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lovemychrisposted 12 years ago
"Earlier today, ThinkProgress published an exclusive report that the law firm representing the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a right-wing trade association representing big business, is working with set of a private security companies and lobbying firms to undermine their political opponents, including ThinkProgress. According to e-mails obtained by ThinkProgress, the Chamber hired the lobbying firm Hunton and Williams. Attorneys for the firm solicited a set of private security firms- HB Gary Federal, Palantir, and Berico Technologies (collectively called Team Themis) to develop a sabotage campaign against progressive groups and labor unions, including ThinkProgress, the labor coalition Change to Win, SEIU, US Chamber Watch, and StopTheChamber.com."

Sabotage campaigns.....does this sound familiar??? Watch yer backs, that's all. Anytime they attack the PERSON....beware.

THIS is how they do politics....Radical Right....it's sabotage and propaganda, nothing more.
Coming to you since 1991...with the advent of Russsshhhhhh Radio.

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lob … mberleaks/
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Good news! The world should be aware of the evil of progressives!
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Russshhhhh is not a progressive. Nor is Beck, Ingraham, Hannity,Savage, Severin or YOU.Or Reality Bites or Ann Cee. Or Jim, who I have my deep suspicions of as someone I know from another site, who reportedly works for Fox news.
  
  You have gone over the top and blown your cover.
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Cover? What cover? I've never tried to hide the fact that I believe liberals to be evil!
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  Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  evil: Definition, adj. , eviler , evilest . Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant. Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
  
  Odd how the dictionary states that the poor diet you are also fighting for, is considered evil isn't it? To use your attitude one would say that EVIL means Bad unless it means Good, tee hee. Kind of like no not always meaning no in your opinion.
  
  Seems a little far fetched to assume that the right even knows how to spell morals let alone have any. Just because you place your self on the right doesn't mean you ever will be.
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  Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "Russshhhhh is not a progressive. Nor is Beck, Ingraham, Hannity,Savage, Severin or YOU.Or Reality Bites or Ann Cee. Or Jim, who I have my deep suspicions of as someone I know from another site, who reportedly works for Fox news."
  
  Moi?
  
  Works for FOX news?
  
  Do I have a large contract?
  
  I could use the money I need a rear tire for my Fatboy.
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Do you?
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  Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I do.
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I knew my ears were Buzz--in.
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  Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thats the wi....nevermind.
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  Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  
  Wow I have been placed in a group and labeled.
  
  Aren't you special?
  
  At least spell my name right duh!!
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  So it's okay for conservatives to hack into the computers of people you don't like?
  
  Really?
  
  You're condoning crime?
  
  Why am I not surprised?
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  maven101posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Kinda like the SEIU thugs, the New Black Panther thugs, Jackson's Rainbow Coalition, Code Pink idiots, and the Southern Poverty Law group...
  Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...
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  Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  
  Yeah but...but... they support those groups so they must be OK?
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lovemychrisposted 12 years ago
I also heard that Jan Brewer, gv of Arizona, is suing the Federal gvt for not protecting their border.....
With funds from PRIVATE DONORS.....anyone care to take a guess who those private donors are??

It's a shame that those people who lost family members don't have the donors to sue Brewer!
She took that Federal Stimulus money her state got, and put it into the prison-for-profit industry, rather than using it so save Arizonan's lives.

http://dailycensored.com/2010/08/06/pri … -s-b-1070/

http://tucsoncitizen.com/cell-out-arizo … -industry/

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/hea … -ties-priv
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Evan G Rogersposted 12 years ago
look up Morgan vs. Rockefeller and you'll see that, not only is this type of thing not new, but it's the norm.

Now the question is: "do we blame the companies for ASKING for the money and manipulating the system? or do we blame the government for having the monopoly control that attracts the companies' demands?"

I would easily argue the latter.
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lovemychrisposted 12 years ago
"do we blame the companies for ASKING for the money and manipulating the system?'

YES! Completely and absolutely.

If your kid sees a bike unlocked and wants to steal it, do you say "Go ahead", or do you say "No, that's wrong"?

Just cause you can doesn't mean you should.

Thieves are bleeding us dry.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  When a child asks if he can have cookies, the parents should say "no" if it's too close to dinner.
  
  When companies ask for bailouts, the government should say "no" ... all the time.
  
  Don't blame the companies for receiving the money that government stole from you.
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I just totally disagree.
  Are the companies responsible for what they do, or not???
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Obviously not... but it's all good - they are agents of the Lord...
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lovemychrisposted 12 years ago
Well--when you get down to insulting a first lady for her big butt....I'd say you are on some whole other agenda than evil. There is nothing evil about having a big butt. You are pushing personal hatred of the Obama's. Personal. Gut-level. Why?

And you said you didn't vote for Obama because of his support for the Patriot Act. But did you vote for GW after he signed it into law?
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Nope never voted for GW. And I dont see how pointing out that Michelle could afford to skip some of her super bowl menu items translates to hate... but ivte been expecting someone to play the race card.
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  junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  NO, don't play the race card, just say liberals or liberal lovers.
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No, what you said in a nutshell was that Mrs. Obama was a hypocrite because on Super Bowl Sunday her "party" served shit*y food. I am on a diet for high cholesterol, but when I eat the prime rib tonight with my wife, I will consider it for what it is - an indulgence, not a pattern....
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  But I'm guessing you were perfectly okay with the pics of George W. Bush that circulated showing his facial expressions compared with similar expressions by a chimpanzee.
  
  Will you also disavow that particular personal assault? Somehow, I doubt it.....
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Ritchie...were you here from 2000-2008? I never experienced anything like this Obama-Hate in my life.
  
  I got the hate back then...for questioning Bush!!!
  
  Go back and SEE for yourself. If you can, I don't know if it's possible. But believe me, the problems people had with Bush were all to do with the things he did, not his wife. No one I know, nor did i ever see anyone attack Laura Bush.
  
  Bush as a chimpanzee?? What national media was that on? Cause this Michelle has a big butt thing is on National Media. AS IF it's news!
  
  No....I never saw hate and smearing like this before....unless you go back to Clinton.
  
  Vast right wing conspiracy? You better believe it!
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh please!
  
  http://www.democraticunderground.com/di … 05x3306955
  
  That's just one site of thousands making fun of Laura Bush! Liberals are so good at playing the victim and creating victims all to support their evil agenda!
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I never heard or saw it....but I am inundated with Obama hate.....
  You tell me how that's possible.
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Because you only read far left propaganda which is all too happy to report what extremists publish and exagerate any criticism of Obama.
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The far left is just as hard on Obama as you are....although not as personally vilifying.
  
  .....And I think i just answered my own question.
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Of course the Michelle big butt thing is getting press because that fits the liberal media agenda. A conservative makes an off color comment about a liberal and it's news. It would not be news if it were the other way around.
  
  When you use words like conspiracy, it becomes very hard to take you seriously....
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You STILL think it's a "Liberal" media??? OMG.
  
  And the person who said Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy was Hilary Clinton....and she should know.
  
  And, in fact, you should too....You can't miss it unless you want to.
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Um, other than Fox, name one network that gives any sort of conservative op ed? Can you? Yeah, I didn't think so either.
  
  Hillary Clinton completely discredited herself with her conspiracy comments, as should any figure on the national stage.
  
  And yes, I guess I must have missed the memo.....haven't been to a Right Wing Conspiracy meeting in a while now....
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The whole of talk-radio! From 5:30 am until 1:00am.....total rabid right rubbish.
  
  Not to mention all these "Think tanks" who "advise" people....
  
  Plenty of rabid-right magazines out there.
  
  CPAC...was on C-Span all week-end. Blech!
  
  And every tv network is slanted right...except for msnbc...and they have mornin Joe and Pat Buchanan.
  
  Please get off the "poor me conservative" crap. It's a fantasy.
  
  And Hilary was right....they went after her hubby with a vengeance.
  
  Did NOTHING about Bushco.
  
  And are going after Obama now.
  
  You tell me....where's the conspiracy? It's right in your face!
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I would respond to this, but I think it's better to just let LMC's post hang out there for all to see.....it's kinda hard to top it, anyway.....
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I can top it no problem!!!
  
  "Obama is a Socialist."
  "Obama is a Marxist."
  "Obama hates white people...he's a racist."
  "Obama hates America."
  "Obama wants to destroy America."
  Glenn Beck, in little-girl voice (pretending to be Obama's daughter); "Daddy, why do you hate white people so?"
  "Radical Islam and the American Left are teaming up to create an Islamic Caliphate. The New World Order."
  
  "Osama Bin-Laden did 9/11."
  "America doesn't torture."
  "We care about reducing the deficit."
  "We will create jobs."
  
  What's-his-name Hannity, on every show in 2003: "28 days, 27 days, 26 days, etc. until Bush is re-elected."
  "Fair and Balanced."
  "Obama is anti-American.(Ollie North, on Klannity's show)
  
  Honestly, I could go on and on...and if I actually watched or listened to them on a regular basis, I'm sure it would never end!
  
  Conservative suppression??? Pullleeeeeaze.
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  WalterDamageposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, so far you're talking about FOX which had the intelligence to recognize that conservative based op ed shows get ratings......(at least that's what I was able to glean from the above post).
  
  And I'm not exactly sure what you are responding to at this moment....as you tend to lose me rather quickly.....
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Errr, Fox and talk radio, and Republican pundits on tv and Republican representatives in gvt....
  
  They ALL follow the same Talking Points Messaging:
  
  Dems BAD/EVIL
  Repubs GOOD/GODLY
  
  Dems hate America/Repubs champion the American ideals (barf)
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You know, it's ironic that Conservatives continually spout the "Liberal Bias" angle. But let's not forget one thing - news, media - the whole enchilada in the US is driven by market forces. That's only natural. If there weren't a "demand" for it, there would be no supply. Now the one thing I will give you is this: most news is not gathered, interpreted, and disbursed by your typical highschool graduate. So admittedly, there may be a bit of intellectual "frosting" on the news; we apologize for this inconvenience.
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Well listen, poor George W... he's the kind of guy you have to sit on a stove top to get his IQ above room temperature...
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Hugh Williamsonposted 12 years ago
lovemychris wrote:

Russshhhhh is not a progressive. Nor is Beck, Ingraham, Hannity,Savage, Severin or YOU.Or Reality Bites or Ann Cee. Or Jim, who I have my deep suspicions of as someone I know from another site, who reportedly works for Fox news.

You have gone over the top and blown your cover.

Lady_love158 Wrote:

Cover? What cover? I've never tried to hide the fact that I believe liberals to be evil!

I think the term that everyone is dancing around is "astroturfing," which is "sock-puppeting" on a more massive scale. Unscrupulous organizations may promote their agendas by setting up a bogus organization which falsely claims to be asserting their own independent viewpoint. Forum posting is one of their main weapons.

Hubbers who sign up and then constantly post on certain subjects, without writing relevant Hubs, may be suspected of "astroturfing" someone's agenda while pretending to be just another hubber.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Really? I had no idea! Thanks for the info but if I were to do something like that I wouldn't pick a forum with limited readership.
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Politics is 2nd only to religion.
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  Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hugh, that's hilarious. I read this post just after leaving lady's profile. I was looking to see if she presented the same opinions in her hubs and I was correct in my recollection that she doesn't.
  
  1st time I have heard the term and it tickled me that she immediately denied doing exactly what she's doing. Circular logic was what she used to deny it. If she was "astroturfing" she would "astroturf" in a diferent place and that proves she's not "astroturfing". Not the first time I've watched her use this type of logic to convince herself of something.
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Y'know, if I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd assume that lady_love was some kind of ringer who was trying to make the radical right look silly. I mean, she condones crime, she uses abysmal logic, she rarely makes a coherent argument...all in all I'd say she was trying to make conservatives look bad by association.
  
  But for my part, I believe her to be sincere. Bad at using logic, and making morally questionable assertions, but sincere.
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Jeff - I mentioned that last night on another forum. I seriously am beginning to wonder.
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lovemychrisposted 12 years ago
Thank You Hugh!!! Some of us suspected as much.

When you just "show up" and really nastily attack....with Limbaugh-type nastiness....to the gut-- then it just feels like there's something whole other going on.

It's very much what the Hasbaras do.
Or gang-stalkers.

Astroturfing....I learned something new!
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Mighty Momposted 12 years ago
Obama admitted you have to have a thick skin to make it to the White House. I don't imagine either he or Michelle give any credence whatsoever to vicious personal attacks. Obama made his opinion of Bill O'Reilly and his ilk quite clear during his interview on SB Sunday.

If they pay attention to anyone's opinion, it's undoubtedly
a) poll numbers
b) renewed respect for USA around the world
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Are you kidding? Obama has the thinnest skin of any President in recent memory. How else do you explain his obsession with Fox News, wanting some guy to "tear up" Hannity, not wanting Dem leaders to go on Fox shows, trying to cut Fox out of the White House press pool.....
  
  The man cannot take criticism....
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  Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  He simply states the truth about the Faux News Network. Most people who deal in reality feel the same way about the Republican marketing firm that Faux News is. How do you defend a news service that fought for and won the legal acknowledgement of their right to lie to it's viewers? What part of this screams truthful reporting to you?
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, I guess that's why the other news networks stepped up in defense of FOX, telling the White House, "you take all of us or none of us".
  
  I doubt they would have been so forthright for a network not considered "news".
  
  Still waiting to hear about all these lies you keep screaming about.....ah, well....
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thin skin... yeah maybe just a little. I go back a long ways, and I will tell you this: I can't remember a time when one president was called or accused of being a "god-hater," a communist, a socialist, "anti-american," "an "Islamic plant, and "Islamist," " anti-business, a hater of "white people," - you know one could go on and on and on. Oh and let's not forget - not "being constitutionally eligible to be president."
  This guy who, in reality, has shot off his mouth very little in the last two years has garnered more hate than anyone I can remember in the last 50 years. But when you decide to take on the insurance and financial sector, I guess you pay the price - right? I mean THAT IS THE AMERICAN WAY - don't mess with BIG MONEY.
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The Adams campaign accused Jefferson of Atheism.
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Well ok, agreed - I was not around in the 18th or 19th Century. I should have prefaced with "in my lifetime." Though there was some slinging going on during the '64 election and Goldwater.
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm more concerned about Mr. Obama messing with our freedoms....
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  Doug Hughesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Got to agree with you there. President Obama should restore Habeus Corpus rights for anyone detained under the Patriot Act. Charge them or release them. Except for defending provisions of the PA, he has generally gone the way of restoring personal freedoms in the USA.
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Really? Seeing as how Mr. Obama has presided over the single largest government power grab in history, and given that, without fail, government expansion results in loss of freedom, please explain to the rest of us exactly how our President has restored freedoms...
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Please explain to me how you are less free today than before he took office?
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I posed the question first.....I'll be glad to answer yours in the order it was received....
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Your question is based on an unsupported premise, and is therefore unanswerable.
  
  Support your premise, and we can continue the discussion.
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  So your answer is, "No sir, I will not answer your question but I expect you to answer mine". Thanks for playing along.....next.....
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  Doug Hughesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No warrentless wiretaps.
  
  No 'free speech zones' to detain protesters.
  
  More (not perfect) information about WH visitors & activities
  
  Expansion of gun ownership rights.
  
  That's off the top of my head with no research - I don't suggest it's a complete list. Now answer Jeff if you can. I suspect you will will not reply because your claim is false.
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  BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I highly doubt wiretaps affected your freedoms. If they, did, please explain to us how.
  
  Free speech zones? Yeah, they were big fans of free speech when they tried to kick FNC out of the White House press pool.
  
  Expansion of gun ownership rights? Really? You'll have to be a bit more specific on that one.
  
  And Jeff can answer the question himself, he's a big boy.....
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Egg-xactly.
  Don't mess with their money and their means of getting it!
  
  "You are our base, and we will support you."--Dick Cheney....aka all rabid right-wingers down throughout history.
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Mighty Momposted 12 years ago
It is not news period.
I don't know what you mean by the "liberal media agenda." Which news sources promote this "agenda" bdr?
A quick Google search uncovers several pages of coverage on the topic of Michelle Obama's butt. Not a single one from a major media source. So it's liberals that are promoting this story?
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Mighty Momposted 12 years ago
LaLo -- we don't even have to read leftist propaganda. We get a daily full-on hate fest right here on the Hub Pages forums!
I guess you're admitting here that you get your hateful criticisms from "extremist" publications.
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hateful? Oh right, anyone that opposesthe evil of the left is a racist hater!
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  Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No one said racist.
  You indicated that criticisms of Obama as printed in extreme publications are then exaggerated by leftist propaganda.
  I said the criticisms I read are here on Hub Pages.
  But you didn't answer.
  Where do you get your hatred of the "evil left" anyway?
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  Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No not anyone but you sure seem to fit the description dont you?
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I would say it IS hateful to point out someone's "big butt". Or do you mean it in a nice way?
  
  And don't pretend ignorance. These IS a racial component to it...it's been around since slavery. I learned about it in art class...."The African Diaspora".
  
  They used to have posters making fun of black women for their attributes.
  
  Which funnily enough, in a karmic sort of way, is now desired as a mark of beauty. J Lo is known for it, and some poor woman just died trying to buy herself a fake one.
  
  Hmmmm, maybe your insult backfired!! so to speak! Ahahaha--Howard Stern fart-joke!!
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You were the first person to bring up race at all. Nobody called you a racist, but you sure seem to want someone to: you've brought it up twice (so far). Is it so that you can get mad at them for calling you names, and pretend that they've somehow lost the argument? Why are you so obsessed with race?
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  DTR0005posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Jeff, I don't think people want to say it, but race has to play a part in all of this. I am not saying it is overt racism, but the reality, I think, is the following: The First Couple don't exactly look like Ozzie and Harriette Nelson. I think even subconciously it may be difficult for the average American to "identify" with their leader.
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "but race has to play a part in all of this."
  Race surely plays a role for some people.
  
  But I'm sure that for many, they'd be just as freaked out if a John Kerry had been elected.
  
  In this case, I just wanted to point out that nobody had even mentioned racism before LaLo started accusing everyone who disagrees with her of calling her a racist. Is there a conclusion that can be drawn? I don't know.
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  lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Lol! The "long legged mack daddy" comment was delivered by a black preacher! The left manfactures racism to end intelligent debate... again! It's really gettin old!
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  Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "The "long legged mack daddy" comment was delivered by a black preacher! "
  Support?
  
  "The left manfactures racism to end intelligent debate... again!"
  Assuming that your 'black preacher' point can be supported with evidence, you've only refuted one (count it: one!) incidence of a racist-sounding slur.
  
  You haven't addressed the 'street' gang one, the 'white slavery' one, the 'what you talkin' bout, Willis' one, or the Obama-as-witch-doctor one. That's four-to-one, and I haven't even mentioned all the stuff about going back to Kenya, the lyin' African, the various caricatures playing up his race, etc, etc etc. I suppose all of those are products of some kind of left-wing conspiracy?
  
  And I repeat, nobody has called you racist yet. But you surely seem obsessed with those nonexistent accusations of racism. Why is that?
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  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Very true...they take over where talk-radio leaves off.
  Here I though I had escaped it by giving up radio.
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Mighty Momposted 12 years ago
Big booties are big business!

www.thebootybump.com
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maven101posted 12 years ago
lovemychris was all a twitter about conservative talking points...She must have forgotten the progressive talking points like Palin's " lacks gravitas ", Cheney's " Red meat " speech, and Obama's " transformative presidency ", all blogged, bleated, and broadcast ad nauseum...I love it when MSNBC starts the phrase of the day and then watch it picked up by CNBC,CNN, and progressive commentators on Fox...
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