We do not wake up in the morning and decide to be gay today, we are naturally born gay just as others are born straight, bisexual and whatever else. Each to their own I say, we have no choice in being gay its who we are and what we are, why do people make such a big thing out of it?
Are they afraid of us or do they wish to understand us,
I have been looking at some of the forum discussions about this and it always ends up with religion issues being thrown in, well im sorry but religion has nothing to do with being gay, evolution and genetics is the key to it all. I just think that homophobia is getting more stupid today, what are people so afraid of?
Hey honey I know your not homophobic and I like your views but im just sick of seeing people be attacked for no reason except ignorance and people saying that they speak for god when they dont because surely has a voice of his own. lol
Ahhh but I don't think we are talking about sexual acts, we are talking about being gay which for a man would mean he is attracted to other men in the same men than heteros are attracted to women, and yes I do believe they are born that way. Studies carried out years ago showed that gay men have raised oestrogen in their bodies, or was it lowered testosterone? Whatever. They are just built that way and who made us again? (in his image)
The "in His image" part signifies simply the shell of "mankind", as far as the physical effects. It means we weren't created to look or function like animals or fish or something, because we were created similar to how God is. It's also evident that the first man (Adam) was perfectly formed. On down the line, there were deformities, etc., that occurred, after the fall of Adam and Eve of course.
Why is it evident that your supposed first man Adam was perfect - has someone dug up his remains and examined them? Human illnesses and handicaps are part and parcel of our being living creatures, not part of a punishment from God because we 'fell'into sin.
There is nothing wrong and sinful about being gay, it's part of the rich tapestry of our human condition and the world would be a sorrier place without some of the amazing gay people that I know.
Also, isn't incest another biblical sin? How did perfect Adam and Eve manage to populate the earth without their immediate descendants having improper relations with each other? Not logical at all!
Animals are atracted to their same gender, and nobody complains. I think that's like a normal state. Who cares ? A lot of people like the opposite gender, so it's not as Man is going to be extinguished !
I've often wondered about that. Didn't Adam and Eve have 2 sons? Did they have daughters too? I don't remember, I just remember the sons - so who did they impregnate to continue the species, their mother?
That was quick - the pair of you! Actually I don't believe Adam nor Eve existed, nor was the Earth made in 7 days and all that jazz. Darwin's theory is, if not correct, far nearer the truth than the Bible says, IMO.
i feel that people are afraid of something they dont understand. in a way i feel like people were forced to believe that if you lay with another man you go to hell. children of all ages go to church and this is what they are teachinqq then..it isnt there fault. if you go to church since you were a kid and they are tellinqq you that beinqq gay is bad well then there is a 95% chance that your going to grow up thinkinqq beinqq gay is wronge. and the other 5 percent might be scared to think differently
We don't teach that at our church so thats not true, however; we wouldn't support issues that are morally challenged. We never, ever discuss political issues or social issues at our church and you're welcome to see for yourself. Liberals, gays and atheists are liars if they find it easy to defy God then they will do anything.
Agree 100% Deborah! When I was at primary school we knew who was gay and who wasn't, even though we didn't really know what it all meant. eg there was this boy in my class who walked like a girl, talked like a girl and was best friends with all the girls. He was never bullied or anything like that. Us girls would have stood up for him anyway. And yes when he grew up he was gay. No surprise there for anyone. That wasn't learned behaviour. It was the way he was born. Similarly there was this girl who was more boy than girl - wore denims, talked like a guy, stood her ground. we all thought she was just great and she turned out to be a lesbian (OK that was a bit of a shock) but they were KIDS!! This isn't something they learned or turned into when they grew up.
Well if what you propose is correct then it would have some basis in genetics and it's been proven thats not the case. You can be empathetic and I understand your empathy for the gay community. The gays I've met are really nice people. How we get along doesn't have anything to do with this debate.
Deborah: My brother "was" gay. No one on either side of my parents family were gay. We knew from, as you say, about 2 yrs old, that he was acting differently. By the time he was in kindergarden, it was obvious that he had a propensity for more feminine things. Unfortunately, my arsehole mormon father was a shallowminded religious bigot...HOMOPHOBIC TO THE HILT! I'll make a long story short. Read my "hub" on homosexuals. Nuff said.
I am not sure that homosexuality is something you are born with, however I think it is influenced by the huge number of factors in life.
Personally I don't care what someones sexuality is, my opinion on someone is based on what kind of person they are, not what they choose to do in their spare time (unless they train spot, in which case I am going to make some joookeeess!)
Yeah, I've really never understood the conservative argument that being gay is somehow a choice. You don't wake up one morning and decide to be straight, so how does it make ANY sense to believe that gays would wake up one morning and decide to be gay?
The only logical explanation I can think of is that the person claiming it's a choice DID make a conscious choice to be straight, and is just in denial about the fact that having the ability to make a conscious choice about their sexuality means they are, at the very least, bisexual.
I am not gay or bi and know that it is a genetic thing! I know because even though I never have been wit another man, I still feel more like a woman as I have been crossdrssing since I was 5 yrs old (48 now).I have a woman 27 yrs my senior and we have been together 13 years and we share all the dresses and most of the purses (some of her purses I don't like as they are too big for my style! We also do not share shoes due to size difference).I go out in public dressed except to work as I do construction or work where a dress would not be suitable(such as cleaning stadiums). So no it is nothing more than genetic and yes my friends have no qualms about it. They only have one question and that is how I can walk in heels so well.
Can't control how other people think, unfortunately. I, for one, have thought about homosexuality often. It's a natural thing.
Did you know that over 50% of animals are homosexual? They have sex with the same gender for pleasure and only mate with the opposite gender for mating purposes.
Many people are the same. When you think about it, who do you know that would CHOOSE to go through the horrible things homosexuals have to go through every single day of their lives? People looking at you strangely when you hold your S.O.'s hand, family seeing you differently, friends leaving your side when you come out of the closet... There is no possible way that anyone would choose this kind of life.
Anyway, I see love as a beautiful thing, no matter who you love. So go for it and do what makes you happy. I'll back you up if you need me to and I know plenty of others who would do the same thing.
Your quite right, this why i wrote this post because some one always brings it up in the forums and slaps at us all the time i mean you dont mind the first few but it does get annoying when its the same peop;e so atleast maybe now people can move on and find something else to talk about lol
Just kinda kills me that you use the wrong word in your post title - "Where" instead of "We're". See "where" is like a place. "We're" is a contraction, a joining of two words that is short for "we are"...
It's just really weird Cal! I don't believe anyone is born with any sexual behavior I believe it's learned. You can be gay or whatever you want, now heres the kicker, as long as you don't hurt anyone else. Lastly, it's not up to you or anyone else to decide what constitutes hurting someone else. If your choice is having a negative impact on other people you need to check yourself.
Cal: There are comments such as this one that should be ignored. My response is: "I wouldn't stoop to the level of exhibited, primitive ignorance this comment represents and respond!" From then on, I'd ignore any comments made by that uneducated and inane "hubber" Consider the source!
See how easy it is to make morally challenged people throw their venom around. Not one of my comments we're mean or insulting but look at the response: Stoop to that level, primitive ingnorance, uneducated and inane hubber. This is exactly how you can expect any liberal, gay or atheist to act. You confront them on their behavior and they flip-out! Quack, I don't know about you boy.
studies show that studies show just about anything the studier wants them to show! brain size? it's what you do with it that counts! and I think speculating about why people are the way they are is a complete waste of time. better to accept people, like them or don't like them, for who they are and get on with your own life!
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