Trump’s Day One: A Bold Agenda to Reclaim America
I don't think there is anything more indicative of Trump's unstable mind is how he has handled his war on the world.
From his LATEST reversal.
"Trump has imposed a slate of tariffs on US trading partners this year – then paused, modified, raised or lowered them, in a chaotic barrage of policy actions that’s left everyone from major nations to individual Americans trying to figure out how to plan for the future even as economic uncertainty grows."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/12/business … pean-unionWe finally took a Step Away from the Trump-Putin America he has been driving toward that MAGA seems to want.
Judge orders Trump administration to stop immigration arrests without probable cause in Southern California
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/11/politics … able-cause
Speaking of that, just recently it seems that most Americans, except for MAGA of course, are now aware of the dangers of Trump's immigration policies.
"Americans’ views of immigration have swung drastically upward in the past year, with a new poll showing record-high support for immigration amid President Donald Trump’s controversial mass deportation campaign.
A record 79 percent of American adults think immigration is good for the country, according to a new Gallup poll released Friday. And the number of Americans who want immigration reduced dropped sharply from 55 to 30 percent since last year’s poll." - That 30%, of course, is MAGA.
"Meanwhile, disapproval of Trump’s immigration approach outweighs approval by 27 percent (points), potentially complicating the president’s strategy on a policy area that he has made a cornerstone of his presidential agenda."
Finally, America is coming to its senses.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/1 … l-00448342Rosie O'Donnell needs to sue Trump for defamation.
Trump says he’s considering revoking Rosie O’Donnell’s citizenship, reigniting decades long feud
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/12/politics … nald-trumpI am very proud to be opposed to every single thing he says and does and represents. I think he’s a racist and he’s misogynistic and he’s sexist,” O’Donnell said.
That is where I am with Trump right now…..
And where does Trump believe that he has the authority to do this?Trump's MO is action first and don't think about the consequences. If things goes wrong, file an appeal and hang it up in the courts. Meanwhile, his action will still take place while the courts sort it out..
In his own dictator mind, of course. The Constitution has no meaning to him.
WORSE, it has no meaning to anyone who continues to support him given everything that is known about him no matter how much they protest to the contrary. It is their actions that count, not their words.I do need to say that as bad as Trump is, he occasionally does do the right thing. Granted it is very infrequent, but he does do them. Operation Warp Speed is probably the best example although there have been two or three more.
Everything detestable that he has done since, the sheer mass of it, more than neutralized anything positive that he had done in his previous administration.
Agreed,
I was on the verge of giving him kudos for a Gaza Cease fire, but that seems stalled again.
Here is a slightly different take on why Trump's deportation mess is backfiring on him.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/13/politics … p-analysis
Bottom line, his war on immigration is now DEEPLY UNPOPULAR with non-MAGA Americans (roughly 65 - 70% of us)."anything positive that he had done in his previous administration."
Like what?
Cut taxes for the rich?
Send insurrectionists to the Capitol?
Fail to show up for his successor's inauguration?I could find only one thing, and it is minor - he declassified the JFK assassination files.
Donald Trump acknowledged the lethality of COVID-19 as early as **February 7, 2020**, in a recorded conversation with journalist Bob Woodward. He said:
“This is deadly stuff… It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus… You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed.”
This was weeks before the first confirmed U.S. death and well before he publicly downplayed the virus. According to Woodward’s book *Rage*, Trump had already been briefed in **late January** by national security officials who warned him that COVID-19 would be the **biggest national security threat** of his presidency.
Despite this, Trump continued to compare the virus to the flu in public statements throughout February and March, even tweeting on **March 9** that the flu kills tens of thousands annually and that “life & the economy go on”.
He later told Woodward on **March 19**:
“I wanted to always play it down… I still like playing it down because I don’t want to create a panic.”
OWS was he way of taking credit for something that he initially effed up. This is how he operates. Action first, don't think about the consequences of said actions and then fix it, take credit for it, and then blame others for your stupid actions,
There were 62,000 confirmed deaths while Trump delayed doing anything until OWS.I am getting a strange response from hubpages. When I go to notifications and click on one of the forums, it never loads, just a white screen.
I got to this one because it was already open and it allows me to post things. Strange.I experienced that two days ago. Even on giant Google. Is it a technical or a web glitch? Still wondering.
OH MY, TACO Trump (it doesn't just have to be about tariffs) has given Putin yet another extension. I wonder if this will keep up for the next three and half years?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/politics … pons-trumpGod, is with Trump. And all things are easy in this picture, or scenario. May God arise.
Yes, God is with Trump, and Trump will stand before him one day at the judgement. As we all will.
I would not want to be in Trump's shoes on judgement day. The devil may have a run for his money as to who will be in charge of Hell.
Agreed. But don't be surprised should he receive a pass, before some of us here.
Trump and MAGA keep up the mantra that the rest of the world is treating America "unfairly". So I did a little research on that. It turns out no nation, other than China, has what the WTO considers unfair trade practices against America,
Obviously, this whole mess he has gotten America into is based on the debunked premise that trade deficits are bad. You can tell he doesn't believe it himself because he attacks nations with which we have a trade SURPLUS.
Proving once again he is a CON MAN.Same for firing government employees.
MarketPlace, "The total amount we spend on payroll for federal workers is about $336 billion a year.
That’s 1% of gross domestic product, and less than 5% of total federal spending. The government payroll for other developed countries is typically 5% of GDP. US is 1%.
The federal government employs about 3 million workers, a figure that excludes active-duty military personnel (1.3 million active-duty troops, 765,000 reserve personnel)."
BTW: I've posted this same information from a variety of sources about half dozen times.5% vs 1%, now that IS interesting. It would seem that the problem that Trump and company is a figment of their imagination. They are trying to fix something that isn't broken.
Yes, it is worse in some places. Not sure how you think that it being worse in some countries justifies over 300 billion dollars? I guess it is a novel concept but it is possible to do better.
To someone who doesn't think any money should be spent on gov't salaries, I imagine 0.0001% is too much.
Prices get even higher for Americans — pushing the Fed's target goal further away
Inflation increased in June and moved further away from the Federal Reserve's target rate as central bank policymakers prepare to meet later this month amid President Donald Trump's calls for interest rate cuts.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics on Tuesday said that the consumer price index (CPI) – a broad measure of how much everyday goods like gasoline, groceries and rent cost – rose 0.3% in June compared with last month, while it was up 2.7% on an annual basis. Those figures were slightly higher than the estimate of economists polled by LSEG.
Both marked accelerations from last month, when the monthly increase was 0.1% and the annual figure was 2.4%.
So-called core prices, which exclude more volatile measurements of gasoline and food to better assess price growth trends, were up 0.2% from the prior month and 2.9% from a year ago. Those figures were slightly cooler than economists' expectations. As with the headline number, the core numbers ticked higher compared with May, when inflation rose 0.1% on a monthly basis and 2.8% on an annual basis.
Food prices rose 0.3% in June from the prior month and were 3% higher on an annual basis. The food at home index rose 0.3% in June from a month ago and is up 2.4% on an annual basis, while the food away from home index increased 0.4% on a monthly basis and is 3.8% higher than a year ago.
Egg prices declined 7.4% in June, continuing a cooling trend after the industry saw rapid price growth last year due to an avian flu outbreak, which left prices still 27.3% higher than a year ago. The index for meats, poultry and fish rose 1% on a monthly basis and is up 4.1% from last year. The dairy index declined 0.3% from a month ago and is up 0.9% compared with a year ago, while the fruits and vegetable index was flat in June and is 0.7% higher than last year.
Energy prices increased 0.9% in June after falling by 1% in May, driven by 1% increases in the gasoline and energy indexes last month, as well as a 0.5% increase in the natural gas index. The energy index fell 0.8% over the last year while the gasoline index is down 8.3% from a year ago, although the electricity index is up 5.8% and natural gas has risen 14.2% in the last year.
Housing prices rose by 0.2% in June and was the primary factor in driving the overall CPI increase. Over the last year, the shelter index increased 3.8%.
FOXNEWSIt would be nice to see the list, if it even exists. However, we don't need to see a list, there are many pictures of Trump with Epstein and his harams' having a grand old time..
This could all be a distraction of look here, not there, while mass deportations of immigrants continue under Gestapo leader Stephen Miller edicts.They booed JD Vance at Disneyland. Imagine how hated you must be to get booed at the
happiest place on earth.…….Imagine how hateful you must be to express your politics-driven boos in the happiest place on earth . . .
GAto avoid an unwelcome experience next time, maybe Vance might consider Disneyworld instead, he would be in his element here in Florida, a true shade of rabid red......
As far as California is concerned both Trump and Vance suck.
do they not say, "as go California, so goes the nation?" California still remains the model that is taking over much of America.And there, you make a good point: California vs. Florida—ideological icons for both sides.
Comparing state report cards might add to the comparison. A quick look-about finds Florida on top in educational outcomes, cost-of-living, taxes, income disparity, and poverty rate. No wonder Californians are cranky.
Disney World would have been the smarter choice.
GARecent analysis suggests that trends initially driving people out of California \
– especially high housing costs and a perceived lower quality of life due to issues like congestion and natural disasters – are now beginning to affect other Sun Belt states that were popular destinations.
Here's why:
Rising housing costs: Cities in states like Arizona, Texas, and Florida, which once offered a significant affordability advantage, have seen dramatic increases in home prices and rents. In some instances, the rate of increase surpasses that of major California cities, according to The Atlantic. This makes it harder for residents to afford housing, a key driver of the California exodus.
Decreased housing supply growth: A key factor in rising costs is a slowdown in housing construction in many Sun Belt cities, which used to be known for their housing abundance and relatively lenient zoning regulations, according to www.vox.com. This echoes the situation in California, where slow housing production has been a major contributor to high prices.
Quality of life concerns: Rapid population growth in some Sun Belt cities is leading to increased traffic, strain on infrastructure, and potential concerns about resource availability (e.g., water in drier regions).
However, it's important to consider:
Still comparatively more affordable (for now): Despite the recent surge, housing costs in many Sun Belt cities remain lower than in major California hubs.
Varying experiences within the Sun Belt: While some areas are experiencing the shift more intensely, others may be less affected or have enacted policies to encourage development and affordability.
The role of politics and policy: States like Texas and Florida have implemented pro-growth housing policies, which could potentially differentiate their long-term trajectory from California's.
In essence, while the Sun Belt still offers advantages like lower taxes and a generally lower cost of living compared to California, the influx of residents is undeniably putting pressure on housing affordability and infrastructure, raising concerns that some of the challenges seen in California could increasingly impact other Sun Belt states.
GA, the rest of the country has a reprieve, but who knows how long that is to last? It may well be that “California” is coming to a theatre near you. Increasing population and the struggle for resources may not be unique to California, but it has just happened there first as the most populous state. Any relief other “sunbelt” states current enjoy boasting about its livability compared to California, may well be short lived. We have seen a far more expensive real estate market here in Florida over the last 5-6 years for example.Not said yet but California's Per Capita GDP puts Florida's to shame.
Geez Cred, you earned a bit of a jab with the first part of your comment (down to "GA").
Was it an article or your words? Were they for your moral support or my education? ;-)
Management of the inevitable (your point?) was the whole point. If you look at the physical draws of both states, it's a fair and valid comparison. The point is about the management of the problems that come with your "inevitability."
It sure looks like Florida has done a better job for its citizens.
GAAs a Floridian, I don't think living in a near fascist state is "doing a better job"
You have:
* Hostile take over of high schools and universities
* Indoctrination of our students with revisionist history
* Centralized control over Elections.
* Targeting "Disfavored" Institutions and Businesses
* Loss of Women's Rights
* Suppressing dissent.
* Side-stepping democratic checks.
Florida is not a happy place to live unless you are ruby red.Yep, personal ideology is a deciding 'happiness' factor. That is also validated in the California vs. Florida standings.
GACuriosity piqued. Its appears California happiness is rated at #13 (Index at 55.63) and Florida at #14 (Index at 55.38). Neck and neck I would say. Wallet Hub did a study with three main categories. Take a peek to see the breakdown. You're in Maryland, right. They came in at #2.
Happiest States in America (2025) by Wallet Hub (Sept 9, 2024)
https://wallethub.com/edu/happiest-states/6959See, I was right, the California/Florida comparison was a fair one. Even WalletHub agrees with me.
A few more steps, and we'll be back to the validity of the original point: the economic and financial differences shown in the compared management styles, Liberal vs. Conservative.
GA
Yup, Alligator Alcatraz is a new sight seeing attraction I hear. Florida recognized opportunity to increase the coffers to help pay for those pesky hurricanes. I hear air boat rides are on the rise. Just kidding about.
On the up and up it would be interesting to do an objective comparison. Maybe another time with a cup of coffee. The only thing off the top of my mind is California is the 4th largest economy in the world as of 2025. It had a 6% growth over 2024. Yet, it does have it draw backs I must say especially cost of living. That would be interesting to see if cost of living has a correlation with economy size.Oh no . . . snark from tsmog, what is the world coming to . . . ;-)
Emotion vs. reason, head vs heart. That argument hasn't changed since Socrates, and reality hasn't changed its verdict on the winner since then either.
GAI prefer diet coke over Hemlock. You forgot about the dual of the angel on one shoulder and a demon on the other. I don't remember which is on which shoulder contrast left brain vs right brain mediated by the corpus callosum.
Uh-Oh! I'm wandering going from here to there while wondering if back again. What is the speed limit anyway. I'm walking to Burger King now to get a Fully Loaded breakfast sandwich. Too lazy to make toast.
Note: Yup, I know it is not nutritious and costs too much. But, damn, IMO it tasted good once in a while.I know all about those "angels." When the devil wins, I usually get in trouble.
Your breakfast choice is more proof of my point: your head says you shouldn't, but your heart says go ahead. The negatives are 'down the road' (health and wallet-wise), and the positives are immediate; heart vs. head.
State financial decisions are the same thing: emotion vs. reason. California's financial situation, when compared to Florida's, could be a stark example of emotion-driven decision-making. aka Liberal vs. Conservative.
*Disclosure demands I admit to the same decision process when I go for two (might as well compound a bad decision) Hardee's breakfast biscuits.
GAM'm . . . M'm Looks mighty tasty to me. I had not heard of Hardee's. But, a peek shares it is the same as Carl's Jr. in my neck of the woods both owned by CKE Restaurants. The clue is both use the same logo/icon the star.
Hardee's has a better breakfast menu than Carl's Jr. No biscuit and gravy for sure. I would fancy that
I would have to drive near a mile to get to them.
Burger King is maybe a 5+ minute walk going west from my mobile home. Going east the same amount of time I would come upon Antonio's a mom & pop Mexican food place with awesome breakfast burritos of various type. Chorizo and egg plate too. They are very generous in size and reasonably priced.
I am spoiled with those two fast food take out places that close to me. Driving wise I have over a dozen places for take out including restaurants within ten minutes or so. Once in a while I walk to IHOP for store bought pancakes as a sit down and flirt with the waitress kind of thing. But, the walk home is slower ha-ha
Now, though I am spoiled with convenience for take out at hand my grocery store Albertsons is only a half mile walk for me too. Albertsons is a major store chain. If an urge hits for something different than I shopped for on my usual Monday morning I am still spoiled it seems. Plus, I get my exercise.
Just took a look and in the last couple of years, ChatGPT listed 10 states as losing population: 60% are Blue. 30% are Red. and 10% are Purple (PA).
Only the first and last paragraphs were from me, the rest came from an article.
The genius with Trump is that he created MAGA, It is a tight-knit community with hats, rallies, food, and entertainment. The people who attend those rallies are having fun. He has also neutered congress with all his mid-term primary threats.
Even though we are beginning to see chinks in his and their armor with the Epstein drama and flip-flopping of all of Trump's decision making. It is beginning to frustrate the MAGA's base, but for the most part, they are still loyal to him.
The democrats have nothing like that. They need "community." to come together as one with someone who has the right-stuff to be a leader.
There are 3/12 more years of his BS. I think the severe weather is going to play a big role in those Trump states where they can't get any help from FEMA and NOAA. with both agencies being dismantled. I think we haven't seen how high the frustration level is going to go yet..I think MAGA is numb to Trump, he can piss all over them and they won't care much. I guess "can" is wrong now, isn't it? He is doing it now with things like “I’m calling them weaklings for believing that hoax. They’re gullible weaklings!”
While they will never vote for a Democrat, no matter how qualified, they may not just vote at all. That is one reason why Biden won Georgia; Trump pissed of Georgian Republicans.In other words he created a CULT, much like a certain person back in Germany in 1934 did or another person in North Korea has.
Stupid= ignorance squared.
The democrats have been weak and far too accommodating toward the Trump administration and its illicit policies.
It is going to take more than one whack on the head to get hidebound Trumpers to realize that the emperor has no clothes……
But, it is coming…..The Democrats have, for decades, been weak and all too complicit in violating every immigration law on the books. It is to the point that Democrat leaders (even judges!) in cities and states make it plain to the rest of the country that they will NOT follow the law, that they WILL aid and abet the criminals violating our laws.
THAT is the legacy that Democrats have left us to deal with.Democrats and even conservative judges not on the Supreme Court understand that without Due Process, we are no better than Russia.
The rest is just your unsubstantiated and biased opinion.Again, it is not about due process. That is a red herring being used to keep illegal aliens in the country, to delay as long as possible execution of the law.
No one is against due process, but it MUST be reasonable. Using it to violate the law for millions of criminals must not happen, but liberals are using it that way.
Find another way. Quit trying to stop deportations, quit aiding and abetting criminals. Perhaps all the hoorah will go away then.
Are you sure about that "taking over" part? Recent national news and election results don't seem to support that thought.
GAIt does sound a little odd, doesn't it? Californians may think they are taking over the country (as their own people leave town, unable to stomach the excesses), but the rest of the nation seems to disagree.
Their crime rate is through the roof, their taxes the same, and their hospitals are closing because there isn't enough funding to keep them open. Their sanctuary cities are rioting because the law has finally come to town. But the rest of the nation wants what they have.
I don't think so.Yeah, but I don't want to be too hard on California's citizens; it's a great place to visit. The context of Cred's comparison was too tempting. Red vs. Blue using Florida and California was like low-hanging fruit—usually irresistible. ;-)
GAAgree. I like Cali...just stay away from La, SF, San Diego, etc. The redwoods are wonderful.
If you took those four away wouldnt California be a red state?
Yes it would. It is only the anthills that make it blue. But isn't that the case in every state? The Blue states get their color from the concrete jungles, not those self supporting folks outside those jungles.
The “anthills” in Colorado make it true blue as well, I guess. but for conservatives if grandma had wheels she would be a wagon.
Do you have to remain in “Green Acres”? Where do you think all of the jobs and opportunities are? You certainly not going to find them in Muscogee….Where do you think your food comes from? Your energy? Your oil? Hint: it isn't from that shack at the end of the street.
Nor, with a handful of exceptions, will you find manufacturing of any real size in the city. Only the control structures (government, police, company HQ, etc.) - the rest is in the 'burbs or the country. Reasonable as so many city folk won't work anyway, preferring to watch TV, make babies and shoot up.A lot of it comes from California, especially food.
Overview
Which US state has your country's economy? : r/MapPorn
California has the largest economy among all US states. Its nominal GDP is $4.1 trillion, surpassing Japan and ranking as the 4th largest economy worldwide. They have to be doing something right. How did all those “lazy” city slickers manage to accomplish this? What is your explanation for this…
Speaking of San Diego . . . an opening for an ironic story.
I went to Naval Basic Training in San Diego. 13 weeks of late summer/early fall, beautiful California weather. 13 weeks on the base with no passes.
On graduation, I spent one night and day with a friend, at his grandmother's house, in some suburb of San Diego. Spent the night 'reunion' partying with his friends and the next morning flew to a 4-week Naval A-School, outside of Chicago.
That was it. 24 hours of civilian California followed by 4 weeks of sub-Arctic Chicago winter.
It was another year of Nuke school in East Coast weather and two Med cruises before I got back there for real.
GA
I plugged your last paragraph into AI and asked it if your statements are true. The following is the results...Take it or leave it.
Crime Rate: “Through the Roof”?
Not true. In fact, California’s overall crime rate has declined significantly in the past year:
• Homicide rate dropped 10.4% in 2024, reaching its second-lowest level since 1966
• Violent crime fell 6%, and property crime dropped 8.4%
• Motor vehicle theft saw a steep 15.2% decline
• California’s crime rate remains lower than many other states,
including Alabama, Arkansas, and Oklahoma
So while some cities like Oakland and San Bernardino still struggle with high crime rates, the statewide trend is downward, not “through the roof.”
Taxes: “Still Through the Roof”?
Partially true. California continues to have some of the highest income tax rates in the country:
• Top marginal rate is 13.3% for incomes over $1 million
• Sales tax averages 8.8%, among the highest nationally
• Property taxes, however, are relatively low at 0.68% effective rate, though high home prices mean high dollar amounts
Recent tax legislation has increased SALT (state and local tax) deductions, which benefits high-income Californians. So yes, taxes are high—but not universally crushing, and some relief is on the way for wealthier residents.
Hospitals: “Closing Due to Lack of Funding”?
True, but nuanced. California hospitals—especially rural ones—are under serious threat due to federal Medicaid cuts:
• 6 rural hospitals are at immediate risk of closure, with 28 statewide flagged as financially vulnerable
• Cuts stem from Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill,” which slashes $1 trillion from Medicaid
• Hospitals in the San Joaquin Valley and Kern County are especially affected While not all hospitals are closing, many are scaling back services, and the situation is dire for rural communities.
Sanctuary Cities: “Rioting Because the Law Has Come to Town”?
Partially true. There have been major protests and clashes in sanctuary
cities like Los Angeles:
• ICE raids in LA sparked violent protests, leading to National Guard deployment
• Sanctuary cities like San Francisco and Santa Clara are suing the Trump administration over federal defunding threats
• The unrest is real, but it’s not universal rioting—it’s concentrated in specific areas and tied to immigration enforcement
So yes, there’s civil unrest, but it’s more about federal-local conflict than a blanket “law coming to town” narrative.
“The Rest of the Nation Wants What They Have”?
Depends on what “they have” means. California offers:
• High-paying jobs, especially in tech hubs like San Jose and Fremont
• Access to healthcare, though threatened by federal cuts
• Strong environmental and social policies, which attract progressive-minded residents But it also has high costs of living, housing shortages, and political polarization. So while many admire California’s innovation and lifestyle, others see it as a cautionary tale.
Final Verdict
This statement is a mix of exaggeration and partial truths. California is not collapsing, but it’s under pressure—especially from federal policy shifts. Crime is down, taxes are high, hospitals are at risk, and sanctuary cities are resisting federal crackdowns. Whether the rest of the nation wants what California has? That’s a matter of ideology and priorities.In addition, the majority of those migrating out of California are right-wing moving to Red States
Bingo! Wonder why, and wonder why it doesn't go the other way as well.
If I live in a city where every car is stolen from, and it happens so often that I dont even report it anymore, what does that do to the statistics on motor vehicle theft.
I guess I could ask chat GPT but I do not use AI.AI can even be deceptive, and given to mistakes.
"Not true. In fact, California’s overall crime rate has declined significantly in the past year:"
And yet we see constant violent riots in the streets. We see fires, we see molotov cocktails thrown at police, we see govt. buildings attacked.
We see the "leaders", those in positions of political power, aiding and abetting criminals evading the law. We see government itself violating employment laws.
Don't tell ME that there is little crime there!
Yes, some of the taxes are fairly low. But enough are very, very high that the total burden is driving people away. So why pretend it is otherwise?
California offers access to healthcare...if you live near a still operating hospital. For those in the Sourthern portion of the state that is not nearly so true.
Check the population figures, removing illegal aliens from the mix. You will find that Californians are leaving, and at a fairly rapid rate. There is a reason for that, and that California is looked up with jealosy is not one of them.Damn, that read like therapeutic venting. Sometimes you just gotta let it out.
GA ;-)I was in California some 15 years ago. It was beautiful, and even the cities were fun and interesting to visit. But things have changed. San Francisco is a garbage pit I won't return to, with crime and filth everywhere. LA much the same: I really enjoyed our time there but won't try it again. I have no wish to participate or even see one of their riots.
Liberals have ruined a once beautiful, vibrant state with their idiotic policies. The state is not something I wish to see again, not any more. That so many people gloss over their massive problems, pretending they don't exist, doesn't help. Telling us that crime is down in that face of obvious and massive evidence to the contrary is just silly, and growing the problem rather than fixing it, and that's just one example.I'm glad this is just your opinion. I have lived in the LA area for my whole life. What you saw as Trump incited riots is just a very small part of LA
LA county
- Total area: Approximately 4,751 square miles (12,310 km²)
- Land: About 4,060 square miles (10,510 km²)
- Water: Roughly 691 square miles (1,790 km²)
Area where ICE was
The square area in Los Angeles where ICE operations and protests were concentrated was approximately 1 square mile in downtown LA.California has been liberal for many decades, so we are talking about more than 15 yEARS.
California values threaten even a red redoubt, like Idaho. But you yourself had admitted that “they” are coming……
I guess you missed it - most California people going to Idaho are Red already. That is not to say Idaho couldn't use some Bluing.
As more people pay attention to Trump and direction toward where he is leading us, the tables will turn. And California will lead the way.
The only place CA is leading to is BANKRUPTCY... economic... moral... social bankruptcy.
It is racing against NY to see which one will be a failed State requiring Martial Law first. If trade stops with China, a growing probability, CA's ports will all but shut down and there goes the CA economy.There you go again Projecting on to others what is really a commentary on Trump.
But no one was talking about Trump. The comparison of state management results doesn't need a 'Trump' inclusion.
GAGA,Trump is at the crux and has exacerbated the red verses blue controversy with his policies and his politics. And until that man is either dead, in prison, or otherwise swear off politics, he remains the “elephant in the room” that I both cannot and will not ignore.
Here is the nice thing about AI, it gives you the sources. It's up to you as to whether you believe them or not.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/07/02/crime … ince-1966/
https://smdp.com/news/crime/california- … ince-1966/You definitely have to check the results. I have gone round and round with ChatGPT on a complex budget analysis. When it produces an answer and it doesn't ring true, I question it. It thinks about that and tries to figure out why it is wrong and then comes back with a different answer plus rational/methodology. A lot has to do with defining terms so that we are (notice I am writing like it is person) talking from the same page.
Sometimes it is embarrassing. I had published a piece over a decade ago. The question I was asking is "how much of your personal tax dollar goes to certain sub elements of outlays, e.g. means-tested assistance. " (roughly 12 cents)
It finally convinced me I was really answering the question "if we had tried to pay for the entire federal budget using just personal income tax receipts, about 6 cents of every dollar would have gone to Means-Tested programs.", not quite the same thing.
What I wanted to know was complicated by the fact that the various pieces of data are contained in different tables or even documents. After a couple of days we finally settled on a methodology that would return reasonable answers regardless of which budget year I chose.
Now I am in the process of editing my article to include a Mia Culpa, and the answers to the question I really wanted to ask. Which I had ChatGPT years ago.
The Trump Effect just keeps coming.
The United States is set to destroy nearly 500 metric tons of US-taxpayer funded emergency food meant for starving people around the world.
Talk about WAST, FRAUD, and ABUSE. Trump is a master at it.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/16/politics … unded-foodThe Trump Revenge Train just keeps moving.
He FIRES the daughter of James Comey who just happened to be the federal prosecutor on the Epstein and Maxwell trials. The things she knows, like is Trump on the list of pedophiles?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/16/politics … fired-sdnyGo, what an asshole.
Trump administration pauses research on flooding risk as over 100 perish in deadly summer floods
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/16/weather/ … d-researchIt had to happen. Crazy Trump ran out of other people to insult so now he is turning on his MAGA base - that would include those on this forum.
"Donald Trump has recently criticized his own MAGA supporters, calling them "weaklings" and "stupid" for demanding the release of files related to Jeffrey Epstein, which he now refers to as a "hoax." (remember, Trump is one of the sources of the hoax). This marks a significant rift between him and his base, as many supporters feel betrayed by his dismissal of their concerns."
https://atlantablackstar.com/2025/07/16 … -go-viral/Let's review the latest on inflation and it is not good news from Trump or the economy. I will be presenting the most common measures, but lesser known ones that the Fed find more important.
* The Headline CPI increased from 2.4% in May to 2.7% in June which is 3.7% annualized. After 3 months of increases, this means Inflation is accelerating again.
* The Core CPI, stripping out some volatile elements, increased from 2.8% in May to 2.9% in June. This is still pretty stable even though it is increasing. However, looking at a smaller subset of items, you will see a different story.
* The Core PCE, followed by the Fed, rose from 2.7% in May to 2.8% in June. This metric has increased three-months running, which is why Powell won't cut interest rates.
* The Trimmed-Mean CPI is one of those specialized metrics the Fed looks hard at and it increased dramatically from 2.22% (annualized) in May to an astounding 3.9% (annualized) in June! Beyond removing Food and Energy which the Core CPI does, this measure removes the top AND bottom 8% items leaving the central part of the basket. This jump shows an across the board increase in inflation. A terrible sign.
* The Sticky CPI increased from 2.27% (annualized) in May to a whopping 4..28% (annualized) in June!! This metric measures things that change infrequently such as rent, medical services, and education. Sticky CPI rising at >3% YoY means inflation is embedded in essential, non-volatile sectors—not just headline spikes. Also, the increase indicates acceleration of inflation. Again, terrible news.
Now the Good News
* Both the Headline and Core PPI fell slightly from May to June. The PPI is what businesses pay and this suggests they are paying less in June. The PPI is also a leading indicator suggesting an flattening or lessening of future inflation. The caveats are that lower transportation and warehouse costs drove the decrease. Goods PPI is still increasing. Taken together, this indicates businesses may be eating rising costs trading small increases in consumer prices for smaller increases, or even losses, in profit margin. If businesses decide to protect their margins, then this will add to future inflation.
You are Paying More For:
* Apparel in June. After falling in April and May, it increased 4.9% (annualized) in June.
* Appliances in June. Prices increased a lot in April and May but the June increase is 1.9% (a mind-blowing 23.9% (annualized)) for June.
* Computers and stuff in June. Prices increased a lot in April and May but the June increase is 1.4% (a mind-blowing 18% (annualized)) for June.
* Sporting goods: The pace of price hikes accelerated here, with the index rising 1.4% in June, up from 0.3% in May. The June increase is the largest in 18 months.
* Tools, hardware and supplies: During much of 2023 and 2024, prices fell for this category. In June, prices rose 0.7%, marking the fifth-straight month of increases.
* Toys: For the second month in a row, prices rose by 1.4%, a back-to-back jump only seen during periods of abnormally high inflation (2022, 1980). And more price hikes could be coming down the pike, Hasbro CEO told CNN’s Audie Cornish this week.
Video equipment: Prices surged a record 4.5% /75% annualized) in June after rising 1% in May in this category that typically has seen more deflation than inflation since 1998, when the BLS started tracking it.
Windows and floor coverings and other linens: After rising 0.3% from May to April, prices in this category surged 4.2% (about 73% annualized) higher in June, a record-high increase (BLS started tracking this category in early 1999). The US textile industry has shrunk considerably in recent decades, resulting in a high reliance on imported linens.
As one person on this thread likes to put it - "why isn't Trump doing anything about this SKYROCETTING Inflation?Very sobering analysis about TACO Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/17/business … l-nightcapSomebody needs to start a new thread. How about: What do you most like or dislike about Trump?
This is the Title of this forum by Sharlee: Trumps-day-one-a-bold-agenda-to-reclaim-America.
Like most forums that go on for hundred of pages, they get diverted into topics that are not associated with the original intent of the forum. They are essentially hijacked. I suggest instead of creating a new thread, a new forum should be created or get back on track with this one. Just my two cents.
California is run by democrats.
democrats are not popular outside their areas of influence. Not even democrats approve of democrats.
"Just 19% of voters questioned in a new national poll give Democrats in Congress a thumbs up on how they're handling their duties, with 72% disapproving.
That's an all-time low since Quinnipiac University first began asking congressional approval questions in their surveys 16 years ago.
The Democratic Party has been in the political wilderness since November's elections, when Republicans won back control of the White House and the Senate and defended their fragile House majority. And Republicans made gains among Black, Hispanic and younger voters, all traditional members of the Democratic Party's base.
Since President Donald Trump's return to power earlier this year, an increasingly energized base of Democrats is urging party leaders to take a stronger stand in pushing back against the president's sweeping and controversial second-term agenda. Their anger is directed not only at Republicans, but at Democrats they feel aren't vocal enough in their opposition to Trump.
And that's fueled a plunge in the Democratic Party's favorable ratings, which have hit historic lows in several surveys this year.
The trend is reflected in the new Quinnipiac poll, which was conducted July 10-14.
Just 39% of Democrats approve of the way Democrats in Congress are handling their jobs, with 52% disapproving and 9% not offering an opinion.
"The approval numbers for Democrats can be characterized as flat out terrible," Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said.
While the approval ratings for Republicans in Congress aren't as "terrible" as the Democrats, they're nothing to brag about.
Only a third of voters questioned in the poll said they approved of the way congressional Republicans were handling their duties, with 62% giving them a thumbs down.
But just over three-quarters of Republicans (77%) said they approved of the way GOP lawmakers on Capitol Hill were handling their jobs, with just one in five disapproving.
Forty percent of respondents approved of how Trump is handling his job as president, with 54% disapproving."The only thing left for Democrats is Insurrection and Violence.
They are pushing issues that only have 20-25% support of the American citizens... they have lost the House and Senate, the Supreme Court and the Executive Office... and Trump is targeting the Institutions and Pillars that support the radical Left Agendas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUz1YHeF9xwRepublicans tried both and failed. Correction, they are still trying the Violence.
Now, let's see how truthful you are:
Democrats support:
* Access to Reproductive Rights - 63% of Americans agree
* Assault weapon ban - 55% of Americans agree
* Climate change action - 70% of Americans agree
* Student loan forgiveness - 50% of Americans agree
* Even Medicare for all - 45% of Americans agree.
Sorry, didn't see what you were referring to.
Oh yeah, I see way down on the bottom is a subject of personal freedom - only 25% - 35% of Americans support Trans Gender Rights. That means many independents and most Republicans don't care about letting people live their lives free from attack by those that don't like them.
ACTUALLY IT IS - "and Trump is targeting the Institutions and Pillars that support AMERICAN VALUES". For example, he is attacking SCIENCE, EDUCATION, Any business that disagrees with him, any person that disagrees with him, the independence of DOJ (now known as DOInjustice), the independence of the JUDICIARY, virtually anything American thought good and decent.
In the same poll, Republicans come in at a sucky 33%.
In any case, it stands to reason the Democrats poll so low among themselves, if the Democrats can't find a leader then the resulting disarray leads to chaos and low poll numbers.
That said, it is looking more and more like the Democrats are going to romp over Republicans in 2026 in spite of the poll numbers.
Why you ask.
* Here is the trend for the RCP Generic Ballot: Feb 1 - Rs +1; Mar 6 - Rs +2.6; April 30 - Ds 1.4; July 4 - Ds - 2.8; today - Ds - 3.0. You can see where that is leading.
* Trump's disapproval spread has grown to -5.5 and will keep growing.
* The nation now disapproves of what Trump has done with immigration and strongly disapproves of him on the economy. Specifically, the OBBB has a disapproval rating of 61%. As American's get hurt by it, it will get worse..The nation disapproves of democrats far more than President Donald Trump.
And they really don't like Republicans either, do they.
Bold Agenda to Ruin America Update:
ACA insurers propose biggest premium hikes since 2018 as Trump policies take hold
As planned, more people will be without insurance because they can't afford it and don't qualify for Medicaid.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/politics … rease-2026Bold Agenda to Ruin America Update:
The Republicans cement the deaths of tens of millions of people.
"DOGE cuts
House Republicans approved a package of $9 billion in spending cuts overnight, handing a win to President Donald Trump. Roughly $8 billion will be pulled from US Agency for International Development (USAID) programs and another $1.1 billion will be withdrawn from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which helps fund NPR and PBS. The measure will now head to the president’s desk to be signed into law. A study published recently in The Lancet estimated that the USAID funding cuts could result in more than 14 million additional deaths by 2030. ....”Bold Agenda to Ruin America Update:
This is how they do it in Putin's America er Russia
Trump administration hands over Medicaid recipients’ personal data, including addresses, to ICE
Going after ONLY the "worst or the worst" is simply another Trump-Bondi lie.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/politics … sonal-data
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/politics … sonal-dataLet's see. The US government pays for Medicaid cost but should not be privy to the information as to either recipient or the work done? How does that work? (If you don't want Uncle Sam to know, don't use it. Pretty simple concept, right?)
But why the lie? The big "ONLY" is 100% lie, for no one at all has ever said that (except Trump haters intentionally misquoting him, of course). Why did you find it necessary, or useful, to make such a whopper? Do you feel it gives credence to your other words? Do you think no one will catch it? Do you not care what it says about you, or about what you are trying to say?
Why say such a thing?The tax payers pay for Medicaid costs. ICE wants that information so they can identify who to deport, including their Social Security information. How would you like to have your social security information be given to a stranger who you know wants to deport you?
You are so focused on the nanny state and them coming after your money and property that you don't realize that Trump and Stephen Miller are using mass deportation to deport people without any due process of law. So therefore innocent people can be deported along with those who actually are criminals..
I know you don't like to hear this, but this is what they did in Nazi Germany. You could be walking down a street and the Gestapo could stop you and ask for your identification. If they didn't like it, you were put in a box car.
Is that the kind of country you want to live in? What qualifies ICE to do what they are doing when they wear masks and can't be identified, but yet they can enter a house or take day labors off the street without any due process of law?Ask him, if there are not any real guard rails, what makes him think that he cannot be “next”?
I don't think he gives a damn about that archaic American Value - Due Process.
I repeat: if you don't want the government (not the taxpayer) to know who/where you are, don't use government services. Saying that the government knows you but won't tell itself doesn't make a lot of sense. Particularly when the information comes from taking charity from that government.
Due process of law is a wonderful idea...until it is used as a method of violating the law, which is what we see going on now. Somehow you have gone from checking citizenship to "If they didn't like it, you were put in a box car. ", which is not what is going on.You must have skipped all your civics classes in school.
It’s ironic that you say, “Saying that the government knows you but won’t tell itself doesn’t make a lot of sense,” because that’s exactly the point: we’ve deliberately structured the government this way for a reason. Separation of powers and data firewalls between agencies aren't bureaucratic quirks—they’re safeguards built to protect individual rights, limit federal overreach, and prevent authoritarian abuse.
The IRS might know where someone lives. Medicaid might know what they earn. But that doesn’t mean ICE gets to scoop up that data and use it to deport someone without a warrant or due process. That’s not “nonsense”—it’s constitutional design.
You’re also trying to reframe civil liberties as some kind of optional luxury—like, if you use a public school or a food bank, you’ve waived your rights. That’s not how our legal system works. Due process isn’t conditional. It's not a privilege that gets canceled because someone “took charity.” And yes, that even applies to people without status, because “no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”—not “no citizen.”
As for the boxcar line, it’s a metaphor. Nobody said that’s what’s happening now. But history teaches us that unchecked power, especially when fueled by the dehumanization characteristic of your side and “they don't deserve rights” arguments, has ALWAYS led to terrible outcomes - as it is in America now. Ignoring that warning because “we’re not there yet” misses the entire point of having protections in place before things go too far.
And let’s be honest—“violating the law” is not the same as forfeiting your humanity. That’s why due process exists. And when it’s treated as an obstacle rather than a principle, that is when the real danger begins.
And let’s not forget the hypocrisy in all of this. Based on your earlier refusal to answer my questions, your holier-than-thou attitude about 'violating the law' seems selectively applied—directed only at The Others.What "individual right" is being protected by not letting ICE know where illegal aliens are? The "right" to live in the US without citizenship?
Sorry, but sharing data has nothing to do with due process. It is all about finding criminals, not prosecuting or punishing them.
No, non-citizens do NOT have all the rights of an American citizen. While liberals wish to give them even more (such as the "right" to violate the laws), it doesn't work that way.
No, violating the law applies to everyone. Do the crime, do the time, and it doesn't matter who you are. (Unless a VIP liberal, anyway - Clinton, Biden and such seem to get away with quite a bit).OR TRUMP, why did you forget Trump?
You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. You are, aren't you?
You’re conflating rights with privileges of citizenship, and they are not the same thing. Non-citizens—even undocumented immigrants—are protected under the U.S. Constitution. That’s not a liberal fantasy, it’s established Supreme Court precedent.
- In Zadvydas v. Davis (2001), SCOTUS ruled that due process applies to all persons within the United States, not just citizens.
- In Plyler v. Doe (1982), the Court ruled that undocumented children cannot be denied access to public education, affirming that even undocumented people have equal protection rights under the 14th Amendment.
So yes, “sharing data” can absolutely raise due process concerns if it leads to action against individuals without proper legal procedure. ICE using DMV, school, or hospital data to track people without a warrant or judicial oversight circumvents constitutional protections. It’s not just about finding criminals—it’s about ensuring the government doesn’t act outside the rule of law.
You may think it’s just about “catching lawbreakers,” but we don’t discard constitutional principles based on someone’s immigration status. That’s not how American justice works. If it were, the government could trample anyone’s rights by simply labeling them “illegal.”
Also, there is no “right to violate the laws”—nobody is arguing that. What is being argued is that laws must be enforced constitutionally, with due process and proportionality—not through blanket surveillance, racial profiling, or disregard for civil liberties. That’s not softness on crime; that’s called living in a free country.
If you think constitutional protections only apply to people you like or approve of, then you misunderstand the whole idea of rights. They either apply to all, or they’re just privileges for the favored.
Also, you talk of no one else but The Others. How about your kids, have you turned them in when they have broken the law? Or yourself for that matter?*sigh*. My original comment addressed YOUR comment that Trump said ONLY the worst of the worst would be deported.
You are consistently changing that to "they are doing it without due process", and I consistently address your WHOPPER that Trump said ONLY the worst of the worst would be deported.
So OK - let's talk about how using their actions to find them means their constitutional rights (as a non-citizen) are violated because there is no due process. The two are not connected in any manner; how does one cause the other?
Second, recall the judge that aided an illegal alien to escape ICE: ICE was waiting at the courthouse for them. Explain how that bit of knowledge differs from the bit provided by Medicaid. Both come from govt., both locate a criminal, both are used to catch that criminal. Neither violates due process, neither violates any constitutional rights. Both are only available because of actions (illegal actions to boot) of the alien. Will you now say that ICE's actions at the courthouse violated due process as well?I am not "changing" anything. They ARE doing it without the hated Due Process.
Your argument rests on a false equivalence: comparing ICE waiting at a courthouse for a known individual under judicial oversight to ICE mining Medicaid data to locate undocumented immigrants, often without probable cause or individualized suspicion. These are fundamentally different situations with distinct implications for due process, civil rights, and government overreach; overreach you once upon a time opposed.
Explain why ICE was even arresting an unconvicted, NONCRIMINAL man who showed up voluntarily at a required court hearing? What Worst of the Worst crime, which is what Trump and Bondi say ICE is going after, had he been convicted of?
In addition, had ICE arrested him in the courthouse, that would have been illegal since all they had was a rubber-stamped administrative warrant. I imagine one of the judge's defenses will be she was stopping ICE from breaking the law again.
So YES, due process was not followed (no judicial warrant) and it violates the 4th and 5th amendments to the Constitution. The mans actions DID NOT do anything more serious than you speeding to warrant such terrible treatment."I am not "changing" anything. They ARE doing it without the hated Due Process."
Of course not. Because claiming Trump said he would only deport the "worst of the worst" actually means there will be no due process. The words just don't mean what Mirriam Webster says they do.
"Your argument rests on a false equivalence: comparing ICE waiting at a courthouse for a known individual under judicial oversight to ICE mining Medicaid data to locate undocumented immigrants"
False equivalence because ICE "mined" court records to find where the illegal alien would be, but "mining" Medicaid is a different "mining". Same data (where are they), same information (name)...but different because you say so. I disagree; my opinion trumps yours because I say so. Just as you do, right?
"Explain why ICE was even arresting an unconvicted, NONCRIMINAL man who showed up voluntarily at a required court hearing?"
Why do police of any kind (city cop, state cop, FBI, etc.) ever arrest an unconvicted NONCRIMINAL person? Answer: because they have reason to think they have committed a crime. Surely you understand that?
" What Worst of the Worst crime, which is what Trump and Bondi say ICE is going after"
And here we go again. Neither one has EVER said they would not arrest anyone BUT the worst of the worst. That little add on is pure Esoteric, attempting to make something when there is nothing.
Lets see; they had a warrant. Did the warrant state they could not arrest inside a courthouse (which they did not try to do and would not have done)? No? Then why do you think it was illegal to do so?
So...due process had zero to do with arresting, or attempting to arrest, the man. Due process only comes into play AFTER an arrest and before punishment. Or did you think a judge must preside over an action prior to a judge presiding over the action?Your second paragraph is what is called non-sequitur
Fourth paragraph - both sets of "mining" are illegal.
Sixth paragraph - but the police and others need probable cause to arrest, not just the color of their skin or a Latin sounding last name that ICE uses.
Eighth paragraph - I guess you DO think Trump and Bondi are lying in the quotes I provided you then..
Nineth Paragraph - As I informed you, they had a dime a dozen "administrative warrant" which is not recognized by most police and almost all courts. They need a REAL warrant that was issued and part o the Due Process process.
Tenth Paragraph - see my last answer.
-sigh- back. What is it about Trump and Bondi's statements that you don't understand??
June 19, 2024 (Fox News interview):
“We're not going after everyone — we’re focusing on the bad ones, the criminals, the cartel members. That’s our priority. We’re not looking to break up families who are working hard.” - According to you, Trump lied.
In a 2020 Fox appearance, she said:
“This administration has prioritized public safety. The goal is to remove the people who’ve committed violent crimes, not hardworking immigrants.” - AGAIN A LIE.
How do you miss such obvious indications that it is ONLY the worst of the worst that Trump and Bondi are interested in? Are you calling them liars to?“This administration has prioritized public safety. The goal is to remove the people who’ve committed violent crimes, not hardworking immigrants.”
Are you trying to say that an illegal alien, refusing to take part in any kind of immigration requirements, is an "immigrant"? Perhaps you don't know that certain actions must be met to immigrate to the US, NONE of which illegal aliens are doing. How do you miss the obvious fallacy in your statement?
No, Trump and Bondi did not limit their actions the way your WHOPPER is trying to do. A priority does not indicate, mean or insinuate that it is the ONLY option.If this administration is prioritizing public safety, then why are they focusing on the people that commit the most crimes, either by number or rate - American citizens. Why are they focusing only on brown people>
I guess " We’re not looking to break up families who are working hard." and "not hardworking immigrants.” means something different to you than to me, Trump, Bondi and most everybody else. I guess that accounts for the disconnect.Are you not an American? Why were you not arrested?
The only real Americans are the Native American Indians. The rest are immigrants and slaves. Americans are a melting pot of all of those ethnic groups.
Your logic is flawed.
They can't be the only real Americans, because America didn't exist until the late 1700s.
It was not founded by the Natives who were here.
It was founded and created by settlers.O.K. it's semantics. So the settlers just didn't show up here. They are decedents of immigrants, mostly Europeans. A Mexican has Spanish and Indian ancestry. A Porto Rican has black and Spanish ancestry. The current American is from a melting pot of mixed ancestry. George Washington's ancestors came form England.
We are all Italians. The name America was created in honor of Amerigo Vespucci.
He was a 16th-century Italian merchant and explorer remembered not only for his voyages that altered the course of history but for bestowing the New World with the name “America.”
Vespucci’s mapping of coastlines and constellations, cultural observations and identification of equatorial ocean currents led to the realization that his travels had taken him to a new continent, challenging the previously held belief that Christopher Columbus had reached the uncharted eastern edge of Asia.
I have been taking a break from the forum, but this issue pulled me in.
Yes, it is currently legal for the Trump administration (or any administration) to request limited access to Medicaid data under specific legal frameworks, as long as it's done for legally permitted purposes, such as:
Verifying eligibility for government programs
Investigating and preventing fraud
Enforcing federal immigration laws, when allowed under agreements like data-sharing memorandums between agencies
In this case, the Trump administration is using a memorandum of agreement (MOA) between the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and DHS/ICE, which lays out how this access is regulated. This kind of agreement is lawful under several federal statutes, including:
42 U.S. Code § 1396a(a)(7) – which governs privacy and permissible uses of Medicaid data
HIPAA regulations, which allow disclosures for law enforcement purposes in limited circumstances
The Federal Data Services Hub, which is already used to verify immigration status for benefit eligibility.
The U.S. government, through the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), has given ICE temporary, limited access to Medicaid enrollee data to help identify individuals who may be in the country illegally and are receiving benefits fraudulently. This data includes names, addresses, birthdates, and Social Security numbers, but the access is tightly controlled. ICE cannot download or store the full Medicaid database; instead, they can only view specific records during weekday business hours (9 AM to 5 PM), and the data is not being used for any purpose beyond identifying ineligible benefit recipients. The official reasoning is straightforward: this is about preventing Medicaid fraud and ensuring taxpayer-funded services go only to those legally entitled to them. Critics, including civil rights advocates and some state governments, argue it violates medical privacy laws like HIPAA, but HHS maintains the process is lawful and strictly limited in scope. What’s being overlooked by many is that cracking down on both Medicaid fraud and illegal immigration were major campaign promises Donald Trump ran and won on in 2024. These actions are consistent with that platform, and it’s strange how quickly people forget that these were policies the American public voted for. Official information about the data-sharing agreement has been published in HHS and CMS press materials, and it outlines the specific legal framework and limitations placed on ICE's access. This is not about mass surveillance. It’s about enforcing eligibility and fulfilling a clear electoral mandate.
Are you opposed to deporting migrants because they are here illegally
Or in this case, if they are committing Medicaid fraud? Again, what is being done is not against the law. You ask, is this the kind of country one wants to live in? We have laws. Do you want to live in a country where laws are ignored, or perhaps some are given a break for breaking our laws? Medicaid fraud is serious and costs taxpayers in the end.In 2025, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) signed an agreement with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to give ICE access to personal data from 79 million Medicaid enrollees. This includes:
• Home addresses
• Social Security numbers
• Ethnic and racial information
• Medical diagnoses and treatment history
ICE intends to use this data to locate and detain undocumented immigrants suspected of receiving benefits illegally.
Legal & Ethical Concerns
This move has sparked intense debate:
• Critics argue it violates HIPAA and the Social Security Act, which protect medical privacy.
• 20 states have sued the Trump administration, claiming the data sharing is illegal and could deter people from seeking emergency care.
• Health advocates warn of a “chilling effect”, where immigrant families avoid hospitals out of fear, risking public health.
Enforcement vs. Privacy
Supporters say the initiative ensures Medicaid funds go to eligible recipients, especially as some states expanded coverage to noncitizens without billing the federal government. But opponents argue:
• Undocumented immigrants are already ineligible for regular Medicaid under federal law.
• Many immigrants pay into Medicare via payroll taxes but never receive benefits.
• Using health data for immigration enforcement sets a dangerous precedent for all Americans’ privacy.
This is a prime example of how healthcare policy, immigration enforcement, and data privacy are colliding in real time.While I understand the concerns raised about privacy and ethics, it's important to ground this conversation in what is actually happening, both legally and practically. The agreement between the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) does not give ICE unrestricted access to the medical records of 79 million Medicaid recipients. That’s a mischaracterization. ICE’s access is limited, highly regulated, and based on a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) that complies with existing federal law. This includes HIPAA regulations, which allow for specific law enforcement disclosures, and 42 U.S. Code § 1396a(a)(7), which governs how Medicaid data can be used for eligibility and fraud prevention. Additionally, ICE is not downloading or storing massive databases; they are reviewing case-specific information, such as name, Social Security number, and address, during business hours, under supervision, and strictly for identifying those who may be unlawfully receiving benefits.
The legal reality is straightforward: undocumented immigrants are not eligible for full-scope Medicaid benefits under federal law. If someone has accessed these benefits fraudulently, it is entirely lawful and appropriate for ICE to verify that using existing data. This approach does not target legal immigrants or citizens.
Federal law does not prohibit U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) from accessing Medicaid records, provided they have the proper legal authority to do so. While Medicaid records are protected under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), the law allows for the disclosure of protected health information under specific circumstances. These include use for law enforcement purposes as outlined in 45 CFR § 164.512(f), in response to a court order, subpoena, or administrative request, and to prevent or lessen a serious threat to health or safety. It would appear they are using the threat to health and safety to obtain records.
It would seem the lawsuits will handle the issue. If ICE is breaking laws, I trust the courts will stop the procedure that is allowing them to view migrants records.I think you missed the point. Here is the rebuttal.
While the response claims to "ground the conversation in what is actually happening," it instead minimizes the unprecedented privacy concerns and ignores critical constitutional, legal, and practical implications of the CMS–ICE data-sharing agreement.
Calling it “limited, highly regulated” access downplays the severity of federal immigration enforcement agencies tapping into health data at all. Even “limited” access to names, addresses, Social Security numbers, and ethnicity from Medicaid records is a massive breach of public trust—especially when it’s being used not for patient care, but law enforcement.
Further, “limited” doesn’t mean justified. Just because ICE only accesses data between 9–5 under supervision doesn’t mitigate the fact that they’re weaponizing a healthcare database—one that citizens and noncitizens were told existed to provide care, not enable arrests.
You say it complies with HIPPA. That’s legally debatable. HIPAA only permits disclosure to law enforcement under narrow exceptions, typically requiring a court order, warrant, or statutory mandate—not broad memoranda of agreement. Likewise, 42 U.S.C. § 1396a(a)(7) mandates that data “shall be safeguarded against unauthorized use” and allows release only for “administrative or other purposes necessary for the proper and efficient administration of the plan.” - And THAT is not what is happening here - they are using it to unlawfully deport people.
Using Medicaid data to locate undocumented immigrants for deportation is arguably not an authorized administrative use—especially if the person wasn’t applying fraudulently but was added by a third party (e.g., employer, hospital, parent).
This blurs the line between civil and criminal enforcement, which courts have previously scrutinized.
"Those lawfully present have nothing to fear." - ICE has proven this to be totally untrue!!!
It assumes a perfect ICE record of distinguishing lawful from unlawful—an assumption strongly refuted by multiple audits and lawsuits. Numerous U.S. citizens (>4%) and legal residents have been wrongfully detained by ICE based on database errors or mistaken identity. The ACLU and immigration courts have documented dozens of such cases.
So yes, even lawful residents should fear medical data being used for enforcement—especially when ICE’s track record on data integrity is spotty at best. (As do residents in parts of LA which are not ghost towns because of ICE)
"It’s not about harassment, just fraud." - FACTS prove otherwise. This argument conflates fraud prevention with immigration enforcement. Medicaid fraud is already prosecuted by HHS’s Office of Inspector General. It doesn't need ICEs help! I have to ask, why do you think it does?
Turning that data over to ICE conflates separate legal regimes and turns every person, documented or undocumented, into a suspect, even in the absence of wrongdoing.
More importantly, this approach will deter parents from enrolling eligible U.S. citizen children out of fear. That isn’t speculative—it has already happened under previous enforcement campaigns, as confirmed in studies by the Urban Institute and Kaiser Family Foundation.
""This is what Trump voters wanted." NO, it is not and they are saying so in poll after poll. Further, This is irrelevant to whether it’s legal or ethical. [u]Majority rule (and it is not even a majority in this case) doesn’t override constitutional rights or statutory protections. Even if Trump campaigned on using Medicaid to hunt down immigrants, that doesn’t make it legally or morally sound.
Moreover, polling shows majorities of Americans oppose using personal health data for deportation purposes, even if they support immigration enforcement broadly. So the mandate argument is both overblown and misleading.
"Common sense use of data." - No—this is a radical shift in how public benefits data is treated, especially health data. It sets a dangerous precedent: If Medicaid can be used to find undocumented people today, what’s to stop future administrations from using VA data to target veterans, or mental health data to profile dissidents? Or, if the tide turns against MAUGA, using such data to hunt down members of that cult.
This erodes the firewall between civil society functions (like healthcare) and government surveillance, which was a central post-Watergate reform.
The real “common sense” position is not to deputize doctors and health records for immigration control.
I am sorry if countering your claims with facts and logic upsets you, but that is what debate is all about.
There are many problems with your line of reasoning:
1. Legality ≠ Morality or Sound Policy
Yes, there are legal frameworks that can allow limited data sharing between Medicaid and ICE, but just because something is technically legal doesn't mean it’s ethical, wise, or free from constitutional challenge. Many egregious abuses in American history—from Slavery to Japanese internment to the FBI's COINTELPRO (something the current admin could likely do again) —were “legal” under the rules of the time.
The core issue isn’t legality. It’s whether we want healthcare data weaponized for immigration enforcement.
2. HIPAA and 42 U.S.C. § 1396a(a)(7) sharply limit access
While HIPAA does allow law enforcement access in specific circumstances, that access is narrowly defined, typically requiring a court order, subpoena, or written authorization, or a serious threat to public health or safety; which this isn't.
Nor was there a Court Order, a Subpoena, or Legal Request. There was, however, an "interagency agreement" between Trump minions - which is NOT judicial in nature.
Under the agreement ICE has limited access to Medicare/Medicaid data—not the full database.. Access is restricted to weekday, business-hour viewing only. They cannot download, copy, or store the data—just view it within CMS systems It can ONLY be used relative to Medicare/Medicaid fraud and NOTHING ELSE
Of course we know that ICE is conducting a fishing expedition under this MOA and will ultimately bend those limits to reach their 6,000 deportations a day on non-criminals by applying them preemptively and broadly—not in response to a specific investigation or suspicion of fraud.
This is an unethical and immoral misuse of legal exceptions, applying “law enforcement” justification to entire classes of people based only on immigration status, not individualized fraud suspicions.
3. Immigration status ≠ Medicaid fraud
The argument assumes that being undocumented and receiving Medicaid = fraud. But:
Many immigrants (including DACA recipients, asylum seekers, green card holders in waiting periods, and U.S.-born children of undocumented parents all of whom have been illegally deported at one time or another) are legally eligible for some Medicaid services.
The real-world result? ICE may investigate or harass legal residents or citizens, especially children in mixed-status families. Innocent people risk being caught in the dragnet because the MOA focuses on status, not actual fraud.
4. Chilling effect on public health
This policy also undermines public health by creating fear that applying for Medicaid (or taking your child to the doctor) will get your family deported. That:
- Reduces immunization rates
- Increases emergency room use
- Delays treatment, worsening outcomes and raising costs
in both citizens, documented immigrants, and undocumented immigrants. This is self-defeating, both medically and economically. and makes this nation both less healthy and less safe.
5. Misuse of campaign mandate
The claim that “this is what people voted for” in 2024 is:
- Debatable: Polls consistently show most Americans oppose harsh deportation tactics, especially when they affect children or people with deep ties to communities.
- Dangerous logic: A majority vote doesn't justify violating rights or targeting vulnerable populations even though conservatives thinks it does. This kind of thinking is exactly opposite of what our founders intended.
- A mandate for border security is not a license for mass surveillance or racial profiling through healthcare databases like is done in all other authoritarian nations.
6. Medicaid fraud is already prosecuted
Fraudulent Medicaid use already has legal remedies. States routinely prosecute it without ICE intervention. Sharing data with ICE isn't about fraud—it’s about finding deportation targets.
If this were truly about fraud, ICE wouldn’t need access. CMS and state agencies already investigate fraud through existing channels.
[b]7. Constitutional and civil rights concerns[/u]
Critics—including state attorneys general and legal scholars—argue the data-sharing agreement violates:
- 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search
- 5th Amendment due process
- Equal protection by disproportionately targeting Latinos and immigrants
The policy opens the door to constitutional challenge, and legal scholars are already preparing suits.
As to am I opposed to deporting migrants because they are here illegally?”
No—but I am opposed to using healthcare systems to bypass due process, create fear, and subject legal residents and their children to ICE surveillance. That’s not law and order nor the American way. That’s authoritarian overreach cloaked in bureaucracy.
“Do you want to live in a country where laws are ignored?”
No. But I also don’t want to live in a country where laws are selectively weaponized against vulnerable people, and where basic services like healthcare become a trap for deportation. Also, that is only a legitimate question when you start showing just as much concern for citizens breaking the law or you speeding (which is breaking the law). Isn't that kind of question really hypocritical?“Do you want to live in a country where laws are ignored?”
They ask as if that wasn't happening right now.
A US citizen and Army veteran was detained at an immigration raid and held for 3 days. His family scrambled to find him
Check that story. SMHI have an even better one... check this one out:
Liberal Goes Back In Time To Kill Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1cPYSqgR4OMG loved it... This clip offers so much of what I have recognized for some time now. Thanks for posting it.
You bet... nothing better to keep it real than comedy that hits the mark.
I’m choosing to be more selective in where and with whom I engage here. At this point, I prefer to focus my time on conversations with the few individuals whose perspectives and communication style I’ve come to respect. I don’t have an interest in engaging further with you.
The feeling is very mutual, but I will not stop rebutting your comments when they are false, with uncomfortable facts that matter.
You are right, Trump and Bondi say they are only going after the "worst of the worst", I am glad you recognize that as a LIE.
“We’re continuing to go after the worst of the worst — including gang members, murderers and rapists.” - TRUMP
“This is modern‑day warfare, and we are going to continue to fight that and protect American citizens every single step of the way... We will keep targeting the worst of the worst.” - BondiAnd you cannot tell the difference between a primary target of the "worst of the worst" and picking up the rest as they become known.
Is that the reason for the whopper? That you don't know the difference between those two things?Yes, I know the difference. But I also know using the "worst of the worst" as a pretext to pick up others is morally and legally wrong. Apparently you do not.
Show me where Trump or Bondi said they were going after the undocumented with no criminal record and I'll take back my comment. But first, you have to refute these:
June 19, 2024 (Fox News interview):
“We're not going after everyone — we’re focusing on the bad ones, the criminals, the cartel members. That’s our priority. We’re not looking to break up families who are working hard.” - According to you, Trump lied.
In a 2020 Fox appearance, she said:
“This administration has prioritized public safety. The goal is to remove the people who’ve committed violent crimes, not hardworking immigrants.” - AGAIN A LIE.
The fact is NINE out of TEN undocumented illegally picked up by ICE have no violent crimes!!!
Because Trump and ICE refuse to release statistics the best available evidence suggest AT LEAST 1 to 4% of those detained and deported are American citizens. It is impossible to tell how many were legal immigrants but what data is available suggest A LOT.
So NO, it wasn't a WHOPPER.Key word (as I pointed out before): ONLY. No one said that...except you. And THAT makes it a WHOPPER.
There is also the wee matter of assuming that targeting one group/person means that no other person will be gathered in as they become known and available. No one said that wouldn't happen...except your claims that it WAS said. Again, a WHOPPER.
(if there are no statistics, it is really interesting to hear "best evidence". Just how was that done? A guess/claim by biased people pushing an agenda without regard to truth?)You are missing the entire point. Stephen Miller started out with a goal of deporting 3,000 people per day. Even if they are afforded due process of law, how are they going to the courts to file claims for violation of due process?
Miller uses mass deportation as an excuse so that they can't use that right because it would flood the courts with claims. He doesn't use box cars. He uses unmarked aircraft in the middle of the night to deport them to El Salvador in chains, shaved heads and no identity with their heads pushed down by guards..
Now he has increased his goal to 6,000 per day. ICE has become a competitive free for all as his merry band of masked para military tries to meet that goal. Now they are going for the low hanging fruit and could care less who they pick up as long as they meet their quotas.
Trump talks about having Medicare members working for their benefits. He has even suggested having them replace deported field workers. They become nothing more than pawns as they are dehumanized by Trump and company. That is probably why he wants their personal Medicaid information so they have to work for their benefits.“Trump talks about having Medicare members working for their benefits. He has even suggested having them replace deported field workers. They become nothing more than pawns as they are dehumanized by Trump and company. That is probably why he wants their personal Medicaid information so they have to work for their benefits.”
This is beyond the pale, People, surely you jest? Medicare and even Medicaid?
These people are generally seniors not strong enough to do that sort of work and also, in regards to Medicare, what have they been paying their taxes for over a lifetime?These two people, since nobody else has dared join them, have provided evidence that they have zero concept of the basic principles upon which America was founded.
Oh, I didn't know that, 6,000 per day. Lot's of legal immigrants and American citizens will be caught up in that dragnet. Welcome to Russia.
Until you show us where they said something different, which I know you can't, then my statement is true, whopper not.
I'm not going to engage with your sharpshooting.
I see you couldn't produce even one example of where Trump or Bondi said they are going after normal undocumented immigrants. That sure deflates all your other comments now, doesn't it.
No; that was obvious from the beginning. It is just YOU attempting to make a simple statement into something it never was. Such as ONLY a small group would be deported.
It was not a single statement but multiple statements from both of them over time. I have given you two from each. Do you want more?
All that is said here against Trump are BOGUS. I don't say or mean bias, but pure BOGUS.
Prove it. Say what you think is BOGUS and then provide proof that it is. Otherwise we all will know you are simply a pro-Trump cult member like the rest of MAGA.
There's no need to. Your dislike of Trump, make you say all sorts of evil real, or imagine against him. You promised not to be in the forum. And here your back. What a lie! Accused yourselve.
Here is another "WORST OF THE WORST" Trump's ICE detained illegally
"A US citizen and Army veteran was detained at an immigration raid and held for 3 days. His family scrambled to find him"
This is a subscriber only article so I offer some excerpts:
'George Retes, a 25-year-old Army veteran and father of two, had been planning his three-year-old daughter’s Minnie Mouse birthday party at the park for weeks.
Those plans fell apart last week when Retes – a US citizen – was detained by federal immigration agents during an immigration raid and protest at a legal Southern California marijuana farm where he worked.
Left injured and burned from pepper spray and tear gas, Retes was detained for three days without explanation, he said. His wife, who couldn’t reach him during his detention, was scrambling to find out where her husband had been taken."
It is CLEAR from this that ICE tortures its detainees.
"Instead of seeing flickering birthday candles and hearing children’s laughter on his daughter’s birthday, the father found himself alone in a cell with bright lights that never turned off, his skin burning and limbs aching. As he laid on a thin mattress covering a cement slab, he wondered if he would ever see his family again." - WHY wasn't he treated better?
"He got out of his car and walked up to the agents to let them know he’s an American citizen who’s just trying to get to work.
“I didn’t think it was gonna be a problem for me to go to work … as long as I identified myself and let them know what I was trying to do,” he said.
The agents refused to listen to him, Retes said, so he returned to his car.
That’s when he says the situation escalated: The agents surrounded his car and started yelling conflicting orders to get out of his car, reverse and park his car, according to the father. Retes then reversed, trying to leave the tense scene, he said.
Agents continued yelling, banged on his window and pulled on his door trying to get it open, he said. The uniformed federal agents eventually threw what appeared to be tear gas into the crowd of protesters, which blurred Retes’ vision and made him choke.
“I’m trying to leave. I’m trying to get out of here,” Retes said he told the agents in between gasping breaths.
At that moment, one agent shattered his driver’s side window, and another sprayed pepper spray in his face, Retes said, recalling feeling a piece of glass from the window cut his leg. Then, they dragged him out of the car and threw him on the ground, pinning him down, he said.
“I had one agent kneeling on my back and another one kneeling on my neck,” said Retes, who noted he had neck and back injuries from his four-year Army service." - AND that is how ICE treats American citizens. Imagine the horror they put innocent undocumenteds through.
"Agents took his fingerprints and photos. And when Retes asked why he was detained, the agents wouldn’t answer him, he recounted.
“They never told me anything … I sat there for hours asking them why I was here, why I’m being arrested, and no one could give me an answer,” Retes said. “No one even knew who arrested me or why they arrested me. No one knew what was going to happen to me or who I was even going to go with.”
I hope he sues Trump for 10 billion dollars.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/19/us/calif … orge-retesMany false claims have been made here about the so-called "mandate" Trump received from the voters.
The fact is that there was no "mandate". Saying that a president got a mandate from the electorate implies that he or she received WELL over 50% of the vote. The TRUTH is Trump received LESS THAN 50% of the vote.
That said, it was clear from the election that Trump voters had two main issues on their minds, all others weren't as relevant. According to a broad spectrum of polls Trump voters believed 1) Trump would lower prices soon after he was elected (84% of Trump voters) and 2) solve what they saw as an immigration and border security problem (82% of Trump voters). That is it!! I thought that ending the war in Ukraine would have scored high on the polls, but it didn't (43%)
So, how is Trump doing on those two mandates? Terrible it seems.
- Prices are going up, not down
- America does NOT LIKE the One Big Ugly Bill 61% to 29%
- America's overall immigration approval is at 41% (Trump’s lowest in his term).
- America does not like his military-style workplace raids - Only 28% approved and 54% disapproved.
- America now thinks Trump's deportations have "went too far"; 52% said so while 40% who said he hadn’t
Pretty poor showing, if you ask me.Bold Agenda Inflation Update:
Another week has passed and it keeps getting worse.
According to ChatGPT:
June CPI Data (Released July 15, 2025)
- Headline CPI rose 0.3% month-over-month (seasonally adjusted), up from +0.1% in May
Bureau of Labor Statistics
- Annual inflation climbed to 2.7%, up from 2.4% in May—the highest since February
Trading Economics
- Core CPI (excluding food and energy) rose 0.2% month-over-month and 2.9% year-over-year
Trading Economics
- Goods prices showed sharper increases: furniture, appliances, apparel all rose—likely driven by tariffs
Reuters
Market & Fed Signals
- Bond market indicators (5-year breakeven inflation rates) climbed to ~2.53%—a level signaling rising long-term inflation expectations
MarketWatch
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- The Fed’s Beige Book noted increasing price pressures in manufacturing and construction due to tariffs, which businesses are passing onto consumers
Reuters
- Fed Governor Adriana Kugler, along with other Fed officials, warned that tariff-induced inflation suggests holding rates steady, despite political pressure to cut
The Wall Street Journal
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What This Means
- Inflation is not accelerating drastically, but the rebound from 2.4% to 2.7% signals risk, especially with tariffs starting to bite.
- Core inflation remains elevated at 2.9%, above the Fed’s 2% target, indicating persistent underlying pressures.
- Tariffs are beginning to pass through, evidenced by rising costs for imported goods like apparel, furniture, and appliances—but impact is still moderate
New York Post
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- Markets and central bankers are watching closely, with rate cuts now unlikely before autumn.
On the Consumer Spending side, things are better, sort of.
Retail Sales Update (June 2025)
-Total retail & food services sales rose by 0.6% month-over-month in June, reversing two months of declines, and were 3.9% higher than June 2024
Bureau of Economic Analysis
- After excluding autos, gas, building materials, and restaurants, core retail sales also increased by 0.5% month-over-month
National Retail Federation
- E‑commerce and food service sales outperformed (+4.5% and +6.6% yearly), while electronics, appliances, and furniture saw small declines—likely due to tariff pressures
The Washington Post
.Judge rules Trump administration broke law in takedown of public funding tracker
A federal judge ruled the Trump administration violated federal law by taking down a public website that showed how funding is apportioned to federal agencies, ordering its reinstatement.
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled Monday that removal of the online database overseen by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) violated legislation passed by Congress, which requires the OMB to make apportionment decisions publicly available within two business days.
Congress required the OMB to implement an “automated system to post each document apportioning an appropriation” as part of a legislative funding deal signed into law in 2022. The office was also ordered to “operate and maintain” the automated system for “fiscal year 2023 and each fiscal year thereafter” in another funding bill that also became law that year.
But the website went dark earlier this year after the Trump administration said it could not continue to operate the system, arguing it contained sensitive information that could pose a threat to national security. In court, the administration contended the requirement to post the information is unconstitutional.
"There is nothing unconstitutional about Congress requiring the Executive Branch to inform the public of how it is apportioning the public’s money. Defendants are therefore required to stop violating the law!” Sullivan wrote in his 60-page opinion.
The Trump administration has faced bipartisan pressure to restore the apportionments database in recent months, as members on both sides have said the administration is required by law to operate the website.Deleted
The Trump administration’s transparency record has drawn sharp criticism across the political spectrum, and recent developments have only intensified scrutiny. Here’s a breakdown of the key concerns:
The following pattern suggests not just a lack of transparency, but an active resistance to oversight. I
Systemic Withholding of Information
• Federal Spending Obscured: The administration removed a public tracker mandated by Congress that showed how federal funds were apportioned. A judge ruled this violated federal law.
• Education Grants in Limbo: Over $6 billion in school funding was held up without explanation, leaving districts like Cleveland Heights scrambling.
• Incomplete Budget Disclosures: Agencies submitted spending plans riddled with gaps—like 530 asterisks in HHS’s budget where actual figures should have been.
Transparency Promises vs. Reality
• “Radical Transparency” Memo: Trump ordered agencies to disclose terminated contracts, but watchdogs found the data misleading and frequently edited without explanation.
• Visitor Logs & FOIA Requests: The White House stopped releasing visitor logs and rejected a record percentage of Freedom of Information Act requests.
• Press Access Eroded: Regular press briefings were halted, and transcripts of presidential remarks were removed from official websites.
Accountability Undermined
• Inspectors General Vacancies: Numerous watchdog positions remain unfilled, weakening oversight mechanisms.
• Congressional Oversight Blocked: Officials were barred from testifying, and subpoenas for business records were fought in court.
• Environmental Data Purged: Climate-related content was scrubbed from federal websites, prompting independent groups to archive lost data.The site is expensive and redundant. This site is a repeat of several other venues.
The info Is Available Elsewhere. The data shown on the Federal IT Dashboard (like federal IT investments, project statuses, budgets) can be found in other places, including:
Agency budget justifications
OMB’s Capital Planning and Investment Control (CPIC) submissions
USASpending.gov
Agency-level performance reports
FOIA-accessible federal IT logs
From a technical standpoint, the data itself isn’t unique, so I’m not sure if that’s why the site was taken down, but it seems likely. That may also be the argument the administration uses in court. I looked into the costs of running the site, and it was expensive. Trump campaigned on cutting bloated government spending, so this move aligns with that promise..
However, he should have gone to Congress with the issue of taking it down. They approved the money for the site."The site is expensive and redundant. This site is a repeat of several other venues." - REALLY? What are those other venues?
It is a fact that not only did Congress provide money for it, they ordered the site to exist in the first place! Congress wanted to prevent exactly what Trump is doing by ensuring a single point of information so as not to force everyone to locate multiple sites. I know this means nothing to Trump, but I would hope it meant something to you.
Add to that Rep Crowe (CO) was ILLEGALLY barred by ICE from entering a federal detention center in Colorado. This was in direct violation of a law Crowe had passed to prevent exactly what happened to him. Yet another Trump-sponsored crime!
Happy to see common sense rule over authoritarian opaqueness.
Isn't it just amazing how some simply cannot bring themselves to admit Trump broke the law regardless of how obvious. They always try to rationalize all his bad behavior - even his felony convictions and sexual abuse findings. What rational people do that? The only explanation is they belong to the MAUGA cult.
If the Court said Trump break the law, yes, Trump, break the law. He should go back to the statue quo ante.
If you run a red light in America, have you broken the law? In Nigeria, let's say you murder someone but no one saw it. Are you saying the murderer didn't break you law against murder?
So now you agree that a Court doesn't need to say Trump break the law before you can say he broke the law. That you can use your own two eyes and ears and your brain to come to a reasonable conclusion Trump broke the law.
I answer to the first sentense. Not the second. I've never attempted murder. Besides, your suggestion is evil intended. It's like you bold agenda to "destroyed" America!
Woot!
Trump's 'big, beautiful bill' is projected to add $3.4 trillion to the debt, budget office says
President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” which he signed into law this month, will add $3.4 trillion to the U.S. national debt over the next decade, according to a report the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office published Monday.
The report found that the law, which Republicans passed along party lines, will also “increase by 10 million the number of people without health insurance” by 2034.
The analysis found that the law’s net spending cuts of $1.1 trillion are outstripped by the $4.5 trillion in decreased revenue, compared with if the measure had not passed.I have to wonder how many of those 10 million will die as a result of losing their insurance for no reason (none of those 10 million are fraudulently enrolled, btw.)
Indigenous peoples arrived in North America from Asia, primarily through a combination of migration across the Bering Land Bridge (Beringia) and potentially by sea routes, with evidence suggesting settlements as far back as 30,000 years ago, predating the Last Glacial Maximum.
Also, America is a region, not a country. It is composed of North America and South America, of which both are continents.Also, America is a region, not a country. It is composed of North America and South America, of which both are continents.
This. Thank you.
https://youtu.be/GK87AKIPyZY?si=2C-C2ixkbeT3EQJ5
Trump's Bold Agenda STRIKES AGAIN.
GM loses another billion due to Trump.
[i]"Tariffs on imported cars and auto parts cost General Motors $1.1 billion in the second quarter, the nation’s largest automaker said Tuesday.
That hit to its bottom line was largely responsible for a 21% drop in net income for the period. The company said it expects tariffs to cost it between $4 billion to $5 billion by year’s end."[/b]
Exactly what MAUGA is hoping for.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/22/business/gm-tariff-hit"So now you agree that a Court doesn't need to say Trump break the law before you can say he broke the law. That you can use your own two eyes and ears and your brain to come to a reasonable conclusion Trump broke the law."
He's a convicted felon 30+ times over. Trump broke the law.
Nothing will ever change that.
And 77 million put him back in office. Nothing will ever change that either.Convicted of nothing... in a kangaroo court of wacko-NY that will ultimately be overturned and dismissed.
Nothing will ever change that... the politicization of the NY court system was seen by over 77 million people and that helped get him elected.
Probably more than 77 million... knowing how votes are 'counted' in States like NY and CA... we will never really know.They's nothing and yours can see good about President Donald Trump. And those 77 millions that voted him back into the Oval Office are not stupid and fools. Talk some sense about Trump.
Back to My threads subject --- A Bold Agenda to Reclaim America
Trump just struck a major trade deal with Japan that includes a $550 billion upfront investment fund aimed at boosting U.S. industries. Japan is pledging the money toward American infrastructure, semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, energy, and even defense shipbuilding. According to the terms, the U.S. keeps 90% of the return from those investments, Japan gets 10%.
In exchange, Trump agreed to a flat 15% tariff on most Japanese goods (instead of the higher 25–27.5% that was being considered), but steel and aluminum from Japan are still excluded and will face higher tariffs.
The deal also opens up Japanese markets to U.S. agriculture and manufacturing: they’ve committed to buying 100 Boeing planes, increasing rice imports, and making it easier for U.S. vehicles to be sold in Japan. Japanese automakers (like Toyota and Honda) benefit too, since their exports to the U.S. won’t be hit with steep tariffs.
This is being called a historic move to strengthen U.S. supply chains and industry, especially in areas that are key to national security. Trump is clearly bringing in outstanding investments into America.
What the US will derive from the deal... Our businesses will now be able to do more business with Japan without the high costs of the past tariff deals.
Agricultural Products: Tariffs on many U.S. agricultural exports have been either reduced or eliminated to match the levels Japan offers other major partners (such as under the CPTPP). This includes beef, pork, wheat, wine, dairy products, and more.
Industrial and Manufactured Goods: Most U.S. industrial goods will be exported to Japan tariff-free or with reduced tariffs over a staged period. This applies to items such as machinery, equipment, and some consumer products.
Automobiles and Auto Parts: Tariffs remain on U.S. autos, but Japan has agreed to ease certain non-tariff barriers that previously limited U.S. auto sales. No firm commitment to eliminate tariffs on U.S. vehicles has been announced yet.
Rice and Certain Sensitive Products: Japan maintains quotas and tariffs on some sensitive sectors like rice. However, it has agreed to specific import volumes from the U.S. under tariff-rate quotas (TRQs).
In summary, most U.S. goods now face either reduced tariffs or no tariffs when entering the Japanese market, particularly in agriculture and manufacturing. The exact tariff rates depend on the product category, with many phased reductions scheduled to continue through 2025–2028.
Yes—after studying the new U.S.–Japan trade deal, it’s clear that many U.S. businesses will benefit, and here’s why:
1. $550 Billion in Japanese Investment = Massive Growth Potential
Japan’s commitment to invest $550 billion upfront into U.S. industries gives American businesses direct access to capital in sectors like:
Semiconductors
Pharmaceuticals
Critical minerals
Energy infrastructure
Aerospace and defense
This isn’t just theory—Japan’s capital will be used to build facilities, fund R&D, and expand production, directly fueling American jobs and innovation.
2. Lower Tariffs = Stronger Exports
The deal reduces Japanese tariffs on U.S. goods to a flat 15% or less for most categories. This opens up more affordable access to the Japanese market for U.S. exporters—especially:
Agriculture: U.S. beef, pork, wheat, wine, dairy, and rice will now be far more competitive in Japan.
Manufacturing: U.S. machinery, medical devices, and industrial goods will enter with fewer restrictions and lower costs.
Autos and Trucks: While full tariff elimination didn’t happen yet, Japan agreed to accept U.S. safety standards, reducing red tape for American carmakers.
3. Guaranteed Purchases
The deal includes Japan agreeing to buy:
100 Boeing aircraft
$8 billion annually in U.S. agricultural and manufactured goods
A 75% increase in rice imports from the U.S.
This gives guaranteed demand for key American sectors and provides stable export markets that manufacturers and farmers can count on.
4. Reduced Barriers = Faster Sales
Beyond tariffs, non-tariff barriers (like regulatory delays, safety tests, and bureaucratic red tape) have been a huge obstacle. Japan now agrees to:
Accept U.S. auto safety testing (no need to retest in Japan)
Streamline agricultural inspections
Fast-track energy and infrastructure permits
This means less friction and faster time-to-market for U.S. companies.
5. Strategic Sectors Get a Competitive Edge
By directing Japanese investment into national-security-relevant industries—like chips, energy, and defense—Trump's deal helps American companies outcompete China and the EU in future-shaping industries.
Bottom Line:
Trump’s trade deal with Japan gives U.S. businesses:
New capital (from the $550B fund)
Easier access to a wealthy export market
Lower tariffs and fewer regulations
Locked-in purchases of American goods
A strategic edge in global competition
For American companies in agriculture, aviation, manufacturing, energy, or advanced tech—this deal is a win.Wasn't the previous tariff rate before Trump lower? So are we supposed to celebrate paying more for Japanese goods?
I was working on the second half of my comment. You may want to read the completed comment.
I suggest you take a look at the full deal, not just a snippet. The 15% tariff is only one part of a much broader, more strategic agreement. Trump is building on his promise to bring jobs back to America, expand manufacturing on our shores, and secure better tariff terms for U.S. businesses selling goods abroad. With Japan committing $550 billion in investments into key U.S. industries and opening its markets to American products, this deal clearly strengthens our economy. I’d bet the vast majority of American business owners are very pleased this morning.Shar,
From a business standpoint, this is a great deal.
The stock market is booming!
Investors are seeing the many benefits of these tariffs.
I have to laugh when the left, back in April, claimed the stock market crashed. It was all over their media. It was such a laugh. They had no idea how stupid they looked to us who deal with the stock market daily.
I can tell you that those who know business, know this is a great deal.
Others, oh well, nobody with any business knowledge or authority is paying any attention to them.I agree. From a business perspective, this deal brings exactly what markets thrive on: stability and predictability. The reduced tariff ceiling means companies can plan ahead with more confidence, and that's already showing up in the market.
You’re right about the stock market, anyone watching it closely could see the rebound coming. Back in April, when the media was screaming about a crash, those of us familiar with market cycles understood it was just a correction. The same people who panic every time the Dow drops 500 points clearly don’t grasp how capital flows or investor sentiment work.
This Japan deal reminds me of the 2019 USMCA shift. The media blasted it at first, but in hindsight, it streamlined North American trade and helped U.S. manufacturers tremendously. Same pattern here: experts saw the upside early, while political critics just saw headlines.
In business, perception without understanding is meaningless, and right now, smart investors are buying into the strength this deal signals.Market Cycles - ROFL.
Trump threatens steep tariffs - the market crashes.
Trump TACO's and the markets recover because they now don't believe anything Trump says - he ALWAYS reverses himself.
Aug 1 is a week away, wanna bet he TACOs again?
Did people vote to have higher prices on literally everything they touch? That is what Trump and his tariffs are doing. Since he took office, prices have continued to rise...
It's an oversimplification to say that people voted for higher prices on everything simply because of tariffs. Tariffs are one tool among many in economic policy, often used to protect domestic industries and jobs from unfair foreign competition. While tariffs can lead to price increases on some imported goods, they also encourage American manufacturing and can reduce dependence on foreign supply chains, which has broader benefits for national security and economic stability.
Moreover, inflation and rising prices have multiple causes beyond tariffs, including global supply chain disruptions, energy costs, labor shortages, and monetary policy decisions by the Federal Reserve. Since tariffs were implemented, there have been periods where inflation slowed or stabilized, indicating tariffs are not the sole driver of price increases.
Additionally, some tariffs have successfully prompted trade negotiations that aim to create fairer terms for American businesses and workers. The ultimate goal is to balance protecting domestic economic interests with keeping prices reasonable.
To say prices have simply “continued to rise” since the tariffs ignores the complexity of economic factors and the long-term benefits that strategic trade policies can bring. It’s important to evaluate all causes of inflation and understand the broader economic context rather than attributing rising prices solely to tariffs or any single policy.
I can only speak for myself, I voted for Trump to bring about change, one change being to negotiate better trade deals. Many, including Democrats, have been calling for this for decades. The status quo was not acceptable. I want our nation to move forward, and that takes some change, some real shake-ups.I asked AI if Trump has a real tariff trade deal with Japan. Here is the results.
Japan’s $550 billion investment pledge is real, but whether it fully materializes depends on several moving parts:
• Japan is already the largest foreign investor in the U.S., with $754 billion invested as of last year.
• The new $550 billion commitment is part of a strategic investment fund, reportedly directed by the U.S. government into sectors like semiconductors, shipbuilding, LNG, and pharmaceuticals.
• Japan’s negotiators proposed equity, credit guarantees, and funding for major U.S. projects.
• No formal structure has been announced for how the money will be deployed or governed.
• Experts are skeptical: Some call the 90% profit claim “fantastical” and warn it may be more political theater than economic reality.
• Japanese companies typically invest based on market returns, not presidential discretion. This deal flips that model.
What Could Go Wrong
• Legal and logistical hurdles: Directing foreign capital through U.S. agencies without congressional oversight could face pushback.
• Timing: Even if approved, large-scale industrial projects take years to launch—think of Toyota’s Kentucky plant, which took decades to scale.
• Transparency concerns: Critics worry about favoritism and lack of oversight in how funds are allocated.Mike. Almost missed your post--- Lots of long comments as of late.
Thank you for all the information, much of it leans toward clear facts, and I think you offered food for thought, too.
As always, Interesting points, and you’re right to highlight the uncertainty around execution. That said, there is a signed agreement between the U.S. and Japan on the tariff reductions, and Trump publicly announced the $550 billion investment pledge as part of that broader deal. Whether all the funds materialize is a valid concern, but that doesn't negate the significance of the commitment.
Yes, Japan has always invested heavily in the U.S., but this new pledge is unique in its scale and central coordination through a U.S.-directed strategic investment framework. That suggests more than just typical corporate-driven investment; it reflects a broader economic partnership, potentially state-backed.
Skeptics questioning the 90% profit claim are fair to do so, but the criticism seems focused more on optics than on the actual potential for joint industrial development. Japan did propose a mix of credit guarantees, equity, and funding, so it's not just hypothetical.
If critics are calling it political theater, I’d ask: at what point does a coordinated $550 billion pledge from our largest investor stop being theater and start being strategy?
Shar"That said, there is a signed agreement between the U.S. and Japan on the tariff reductions," - NO, there isn't, at least according to Japan.
Yes, Trump lied to you again and said they have a deal. They don't, only a framework.
Japanese officials have not confirmed a signed or legally binding treaty. They treat it as more of a framework or political agreement with unspecified details and unclear start dates
When will you stop believing what Trump says and do some of your own fact-checking?
Also, you might want to check on the veracity of his $550 billion investment claim. ChatGPT doesn't seem to think highly of it from what it can ascertain through it web searches. It says:
But tariffs is the only tool Trump know how to use.
I have searched but failed to find any documentation that shows the whole world has "unfair trade practices against the US" as you seem to suggest. I say the "whole world" since that is what Trump has attacked.
Do you have any solid examples of where that is true [u]in practice{/u] that required Trump to attack almost all nations?You voted for Trump to bring about change. I agree, he has done that, to the detriment of America.
Shar, your comment om this issue is well balanced in economic terms.
I know business and I, and virtually all other economists know is a very bad deal for both American and Japan.
Clearly, you don't deal with the stock market as much as I do, otherwise you wouldn't lie about the market NOT crashing in April. Just to clue you in the DOW was 44,544 on Jan 31, 2025; on Apr 4, 2025 it dropped 6,229 points (14%) to 38,315 (to some, I guess, that is just normal).
Because of Trump's TACOing, It took another 3.5 months to recover.
"In summary, most U.S. goods now face either reduced tariffs or no tariffs when entering the Japanese market, particularly in agriculture and manufacturing. The exact tariff rates depend on the product category, with many phased reductions scheduled to continue through 2025–2028.
And how is this a good deal for Americans to pay more for goods that come into this country? Trump has us paying more, at every turn, for everything coming into this country.... People think this is great? This Administration has negotiated a deal with Japan that sticks the American consumer with higher costs....And how is this a good deal for Americans to pay more for goods that come into this country? Trump has us paying more, at every turn, for everything coming into this country.... People think this is great? This Administration has negotiated a deal with Japan that sticks the American consumer with higher costs...." Willow
It is very clear you do not understand the benefits of this tariff deal. Products like electronics, auto parts, appliances, and machinery imported from Japan will now face a lower 15% tariff instead of the previously threatened 25–27.5%.
That means importers and retailers pay less, and some of those savings can be passed on to U.S. consumers through lower retail prices or better product availability.
Automobiles and tech components
Japanese cars and parts might not get much cheaper right away (because the steel and aluminum tariffs still apply), but over time, supply chains may adjust, making certain car models, electronics, and hybrid tech more affordable.
Competitive pressure
Lower tariffs on Japanese goods increase competition. That can force U.S. manufacturers or other foreign competitors to lower their prices to stay competitive.
You may want to do some research on how tariffs work. The lower the tariff, the less one pays for imported goods.
when the U.S. charges lower tariffs on goods imported from Japan, it becomes less expensive for U.S. companies to bring those products in, which can lead to lower prices for American consumers.
Here’s how it works in simple terms:
Before the deal: A Japanese product might have faced a 25–27.5% import tariff, which means U.S. importers had to pay a big tax on top of the product’s price. That extra cost often gets passed down to the consumer.
Now (after the deal): The tariff is capped at 15%, so importers pay less in taxes, which reduces the overall cost of the product in the U.S.
This deal shows a great give-and-take solution that is a win-win for the US.The Japanese trade agreement represents a minimum 13% increase that will be passed on to consumers with virtually no benefit to any American industries ... if anything, there will be price increases passed on to consumers. Another dud, another loser for America.
Yes! I feel the same way. Trump is making strong moves to turn the economy around and sticking to many of the promises he made. I can see why some people are upset about his success; no one enjoys watching the other side win. But the results speak for themselves: it’s clear he’s doing a great job.
Previously, the average tariff rate on American imports of Japanese goods was less than 2 %, according to the WB data. In other words, Trump's "deal" amounts to roughly a 650 % tax increase on those imports. Those taxes, like all tariffs, will be paid by Americans‘....
How is he convincing people this is a great deal LOL???
The new Japanese trade agreement represents a minimum 13% increase that will be passed on to consumers with virtually no benefit to any American industries ... if anything, there will be price increases passed on to consumers. Another dud, another loser for America.Your source is biased and very flawed. The idea that Trump’s deal results in a “650% tax increase” based on an average 2% tariff on Japanese imports is misleading. While some Japanese goods do enter the U.S. with very low tariffs,often under 2%, this only applies to select products like certain electronics and machinery. In reality, many other Japanese exports face much higher tariffs, such as automobiles at 2.5%, steel and aluminum at 25% and 10% respectively, and some agricultural and industrial products with tariffs were at 30%. The new trade agreement caps many of these tariffs at 15% or lower and includes a massive $550 billion investment commitment from Japan into U.S. industries. Before the deal, higher tariffs were being considered, so this agreement actually avoids potential tariff escalation. While tariffs are paid by importers, how much of that cost reaches American consumers depends on market competition and supply chains. Overall, the deal balances tariff adjustments with investment and market access, providing clear benefits rather than simply imposing a steep tax increase. Trump is building solid deals that will benefit America by bringing in investments and ultimately more jobs, better, more prosperous businesses. No stagnation will occur under Trump. The country will come back, and quickly.
There is no need to convince anyone; most will see the growth and enjoy the benefits of the growth we will see in our economy. Stats will quickly mirror America's growth.Trump's "deal" means increased costs to the American consumer of Japanese goods there is no way around it. No ifs ands or buts.... He increased tariffs on goods coming into this country... We pay those costs.
If it brings more manufacturing back to the country and cuts the need for welfare to workers, does that count as a "cost" or do we just pretend it won't/didn't happen?
hate to tell you this but manufacturing is not coming back.
Americans don’t want to work in a sweatshop or assembly line for poor wages.
Americans also don’t want to pay inflated prices for goods which can be made cheaper overseas.
This is why Trump’s tariffs will fail.It already is. Maybe do some research. In about six months, I expect we’ll see impressive economic data roll in. We’re not talking sweatshops, we’re talking high-quality jobs in tech and innovation. Trump is laser-focused on making America a global leader in innovation and cutting-edge technology. It’s clear you’re not following where the investments are being made, and judging by your predictions, this really bothers you.
In my view, many Americans want to see jobs return and the country become more prosperous. They don’t accept the idea of America falling behind, becoming a nation content with handouts, or moving backward instead of forward. Most aren’t hand-wringers; they’re ready to work and build a better future.Thus far Trump's tariffs have been a failure. There are no tangible results to point to whatsoever... Unless one counts higher prices passed on to consumers as an achievement.
The Left will never give President Trump, a heads up in whatever good he does for the USA. All they think and see is a fail, full circle. The Left are indeed terrible and awful.
Is it his misogyny you love? Maybe it is his abuse of Blacks. Or could it be his xenophobia? How about his psychopathic lying?
Convicted of murder in Venezuela. Freed by the Trump administration
It’s been nearly a week since Dahud Hanid Ortíz, sentenced by a Venezuelan court to 30 years in prison for a gruesome triple murder, was last seen publicly — grinning triumphantly as he arrived in Texas, having been freed through an expansive deal brokered at the behest of President Donald Trump.
Since then, as the disturbing details of Hanid Ortíz’s past have come to light, the Trump administration has refused to disclose his whereabouts or explain why a convicted killer was included in a prisoner swap touted by the White House as fulfillment of Trump’s promise to liberate Americans wrongfully detained abroad.
A person with knowledge of the case said that Hanid Ortíz was in the United States and not being detained. This person, like some others interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter.
The imbroglio has angered the governments of Spain, where Hanid Ortíz was investigated for the 2016 killings, according to court documents, and Germany, which helped the Spanish authorities in the inquiry. The dearth of information being shared from Washington also is sowing fear among the victims’ families, who say they are terrified at the prospect that he is walking free.
“The United States has been completely silent, not giving information to anyone,” Victor Joel Salas Coveñas, a lawyer in Spain who was targeted by Hanid Ortíz in the 2016 plot, told The Washington Post on Thursday. “At this moment, no one knows Dahud’s whereabouts. So the fear is real, isn’t it? Of course.”
Hanid Ortíz, 54, had been left behind on previous swaps brokered by both the Trump and Biden administrations, said a U.S. official with knowledge of internal discussions in the wake of his release.
The administration’s suspected failure to properly vet Hanid Ortíz before allowing him to board the Gulfstream jet that left Caracas for Texas on July 18 also has caused a rift within the State Department, which led the negotiations central to last week’s prisoner swap. The U.S. official acknowledged that Hanid Ortíz’s inclusion in the release was “ruffling a lot of feathers” at the department because the dual U.S.-Venezuelan citizen was never on lists of Americans whom the Trump administration sought from Venezuelan authorities.
“It seems like no one was checking closely,” said the official.
Spokespeople for the State Department and White House have cited “privacy reasons” for refusing to address the growing maelstrom surrounding Hanid Ortíz’s release. In response to questions, administration officials issued a statement saying, “The United States had the opportunity to secure the release of all Americans detained in Venezuela, many of whom reported being subjected to torture and other harsh conditions.”
Diosdado Cabello, Venezuela’s interior minister, said Wednesday night on his weekly broadcast that the Venezuelan government had warned U.S. officials at the airport that they were “taking away a convicted murderer.”
“The United States defended their murderer and asked for him to be included,” Cabello alleged.
Efforts to speak with Hanid Ortíz’s family in the United States have been unsuccessful.
The questions surrounding Hanid Ortíz have overshadowed what otherwise was seen in Washington as a significant foreign policy win by the administration. He was among a group of 10 U.S. citizens and permanent residents released by Venezuela. The deal also sent to Venezuela more than 250 Venezuelan nationals who had been deported by the United States to a megaprison in El Salvador as part of Trump’s aggressive immigration crackdown.
The Trump administration has not identified the Americans released in the deal, though it has acknowledged that eight of the 10 had been classified as “wrongfully detained” by the State Department. That designation enables use of government resources to help free U.S. people it believes should not be imprisoned abroad.
Those classified as “wrongfully detained” are offered support services upon their return at the Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio. Two U.S. officials said that Hanid Ortíz was not offered these services.
And that’s where the trail runs cold.
Hanid Ortíz was last seen publicly as he waved to the news media in San Antonio after arriving with the other released prisoners. His presence among the group was first detected by media outlets in Spain.
He did not get off the plane during a brief stop in El Salvador, said the U.S. official. There, some of the other prisoners met with the country’s president, Nayib Bukele, a key Trump ally, this person said.
According to court records, Hanid Ortíz had been living in Germany when he came to suspect his wife was having a relationship with Salas Coveñas, the attorney in Madrid. The court found that Hanid Ortíz traveled to Spain to take revenge on the lawyer, concealing his visit by recruiting a friend to pretend to be him at home so he had an alibi.
When he arrived at Salas Coveñas’s law office, Hanid Ortíz asked two employees to contact the lawyer, saying he was exploring a lucrative business deal, court records show. The two women were killed with a knife and a blunt object before the slaying of a man who arrived at the law office to pick up some documents, an apparent instance of mistaken identity, the court records say.
The court found that Hanid Ortíz then set fire to the law office in a bid to hide the crime. It was his accomplice in Germany who revealed the plot to authorities, court record say. The court documents also show that Hanid Ortíz admitted to the crime in emails to his sister-in-law.
“I did horrible things without wanting to, or whatever. Believe me, people lose their minds — I did,” he wrote in one email contained in the court records documenting his prosecution and conviction.
Hanid Ortíz was arrested after fleeing to Venezuela in 2018, court records show. He was in possession of three national identity cards, one in his name and two bearing other names, according to the court records.
Venezuela’s constitution bars extradition of citizens, so instead he was tried in a Venezuelan court with Spanish and German officials supplying evidence. He was convicted and sentenced last year.
Though born in Venezuela, court records show that Hanid Ortíz served in the U.S. Army for more than 17 years and became a U.S. citizen. He moved with the Army to Germany, where court documents show he was court-martialed and convicted of using a fraudulent address in New York City to claim housing allowances for his family, who had moved with him overseas.
His release back to the United States has caught senior government officials in Spain and Germany completely caught off guard, according to the U.S. official familiar with discussions about Hanid Ortíz occurring at the State Department.
Salas Coveñas, the Spanish lawyer, said he was first contacted Sunday by German police. They told him Hanid Ortíz was at a military base in Texas and that it was “very likely he would be released,” Salas Coveñas said.
“The only thing we know for sure is that he got off the plane; a camera caught him laughing,” he added. “Obviously, he is mocking the entire American, European and Venezuelan judicial systems.”
(I know it's long, sorry. But there's a paywall. Worth reading, though.)Well that should make you happy... after all we shouldn't be putting anyone behind bars or deporting them just because of a crime they may have committed.
Yup, it was worth reading while sipping my morning coffee. All I can say at this time is that the absurd is much more common place today or so it seems. I don't know about others, but I seek meaning while assuring myself to responsibly be 'aware'. As perspective recently using a telescope has brought to me more awareness than the microscope.
And here I thought Trump, a fellow felon, was opposed to dumping murderers and rapists into America's interior. I guess I was wrong.
The Japan non-deal (it is still just a framework) is a disaster.
BEFORE
US tariffs on Japan - 2.5% on almost all things
Japanese tariffs on US - 0% to 10% with zero being the most common.
Now
US tariffs of Japan - 15%
Japanese tariffs on US - 15% plus a $500 billion investment they would have done anyway.
Result of "Deal"
US Consumers: HIGHER Prices on anything imported from Japan or the US. For American consumers, this will be about a $2,000 annual increase.
US Businesses: LOWER profits and less sales from 2024 levels.
US Gov't: HIGHER revenue from taxes on US Businesses.
Only MAUGA will see this as a win. The rest of us understand Trump made things MUCH WORSE.Trump's Bold Agenda is costing the taxpayers a ton of money - talk about Fraud, Waste, and Abuse, the "Agenda" is all three.
Fired DOJ employees sue Trump administration for "unlawful" dismissals
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ … s-07-25-25Rather sad, isn't it, that liberals have managed to make it illegal to lay off federal employees. Once hired, hired for life whether needed or not.
It does not take a lot of intelligence to understand that no job should be at the desire of the employer, without regard to need, but they do not appear to have even that little bit.It is very sad.
I'm certain none of these liberals have ever had to meet a payroll. They believe they should be immune from market conditions. It's not easy to let workers go, but there are times when it is the only way for a company to survive.
That rule should also apply to the federal government.This liberal does, about $1.2 million a year in payroll. How about you conservatives.
And by the way, I’ve had a federal employee removed — the right way. All it took was solid documentation of her violating the rules. She hadn’t counted on that.
BTW, That comment is not only dismissive but completely misrepresents the issue at hand.
This isn't about liberals not understanding business — it's about government employees with statutory protections being terminated without proper cause or due process, which is illegal, not just “unfortunate.”
The Department of Justice is not a private company. Federal employees, particularly in civil service roles, are not subject to at-will employment laws. Their jobs are protected under merit-based rules precisely to prevent political or ideological purges and to promote a stable, nonpartisan professional workforce.
“Meeting payroll” or “market conditions” has nothing to do with this case. These DOJ staffers weren’t fired due to financial hardship, restructuring, or performance reviews. They were removed without cause, raising serious questions about potential political retaliation — something federal law and civil service protections are designed to prevent.
In a functioning democracy, no administration should be able to fire career civil servants simply for doing their jobs or holding views that don’t align with the White House. That’s not about being liberal — it’s about protecting the rule of law and ensuring government accountability.
If we normalize this kind of behavior, we open the door to authoritarian practices where only the loyalists keep their jobs. That’s not a business model — that’s a threat to democracy.
I know you are being sarcastic since what you said is not even close to being true.
Japan says there is NO WRITTEN OR BINDING TRADE DEAL WITH TRUMP AND DENIES GIVING HIM $550B “UP FRONT”
Japanese officials said there was no written agreement with Washington — and no legally binding one would be drawn up — after Trump administration officials claimed Tokyo would back investments in the US from which American taxpayers would reap nine-tenths of the profits.
And this gem... Azakawa (Chief Negotiator) for Japan said this "Had no discussion with US officials about how to implement the deal yet and I am not thinking about signing a legally binding agreement at this moment"
What a bunch of BS..There is no deal as Japan has been very careful to point out.
Why does Trump keep trying these stunts that are so easy to disprove? Does he think ya’ll are dumber than a sack of bricks?
Cracks widen in Japan and US’s interpretation of tariff trade deal https://share.google/LX49TW0vtRD4D6GZLAnd why do those defending Trump keep believing his lies?
Looks like Trump's Bold Agenda which is failing using objective analysis, Americans aren't taking too kindly to it either as this disaster continues to unfold.
* RCP shows Trump with the highest (52.4%) Disapproval rating since he took office again and almost the lowest (45.4%) approval rating as well.
* Gallup shows his support among Independents is eroding quickly having fallen 17 points. Even support among Republicans is on a slight decline, falling 4 points since his Feb high
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692879/ind … m-low.aspx
* Unlike Biden's low approval where if asked about individual topics where he scored much better, Trump is doing Worse.
* Russia - Ukraine: 38.4 - 54.3. Remember he promised to end the war before he took office?
* Inflation: 39.4 - 59.3. I guess increasing inflation because of his Bold Agenda tariff program isn't setting well with the public.
* Economy: 42.3 - 54.8. He promised to make a good economy great. Instead, people have noticed his Bold Agenda is making it worse.
* Foreign Policy: 43.3 - 53.8. Trump just failed again to get a cease fire in Gaza. Putin has made Trump look like a fool. Trump hasn't completed even ONE "Deal" and for those where he secured verbal "frameworks" they have left things the way they were or made things worse for America.
* Immigration: 45.3 - 52.1. His signature promise and people are not liking his draconian, inhume, economy destroying methods.
While a majority of Americans think Trump is doing terrible, at least he is doing it strongly, the think MAUGA admires most about this felon.More Harmful fallout from Trump's so-called "Bold Agenda" that will make American sicker again.
"WSJ: Kennedy expected to dismiss expert panel on preventive care"
Everybody is wondering how many Americans the Trump-Kennedy team is going to kill.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/25/health/k … uspstf-hhsPart of Trump's "Bold Agenda"
'It's a type of torture': Hear what it's like inside 'Alligator Alcatraz'
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/25/politics … rez-digvidTotally in Keeping with Trump's Racism.
Top State Dept. official who once attended conference with White nationalists picked to lead US Institute of Peace
The next Democratic president will spend most of his or her time cleaning out gov't of these fascists.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/26/politics … e-of-peaceMore negative fallout from the "Bold Agenda"
"A heartbreaking economic indicator: More people are giving up their pets"
In Melissa Knicely’s nearly 19 years at a North Carolina animal shelter, she’s learned to spot an unofficial and heart-wrenching sign that the economy may be taking a turn for the worse: When there’s a surge in the number of people looking to give up their pets.
That happened in the late 2000s, as the pain from the financial crisis spread; at other times when waves of layoffs hit the region; and, more recently, when inflation spiked.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/27/economy/ … rs-economyInteresting! Another bell weather economic indicator to keep an eye on is the pizza market both store bought (Store bought being a pizzeria) and frozen as well as their relationship. Though it may not be applicable for all areas, here in the San Diego county area the fastest growth of the homeless is with senior citizens. One thing that they have going for them is living in their cars. However, that is a challenge today for where to park overnight.
You made me look:
Rule of Thumb:
When a large cheese pizza costs more than an hour of minimum-wage work, consumer purchasing power is declining. With minimum wages ranging from $11 to $16.50 /hr, and pizza prices rising sharply, that ratio may now be well above 1:1—a stress signal for low-income households.
Domino’s Same‑Store Sales & Consumer Behavior – Spending Resilience?
In Q1 2025, U.S. same-store sales dropped 0.5%, especially in delivery orders, as budget-conscious consumers opted for carry-out over tipping-heavy deliveries
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In Q2 (ending mid-June), Domino’s U.S. same-store sales rebounded by 3.4%, surpassing forecasts (consensus ~2.2%). International sales rose 2.4%
However, U.S. gross margins dropped by about 2% due to rising ingredient costs—even as sales volume ticked up
Interpretation:
The bounce in same-store growth shows some resilience—consumers still buying pizza amid inflation.
But delivery declines and margin compression suggest consumers are cost-sensitive and margins are tightening for operators.
More signs Trump's so-called Bold Agenda is making things worse. From ChatGPT:
Is the U.S. Economy Getting Fragile? (As of June 2025, Inflation-Adjusted)
While headlines might suggest the economy is doing okay, a closer look at inflation-adjusted data shows it’s starting to look shaky. Here are the key warning signs as of June 2025:
1. The Economy Shrunk at the Start of the Year
- From January to March 2025, the U.S. economy actually shrank by 0.5%, even after adjusting for inflation.
- The second quarter (April to June) looks a little better, but not great. Growth is expected to be about 1.5% to 2.4%, depending on who you ask. That’s far from strong and may be artificially boosted by businesses stockpiling goods before Trump’s new tariffs hit.
2. People Are Spending Less and Earning Less (in Real Terms)
- From April to May, spending dropped 0.3% after adjusting for inflation. That means people bought less, not just paid more. (June data not in yet)
- Real (inflation-adjusted) take-home income also dropped 0.7% in May—one of the biggest drops in years.
- We don’t yet have the official numbers for June, but early signs suggest only a tiny bounce back—if any.
[u]3. Job Market Starting to Crack
- In June, private-sector jobs fell by about 33,000—the first drop since 2023.
- More than 2 million people are now receiving unemployment benefits, and the average time it takes to find a new job is going up.
- Wages aren't keeping up with inflation, especially for lower- and middle-income workers.
4. Early Warning Signals Are Flashing
- A key economic forecast tool called the Leading Economic Index dropped again in June. It’s been falling for most of the past year and a half.
- Historically, drops like this often signal a recession is coming within 6 to 12 months.
5. Confidence Is Falling Fast
- A major consumer confidence survey dropped to its lowest level since 2020.
- One part of that survey, called the Expectations Index, fell to 69. When it falls below 70, it often means people are bracing for a recession.
- People also think inflation will rise again, expecting prices to go up 5.1% over the next year.
6. Tariffs Are Making Things Worse
- Trump’s global tariffs in 2025 are already raising costs for imports, which pushes prices higher for consumers.
- This limits the Federal Reserve’s ability to fight any slowdown, because inflation is still above its 2% target.
7. Signs of “Stagflation” (Just as I predicted)
- That’s the dreaded combo of slow growth + rising inflation.
- Big banks like JPMorgan and EY now say there’s a good chance the U.S. enters a stagflation period later this year.
- It’s hard to fix because lowering inflation usually slows growth—and vice versa.
8. Stock Market Looks Out of Touch
- The stock market is still high, mostly thanks to excitement around AI.
- But under the surface, profits are slowing, and the real economy is struggling.
- Some analysts warn the market could fall fast if economic data keeps getting worse.
Summary Table (June 2025 Status)
What’s Happening Why It’s a Red Flag
Economy shrank in early 2025 Growth momentum is weak
Spending dropped in May People are cutting back
Incomes fell after inflation Less real money to spend
Job growth stalled Layoffs increasing, hiring slowing
Confidence is dropping People fear recession and higher prices
Inflation fears rising Tariffs and wages may push prices up again
Recession signals flashing Indexes that predict trouble are trending down
Stock market looks overconfident May crash if bad news continues
Final Thought
Even though the economy hasn’t crashed, it’s showing more and more signs of stress—especially for everyday Americans. With prices still high, incomes struggling, job losses picking up, and confidence falling, the second half of 2025 looks uncertain. We’re not in a recession yet, but the red flags are piling up.BREAKING: Trump announced a trade deal with the EU. All goods (over $600B in 2024) imported to the U.S. will be hit with a 15% tax (tariff)... It was previously 2.5%.
Another awful "deal" that will drive up inflation....Here is a much more ChatGPT generated analysis of this terrible Bold Agenda deal that is not really a deal where the bottom line is Trump keeps making it worse for America and Americans
How Trump’s New Trade Deals with the EU and Japan Could Hurt Americans More Than Help
President Trump recently announced new trade deals with both the European Union and Japan. His team is calling them major wins for America. But let’s set aside the drama and the threats from earlier in 2025 and just compare the old rules (as of Dec. 31, 2024) to the new rules announced in July 2025.
When we do, a different picture emerges—one that shows Americans will pay more, businesses will earn less, and the economy gets more fragile.
Daily Bold Agenda Update:
Trump has zero out of approximately 200 tariff deals he promised to make by now. He has made six frameworks. But, if they go through as announced, here is the NEGATIVE impact on America:
- The combined tariff framework—from the EU, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, and other trade partners—has already imposed a hidden tax on goods equal to $100B+ annually.
- U.S. households are effectively paying $1,700–$3,800 more a year
- All tariffs to date have lowered 2025 GDP by 0.9 percentage points, and long-term GDP by 0.6%—equivalent to ~$160 billion annually in lost output .
- Consumer-facing sectors like apparel, electronics, food, and autos face rising prices—especially clothing, where tariffs pushed prices up 17% or more
- Analysts at Goldman Sachs estimate 70% of tariff costs are passed to consumers; businesses currently absorb ~30% but squeeze profits as inventories run down
- GM’s profits, as an example, fell by over 34% in Q2, hit by $1.1 billion in tariffs, with annualized losses up to $5B projected. Stellantis cited $350M in costs
- On average business profits are expected to be reduced ~2–5%
- Jobs are also effected, up to ~770,000 jobs lost by year-end with the current set of tariff frameworks
- These effects are nontrivial and risk slowing the economy further. The pressure is mounting on living standards and the outlook for consumers remains fragile.
- Despite promises about trade framework deals offsetting damage, the economic reality is negative—especially for lower-income Americans and domestic companies reliant on imports.
BOTTOM LINE - Trump is Raising prices, not lowering them has he promised you.Back to the focus of this thread — Trump’s Bold Agenda. He’s following through on his promise to reshape the global trade playing field, and the results are catching the attention of economists who are giving real praise. So instead of listening to noise, let’s look to the pros for insight. Honestly, that seems like the smart move.
A lot of top analysts are genuinely upbeat about Trump’s new trade deals, especially with Japan and now the preliminary one with the EU. Stephen Gallagher from Société Générale called the Japan agreement “a strong reset,” saying it removes a ton of uncertainty and shows that Trump’s team can strike serious, enforceable deals. Even Mark Zandi at Moody’s — not usually a Trump fan, admitted it will boost U.S. manufacturing and help tame inflation by keeping imports flowing. Over at Evercore ISI, they’re saying the Japan deal is a “smart compromise” and sets a solid template for talks with other partners. Now, with the EU deal coming into play, analysts like Prashant Newnaha from TD Securities are calling it “a big win,” especially since it locked in key European purchases of U.S. energy and defense goods while avoiding a full-blown tariff war. Experts at the Atlantic Council say it brings long-term clarity and proves Trump’s approach, tough tariffs combined with high-stakes investment pressure, is working across the board.
Markets reacted big time: stocks jumped, bond yields slipped, and futures climbed, showing investor confidence is on the rise. All in all, these deals are being seen not as reckless moves, but as strategic plays that stabilize global trade, protect American interests, and show Trump’s still got negotiating power when it counts.
I am sure that with the deadline looming, we will see many more trade deals happen.All and all you're just talking to bricks in the wall...
All and all you're just talking to bricks in the wall....
If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?
You! (if you don't eat yer meat)
Yes, you behind the bike stands (you can't have any pudding)
(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?)Again it is interesting to see the 180 some of the Trump followers have done in terms of the financial burdens corporations and corporate America should carry.
Remember When folks here told us that raising corporate taxes would be such a terrible idea? Remember how folks told us that corporations would fire workers If It ultimately meant protecting their bottom line? That, if anything, we needed to lower corporate taxes and make things easier for them... gasp, they may just pick up shop in move elsewhere, right? That's been the mantra...
But it seems like many of you now are telling us it's okay to expect that the corporations take a hit to the bottom line due to tariffs? Won't they fire people? Will they pick up and go elsewhere?
Seems like a whole lot of contradiction.... Please, tell us how corporations having an increased tax rate is any different than expecting they absorb tariff costs LOL???
Just a whole lot of flip floppingNot contradiction, just said that under the threat of Biden making the rich pay for the poor BS...
What? You’ve got it all upside down — that take was about Biden’s tax plan, not this. I remember exactly when I made that point. Now we’ve got a new guy in town, someone who’s slashing stifling regulations, bringing in real investment, and making trade fair — something big money actually welcomes. Look at GM — I’ve shared their recent statement multiple times. After their last quarter loss, they made it clear they’re fully behind the new direction. They’re not about to repeat themselves for no reason. Big money loves Trump! And so do I. He is on a roll, and there is no stopping him now.
"Seems like a whole lot of contradiction.... Please, tell us how corporations having an increased tax rate is any different than expecting they absorb tariff costs LOL???" willow
Maybe have a look back on Biden's proposed tax plan on business and the rich --- with Trump, they see big times ahead, and we have no idea how companies will handle the new tariffs. That will be a wait-and-see --- thus far they seem content with Trump--- the soring market reflex that. They may be very content to lower prices due to getting so many regulations cut.This has nothing to do with Biden.
We can go back and look at the posts of many on this forum railing against a corporate tax increase.
Yet now, the same folks think it's perfectly okay for the corporation to be made to pay more to do business by way of tariff....
It's a complete contradiction and everything that has been posted previously supports that statement.
Lol it is now okay to cut into the profits of business... Why? Oh because dear leader says so...
Bottom line? You're cutting into profits and yes corporations are going to react. They're going to pass on higher costs or they're going to ax people.... Just like MANY have said before.
The waffling on this forum is EPICOh really --- "Remember When folks here told us that raising corporate taxes would be such a terrible idea? Remember how folks told us that corporations would fire workers If It ultimately meant protecting their bottom line? That, if anything, we needed to lower corporate taxes and make things easier for them... gasp, they may just pick up shop in move elsewhere, right? That's been the mantra..." willow
These sentiments were shared under Biden. I suggest you have a look at his proposed tax plan on businesses and the rich... The Tariffs, in most cases, are a blessing to the rich... LOL You never consider all the facts, the other side of the coin, if it does not suit your narrative.
The bottom line is that the Trump tariffs will cut into profits less than old Joe's tax plan. And it's fair you predict, and share your view. I see great times ahead for big businesses, for all Americans. Stats will indicate our economy, and I see some great ones coming in the next two years."These sentiments were shared under Biden. I suggest you have a look at his proposed tax plan on businesses and the rich...
And your sentiments have changed since? it is Trump essentially implementing a tax, by way of tariff on corporations? Let me get this straight, when anyone else wants to cut into corporate profits it's wrong and all hell is going to break loose but when Trump does it it's fantastic... Employees won't lose their jobs and corporations won't move away as we can see many have stated in the past..?
The flip-flopping is epicI thought I had fully explained my point. I support much tariffs and recognize the significant advantage big businesses gain from being freed from overregulation, and high taxes They're the big winners here. There's no indication that Trump plans to cut into corporate profits—in fact, under his policies, corporations now pay less in taxes and save money thanks to fewer costly regulations. Have you even compared what Biden wanted to charge corporations in taxes? Your argument just doesn’t add up. Under Trump, taxes have been lowered, and expensive, burdensome regulations have been eliminated. Tariffs remain, yes, but for the most part, they’re about the same or slightly higher in some cases I honestly don’t understand why you think big business isn’t thriving under these conditions. And there is no indication of rising prices as of yet. No one can predict what will happen regarding consumer prices. But one can say, as of now, factually, corporations as well as small businesses are paying lower taxes, and factually not burdened by regulations that cost them. I mean, it is time you looked back on what Biden proposed in the way of taxes, and he kept all regulations in place --- do the simple math. Businesses are doing far better under Trump. We need big business to keep this country solvent. I have come to realize some feel all we need is flowers and love--- but, and a great big printing press. But that is not what will keep our standard of living in America.
The end result of tariffs, on corporations, is the same as a corporate tax hike.
Actually, no, I don't remember any of that.
While you see great ones coming in the next two years, Willowarbor, me, and the rest of us see 10 million people losing their heath insurance and not a one of them from fraud!
I don't think GM's CEO will keep her job much longer if she thinks the outcome is a good thing.
Financial Impact
GM reported a $1.1 billion reduction in second-quarter operating income, attributing it directly to the new 25% tariffs applied to imported vehicles and parts. [bThis reflects a 32% year-over-year core profit drop[/b] accounting for about one-third of GM’s profit margin in the period
The company expects the annual tariff-related cost to reach $4–5 billion in 2025, which could significantly suppress profitability unless mitigated by operational adjustments
Now CEO Mary Barra may not care about such loses but her shareholders certainly will. It is time to short GM.
I notices your questions are going unanswered.
That is a great piece of political messaging but overlooks many things.
It’s true Trump pushing forward aggressively, but if we’re listening to the experts, the picture is more complicated and damaging than the spin suggests.
Yes, some analysts have praised parts of the Japan and EU deals — but those same economists, including Zandi and Gallagher, have also warned about the cumulative damage from the broader tariff framework.
Let’s not forget: Trump has slapped new tariffs on over 70% of U.S. imports in 2025, with projected and actual price hikes on consumer goods ranging from electronics to groceries. The Tax Foundation estimates the average American household will pay at least $1,200 to $1,500 more annually if all the 2025 tariffs remain in effect.
Mark Zandi of Moody’s did say the Japan deal could support U.S. manufacturing — but he’s also been blunt that the larger tariff environment will raise inflation, suppress business investment, and shave 0.5 to 1.0 percentage points off GDP growth by the end of 2025. Even the American Chamber of Commerce in Japan expressed concern that while the agreement avoids chaos, it doesn’t undo much of the friction created earlier by Trump’s tariff push.
As for the EU framework — yes, locking in energy exports is a smart play, but European officials have made it clear this was a compromise under duress, not an endorsement of the strategy nor is it cemented in concrete, the various EU nations must agree. The EU was responding to threats of expanded auto tariffs, and some trade ministers warned it sets a dangerous precedent: giving in to economic coercion instead of rules-based negotiation.
The IMF, the World Trade Organization, and the Peterson Institute for International Economics have all raised red flags. Their data shows that by mid-2025:
U.S. goods exports declined by 4.2% due to retaliatory measures
Investment growth stalled in tariff-sensitive sectors like manufacturing and logistics
Small businesses have been disproportionately hit by supply chain cost spikes
And while stock markets have moved, let’s be honest — that’s been largely tied to Fed rate guidance and earnings, not Trump’s trade deals. In fact, bond yields fell not because of investor confidence in trade policy, but because of concerns about slowing economic growth and softer inflation readings.
Bottom line: There are pieces of Trump’s trade push that are strategic — but we shouldn’t confuse selective wins with broad-based economic success. A smart trade strategy isn’t about bluster or leverage alone. It’s about balancing enforcement with long-term predictability, something most economists — not a few quoted analysts — say Trump’s approach still lacks.
Let’s keep it grounded in facts and provide the full context, not just fanfare.
I don't know if he is just not very bright or if he's just a bullshitter or they send him out there totally unprepared...
Fact checking Trump's blather this morning on trade with Europe...
Claim... "we don't sell cars into Europe"
Fact... Cars are the 8th most imported category from the US
Claim... "We don't sell essentially agriculture to any great degree"
Fact... US exports to the EU hit a record 12.8 billion last year...
Claim..."European countries, I think I could say, were essentially closed"
Fact... They purchased $400 billion worth of goods last year.I think it is all three, Willowarbor. He is just an extremely effective Con Man. How else could he get 78 million people to take him seriously.
Conservatives are celebrating this tariff deal like Donald Trump just cured cancer. In reality, Americans are going to pay 15% more on everything we import from Europe. It's just going to drive more inflation. You can't gaslight people into believing everything is cheaper.... Corporations won't sacrifice their profits for this crap either... They'll raise prices or they'll fire people. Or maybe both!
Trump is supposed to have graduated from the prestigious Wharton School of Business. He must have missed the class on how percentages work.
He thinks he can lower drug prices by 1,000 percent. I can't trust a person who doesn't know how prices can not be lowered below 100% and yet he is running this country as a business with his tariffs..
This is from Huffington Post, three days ago.
President Donald Trump is getting heat on social media for making a claim on Tuesday about cutting drug prices that’s essentially mathematically impossible.
Trump began promisingly enough with a complaint shared by Democrats and Republicans alike: the high cost of medication, and how much more Americans pay for some medications than patients in other countries.
He promised to reduce those costs ― but to a very unlikely degree.
“We’re gonna get the drug prices down. Not 30% or 40%, which would be great. Not 50% or 60%. No, we’re gonna get them down 1,000%, 600%, 500%, 1,500%,” Trump said at a Republican dinner. “Numbers that are not even thought to be achievable.”
Critics quickly pointed out the reason those numbers are not thought to be achievable: reducing the price by 100% would make the drugs free. Reducing it by “1,000%, 600%, 500%, 1,500%,” as Trump said, would make the cost negative dollars ― with the drug company essentially paying people to take the medication.
Several users asked Grok, the AI chatbot on X, if Trump’s numbers made sense. Grok called Trump’s claim “mathematically impossible,” “hyperbolic and not literal” and “total bullshit.”
But Trump insisted he could use “a certain talent that I have” to convince pharmaceutical companies that they have no choice but to reduce their prices.
Trump also mentioned an executive order he signed in May to invoke “most-favored nation” status in drug costs, which he says would ensure that drug companies can’t charge Americans any more than what they charge patients in other nations.
However, the details of that plan remain hazy, and at least one pharmaceutical CEO said discussions with the White House are ongoing and expected to take time.
Trump on Tuesday insisted that his order will lead to those price cuts.
“We will have reduced drug prices by 1,000%, by 1,100, 1,200, 1,300, 1,400, 700, 600,” he said. “Not 30 or 40 or 50%, but numbers the likes of which you’ve never even dreamed of before.”
Trump’s critics offered some free math lessons:Just enjoying the cash Trump's tariffs added to our coffers in the past 6 months.... Historic! Can't wait to see the stats at year's end. Oh, by the way, many economists are also celebrating today. I like facts, stats, Views are cheap and plentiful. And as a rule, don't add up to anything. Most jump up and bite where the sun doesn't shine.
Making America Rich Again."Just enjoying the cash Trump's tariffs added to our coffers in the past 6 months....
Lol.. straight out of our pockets. LOL and what are we getting from it? Oh yeah, millions about to lose their health care... Not to mention the cuts in other numerous valuable programs.Oh, take it from me --- I got plenty... Have ya been watching the markets? Has anyone lost their healthcare yet? Were they committing fraud or refusing to work 20 hours a week? I have not seen any social completely cut completely. I have heard some will be overhauled. Cry me a river...
What is the basis of believing that Trump's proposal to reduce regulations will compensate for increased costs for Corporate america and subsequently for the American consumer that are to occur as a result of increased tariffs? Your belief is speculative as there are no hard numbers to reflect this. Why should they absorb anything that threaten the bottom line, someone has to pay?
Yes, he did bring in more money through tariffs. Unfortunately, YOU and I and Willowarbor are paying some it. American Businesses are paying the rest. Do you enjoy that and think it is a good thing that you are paying higher taxes? Is that what you voted for?
I'm reminded of 'Sniff' and Scurry from the classic book, "Who Moved My Cheese?" Of course Hem and Haw had their game plan to. I'll think I'll reread the book as a preventative measure with the ebb and flow of current events. Or, maybe watch a video, which is the new trend today.
Note: Image is live link to the video Who Moved My Cheese | Short Story | Spencer Johnson
Of course, naturally mind you, there is perspective to consider.
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