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God is imaginary, only exists in the minds of people.

  1. Astralrose profile image87
    Astralroseposted 4 years ago

    Non-human animals don't have any awareness of God. Why is that? Is it because man was made in the image of God and animals weren't? Or is it because God only exists in people who have the ability to think and imagine, which makes God a product of human imagination?

    1. janesix profile image60
      janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      How do you know what an animal thinks? You have absolutely no idea what could be going on in their minds.

    2. W Vidal profile image57
      W Vidalposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "Non-human animals don't have any awareness of God."



      -How do you know that?

      1. Repairguy47 profile image60
        Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Son of Sam told him/her.

        1. Chris Neal profile image82
          Chris Nealposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          If non-humans had an awareness of God, why don't they display it?

    3. Praetor profile image61
      Praetorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I'm an atheist and even I'm curious as to how you know what animals are thinking.

      1. Astralrose profile image87
        Astralroseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        They may be thinking many things...I don't know what but I'm quite sure they're not worshiping any gods. They don't kneel to pray, they don't offer flowers and food (any offerings) to gods (which is ridiculous, by the way...offering something to any gods considering he/she/it owns everything-like what believers believe). They don't consider churches or mosques or temples holy or sacred...so I would rather consider these acts as no awareness of gods and that god is just a human concept!

        1. scottcgruber profile image89
          scottcgruberposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You're right - the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God as we understand it is a human concept, created for us and by us. But that doesn't mean that other animals haven't come up with similar ideas. Other intelligent species may well have evolved the same hyperactive agency detection device we did, and may well have invented their own mythologies to explain the rain and snow and sun and moon like we did.

          Sure, they can't express it the same way we do without opposable thumbs and detached hyoid bones, but they might have their own way of making things up in their own languages. We know that elephants have burial rituals and that dolphins have names and that orcas have dialects. Maybe they have myths too. We can't assume they don't just because we don't speak their languages.

        2. ptosis profile image76
          ptosisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Maybe they 'worship' in other non-human like ways such as peeing on the sacred spot. Why else does my male dog go from bush to shrub looking for the perfect spot? Besides, I know my dog worships  me as the awesome "Giver of Leftovers" who every two weeks turns into the diabolical and dreaded 'God of Bath Day'. 

          Buh hahahaha ha - oops I did my evil  again didn't I?

          http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwrwh0IWO41qmxmrao1_400.gif

    4. Paul Wingert profile image80
      Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I do agree that god is imaginary.

      1. Niteriter profile image78
        Niteriterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        So are love, peace, and fear.

        1. twosheds1 profile image60
          twosheds1posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          On the contrary, there is evidence that love, peace and fear exist.

          1. Niteriter profile image78
            Niteriterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I'm with you. I was trying to be subtle. big_smile

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      gustcentposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Who does not believe in the existence of Allah is an infidel and can not debate with him
      But say one word peace

      1. pisean282311 profile image52
        pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        lol

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        jomineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Who does not believe in the existence of Thor is an infidel and can not debate with him
        But say one word meat

    6. boyatdelhi profile image39
      boyatdelhiposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. (Rom:8:19ff)
      http://divinerevelations.info/

    7. kess profile image60
      kessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If God is in your mind and your mind in in you
                                                                                  ... then God is in you....
      How many times have you heard this?

      Except, not all minds understand God so they say he is not or say he is falsely( same as saying he is not)

      So therefore God is the mind that Truly understand Him...

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        Willifordposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Wow!!   Must be nice.   To be one of the chosen that can  know god.   Bet you dont smoke . ever used drugs ..  A right hand of god.   Wow!

    8. profile image0
      AntonOfTheNorthposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Or they have a supreme awareness of god, so much in tune with god that they have no need of the trappings (traps) and rituals of religion to commune with god.

      Ours is not the only way to see the world.

      cheers

    9. ytbot1x profile image60
      ytbot1xposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Or people are imaginary, and exists in the mind of God?

      1. profile image61
        Willifordposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        We are alone..   Is that to hard to except?

        1. jonnycomelately profile image87
          jonnycomelatelyposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Easy to accept when you are totally unknown, no hubs, no followers, no one following you, so...?  hmm  smile

      2. PhoenixV profile image80
        PhoenixVposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        This would seem more likely based on the fact that some who scoffed at the question  are existentially challenged.

        1. colorfulone profile image88
          colorfuloneposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          I had not heard the phrase "existentially challenged".  It almost sounds extraterrestrial, which someone who is existentially challenged over a living God, is more porn to believe in even though there is no factual evidence of UFOs and aliens science fiction is real in the minds of believers though.  Maybe we humans have more in common on differ parallels then we think?  wink   Could they be right?

          1. jonnycomelately profile image87
            jonnycomelatelyposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            So,  if we humans were created in the mind of your god, what does that say about the mind of god?

            A bit like the carpenter who builds a table that has structural weaknesses, so it collapes in use by the people it was meant for.

            On the other hand, if the table was built by the people themselves, any structural imperfections would be learned about, avoided in subsequent versions and any lasting consequenses would rest squarely on the people's shoulders.

            1. colorfulone profile image88
              colorfuloneposted 17 months ago in reply to this

              Well, I think that might say that God has a sense of humor, because its not about us anyway. 

              Interesting question...but, who knows the answer, if there is one.

    10. Onusonus profile image87
      Onusonusposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Because everything suddenly appeared out of nothing for no reason whatsoever. wink

      1. eternals3ptember profile image60
        eternals3ptemberposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I totally agree Onus, just like the It was written in the Koran

    11. ptosis profile image76
      ptosisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think that only people have the ability to think and imagine. My dogs dreams of chasing cats all the time.

      1. Chris Neal profile image82
        Chris Nealposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        That's not quite the same thing, though. Can a dog imagine the dog house they would prefer if they had a choice? Can a dog figure out a way to build that house if he/she wants it bad enough?

        Some of the "higher" animals can create art. At least, we call it art. Of course the Elephant Paintings have merit and beauty, but are they creative in the same way as Picasso or Van Gogh? Do they ever get to a point where they "need" to create?

        Apes can learn limited sign language or how to use a certain amount of symbols on touch chat, but they can't band together to build a civilization. They can't build a hospital or a school.

  2. Toni_Roman profile image63
    Toni_Romanposted 4 years ago

    People are imaginary.  They only exist in the mind of God.

    1. Jerami profile image74
      Jeramiposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      YEP

    2. eternals3ptember profile image60
      eternals3ptemberposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I should hope He doesn't remember He left the stove on when He leaves Heaven because that would be bad for us, I assume.

  3. Backwater Sage profile image61
    Backwater Sageposted 4 years ago

    The animals are aware of God. I hear the birds singing praises every morning.

    1. johndnathan profile image86
      johndnathanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I hear cats recite the Apostle's Creed every night.  Sure it's in cat form, but I'm quite certain it's the traditional Latin, and not the heathen Lutheran or Church or England versions.

  4. Praetor profile image61
    Praetorposted 4 years ago

    Of course animals know of God, I've finally found the proof...



    http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/012011/raptor-jesus-10.jpg

    1. pisean282311 profile image52
      pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      lol

  5. The Smiling Man profile image82
    The Smiling Manposted 4 years ago

    Oh look! another "God isn't real/God is real" post! How original! No wait, it's exactly the same as the previous religion thread made by jainismus. Which is also made to incite,

    1. The Smiling Man profile image82
      The Smiling Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      But you noticed that his thread has over 1700 replies, so maybe people will be attracted to your hubs (all of which you posted in the last 32 hours) after starting such "provocative"  threads that are sure to get people riled up.

      1. pisean282311 profile image52
        pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        @smiling whats provocative in it?...and u r right god is imaginary or real is not new thought...it is one of oldest thoughts...people kept believing in all sorts of god , got over it and invented new ones...so i guess even after 1000 yrs god is real or imaginary would continue to be discussed....

        1. The Smiling Man profile image82
          The Smiling Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Talk pro/against religion are provocative. While I have no problem with such debates, the fact is that this thread is exactly the same, albeit with a different title, as the one I mentioned. I doubt this thread was started to engage in some debate. The original post lacks substance and i suspect was only started as a promotional tool.

          1. pisean282311 profile image52
            pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            @smiling may be it is provocative for most but in my view it is normal thread...

            1. The Smiling Man profile image82
              The Smiling Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              tis a boring and unimaginative thread

              1. The Smiling Man profile image82
                The Smiling Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                it accomplishes and contributes nothing

                1. Praetor profile image61
                  Praetorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  And yet... here you are.

                  1. pisean282311 profile image52
                    pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    lol

            2. EGAD Call profile image60
              EGAD Callposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Normal for HubPages.

  6. ptosis profile image76
    ptosisposted 4 years ago

    I can debate that everybody I observe is only in my mind. (Watch the movie 'Identity'). This debate come from Plato, well before Christian monotheism.

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/other-minds/#3.2

    Does an objective reality even exist? (Watch the movie 'Memento')  Further reading @ http://thebrowser.com/interviews/vlatko … everything


    The idea that you, yourself - call it ego, soul, identity or a unified conception of self is also an illusion is also something that is unacceptable to most people.

    The book that I'm referring to where all these is coming from is the one I read called "Who's in Charge?: Free Will and the Science of the Brain".

    So instead of Neo in 'Matrix Reloaded' meeting the architect, if able to  enter into your own mind, you would meet 'the interpreter'. The hundreds and thousands of little TV screens representing your synapses and the illusion of a self is akin to a political convention: whoever shouts loudest 'wins' and that is your decision.

    But you already made your decision before your 'self' is even aware of it.

    Fight/flight reactions need to be quicker than the relative slower consciousness awareness and that is how con men, tricksters, and fear mongers work in getting you to a decision to part with your money. Your heart and stomach also have neurons about the size of a cat's brain.

    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7250372_f248.jpg

    1. The Smiling Man profile image82
      The Smiling Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I think, therefore I am

      1. profile image0
        jomineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Dante is wrong. I am, therefore I think.

        1. Praetor profile image61
          Praetorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Descartes, not Dante.

          Dante was an Italian poet.

          1. profile image0
            jomineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You are right, I was not paying attention. And to think that I've the divine comedy in my collection, shame on me.

            1. Praetor profile image61
              Praetorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Lol, it happens. I accidentally put Eichmann instead of Einstein a couple days ago. Needless to say that discussion on special relativity went in a whole new direction.

    2. EGAD Call profile image60
      EGAD Callposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Plato was not before Christian Monotheism. You lack an understanding of where and when Christian Monotheism originated.

      1. pisean282311 profile image52
        pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        ya right...infact universe was formed for Christianity.... reason universe exist is to allow humans to follow Christianity...

      2. DoubleScorpion profile image83
        DoubleScorpionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Please explain when and where Christian Monotheism originated?

        Year and Place will do...

        And don't forget, one cannot have Christian anything without a/the Christ...

  7. eternals3ptember profile image60
    eternals3ptemberposted 4 years ago

    Not really related to anything. I've been using the mobile site for a while, so can tell me how long ago HubPages adopted this new forum format? And why? Whyyyyyy?

    1. Praetor profile image61
      Praetorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Sometime this afternoon (est)

  8. The Invincible profile image60
    The Invincibleposted 4 years ago

    No dear, God does exist. He is omnipresent in invisible state. Not really sure why you posted this forum. Or why so many people start more or less the same conversation every other day. It's really frustrating. No offence intended.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      So is the purple dragon in my garage, omnipresent in invisible state.

      1. The Invincible profile image60
        The Invincibleposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Hi , how have you been? I had a gut feeling I would find you somewhere near controversial and religious forums.. Glad to see you smile

    2. Astralrose profile image87
      Astralroseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Well, I can't see him. I can't feel him. But I definitely can see the rays of the sun. I can feel its warmth. I should probably start worshiping the sun because obviously it has more powers than the god that you call exists.

      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Funny you should say that, when my oldest child was two, she told me when you see the rays shining from behind the clouds, thats God talking....Maybe, your just not listening...

        1. Astralrose profile image87
          Astralroseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Actually I became deaf after repeated trying to listen god's ways and words which are so contradictory to each other.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Being stubborn is not the answer....but it is up to you, if you do not care tp listen, that is your choice:)

          2. Dannytaylor02 profile image78
            Dannytaylor02posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            gods ways dont contradict themself maybe it seems that way because you forget that the bible was written over a time span of 2000 years ergo the culture and the way people thought changed over that time....thats just life but his ways have not changed but he has bent them because he accepts we are imperfect and that he needs to give us a lot of leway

        2. A Troubled Man profile image60
          A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Or perhaps, they're just rays of sunshine and no gods are actually talking.

          1. ptosis profile image76
            ptosisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Rays of sunshine though the clouds makes me feel happy. Then I start thinking happy thoughts and entertain a bunch of stuff in my mind that it's "alllllllllll gooooooood".

            If believing something makes a person happy, why annoy the person with logic? Humans are illogical beings.

            http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmhfusYRpU1qbwbi0.pnghttp://files.myopera.com/farisse/albums/608923/pi,art,color,irrational,love,math-506b30104f4afacd4d77f6618c7aae8f_h.jpg

  9. Dannytaylor02 profile image78
    Dannytaylor02posted 4 years ago

    you cant explain the physical world by purely physical means ergo there is something other than physical out there...common sense really

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Why not?

      1. Dannytaylor02 profile image78
        Dannytaylor02posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        haha thats like a child asking his father why cant i fly...you just cant mate

        1. A Troubled Man profile image60
          A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          And, your answer is like a selfish father who hasn't a clue, hence can't even make an attempt to answer the question deserving of his son.

          1. Dannytaylor02 profile image78
            Dannytaylor02posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            i did answer it in my first comment something other than physical, you believe what you want but you need to understand that it is a BELIEF...dont tell me how logical your conclusion is compared to mine because it really is not

            1. A Troubled Man profile image60
              A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Agreed, an irrational belief isn't the same as a logical conclusion.

              1. Dannytaylor02 profile image78
                Dannytaylor02posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                ok you read it how you want im not banging my head against a wall with you

                1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                  A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I am not standing in your way or joining you, you're doing a bang up job all on your own.

                  1. Dannytaylor02 profile image78
                    Dannytaylor02posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    i wouldnt mind if you actually wrote a hub or two but your whole meaning for being on this site is to make up 1 line sentences that contradict whatever someone says about their belief in god...even atheists (the educated ones) will not say there is no god they will only go as far as saying there probably isnt one but your attitude is completely irrational, you dont believe in religion yes? thats fine and completely acceptable but you cant tell me there is no god because you dont know.

  10. seamist profile image71
    seamistposted 4 years ago

    I don't understand these forum thread about religion, the existence of God, etc. What difference does it make whether some people think God is imaginary or not. It says in the bible, "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. There is also supernatural power in God's word. Maybe people who believe in God have strived to get closer to him and know things non-believers do not. Unless one is trying to convert non-believers, what difference does it make? The debate on the existence of God will always exist until the end of the world.

    1. The Invincible profile image60
      The Invincibleposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Rightly said!

    2. Astralrose profile image87
      Astralroseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Exactly! The debate of the existence of god will always exist until people cease to believe. That is why it is called BELIEF. It manifests through the minds. People don't debate on the existence of the sun because its existence is not a belief. It's a fact...truth, whereas the existence of god is just belief, an opinion, an idea that has no evidence to make it truth.

      1. Don W profile image81
        Don Wposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        What about beliefs we all hold which are not based on objectively verifiable evidence, but are nevertheless assumed to be true?

        1. ptosis profile image76
          ptosisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          This is true, even math has assumptions:
          An axiom is a premise or starting point of reasoning. As classically conceived, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy.Aristotle,

          http://www.funnytimes.com/playground/img/126671476623556.png

          1. Don W profile image81
            Don Wposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Actually I was thinking more of beliefs for which we only have subjective evidence, yet hold to be true. The 'problem of other minds' is a classic example in philosophy.

            If belief solely grounded in subjective experience is unjustified, then certain every day beliefs are also unjustified. If such belief is justified, then god-belief is justified. Whether that particular belief is true or not is a different matter, but we can say it is justified.

  11. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
    PaulGoodman67posted 4 years ago

    Yes, God is just pretend, like Santa and his elves.

  12. Sri T profile image81
    Sri Tposted 4 years ago

    You may deny the word "God". But you cannot deny "life" or nature. And something is creating new life, plants and animals. There must be a cause behind it or it could never exist. So don't call it "God" but it is something.

  13. Praetor profile image61
    Praetorposted 4 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7464603_f248.jpg

  14. brimancandy profile image83
    brimancandyposted 4 years ago

    Just a fun comment, from a headline on the newspaper in a Simpsons episode. "Scientists prove Cat heaven real! Human heaven NOT!!"

    Cut little cartoon cat with angle wings an a halo, standing in front of Cat heaven's gate. LOL!!

  15. Oztinato profile image83
    Oztinatoposted 17 months ago

    If a person limits a discussion solely to a stereotype of religion as "right wing fundamentalist back woods Christian" they will perpetuate their own confusion as you have here in this "question". Look at other religions such as the Hindu and indigenous religions. Also what about the dove appearing as the holy spirit? What about St Francis of Assisi? Read it cuz I won't do your homework.
    The real premise is yet another inane failed attempt to ridicule religion.

    1. jonnycomelately profile image87
      jonnycomelatelyposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      It's not about ridiculing religion, but questioning (ad infinitum) the often fanatical claims of some religionists.  Does this ring a bell?

      1. Oztinato profile image83
        Oztinatoposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Jcl
        we all know this is about ridiculing religion under the guise of "questioning".
        These atheist cliques need to do some homework and desperately need to stop stereotyping.
        Check out the latest news about Indigenous Canadian suicide levels and you'll see first hand the effects of cultural/religious genocide. Stop and think what the barrage of religious hatred is doing to Indigenous people. Do cynical atheists realize they are contributing to genocide of such peoples? Does Tibet ring any bells?
        I personally have no restricted "atheist stereotypical" affiliation with any religion but practice total harmony between religions.
        OK everyone start by reading up on St Francis and then examine the plight of Tibetans for homework (let me guess, St Francis never existed and it's all a big conspiracy).
        This topic is vitally important but no one cares to protest about Indigenous genocide. The hot topic these days is who can use a dunny.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image24
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          I speak of American native genocide. It was the worst genocide in human history.
          Even made a few museum displays.

          Hitler took lots of notes from it this genocide.

          Yes most people do not want to listen about the stories of native genocide in general.

          Germans have remorsed well over Hitler and moved on happily, except for Jews.

        2. jonnycomelately profile image87
          jonnycomelatelyposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Thanks for your reply, Oztinato. 

          First point, I agree we should stop stereotyping.  It happens when you group atheists into cliques.  It also happens when we atheists refer to "Christians."  There are good and bad examples in all walks of life.

          Next, I did search for information on Indigenous Canadians.  http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/intro2.html    I was totally unaware of the more recent history and it's mind-boggling!   Such evil bias and bigotry, such cruelty, such hypocrisy coming from church leaders.  The awful things going on in those schools, so similar to what has been happening here in Australia.   

          It really is wicked, no one can be excused.    So, do we start a witch-hunt and throw accusations at any particular people?  Do we say "They claim to be christian, but they can't be real christians."

          1. Castlepaloma profile image24
            Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            The last Christian die on a cross.

          2. Oztinato profile image83
            Oztinatoposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            The existence of various cliques has nothing to do with stereotyping all atheists. It's clear there is a clique of atheists on HP. I'm not saying you belong to that clique but we know who the atheist obsessives are.
            My point is that atheists who denigrate all religion are participating in cultural genocide. By tarring all religions with the same brush of ridicule just because of a "right wing fundamentalist back woods" nagging stereotype, the damage to other harmless and important indigenous peoples is perpetuated.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image24
              Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

              Each Religion I think of as a culture. There is always something to learn from each culture. As we each can encoperate the best of each culture within ourselves.

              The down side of each Religion is it's us against them too often. Each group will end up breaking their own laws greater than anyone else.

              From not belonging to any group except bio organism, arts and love. My rules are simply. Be honest and do not harm, it's easy to keep ethics.

              Religion and Gods must be based on each of our own imagination. For every person's achievement in tbeir lives, was all once imagined first. If you can imagine most people in your Religion are Hippocrates, why lay down with dogs who have flees.

              1. Oztinato profile image83
                Oztinatoposted 12 months ago in reply to this

                Castle,
                your views are far more accurate than most agnsotic atheist types. We both know its about Love, Peace and tolerance be it religion or atheism.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                  Castlepalomaposted 12 months ago in reply to this

                  Yes, at the very core love keeps all creatures alive and well. From the outside appearance much is run by fear by these synthetic coded corporatism who control much of our minds. History repeats it's self, when the abuses becomes too great the collective consciousness of the people change things for the better, not politics or religion.

  16. aware profile image71
    awareposted 17 months ago

    We imagine .Then we invent and build off that. Someday we might build a real god. So take heed.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image24
      Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      We have only one God everyone worships.

      It's name is Government

      1. jonnycomelately profile image87
        jonnycomelatelyposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Nah, CP, the only thing worth worshiping is ignorance.  With that you can get away with anything!  wink

        PS - or should I say, wilful ignorance?

        1. Castlepaloma profile image24
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Lo

          As long as we are allowed to worship the sun, the earth and love ones.

          They can have all the junky stuff and love/hate other imaginary friends.

  17. Castlepaloma profile image24
    Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago

    Government is like Jesus, son of the greedy elitism.

  18. cheaptrick profile image74
    cheaptrickposted 17 months ago

    "is more porn to believe in"???...how much porn is enough to believe in?...and why would you 'need' to in the first place?...Am I missing something here???

    1. Castlepaloma profile image24
      Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      If porn is the negative to love making. The the Bible has too much porn in it, for me.

      I'm addictive to love, may as well admit it.

      1. jonnycomelately profile image87
        jonnycomelatelyposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        And fun, of course.  If it was just about making babies, without any enjoyment attached to it, no one would want to do it....so maybe there was a designer who had his head screwed on right.

        Where and when did the idea arise, that you were not supposed to enjoy it?  Was it some administration somewhere in history that wanted to use this wonderful ability in order to control and subjugate the population?

        Admittedly it's a very strong emotion and attraction, so can become a problem amongst people trying to live successfully in community.  But, carefully and responsibly managed, without undue pressure or bullying, sexual encounters can be a very uniting entity.  Certainly not to be labeled as evil, or "against God's will."  Anyway, if such a god designed and set in place everything that we are and do, he/she/it would have built in this faculty of enjoyment with it.

        "Porn" is only the sick stuff put out by people wanting to make money out of our basic desires.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image24
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Greeks root word for pornography refers to prostitution. At least hookers service willing customer's. Where politicans often enough force unwilling customers towards things they do not want. Then on top of that, these politican must aline with local God practice. Then go fight other imaginary friends (Gods).

          Try to explain that to an Alien who lands on earth. I won't take them to my leader. My leader is standing right here.

  19. Trichakra profile image61
    Trichakraposted 12 months ago

    If god is imaginary then who created humans and universe.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image24
      Castlepalomaposted 12 months ago in reply to this

      You imagined your kind of God out of millions of God's to choose from, did you not? Some geography areas of the world you don't even have a choice of your own personal God. Imagination is the closest thing to God. I can imagine casting a difficult guestion out into the
      Universe, and guess what? I get a better answer than trying to figure it out in my own head. Could be activating my 90℅ white matter subconscious too, in which is more powerful than my conscious mind.

    2. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 12 months ago in reply to this

      No one, no thing.  The assumption of a creator is the beginning of the myth, but it was never necessary.

      1. Oztinato profile image83
        Oztinatoposted 12 months ago in reply to this

        Try googling the new discoveries made by M theory scientists who have now confirmed the existence of God by math.
        Of course it won't be easy for diehard atheists to come to grips with sciences own "maths proofs" of God but if you swallow some pride you'll get there in the end. Good luck.

        1. jonnycomelately profile image87
          jonnycomelatelyposted 12 months ago in reply to this

          The function and objective of math is to convey an understanding.  The answer in any mathematical equation immediately implies a limitation - unless you introduce an unknown, the "x factor."  Then we are back to square one -  God=The Unknown.

          1. Oztinato profile image83
            Oztinatoposted 12 months ago in reply to this

            We are certainly blessed on HPs to have so many atheists who claim to be of Einsteins stature. I look forward to seeing such geniuses all collect their Nobel prizes in the future when they successfully disprove M theory. Either that or are they in serious denial. Who knows. Only time and space will tell.

            1. Live to Learn profile image81
              Live to Learnposted 12 months ago in reply to this

              lol well put.

            2. jonnycomelately profile image87
              jonnycomelatelyposted 12 months ago in reply to this

              So sorry....I am not Dumbledore, just a muggle posing as Harry Potter wink

    3. jonnycomelately profile image87
      jonnycomelatelyposted 12 months ago in reply to this

      This shows the limitation of your mind: the presumption there must be something akin to a person "who" created humans and the universe.
      You are free to have such a point of view, but please understand in doing so you thereby place limitations upon the god in your mind.

      1. Oztinato profile image83
        Oztinatoposted 12 months ago in reply to this

        Please read what the inventors of M theory have recently announced regarding their own maths proofs of God's existence. Otherwise it's pointless to argue with the ill informed or those who are in denial. Do the homework and read the articles and public announcements and then make a comment. Thanks.

      2. Live to Learn profile image81
        Live to Learnposted 12 months ago in reply to this

        You limit yourself with that statement. A 'person' couldn't adequately describe a creator of the magnificence of the universe.

        1. jonnycomelately profile image87
          jonnycomelatelyposted 12 months ago in reply to this

          Very true.

  20. Castlepaloma profile image24
    Castlepalomaposted 12 months ago

    In Theological and Mythology, I can not imagine setting up any kind of mathematical or scienctfic chart toward any one Religion. It keeps getting lost in space, place and time with very little good sense or sound reasoning for all.

    Math would be the best way to communicate with other aliens at first. These aliens better be Catholic or many more people will have a lot of hell to pay for.

 
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