made a smattering of false claims on this topic, too.

    At the CNN town hall in July, Biden made the inaccurate categorical promise that “you’re not going to get Covid” if you’re vaccinated. It was clear even before the emergence of the Omicron variant that vaccinated people were still getting infected with the virus, though the vaccines made them much less likely to get seriously ill; vaccinated people on the President’s own staff had been infected. Biden also went too far at the town hall when he categorically pledged that “if you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the ICU unit and you’re not going to die”; these outcomes happen, too, though they are much less common among vaccinated people.

    Biden sometimes exaggerated on the subject of his administration’s work to get Americans vaccinated – misleadingly playing down the Trump administration’s own vaccine purchases and, in May, overstating how the US vaccination rate compared with those of the rest of the world. And he made various errors in discussing pandemic-related facts and figures.

    In February, Biden claimed that “suicides are up” amid the pandemic; experts said at the time that the claim was premature, and it turned out to be wrong (though suicide rates did increase for some specific demographic groups). In October, the President wrongly told Americans that there were “over 800,000” vaccination sites in the country; he had added an extra 0 to the correct figure he usually used, 80,000.

    False claims in unscripted settings
    When Biden stuck to prepared speeches vetted by his staff, he tended to be factual (though certainly wasn’t perfect). When he ad-libbed or participated in unscripted exchanges with journalists and citizens, he was more likely to sprinkle in inaccuracies – making false or misleading claims about everything from his handling of the situation at the southern border to Virginia political history to gun laws to the size of a tax break for people who own racehorses.

    During Biden’s first 100 days in the Oval Office, he was repeatedly incorrect or misleading in describing the actions of the Trump administration.

    And he made one particularly notable misleading claim during that early period. At a heated moment of the national debate over Georgia Republicans’ new elections law, Biden did a television interview in which he criticized the law in part by misstating what it says.
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics … index.html

    WAPO -  Biden Gets A Whopping Four Pinocchio’s For False Social Security Claims

    "Even the Washington Post is calling out former Vice President Joe Biden for false assertions, giving him a whopping Four Pinocchio’s for misrepresenting Republicans’ support for Social Security.

    “To make a long story short, Democrats ginned up a letter from the chief actuary to describe a plan that does not currently exist,” the Post reported. “That adds up to Four Pinocchios.”

    These false claims were repeated by a recent ad by the former Vice President claiming that President Trump would have Social Security “permanently depleted by the middle of calendar year 2023.”

    Here are the facts:

    Social Security is safe. Period. As the Washington Post said: Mr. Biden’s ad “refers to ‘Trump’s planned cuts.’ But there are no planned cuts. The ad cites ‘Trump’s plan,’ but the actuary’s letter says it is referring only to a hypothetical plan sketched out by Democrats.” In other words, Mr. Biden is trying to scare seniors into believing benefits are set to be cut when there is no plan to do so.
    Republicans are working to set the record straight. House Ways and Means Republican Leader Kevin Brady (R-Texas) and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) recently pressed Chief Actuary of Social Security Goss over Democrats’ use of his office for political purposes. Brady and Grassley asked for a public clarification to recently published analysis that has led to partisan misinformation to be spread by Democrats.
    Republicans are eager to strengthen Social Security without shrinking paychecks. Today, the leading Democrat plan for Social Security would result in an over $21 trillion tax hike primarily on workers and small businesses. This would leave all workers, especially recent college graduates, with a smaller paycheck for life for just a few more years of solvency for Social Security. Americans deserve better. Republican Leaders on the Ways and Means Committee have laid out principles for how to ensure Social Security is here for current and future generations without hurting workers’ wallets."
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/biden-ge … ty-claims/

    1. peoplepower73 profile image90
      peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Sharlee:

      In four years, Trump has lied and misled over 13,000 documented times.

      Did Biden Try to steal an election from a duly elected president and obstruct the peaceful transfer of power? I know the jury is still out and until he is found guilty by a jury, you will not accept that he is guilty.

      However, everything that Biden and Trump both did does not compare to what Trump tried to do. As far as I know this form of manipulating our democratic process has never been done in the history of this nation.

      And yet, Trump and company are trying every tactic money can buy them to delay, distract, deceive, and destroy, as he walks as a free man.  He is now interfering with congress in order to save his a**.

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
        Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Credence: As she says herself, she is very good at research. However, her extensive list is a false equivalent to the charges you so succinctly list.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image90
          Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

          You posted your comment to PeoplePower. To reply to an intended user just go to the message you are replying to and click on reply under their comment.  At the very bottom of a comment  box, you will see ---- reply permalink report edit delete

          Just select reply...

        2. Credence2 profile image77
          Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Surely, Kathleen, I would like to take credit, but all the credit goes to Peoplepower and he is spot on......

      2. Sharlee01 profile image90
        Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

        "In four years, Trump has lied and misled over 13,000 documented times."

        I have no dispute regarding that statement. I will say I have seen his words twisted at times by the media on some occasions.

        Yes,  the jury is still out on all of the Jan 6th accusations.

        I'm still uncertain whether Trump attempted to manipulate our democratic process. I believe the Smith trial will offer clear evidence if this allegation holds true. Without solid proof, accusing Trump of such subversion seems premature. Like many others, including yourself, I prefer to await concrete evidence before passing judgment. It's essential to uphold the principle of innocent until proven guilty. I am not one to condemn just because I could with today's "hang 'em high" mindset. Very disappointed to witness the return of such a careless mindset. Proud to say, I don't ascribe to that form of thinking.

        Regarding stalling courts -  It well appears Trump is using all the rights given by our laws. Hopefully, the SC will rule on whether Trump had immunity as president, this will certainly be helpful.

  11. Valeant profile image86
    Valeantposted 2 months ago

    Not sure jury verdicts are really mind-changers to the current MAGA crowd.  Just look at the E. Jean Carroll jury verdict for exhibit A.  Trump has brainwashed his followers to believe that the judicial, just as the electoral, outcome is 'rigged' against him.  He's running a propaganda campaign to convince his followers to live in his alternate reality of victimhood, when the actual reality is that he's an election loser and criminal.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image90
      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      You're generalizing an entire group. Personally, I back Trump for president, but I've acknowledged the Carroll trial verdict. On this platform, I've consistently advocated for listening to women who come forward with sexual abuse/rape claims. Isn't it time to recognize that individuals have their own reasons for supporting Trump? After all, millions of people from diverse backgrounds endorse him. Your comment might suggest to some that it's your side that's influenced by bias, or as you put it "brainwashed".

      1. Valeant profile image86
        Valeantposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        I am, because the MAGA crowd either accepts their candidate is a rapist or is in denial about it.  Either way, they've convinced themselves that it's not a disqualifier.  That's a fact.  The brainwashing is that Trump has convinced his following that someone who is a rapist is the victim.  It's just really sad that his base believes it.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image90
          Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

          I've expressed my perspective and thoughts on this matter extensively. Both men, Trump and Biden, have faced accusations of sexual assault/rape from women. After thorough research and consideration, I am personally convinced that both men sexually abused these women. I refuse to selectively believe one woman over the other. Therefore, on my list of considerations, both Trump and Biden have been marked in the "cons" column for being accused and committing sexual assault. Caroll was able to bring her case to court due to a law being passed many decades after the rape. Reide was unable to bring her case due to it occurring in DC where her time well ran out...  Both committed rape in my view. I don't have the mindset to pick and choose between any women who make such claims.

          Additionally, Biden has another mark for inappropriate behavior with children, due to my witnessing live footage of his problem with sniffing women's hair, and complaints from at least 7 women that he made them uncomfortable invading. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 … vior-women
          https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-bid … ign-2019-6

          Both candidates have marks for dishonesty, and frequently lying. This is my truth, and I feel it's becoming redundant to reiterate it.

          1. Valeant profile image86
            Valeantposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            It's interesting to note that you have a notable double standard, and let me explain why I believe that.

            For the DC and Georgia cases on Trump trying to steal the election, you say we all should wait for a jury to decide on guilt or innocence.  When it comes to assaulting women, however, your own research seems to be the standard and not a finding by a jury.  Research that also omits the accusations that were made against Trump, an accusation of an actual assault mind you, by an underage girl as you readily list Biden's notable examples with underage girls.

            So, which is it?  Are accusations the standard or jury findings?  You seem to be going back and forth on it to suit your own ends.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image90
              Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

              I believe rape victims face a unique struggle. They find themselves in a situation no woman ever desires. Only a woman can truly comprehend this ordeal. Unfortunately, they are often presumed guilty until proven innocent, while the accused enjoy the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Tara Reide's case exemplifies this imbalance. She continues to be viewed as guilty, unable to obtain justice within the legal system's constraints. I believe her...

              Regarding women claiming rape, this certainly is very different as I said one woman did get her day in court. I certainly waited to see what the jury came back with.  I never disparaged this woman. Regarding Reide she did not get her day in court. However, I chose to believe her fully. I feel her bravery was exceptional. My personal feeling is that she was truthful.  I believe the victims over the perpetrators in the case of a rape accusation.

                It would appear you do not believe the accounts I offered of Biden making women uncomfortable. As well it seems you may be willing to believe Caroll, but not Reide.

                Lucy Flores alleged in March 2019 that Biden grasped her shoulders from behind and kissed the back of her head without her consent during a campaign event in 2014.

              Ally Coll, a former Democratic staffer, told The Washington Post in April 2019 that when she met Biden in 2008, he complimented her smile, squeezed her shoulders, and held her "for a beat too long."

              Sofie Karasek, a progressive organizer, was photographed holding hands and touching foreheads with Biden at the 2016 Academy Awards. Karasek said she felt Biden violated her personal space in that interaction.

              Amy Stokes Lappos alleges Biden pulled her face close to him during a 2009 political fundraiser.

              Caitlyn Caruso said that after she shared her story of sexual assault at a University of Nevada event in 2016, Biden hugged her "just a little bit too long" and put his hand on her thigh.

              DJ Hill alleges Biden rested his hand on her shoulder and moved it down her back at a 2012 fundraising event in Minneapolis. Hill said the encounter made her "very uncomfortable."

              Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former White House intern, said when she met Biden in 2013, he "put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead." Kohnert-Yount also said Biden called her a "pretty girl."

              In June 2019, Biden told the brothers of a 13-year-old girl to "keep the guys away" from her at a campaign event.

              At a May 2019 campaign event, Biden told a 10-year-old girl, "I bet you're as bright as you are good-looking."
              https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-bid … looking-10
              https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.html

              Should these claims be ignored? Would they be if one changed the name to Trump?

              1. Valeant profile image86
                Valeantposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                Your presumptions, as is typical of the MAGA crowd, are incorrect.  I have zero doubts that Biden has encroached on the personal space of women over the years.  But this attempt to shift the goalposts to equate this conduct with an actual sexual assault is the typical conduct we see from the right in their justifications of supporting an actual, and admitted, rapist.

                Nor did your post address the issue I asked about, the obvious double standard.  Why the standard of finding a man guilty in an assault case, despite plenty of cases where the woman was found to be fabricating her claim, while wanting to wait to have a jury finding before concluding guilt in a case where the perpetrator attempted to steal an American election?  Why don't you find it equitable to be able to judge the evidence, and conclude guilt or innocence, in either legal matter? 

                I think it's a show of bias among the MAGA crowd, if I'm being honest.  Everyone knows Trump sexually assaults women.  He's admitted as much on the Access Hollywood tape.  In order to sleep at night for voting for someone so heinous, they have to find whatever way they can to equate Joe Biden to that level of monstrosity.  Problem is, they only have accusations and that comparison fails as a false equivalency every time. 

                And I doubt any MAGA wants to use similar deductive reasoning to judge Trump in those election interference cases because they know what the likely conclusion will be.  And then they will have to admit they actually support that kind of authoritarianism and do not support the Constitution.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image90
                  Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  "Your presumptions, as is typical of the MAGA crowd, are incorrect.  I have zero doubts that Biden has encroached on the personal space of women over the years"  Val   --   This is commendable

                  "But this attempt to shift the goalposts to equate this conduct with an actual sexual assault is the typical conduct we see from the right in their justifications of supporting an actual, and admitted, rapist." Val

                  My comment  --  It would appear you do not believe the accounts I offered of Biden making women uncomfortable. As well it seems you may be willing to believe Caroll, but not Reide.  (Note word uncomfortable )
                  In my view, Biden raped Reide, and I believe her.

                  I addressed your concern obvious double standard.

                  I believe rape victims face a unique struggle. They find themselves in a situation no woman ever desires. Only a woman can truly comprehend this ordeal. Unfortunately, they are often presumed guilty until proven innocent, while the accused enjoy the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

                  Tara Reide's case exemplifies this imbalance. She continues to be viewed as guilty, unable to obtain justice within the legal system's constraints. I believe her... Period

                  "I think it's a show of bias among the MAGA crowd, if I'm being honest.  Everyone knows Trump sexually assaults women.  He's admitted as much on the Access Hollywood tape." Val

                  Once more, I'll strive for clarity: I suspect both candidates have allegations of sexual misconduct against them. It's perplexing why my multifaceted considerations in selecting a president seem overlooked. With only two options, Biden falls short on my list of advantages and disadvantages. That's the gist. I've outlined my rationale for favoring Trump over Biden, and there's no need to further denigrate Biden without cause. I've certainly weighed back and forth on the actions of both Trump and Biden—it's becoming tiresome. My God, a president needs to be able to do the job, I can't overlook the shape the country is in, and I am opposed adamantly to the agenda as well as the ideologies of Biden, as well as his administration.

                  I support an America First agenda,  It could not be further from what Biden has offered in the past 3 years. 

                  It's unclear if Smith has any substantive evidence to support his claims. My inclination is that he possesses nothing beyond what the January 6th committee has presented, which largely consists of hearsay and opinion-driven narratives. As for authoritarianism, I perceive the current president as advocating for authoritarian tendencies.

                  1. Willowarbor profile image61
                    Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                    "Tara Reide's case exemplifies this imbalance. She continues to be viewed as guilty"

                    Does she?  I'm not certain of that but I do know that every person accused of a crime is presumed to be innocent unless and until his or her guilt is established beyond a reasonable doubt.  Therefore,  I'm not making any judgement

  12. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    No American has more than specific immunity to a specific law. If the SC gives it to him, well they are certainly money well spent by him and the GOP.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image90
      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I'll be honest, I'm not entirely sure about whether a President has legal immunity while in office. Here's an article from a legal expert that might shed some light on the matter. I would think we'll have to wait for the Supreme Court to make a ruling on this. Personally, I'm not about to jump into the fray and pretend like I have all the answers, as you seem to have done.

      "The U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments in April in a significant case determining whether former President Donald Trump is immune from federal criminal prosecution in the Jan. 6, 2021, election interference case against him.

      The court agreed on Wednesday to consider the immunity claim, marking a short-term victory for the former president, who has attempted to delay the criminal case charging him with plotting to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

      The trial, which was initially scheduled to begin in early March in Washington D.C., could be delayed until late summer or fall — or even after Election Day.

      The Supreme Court indicated in a one-page order that during the week of April 22, it will address a legal question that has not been previously tested: "Whether and if so to what extent does a former President enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office."

      The question presented was “clearly heavily negotiated” among the justices, Norman Eisen, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and CNN legal analyst, told Salon. It's not the question that either of the parties presented.

      “My reading is that there are three very important clues in the question presented that show that the justices are as skeptical about, frankly, the astonishing idea that a president can commit political assassinations as part of his official acts and escape accountability unless he's impeached and convicted, which has never happened to a president in American history,” Eisen said.

      The court adopted the circuit court's “narrowing principle” of only ruling on former presidents, simplifying the case's assessment against Trump because they don't have to reach the “harder question” of a sitting president with the “additional constitutional and other protections that a current president enjoys.”

      They ask “whether” and “to what extent” the immunity applies to official acts, Eisen explained. When you have a situation like that, where the overwhelming balance of the acts is “clearly political, I read that to signal of if you have some extent of officiallness, but it doesn't predominate, that's not going to be enough," he said.

      The third clue is the keyword “allegedly” as it points to the allegations in the case which are contained within the indictment, Eisen pointed out. This suggests that the justices can deliberate on this matter solely based on legal documentation, without the need for an evidentiary hearing.

      “Those are just clues,” he added. “We may be misreading the clues or learn something different later, but those are the clues embedded in the question presented.”

      The court would need to take “the narrowest possible approach” to this question, Bennett Gershman, a former New York prosecutor and law professor at Pace University, told Salon. A “broad approach” would require the court to provide convincing reasons for cases with “terrifying implications” like immunity for ordering the assassination of a White House official about to expose Trump taking bribes for pardons, ordering the kidnapping of a senator about to vote on legislation Trump opposes and “many more of these horrendous hypotheticals.”
      https://www.salon.com/2024/03/02/legal- … -immunity/

  13. Credence2 profile image77
    Credence2posted 2 months ago

    This idea of absolute immunity seems to be all the rage. The reality is as a former military member there are lawful and unlawful orders

    "I (state your full name), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of Second Lieutenant, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God."

    We are a nation of laws so there is such a thing as unlawful. My loyalty was sworn to the Constitution and the American people, not the mere caprice of any one man. When Osama was killed in 2011 as ordered by Barack Obama those were lawful orders given within framework of his duties as President and Commander and Chief, in time of war. Having your political opponent assassinated or attempting to subvert Constitutionally mandated procedures as to how our elections take place is not within that framework and is consequently a crime.

    Trump says that only through the impeachement process can he be held accountable for crimes committed while in office, how stupid is that?

    Andrew Johnson was impeached not for a crime but  for resisting Radical Republicans and their agenda of coming down hard on the defeated Confederacy after the Civil War. It was all political and legislative. With a Republican House and Senate, Trump could never be impeached nor convicted even if he shot the Pope, merely for partisan reasons. But crime and punishment belong to Executive agencies and the Judicial Branch. Technically, under such circumstances Trump becomes a dictator. But is that not what he said he wanted to become?


    Leave it to Trump, his henchmen and MAGA to make hay out of something so obviously ridiculous. I remain astounded that even a right wing Supreme Court could twiddle their fingers on this very idea for so long.

    No one is above the law and anyone can be held accountable, I like that.

    Just my opinion.......

    1. Sharlee01 profile image90
      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Timeline  --- In my view, it does not appear anyone has dragged their feet.

      "In August 2023, a grand jury indicted Trump on four charges related to his actions after the 2020 presidential election. 

      On Feb. 6, 2024, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled that Smith could move forward with a trial.

      It appeared Trump's team acted quickly ---
      On Feb. 12, the former president’s attorneys sought a stay of the decision
      form the U.S. Supreme Court. Trump’s stay petition asked the Court to consider if Trump had undertaken official acts “performed within the ‘outer perimeter’ of his official responsibility.” The petition also argued that Trump already had been tried for the alleged Jan. 6 acts during his Senate impeachment proceedings, and he could not be tried a second time.

      BY Feb. 28, the Supreme Court granted a stay and limited the arguments in the case to the single issue of presidential immunity.

      Trump’s team has asked the Supreme Court to look closely at the immunity question. “The panel opinion  … "
      https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/exp … reme-court

      With good speed, the Supreme Court gave a date to hear the case
      On April 25, 2024, Supreme Court will consider former President Donald Trump's claims of immunity from conspiracy and obstruction charges related to the 2020 presidential election.  https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/exp … 0election.

      One can hope the ruling will come with good speed.
      A couple of days ago Jack Smith asked the SC to not hear the case. Their decision is pending.

      1. peoplepower73 profile image90
        peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

        If the SC rules that Trump is granted immunity, does that mean any sitting president can commit unlawful acts and be found not guilty, because of the precedent set by the SC? Moreover, if they have been tried once for criminal acts, does that then acquit them of further trials for the same act.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image90
          Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

          That's an excellent point to consider. The implications of such a decision could indeed pave the way for potential abuse of power by a sitting president.

          Personally, I believe that if someone has already been acquitted of a crime, they shouldn't face retrial for the same offense unless there's compelling evidence of a new, similar crime of the same nature. However, this is a complex issue because the trial was conducted by Congress, which operates under different procedures and standards compared to a traditional court of law. Trump's claim appears to be tailored to acts that he deemed official performed within the outer perimeter, also claiming he was tried for these offenses.

          "Trump's attorneys sought a stay of the decision from the U.S. Supreme Court. Trump’s stay petition asked the Court to consider if Trump had undertaken official acts “performed within the ‘outer perimeter’ of his official responsibility.” The petition also argued that Trump already had been tried for the alleged Jan. 6 acts during his Senate impeachment proceedings, and he could not be tried a second time."
          https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/exp … reme-court

          I would think it might come down to the SC's view of double jeopardy in a way.

          Double jeopardy is a legal principle that prevents an individual from being tried or punished again for the same offense after they have already been acquitted or convicted of that offense. Essentially, it protects individuals from being subjected to repeated prosecution or punishment for the same conduct. Double jeopardy is based on the idea that once someone has been tried and either acquitted or convicted, the government should not be able to try them again for the same crime. This principle is enshrined in the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution and is a fundamental aspect of criminal justice systems in many countries around the world.

          Jack Smith's case is Federal...

      2. Credence2 profile image77
        Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Well, when you put it that way, you have made your point. It is imperative that the American people know before the election if Trump has broken the law and allow people to consider in the most serious of his charges if he is fit for the top job. I just wish that they would have given this the same urgency that they did the case over whether Trump could be removed from any of the states' ballots.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image90
          Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

          I believe it's crucial for cases like this to be handled promptly, but fairness demands that both sides are given sufficient time to prepare their arguments. Just as Smith had ample time, it's only fair that Trump be granted the necessary time to mount his defense. Swift resolutions are essential for voters to make informed decisions about how to vote in the upcoming 2024 elections. 

          It seems increasingly likely that he'll be on the ballots, but the prospect of a candidate being jailed raises unprecedented questions. It's difficult to predict the outcome or the implications if he were to win while incarcerated. One can speculate that Congress might move to impeach him, or perhaps even enact new legislation to prevent a sitting president from governing while in jail.

          Then one must ask, what of the people that voted for him... My God, I really can't imagine where this could end.

          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/0 … n-00090931

          1. peoplepower73 profile image90
            peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Trump was acquitted twice by congress. Once was for the abuse of power with Russia and Zelensky and once for Jan.6. That is not the same as a court trial with a judge and jury.  So how can double jeopardy be claimed?

            Trump’s acquittals were a result of the Senate failing to reach the necessary supermajority for conviction. While some senators from his own party voted to convict, the overall vote count did not meet the threshold for removal from office.

            Here is what the Fifth Amendment states. The key here is : "unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,"

            Trump has been indicted four times by a Grand Jury.

            Fifth Amendment
            No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image90
              Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

              I was way off on even bringing up double jeopardy, before doing even a bit of research. After looking around a bit I found this -- 

              The concept of double jeopardy, as enshrined in the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, prohibits individuals from being tried twice for the same offense after being acquitted. However, it's essential to understand that impeachment by Congress and criminal prosecution in a federal court are considered separate processes with different purposes and standards.

              Impeachment is a political process conducted by Congress, involving charges brought by the House of Representatives and a trial conducted by the Senate. The purpose of impeachment is to remove a government official from office for "high crimes and misdemeanors," as defined by the Constitution.

              On the other hand, criminal prosecution in a federal court involves charges brought by the government (typically represented by federal prosecutors) against an individual for violating federal law. The purpose of a criminal trial is to determine guilt or innocence and administer justice according to the law.

              If a president were impeached by the House of Representatives and subsequently acquitted by the Senate, it wouldn't necessarily prevent them from facing criminal charges for the same offense in a federal court. This is because impeachment and criminal prosecution are distinct legal processes, each with its own standards and procedures.

              Therefore, being found not guilty in a Senate impeachment trial would not constitute double jeopardy in the context of potential criminal charges in a federal court. The president could still be subject to criminal prosecution if there is evidence of wrongdoing that violates federal law.

              1. Credence2 profile image77
                Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                Yes, you do understand, my position exactly....

              2. peoplepower73 profile image90
                peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                You had me off on a tangent for a while with the double jeopardy gambit..  These are the charges that Trump is trying to claim immunity on.

                In the case of Donald J. Trump v. United States, the Supreme Court is considering Trump’s claims of immunity from conspiracy and obstruction charges related to the 2020 presidential election.

                Election Subversion: He faces charges related to his alleged attempts to steal the 2020 election.

                Classified Documents Handling: He is accused of mishandling classified documents after leaving the White House.

                These are charges, not convictions. So I think Trump's lawyers will have a tough time convincing the SC of immunity.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image90
                  Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  I did some Google research to see what some legal minds are saying about Trump's chances in the SC case. Pickings are very lean...  However, I did address each charge.  I also think Trump's lawyers will have a hard time with this case.

                  "In the case of Donald J. Trump v. United States, the Supreme Court is considering Trump’s claims of immunity from conspiracy and obstruction charges related to the 2020 presidential election."

                  Trump is trying to make arguments regarding presidential immunity from criminal prosecution while in office. This immunity argument is based on the idea that subjecting a sitting president to criminal charges could interfere with their ability to carry out their duties effectively. In my view, this argument has been challenged, with opponents arguing that no one, including the president, is above the law.

                  "Election Subversion: He faces charges related to his alleged attempts to steal the 2020 election."

                  Trump's legal team may argue that as a sitting president, he is immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken in his official capacity. They might also argue that any actions he took related to the election were within the scope of his presidential authority. He may also bring in freedom of speech.

                  "Classified Documents Handling: He is accused of mishandling classified documents after leaving the White House."

                  Trump's defense would likely focus on challenging the specifics of the charges and the evidence presented against him. They may argue that any actions he took were inadvertent or within his rights as a former president.

                  The Court would examine relevant laws and protocols governing the handling of classified information to determine whether Trump's actions violated any statutes or regulations. They would also consider whether Trump had the requisite knowledge or intent to mishandle classified materials.

                  The Court would likely review past cases involving the mishandling of classified information to guide its decision-making process. Precedents set in similar cases could influence the Court's interpretation of the law and application to the present case.

                  Trump may assert executive privilege or other forms of presidential privilege in an attempt to shield certain documents or communications from scrutiny.

                  I think we might agree -  Ultimately, whether Trump could win this case in the Supreme Court would depend on the strength of the evidence against him, the persuasiveness of his legal arguments, and how the justices interpret the relevant laws and precedents. 

                  I think he might pull out the Document case in Florida.

  14. Sharlee01 profile image90
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    Lie or just confused? 

    There's been some scrutiny over President Biden's recent claim in a speech, where he stated he was the first in his family to attend college. This declaration emerged during a speech in Wisconsin, focusing on student loan initiatives. Biden recounted, "I, like many in this audience, was the first in my family to go to college, watching my dad struggle to support me through it."

    However, keen-eyed observers, including digital strategist and conservative figure Greg Price, highlighted inconsistencies in Biden's narrative. Price shared a clip from a speech two years prior, where Biden proudly mentioned his grandfather's college football background, seemingly contradicting his recent assertion of being the family's inaugural college attendee.

    Price's post flagged Biden's statement as untrue, emphasizing prior instances where Biden lauded his grandfather's athletic achievements. He juxtaposed Biden's recent speech with a clip from October 2022, where Biden expressed pride in his grandfather's football prowess, suggesting a discrepancy in Biden's claims about his family's educational history.

    Source with video side by side of Joe once again being untruthful or confused, who knows?
    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status … gical-liar

 
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