Where Born Gay So Enough Of The Homophobia

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   calpol25posted 14 years ago

   We do not wake up in the morning and decide to be gay today, we are naturally born gay just as others are born straight, bisexual and whatever else. Each to their own I say, we have no choice in being gay its who we are and what we are, why do people make such a big thing out of it?
   
   Are they afraid of us or do they wish to understand us,

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      calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have been looking at some of the forum discussions about this and it always ends up with religion issues being thrown in, well im sorry but religion has nothing to do with being gay, evolution and genetics is the key to it all. I just think that homophobia is getting more stupid today, what are people so afraid of?

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         IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hey Calpol, I'm not homophobic, I've got nothing against gays and I know you're born that way

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            calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hey honey I know your not homophobic and I like your views but im just sick of seeing people be attacked for no reason except ignorance and people saying that they speak for god when they dont because surely has a voice of his own. lol

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         They are afraid of themselves or what their god said.
         Stupid, and ignorant by choice! I have no time at all for homophobes!

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            calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You and me both its just plain stupid like children fighting over toys lol

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      sophsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sexuality shouldn't be an issue! It's what's inside that truly counts, we are all people and nobody is better than anybody else!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Everyone has a choice as to what sexual acts they perform.
      Enough of the heterophobic accusations.

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         IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ahhh but I don't think we are talking about sexual acts, we are talking about being gay which for a man would mean he is attracted to other men in the same men than heteros are attracted to women, and yes I do believe they are born that way. Studies carried out years ago showed that gay men have raised oestrogen in their bodies, or was it lowered testosterone? Whatever. They are just built that way and who made us again? (in his image)

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            Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            The "in His image" part signifies simply the shell of "mankind", as far as the physical effects.  It means we weren't created to look or function like animals or fish or something, because we were created similar to how God is.    It's also evident that the first man (Adam) was perfectly formed.   On down the line, there were deformities, etc., that occurred, after the fall of Adam and Eve of course.

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               Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               

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               CMHypnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Why is it evident that your supposed first man Adam was perfect - has someone dug up his remains and examined them? Human illnesses and handicaps are part and parcel of our being living creatures, not part of a punishment from God because we 'fell'into sin.
               
               There is nothing wrong and sinful about being gay, it's part of the rich tapestry of our human condition and the world would be a sorrier place without some of the amazing gay people that I know.
               
               Also, isn't incest another biblical sin?  How did perfect Adam and Eve manage to populate the earth without their immediate descendants having improper relations with each other? Not logical at all!

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                  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Animals are atracted to their same gender, and nobody complains. I think that's like a normal state.
                  Who cares ?
                  A lot of people like the opposite gender, so it's not as Man is going to be extinguished !

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                  IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I've often wondered about that. Didn't Adam and Eve have 2 sons? Did they have daughters too? I don't remember, I just remember the sons - so who did they impregnate to continue the species, their mother?

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                     tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Monkeys

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                        Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Damn your fast!

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Monkeys.
                     
                     Darwin proved this.

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                        IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        ROFL!!!
                        
                        That was quick - the pair of you!
                        Actually I don't believe Adam nor Eve existed, nor was the Earth made in 7 days and all that jazz. Darwin's theory is, if not correct, far nearer the truth than the Bible says, IMO.

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                           sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           I didn't know the Bible had a version of evolution.

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                     CMHypnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     With no daughters it just wouldn't happen and even with a daughter or two thrown in you would still have a very genetically narrow, inbred population that probably wouldn't have survived very long.

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                     Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Adam and Eve represent men and women but not 2 people..

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      danii10469posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      i feel that people are afraid of something they dont understand. in a way i feel like people were forced to believe that if you lay with another man you go to hell. children of all ages go to church and this is what they are teachinqq then..it isnt there fault. if you go to church since you were a kid and they are tellinqq you that beinqq gay is bad well then there is a 95% chance that your going to grow up thinkinqq beinqq gay is wronge. and the other 5 percent  might  be scared to think differently

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         qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         DAnii:
         It has been mentioned before in forum responses that the bible demands that homosexual man is to be killed.
         The idiocy of christianity is expressed powerfully in that scripture.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            We don't teach that at our church so thats not true, however; we wouldn't support issues that are morally challenged. We never, ever discuss political issues or social issues at our church and you're welcome to see for yourself. Liberals, gays and atheists are liars if they find it easy to defy God then they will do anything.

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      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I don't know how to tell you this but, I don't care what your sexual proclivities are, cool with you?

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         calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thats cool with me, thats my approach on life too its just people always use us as something to slap at constantly and point blame at us for stupid things that we dont even have any thing to do with.

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            A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I'm too busy kicking Democrats around, now those guys have certainly made a choice, no one can be born that clueless!

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               calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               lol i dont blame you

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      Abe Normalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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         Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Aw of course a chance to use vulgar language....so cool.
         
         I am sure there are many genes scientist haven't found but it doesn't mean it's NOT There

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      Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This is fact. A person is born gay. They know by the age of 2 years old who they are attracted to, though they may not retain the memory of this.
      
      Yet I see a few so called religious people putting gays down as though they have control over it. They'd like gay people to snap out of it, repent and never be gay again.
      
      Could they snap out of liking the opposite sex?

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Deborah it's time for a new hair color.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Get a life! Time for a new one. My hair is frosted..so dark and light...What's this got to do with being Gay?

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               sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               My mistake it looked blonde to me. Have you been drinking?

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  

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                     sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Theres a good girl!

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         IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Agree 100% Deborah!
         When I was at primary school we knew who was gay and who wasn't, even though we didn't really know what it all meant. eg there was this boy in my class who walked like a girl, talked like a girl and was best friends with all the girls. He was never bullied or anything like that. Us girls would have stood up for him anyway. And yes when he grew up he was gay. No surprise there for anyone. That wasn't learned behaviour. It was the way he was born.
         Similarly there was this girl who was more boy than girl - wore denims, talked like a guy, stood her ground. we all thought she was just great and she turned out to be a lesbian (OK that was a bit of a shock) but they were KIDS!! This isn't something they learned or turned into when they grew up.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What are you agreeing to? There is no scientific evidence to support your position it's only hearsey.

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               IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I'm agreeing that gay people are born gay, that it is not a learned choice to become gay.
               I am surprised when you say there is no medical evidence to support that. Is there not? Are you sure?

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Well if what you propose is correct then it would have some basis in genetics and it's been proven thats not the case. You can be empathetic and I understand your empathy for the gay community. The gays I've met are really nice people. How we get along doesn't have anything to do with this debate.

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                     Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     No it hasn't. Nothing found about the genes yet..but that doesn't make it untrue. They have found many differences in gay and straight men even in the brain.

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                        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Well unfortunately it is but it's ok you can believe whatever you want.

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               Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               What science have you studied? Science fiction?

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Now Debra don't get all puffy!

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                     Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     My names not Debra. If you can't get a name right how can you get science right? Puffy..looks to me you are the puffy one.

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                        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Yeah but mines not from water retention.

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                           Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Nacho retention?

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         qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Deborah:
         My brother "was" gay.
         No one on either side of my parents family were gay.
         We knew from, as you say, about 2 yrs old, that he was acting differently.
         By the time he was in kindergarden, it was obvious that he had a propensity for more feminine things.
         Unfortunately, my arsehole mormon father was a shallowminded religious bigot...HOMOPHOBIC TO THE HILT!
         I'll make a long story short.
         Read my "hub" on homosexuals.
         Nuff said.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   I am not sure that homosexuality is something you are born with, however I think it is influenced by the huge number of factors in life.
   
   Personally I don't care what someones sexuality is, my opinion on someone is based on what kind of person they are, not what they choose to do in their spare time (unless they train spot, in which case I am going to make some joookeeess!)

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      sophsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well excuse me! How rude! I quite enjoy a bit of trainspotting now and then! ahaha!

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   kerrygposted 14 years ago

   Yeah, I've really never understood the conservative argument that being gay is somehow a choice. You don't wake up one morning and decide to be straight, so how does it make ANY sense to believe that gays would wake up one morning and decide to be gay?
   
   The only logical explanation I can think of is that the person claiming it's a choice DID make a conscious choice to be straight, and is just in denial about the fact that having the ability to make a conscious choice about their sexuality means they are, at the very least, bisexual.

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      calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I quite agree, it is not a choice we make, its made for us.

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   George Greene Jr.posted 14 years ago

   I am not gay or bi and know that it is a genetic thing! I know because even though I never have been wit another man, I still feel more like a woman as I have been crossdrssing since I was 5 yrs old (48 now).I have a woman 27 yrs my senior and we have been together 13 years  and we share all the dresses and most of the purses (some of her purses I don't like as they are too big for my style! We also do not share shoes due to size difference).I go out in public dressed except to work as I do construction or work where a dress would not be suitable(such as cleaning stadiums). So no it is nothing more than genetic and yes my friends have no qualms about it. They only have one question and that is how I can walk in heels so well.

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      IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You live with a woman? So you are a lesbian trapped in a man's body? Or are you just a cross-dresser?

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   Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years ago

   Can't control how other people think, unfortunately. I, for one, have thought about homosexuality often. It's a natural thing.
   
   Did you know that over 50% of animals are homosexual? They have sex with the same gender for pleasure and only mate with the opposite gender for mating purposes.
   
   Many people are the same. When you think about it, who do you know that would CHOOSE to go through the horrible things homosexuals have to go through every single day of their lives? People looking at you strangely when you hold your S.O.'s hand, family seeing you differently, friends leaving your side when you come out of the closet... There is no possible way that anyone would choose this kind of life.
   
   Anyway, I see love as a beautiful thing, no matter who you love. So go for it and do what makes you happy. I'll back you up if you need me to and I know plenty of others who would do the same thing.

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   awareposted 14 years ago

   im cool with  individuality  and preference. but born  i think otherwise

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   Inoko Clan-Clanposted 14 years ago

   I don't really care. The inside should count more than what's on the outside. Besides, should it really matter to others?

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      calpol25posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your quite right, this why i wrote this post because some one always brings it up in the forums and slaps at us all the time i mean you dont mind the first few but it does get annoying when its the same peop;e so atleast maybe now people can move on and find something else to talk about lol

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   Nico Albaposted 14 years ago

   Just kinda kills me that you use the wrong word in your post title - "Where" instead of "We're". See "where" is like a place. "We're" is a contraction, a joining of two words that is short for "we are"...

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   It's just really weird Cal! I don't believe anyone is born with any sexual behavior I believe it's learned. You can be gay or whatever you want, now heres the kicker, as long as you don't hurt anyone else. Lastly, it's not up to you or anyone else to decide what constitutes hurting someone else. If your choice is having a negative impact on other people you need to check yourself.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Cal:
      There are comments such as this one that should be ignored.
      My response is: "I wouldn't stoop to the level of exhibited, primitive ignorance this comment represents and respond!"
      From then on, I'd ignore any comments made by that uneducated and inane "hubber"
      Consider the source!

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         See how easy it is to make morally challenged people throw their venom around. Not one of my comments we're mean or insulting but look at the response: Stoop to that level, primitive ingnorance, uneducated and inane hubber. This is exactly how you can expect any liberal, gay or atheist to act. You confront them on their behavior and they flip-out! Quack, I don't know about you boy.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Who did Adam learn it from?

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         C'mon Ron everybody knows the Garden of Eden was perfect so they must have enjoyed a comprehensive library.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Complete with Adult content?

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               sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Professional medical guides but they may have had pictures but, I'm not sure.

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                  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah ! And computers hanging from the branches

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                     sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     There you go Ron even Tantrum knows that! Where you been boy?

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                        tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        
                        hi sneak !

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                           sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Hey Tantrum how you doing? Hows that star of yours doing?

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                              tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              She was in LA last week. She's coming back home today !

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                           sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Thanks for watching the video! He's a soccer player who has done way too many headers! No matter hes ours!

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                              tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              He's a Hell of a guy!! If I were 20 years younger...
                              
                              

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     There again the biblical explanation falls apart in the face of scientific evidence.
                     
                     As if anyone could learn about sex without internet porn......

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    Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago

    Studies show that Gay men and straight women have the same size brain and Straight men and Gay women have the same size.

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    studies show that studies show just about anything the studier wants them to show!  brain size? it's what you do with it that counts! and I think speculating about why people are the way they are is a complete waste of time.  better to accept people, like them or don't like them, for who they are and get on with your own life!

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       No matter the truth?

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    2besureposted 14 years ago

    When I was little, I used to visit my mom's friend and her son.  I always remember even at 7 years old that he was different.  He wanted to play with dolls and had feminine characteristics. I also remember my mom saying, they always knew he was gay from the time he was a small child. I don't believe that a 7 year old decides he wants to be a homosexual.

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       So you're saying childhood enviroment has no impact on adult behavior? Be careful.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    Good bye weird people I have an appointment to go to. I have heard that rice pudding is the cure. I don't know if it works but it sure tastes good!

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       Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Oh! You said rice pudding.  Yum!!
       Couldn't pass that up!   I dunno what it's a "cure" for, but yes it does taste good! 

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Plus it makes a good lube for........

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    Dolores Monetposted 14 years ago

    I have nothing to say against gay people, and I probably shouldn't point a finger at anybody for poor spelling,  but the title here is 'where' born gay. Where? Huh?

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