Why religious people grieve so much about death and are 'scared to death' of dying if, when they die, the'll be with God forever? What's wrong with dying anyway? Your born condemned to death...Is it not?
Birth and Death are facts of life... maybe religious folks who've committed lots of sins.... afraid of being judged.
Religious people are afraid of dying because they can't imagine the thought of it just being over, and religion offers an answer to the "after life". That is, of course, if you believe, but deep down, no matter what the human brain can endure in church, most people can't fool their brains in to believing it. If I told a Christian that the sky is green instead of blue, would they get mad at me and argue? No, the wouldn't simply say, "ooookay, Mr. Crazy, whatever you say…" because they know that I would be incorrect. However, if I tell them there is no God, look out!!! They will go crazy on you and get angry and tell you exactly why their is a God etc. Why? Just like any other fact that they know to be true, their reaction should be the same as the sky is green example. Instead, though, they get angry or offended. Why? Because deep down, no matter how much they attend church or read the Bible, they don't KNOW for a fact, and it bothers them when someone questions this very important after life that they so much want to exist….
Conversely, one can make the same argument about atheism. Atheists appear to get angry when you suggest that, deep down, they aren't sure a God doesn't exist. They jump up and argue. I don't see a great deal of difference in atheism and theism by the way the adherents present their beliefs.
To help you understand better, atheism is not a believe, it's the default. That's the beauty of it--by definition, you don't have to believe. It requires no effort. It just is. It's like saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby. Mathematically: you believe that atheism is the inverse of theism; as though you take theism, multiply it by negative-one, and you get atheism. Actually, it's like multiplying theism by zero. It's not the belief of unbelief, it's the lack of belief. The belief of unbelief is Satanism-- itself, just as silly to an atheist.
It is in human nature to question eveything.
God's people knows that there is a better on the otherside. It is really scary when you change.
Just think about your changing your career or even think about that bungy jump.
Each makes your heart race. If you have taken your training to heart and ready you should not panic. You will panic for it is human nature to fight or flee.
I remember when my grandmother died. She could not speak, she did hear us, and she was always trying to tell us things with her mouns.
It was heart breaking to hear her moun. I believe she was trying to get things in order. Even though she could not use words.
I just think it is your choice to be afraid or release with no fear.
for religious people, to die should be for the better. Why the fear, then? It's like having a plane ticket for your favourite retreat...why should you be afraid?
Its the other way around, a spiritual person who has come across god has already died and come back.He knows there is no such thing as death and its just a door to another dimension, the dimension of god where one is anything but dead.
There is nothing wrong in dying.
I thought I've seen you post a few pointless religious topics already. Besides I thought people who believed in God wanted to die because they could go to heaven and see him. Topic creator needs to think before blatantly posting these topics. Talk about pointless...
"Why are undercover witnesses, that used to be a journalist for an international media group, that live somewhere in the Tropic of Capricorn so mean/stupid/insert judgmental word here?"
See how daft that quote sounds, because I don't know you or anyone else that fits that description, and really couldn't make that assumption?
Then why do you insist on judging all religious people, thinking that they are all scared to death? You don't know them all.
PS: That quote wasn't meant to be taken as true, nor do I think that, it's just an example. My sincere apologies if it was taken as such.
I didn't mean it to be offensive, just tried to make my point that it seems as though you're implying that all people who believe in God are afraid of dying.
I liked your article on the Puppini Sisters.
Don't worry mate, it's all right This is just a post.i'm not implying anything, really.Chillout i'm a journalist. I like to confront people and read what people think
On topic however, I'm not quite sure that some people fear death itself, the ending of live, but more of the pain that comes with it. Maybe that's just me, hm.
The real question is how can you have a discussion about this question and keep a straight face. Any good sociologist will tell you that the fear of death is universal. It is not the unique characteristic of the religious.
What's wrong with dying? You don't have a problem with it? Fine. You go first....
Because they know they are going to be judged, and held accountable for their actions. I think it is also the fear that Jesus is going to say, "I never knew you."
He only said that to those claiming they cast out demons, prophesied and stuff, but these claims are said by Christians not atheists or agnostics
This is VERY SIMPLE, religious people believe that if they are IMPERFECT, they will go to HELL. To religionists, hell is a very dark, evil, negative place where one is tormented for....ETERNITY. The thought of hell scares religionists who are afraid of going there despite the fact they are diligent believers. Somehow, they may feel that as if they have failed God & will be condemned to there despite leading what they call a pristine life. There are some religionists who contend that MOST people will go to hell while only a few elect will go to heaven. They even believe that they may be included on the hell list as they may not, in their estimation, be worthy of going to heaven.
I think you question is kind of the other way around. The answer is: People become religious, because they are scared of death.
Hm? I'm not afriad of death. I'm just afraid of pain.
There's nobody not afraid of death, I guess.
I've known a lot of "bad boys" in my time, having grown up part in the streets.
One thing I can say, when they're laying there bleeding and dying, they all cry out for mama and beg to be taken to hospital.
The experience of dying is something not common, and many folks don't know what lies ahead.
Voltaire hated God but it is said that in his deathbed his cry was "You won, Carpenter. I step out into eternity condemned" (not verbatim, mind you, but words to that effect).
On the other hand, those that Rome burned at the stake went to their deaths for the most part singing hymns, it is told.
I don't know.
As far as I am concerned, I am afraid to die, but not terrified of the prospect, because I do have a hope in heaven, and He is a steadfast and sure hope.
And if there is no God and no heaven ?
Well then it follows I have no soul, and if I have no soul, then I have no consciousness and no terror beyond the last breath.
But I know that my Redeemer liveth, and in my flesh I shall see him one day.
I am afraid of dying because of seperation from my loved ones, fear of pain, fear of incontinentcy(inevitable I am sure, and loss of control or freedom...)
Have you never noticed how the Irish and a bunch of other cultures celebrate a person's life when they die?
You'd be surprised how many people have a feeling of comfort and anticipation on their death beds.
I have celebrated many people's life after they died. It is part of my culture.
One day you will realize that a funeral is for the people left alive - not to celebrate their resurrection in heaven,
Just exactly how many 25 year olds have a feeling of comfort and anticipation on their death beds as they drowned or died in a car crash
Another 4LOL moment from the religionist Make Money.
Its is the "death point" which is crucial in a humans life ,this is the moment he can fuse with god.
Thank you for posting. I think you're a beautiful human being
Thank you and welcome
maybe its because that life after is not known to us who are still alive. We don't know how it is after we die so its natural for human being regardless of religion to fear death.
This is mans biggest doubt and fear but it is possible to die and come back- enlightenment what Jesus and other masters meant when they said reborn.
I don't know who the "other masters" are that you are referring to, but I sincerely believe Jesus had a very good vocabulary. So if he had meant "enlightenment" that would have been his word of choice. In fact I have read the Bible alot, and I don't recall Jesus ever using the word "enlightenment". So maybe it would be wise to double check before you advise someone on what Jesus "meant". For your own sake as well as the sake of the person you may be misinforming.
beautyrose is right.
What Jesus meant was enlightment. There are a lot of hidden teachings in the Bible. you don't have to take by the word.
Only an enlightened one can say I am the light.
Correct there is a lot of depth in the Bible and all spiritual books which cannot be taken literally. Even multiple aspects are there for the same sentence or couplet or paragraph.
I understand what Jesus meant simply because I have fused with the Holy spirit like him, I am a knower of god .
Enlightenment - reborn -satori, samadhi- same thing.
If you understand the meaning of reborn you will understand the meaning of enlightenment.
Other masters - prophets and saints who became the light, who found the kingdom of god within themselves.
I understand your first paragraph. I am from a culture that accepts death as part of life and is not afraid to acknowledge that persons life to the fullest,much like the American Native Indian and other similar native cultures.
The goodbyes are done slowly,with the loved ones body present, with purpose allowing the grief process to begin.
Crying is encouraged ,its sad afterall, and laughter also over past happy memories.( the process can take 1-4 days) depends on the family.
I might write a hub about it .
The nearest traditional other funeral I can think of would be a "state funeral" perhaps.
I'd love to read it if you write it. It sounds interesting.
Death is the biggest change I can think of. You are leaving everything you know, your home, your family, and friends - everything. Being afraid of death seems pretty normal, even for religious people. I've known dying people. They all pretty much seem to move toward acceptance and wind up feeling so shitty they just want to go.
I fear dying before I see my favorite sports team win the championship.
Before that, I'm not going anywhere
My aunt just passed and with the most content look on her face she said "i can go happy seeing my Penguins and Steelers win titles in the same year". We'll all miss her. Back on topic One of my biggest fears is dying because i don't want my loved ones to mourne me. I also dont want to miss out on the good times they share.
Belief in God can be a coping mechanism for the fear of death. Wouldn't it be nice if there's really a soul that separates from the body after death?
I don't think the dying is a big deal for me, and if I knew I was going to heaven why not get there quick!!!
I had a friend who new he was dying so we held a celebration before he died and no funeral.
Brilliant and very moving day
makes you think about life
Don't go to your death trembling or with regret for what might have been. Go to your death knowing you did all you could to be of service to your people.
Why are Christians afraid of death? I'm not sure if it is actually the fear of death that bothers us. It is loosing our faith in the the worship of life that is most disturbing. If we can stop worshiping life, the fear of death is not so great.
Death is all part of nature's cycle. I'm not afraid of death, regardless of what form it may take me. A friend of mine once told me that she was afraid of dying, not because she was afraid of going to Hell, but because she didn't know what to expect. I believe that fear comes from not knowing, of not having control, of trusting that all will be okay after.
Most likely it's several reasons. Some of the reasons I've witnessed is that the people dying are worried about those they're leaving behind. They know they'll be grieving and don't wish that on anyone.
For some, it's probably the unknown after death. We have faith that we're going to Heaven, but we're not sure the exact route or process that takes place after death. Besides there are different depths of faith.
Put it this way. I hate having a root canal. I've had several so I know that my Dentist is capable of performing one without causing me pain. But I worry and fret about it for a week or more before my appointment. I'm constantly asking my self all kinds of silly questions.
Then once he's done, I feel silly for worrying. It's quick, painless and there was nothing to be worried about after all. Just like going to Heaven!
Well, I am a religious person and I am not afraid of death. I am afraid of how I might die...will it be painful, violent, uncomfortable, etc.
One possible answer to this topic could be that religious people want to make an impact before they die? They're afraid of dying in the fact that they might not have done all they could. (They believe they have a purpose here)
The only people who are afraid of death are the ones who are not followers of God and his true word. Atheist and other nonbelievers are materialistic their goal since they don't believe in God is to make money seek out instantly pleasure and "live their own life without fear" but death would be the end all their worldly treasures and pleasures so when they die they believe that's the end so atheist and non believers have everything to lose. Christians know their is more and have no fear of death we don't want to rush it but when it happens we know our fate. Everlasting life with Jesus Christ.
Nice words! I appreciate them! by the way, why where u so mad in another thread minutes ago ? Chill out, man Jesus loves you, Im sure ! Peace & love from an atheist to a believer
Can't you see that nobdy can prove anything ? For me you are so blind as I'm for you. And that's the end of the story
Maybe they dont believe in God nearly as much as they claim to. We read scriptural accounts of people who were quite willing to lay down their lives because they anticipated something better after death. In fact, the Apostle Paul said and I quote...having a desire to depart (die) and be with the Lord, or to remain with you. (paraphrased)
I think it is sort of an oxymoron to fear death yet claim to have faith in God. Exactly what some have said previously when we die we go to our God so there should be no fear. I could understand fearing a painful death.
In my case I do not fear death, I would however like to die in a pain-free manner. However, my dread of my dying would be for those left behind who would miss me. I wouldn't want them to have pain...even though I know it is inevitable.
Dying is a complete unknown to us and as humans most of us do not like the unknown.
Well said! The ones we love matter deeply when we can see the loss they will have to cope with when we die. I do not fear death otherwise either.
I don't think it is an oxymoron. If someone believes in God, and believes that when they die they will see their God, it is still reasonable to fear death. It is the loss of the life they are leaving that instills fear.
I'm totally scared of dying. God or not. I don't want to leave the life I'm living.
That is great to hear! Good for you, especially in your youth, luckily it has always remained like that for me through life.
Be careful. This scripture has been proven true...they that love their lives shall lose it, and they that hate it shall gain it, even unto life eternal. (words Of Jesu Cristi paraphrashed)
This is to do with ego and attachment, when you have none that's when you can enter the kingdom of god.
may be we are afraid as we want to see more in this world
may be we find love in our environment and we want to spend ages keep doing what we do and also with the friends and families we chat and live and care for.
I am also afraid as I am the engine of my home-train. Imagining this train without me creates millions of uncertainties in my mind
I agree hubchief, it is harder when others depend on you.
Be careful. This scripture has been proven true...they that love their lives shall lose it, and they that hate it shall gain it, even unto life eternal. (words Of Jesu Cristi paraphrashed)
It does not matter how you phrase it fiery! There is ample science to explain why god is a man made myth.
The major religious tomes such as the Bible and Quoran for example are supposedly designed for all to read, yet they are self evidently unreadable!
This is evidenced by hundreds of religions stemming from the same few books.Non dumbed down humans will see this straight away with just one example, and there are hundreds of ways that this is self evident to all scientific minds except for the few scientist Christians who defend the indefensible..
gawd, i'm such an idiot. Sorry hubchief, this was directed to Colebadie. I'm just seeing this mistake now. Geez!
Thank you all for posting ! I'm happy to see that in this thread nobody's insulting other fellow hubbers. Lets try to keep it that way
If were where so sure about the life after here, no one would have feared, but many fear they may end up in hell or some bad place
you're not allowed 2 promote your hubs in this forum. Please delete
I was posting sn answer to the question, any way am going to delete
Never mind, i never take things personal. and i dont fear death at all. I think the world out there is better.
Angry, mentally unwell little christian! What happened, get too hot in the kitchen?
I'm hoping I'll have a long and happy life but I am quite excited about the experience of dying - I bet it's mind blowing! Call me strange if you like.......
I'm not a religionist but have developed my own spiritual belief system, so maybe that's why I'm not scared.
Honestly, I'm more afraid of those around me dying and how I'd cope with the emotional pain.
not a problem. In fact in my life I have evidenced this. thsoe whom we loved most are not among us. lived very small life. and those who have been neutral are living normally. may be i interpretted it so however believe it very strongly.
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