there IS no God, ok?

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C.V.Rajanposted 15 years ago
Cosette,

It looks your are God! Because you seem to know EVERYTHING that God would not do or be witness to!
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  really?
  
  God sees all and knows all, correct?
  
  what am i missing?
  
  i don't profess to be anything but what i am. did you have a point to make or did you just wander in here to insult me?
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  C.V.Rajanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Cossette,
  
  Sorry that my "attempted" witty retort with a bit of sarcasm ended up offending you.
  
  May I quote what you have posted here in a Hub where I will write in detail on how Hinduism answers such questions? After writing it, I will send a link to you.
  
  CVR
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  no.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  She's a Goddess ! And a beautiful almighty one !
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
See I totally understand Cosette's point on God here. I don't agree that there isn't a God just I see her point. If the God that so many want to take on as their own is a real entity and he came down and opened up to Moses and created the parting of the Red Sea from belief to bring his children out of Egypt to a better land which took some 40 yrs to find by the way and he could show himself as a burning bush and all the other mircles that were performed once Jesus started walking among men and spreading the word of his father, where is he today?

Why would he leave so many to suffer? So, what part are we missing? Will there be another Moses at some point who leads the way for the new Messaih or what?

We are basing all this on blind faith that what is written in a book and a book which contradicts itself time and time again so how are we to truly believe that this entity is out there?
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
Yeah and then the explanation of how I understand where you are coming from seems to have just been jumped over too, lol.

Where is the pain in your post? I see it as valid questions that make sense to someone who knows that food spoils even food for animals, etc.
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  it is easier to attempt to invalidate a person's candor by labeling them as "in pain", therfore they MUST be emotional and not thinking clearly than to answer their questions.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Cosette, I answered all your questions and then some you simply won't accept the answers, If you need more clarity please go to God.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Address ?
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  lynnechandlerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Took me a min on that one Tantrum, but that is great!
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  a true and genuine heart in prayer
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Prayer... Where's that ?
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
Imagine that!!!
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cosetteposted 15 years ago
me, bein' all sad

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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No way! I don't believe you have many sad genes.
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
ROFL!! How cute you are when you are sad.
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i'm God too, apparently, so
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
LOL, ok so I need a witty bowing down to the great Cosette image for here.
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cosetteposted 15 years ago

i have to go now, my bunny is looking for me. goodnight you guys!
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Goodnight, I hope you and the rabbit get a good night's sleep,
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
Night Cosette, TTylaters.
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
Doesn't look like he knows?

Night T.
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sannyasinmanposted 15 years ago
Where is God?
In a certain suburban neighborhood, there were two brothers, 8 and 10 years old, who were exceedingly mischievous. Whatever went wrong in the neighborhood, it turned out they had a hand in it. Their parents were at their wits' end trying to control them. Hearing about a priest nearby who worked with delinquent boys, the mother suggested to the father that they ask the priest to talk with the boys. The father replied, "Sure, do that before I kill them!"
The mother went to the priest and made her request. He agreed, but said he wanted to see the younger boy first and alone. So the mother sent him to the priest.
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The priest sat the boy down in front of his huge, impressive desk. For about five minutes they just sat and stared at each other.

Finally, the priest pointed his forefinger at the boy and asked, "Where is God?"
The boy looked under the desk, in the corners of the room, all around, but said nothing.

Again, louder, the priest pointed at the boy and asked, "Where is God?"
Again the boy looked all around but said nothing.

A third time, in a louder, firmer voice, the priest leaned far across the desk and put his forefinger almost to the boy's nose, and asked, "Where is God?"

The boy panicked and ran out of the room, then hurried home as fast as his legs would carry him. Finding his older brother, he dragged him upstairs to their room and into the closet, where they usually plotted their mischief.

He finally said, "We are in BIG trouble."
The older boy asked, "What do you mean BIG trouble?"
His brother replied, "God is missing and they think we did it."
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lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago
No Maira I read your entire post. I actually am no one other than a person who believes you should consider an answer to the question before smacking someone down and saying pull the plug.

Atheist are people too. The forum has rules against personal attacks and what you did was personally attack them all while saying you are a Christian. In my understanding of what a Christian is, it is someone who loves and brings the word of God to those who do not believe. It is not a person who wants to pull the plug on them.

No, I really have no authority here. Spout what you like it is your option, but I really think if the people who know Christ and can explain in a logical manner the answer to the questions to the OP it would help. The fact that no one has really tried to explain it and no I don't have the answers as you can see by my posts here I am just as confused by things as the OP, but someone could try to give a logical explanation to the questions at hand.
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  Maira818posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  personal attack? did i mention anyone's name? did i say your name or your nick at least :lynnechandler
  i think not...
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Maira818posted 15 years ago
makes perfect sense! Waren E
but there is hope for atheist to be saved. as there is life there is hope, cause once dead then its game over...
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  nikki1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So true my christian sister, high 5.
  If you give your life to God and believe in him, he will
  encourage your life. However, being a christian you have
  a code of inspirational responsiblity to one another.
  And, of yourself.
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  Maira818posted 15 years agoin reply to this
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C.V.Rajanposted 15 years ago
Cosette,

Its fine that you don't want me to quote you.

Any way as the itch to write something as a reply to the very poignant points you have raised did not go away, I wrote a hub on the subject.

It is a human nature that when it comes to our beliefs, we don't budge that easily. I too was like that! But, for whatever its worth, have a look at it:

Here it is:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-God-permits … l-powerful
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underhiswingsposted 15 years ago
NO MAN OR WOMAN would champion religions that are populated with spectators instead of practitioners who are smug about their beliefs and who wear their faith like a "Members Only" badge. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would allow famine-stricken nations with children crying out in their suffering, their mothers' hearts breaking, their fathers desperate, to exist. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would permit little children to be kidnaped, raped, tortured, beaten, abused, or to live in fear. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would look the other way when animals suffer the most unimaginable torment and fate at the hands of the other men and women. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would give a book to the world so chock-full of conflicting content and glaring inconsistencies - It would be truthful. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would make others jump through hoops to please them, then punish others anyway for a tiny thing like looking back. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would give their "children" characteristics and traits, then punish them for acting on those traits. (but they do)

NO MAN OR WOMAN would command their children, or instill fear in them. (but they do)
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Life does. And man or woman have to cope with it. For believers it's God creation. And if it's God creation ,he should be responsible of what he has created. Wether you like it or not., that's logic and make sense. For me, an atheist,it's only life.Nothing more ,nothing less. It's all there is.
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quietnessandtrustposted 15 years ago
http://hubpages.com/hub/Wht-does-God-allow-evil
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  sorry that hub doesn't exist
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  God didn't like it
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  quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  fixed
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  quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We allow evil because it's fun. sometimes it's like an energizer. Makes as feel great, powerful. sometimes evil is useful. we can hide behind it. we can use it as a weapon.And above all, it levels the world. Good can't exist without evil. You know something is good, because evil exists. All along my life I've found Evil useful lots of times.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Good and evil are tools in the hands of GOD and HE answers to nobody on how HE uses them.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  My reply was for quietnessandtrust,who is my friend
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Good and evil are subjective and conditional...
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  GOD does what HE wants with them.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That's an opinion.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  NO it is NOT.
  I speak from experience, not opinions, they are not the same thing.
  I use good and evil just like HE does and that for sure is no opinion!!!
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  sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Okay fruitcake.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Name calling? OK, we can go there.
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  sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I thought opinions were okay.
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  LEFT HAND OF GODposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds more like an insult to me.
  2nd or 3rd grade kind of thing.
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  zampanoposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What's wrong with fruit cakes ?
  
  Anyway, you people here are seriousely changing some laws of physics, especially thermodynamics that says there is
  no perpetual movement...
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  Pearldiverposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What a pity you can't use all that vast baking experience to write some Hubs and have a productive opinion!
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  LEFT HAND OF GODposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If you mind your own business, you will be plenty busy and nobody will really mind.
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  Pearldiverposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Are YOU GAY or is the Lion Your Other Non Productive Hand of wasted space? Don't bother.... I'll just check your IPs.
  Minding my own business.. in a publc forum? What a silly diddle you're pretending to be!
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Experience is not proof. Experience is subjective. Your experience has no bearing on what the one true god is or isn't going to do.
  
  I cannot believe that humans are built in the image of god, because we are so flawed. I think it is completely arrogant. You have no proof of how god acts. You also have no proof that what you do has ANY relation whatsoever to what "HE" does. This means you only have opinion. You also base that opinion against a governing document - the bible. I classify the bible that way because it is a human recording of divine events. This by definition means it is flawed - and based on subjective interpretation. Opinions based on opinions aren't exactly proof.
  
  Don't kid yourself.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Let me be utterly frank with you.
  
  GOD has appeared to me and I have my proof, you assume I got my proof from a book, do NOT assume for me thank you.
  
  Now, you can call me a liar and question me, but that does not take away from what happened.
  
  I was a witness to something that happened to me and would testify in court to it.
  
  Kid myself?.........NOT HARDLY.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  EXPERIENCE IS SUBJECTIVE.
  
  I don't care what you would testify. Show me your proof. If it has anything to do with SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE - don't bother (it's not proof).
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I do NOT have to show you anything as I am not subject to you.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Then you have no proof.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have MY proof...go find your own.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have my own subjective experience, because that is all I can have. I also have my own ideas, that are not restricted by what somebody elses interpretation says I should believe.
  
  http://hubpages.com/hub/God-is-a-Sine-Wave
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If I told you that your computer will shut down for 4:48 seconds and then reboot itself and come back to this page and it happened, you would still not believe.
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  Pearldiverposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Daily Your Delusional world expands.... I think you may find that it really is Flatulance
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I DO NOT believe anything based on anyone else's interpretations because I test every spirit.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  How?
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Listening to it and seeing where it comes from, looking beyond the physical realm, knowing and discerning where it comes from, not paying attention to this dimension, but speaking to it to get it to reveal itself as nothing can hide from discernment of spirits.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Too vague. What methods do you use to achieve the goals listed in your previous post?
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Methods are for magicians.
  
  The ability to discern is a revelatory knowing that requires me to but listen, watch and know.
  
  The Speaking Silence has to be listened to very, very carefully and requires a great deal of discernment.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Methods are not just for magicians.
  
  So, you meditate? What do you focus on while you meditate? Do you actually meditate?
  
  If you could relate your 'methods' to meditation that would be helpful to me. I am very spiritual (NOT RELIGIOUS - 'God gave spirituality to the world. Satan organized it and called it religion.') so I'm open to new methods. Let's hear them. Stop with the vague responses and tell me how you go about listening to higher dimensions without hallucinogens.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is beyond meditation.
  
  Hallucinogens are a waste of time and for children who have fear.
  
  The Speaking Silence is not understood by talking or telling like some sort of on demand audio book.
  
  It is a crime to even try and convey with words, letters or explaining.
  No offense.
  
  You will not find it in a method or book.
  
  It is beyond these efforts.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What a cop out....
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  UpHisAssposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If you just understand that UnderHisWings is correct and knows far more than your puny brain can ever comprehend, you will find peace. Remember - He Knows the Truth. You are merely an ignorant unbeliever.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is not worth a reply as you do not speak for me.
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  UpHisAssposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I speak for All. This wisdom convikted into me. Not given or taken, but I was convikted by the one True Lord. You would never be able to grasp this unless you too had been convikted.
  
  Being conviked is several stages higher in Truth than having "knowledge" "imparted" to you and if you ever reach my level, perhaps you will understand that. For now - you must accept that I have been convikted to speak for you.
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Please explain who is "True Lord".
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is God certainly not Satan.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Each post is better than the last. UpHisAss = greatest alter ego EVER!
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  nicompposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Troll alert
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  As you should!
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  quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Have you found good useful too?
  Which do you use most often and why?
  Do you feel better doing good or evil?
  Or do you sometimes just chose life which is neither?
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underhiswingsposted 15 years ago
GOD gave mankind the responsibility to rule over the creation, so it is today and we see how mankind rules it. GOD gave mankind a charge to take care of business and we see how he runs that business.
Mankind is responsible, something he will NOT admit!!!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  God created mankind ,and as he's all knowing he should know what mankind would do to his creation. And where mankind was heading,thanks to his mischiefs . So who's responsible ? What free will?If by what you believe, destiny is already written ?
  NOTE:And I mean ,that's what you believe, not me. (God )
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  GOD and man have a will...so?
  Mans actions can change the way GOD responds to him, no destiny is written.
  Mankind still today decides his destiny in / by his behavior, in this realm and in others or which there are many.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think so, when you christians belief, Jesus is coming a second time to save you. And that means destiny is written . Your destiny is the second coming. Is it not ?
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I make no assumptions about being accepted by Him upon His return, I am always pressing on, I never say that I got it all wrapped up. I am just busy about His business and carry on. When He returns is His business and I never tell myself I will be there, instead I know I could turn away, deny Him and then be denied by Him. I can change my destiny and lose what I once had, just like anyone else. Like losing an inheritance, thinking you got it before Granny dies and then being removed from the will because you act like an ass!!!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So because I deny God,I'm an ass ??
  Coming from you, it's a joke
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You cannot deny someone you do not know.
  I spoke for myself, as I know HIM and am accountable.
  You are not as you say...so move along.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  .lol: you're funny ! I will move along when I please. thank you!
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I meant move along, like in "as you were" or 'carry on" like you have been.
  It is a military term, I talk that way, learned it, no offense.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  O.K my captain ! Good night! Off to bed
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i'm the first to admit that man is responsible for the state of the world. no one is saying he isn't. people are simply wondering how a loving spiritual being could ignore the cries of the suffering.
  
  what would Jesus do? he stopped to help beggars on the street, a prostitute being stoned, lepers...that must have been the HUMAN part of him...
  
  it does vex me a bit when people tell me i was never a believer or i never got Jesus or the Bible. listen, i prayed every day, many times a day. i read the Bible every day. i really tried to be good on the inside as well as on the outside. when other kids would ask me if i went to church i would say yes and they would laugh at me and call me goody-two-shoes and instead of smugly telling them they were going to Hell someday, or even thinking it, i was just nice to them because that is what Jesus would have done. i loved him and you can't just unlove someone you loved as a child. he was very real to me. i will always love Jesus, even though my perception of him has changed over the years, as i see him as just a man, not the Son of God sent here to die for our sins. just an incredible person who made people believe in him and in so doing, healed them in some way.
  
  you guys aren't the only ones capable of love and spirituality. just because i don't buy into the myth of your Christian god doesn't mean anything. i am sorry i ever asked any questions because instead of getting answers i have sought all my life, you either get told to shut up, insulted or attacked in some way. so do not fret - you don't have to answer any more questions from those nasty old unbelievers.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What do you think GOD should do?
  Stop everything?
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  Maira818posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  sometimes seeking answers from people does not work. we are not God. You can search for it yourself reading the bible. there are lots of samples in the bible of people who literally were torture for believing in Jesus. Yet they did not deny their conviction whatever the circumstances were. i think mind you that sometimes our faith in Jesus needs to be tested. Our troubles or the cruelty of the world would make me so angry as to deny the existence of Jesus? I would hope not... I think
  that is worth gold to eyes of God. take job for example, if you have read the story, how much suffering he had gone through yet still he did not blaspheme against God. What have i or you suffered so far?
  
  i know you will come the herd of sheeps as you might be feeling lost... God bless!
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underhiswingsposted 15 years ago
does not anyone know that "noone" is 2 words?
I see this all the time.
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
There is NO god OK?
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  O.K
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
Here he is folks, king of the world! The only human with proof of god! All bow!
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
Even if it is from the king of the world who is the only person on earth with proof of god?
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Pr0metheusposted 15 years ago
I'm not going to say I would believe. That's entirely possible via a Trojan, or other virus program. If I said I'd believe unconditionally I'd be a pretty weak/unintelligent person. I'd also be lying if I said that an event like that would NOT make me more inclined to believe. If I experienced 'god' for 10 seconds I'd be more likely to believe. I would not however claim that I had proof based on my experience. I've seen a UFO. I believe I saw it - I experienced it. I'm MORE THAN POSITIVE I saw something not of this world. I do not have proof. Make sure you realize the difference between the two concepts.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You see, I do not "believe" I saw GOD....I KNOW I DID!!! Fat diff!
  OH I more than realize the diff. between them, that is why I say I have my proof and that is all I need, I do not need to explain it to anyone anymore than someone needs to explain that they saw a ghost.
  What for? Mysteries are not meant for all to know and I do not care if I am believed.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No you don't realize the difference. If you did you would realize that your 'proof' is really your 'experience'. Fat diff!
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Knowing is not the same as an experience...when GOD manifests Himself to one, it is a knowing beyond any experience and cannot be explained, nor can it be taken away from one.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Knowing is not proof.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You are thinking with a mind that exists in this realm, the knowing I speak of has nothing to do with your mind, physicality or this dimension as it is not subject to this realm or place.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No I'm not. I'm thinking with the subjective mind that restricts humanity. I've experienced extra dimensions many times. I am speaking from the objective stance that most people will take.
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hello young man. One cannot prove 99‰ of things. We are using faith all the time. Why are you opsess with proven facts? Faith does not comes by seen. Did you ever try this? CS Lewis professor of Oxford university, an atheist, driving in three-motorcycle to zoo: God if you are, I am giving my life to you. His life became as never before. He is an author of many books.
  
  I was also an atheist. Vladimir.
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
Then you won't mind if asked politely to go peddle your junk elsewhere then?
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
So much discernment is needed that only you can discern it!
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underhiswingsposted 15 years ago
Letters are to feeble to tell you...they are to weak and useless.
Spoken words are to feeble to get it across to you either.
Your mind is in the way.

The Speaking Silence cannot be explained.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No, but you can explain how you listen to the 'speaking silence'.
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I told you, discernment hears it, the ability does not come from what I do.
  It is imparted.
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underhiswingsposted 15 years ago
The Speaking Silence comes from Sh'kinah and is imparted to one.
It is not figured out by men. Transcends all.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Are you not a man?
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  underhiswingsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  A man who knows better then to take any credit for having something imparted.
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underhiswingsposted 15 years ago
A cop out?

Humility knows when something cannot be explained, but must be discerned and imparted.
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No humility has been shown here.
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ralwusposted 15 years ago
Hah! The Christian's Bible is like Walgreen. The context remains the same, but the Dr's keep changing it.
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ralwusposted 15 years ago
I recall way back in the '60s he was supposed to have died. I think maybe Jesus resurrected him tho'. Sadly, no one can prove such drivel.
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ixwaposted 15 years ago
It was very interesting reading all the responses in this forum. This just goes to show how we all feel about God and whether he exists or not. In this case, reading from history and scriptures, is it not about time came and lived amongst the wondering mortals; i.e., see him, talk to him and identify with him. I look at the Hubbell's pictures... Dang! Everything is so vast and forever, it only gets scarier when you think we are just floating on the tail-end of the Milky way with no one but us. Makes me wonder about all the loud babble crackling out of a lonesome planet with no neighbors. Do we rally know any planetary neighbors? Guess that's why we are looking for something to 'believe-in' and have hope of eternity? Mmm, we are just floating in space with no one near us. Maybe there are others out there, and who knows. The existence of some amorphous and unknowable entity goes back to about 20,000 or more BC. But we are still floating in space, and I can just imagine and hear the howl and chattering of beings on earth, and the timeless, endless space we exist in. These are just some observations and thinking of things anew. You can check out my hub on the Negative Confessions. I am working on developing time as far back as 50,000Bc. Not too long, but neither too bad. We are still hanging in space... us alone on earth... and going around and round the Sun...
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting. We cannot go along with our neighbors how we could get along with the space neighbors?
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TomLouInkposted 15 years ago
This is a fact: you will be brought to your knees, just hope it's before you die. I bet I know who you voted for president, too.
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TomLouInkposted 15 years ago
I do not intend to stir up anything with the non-believers and if they choose to go to Hell, well that's their business. The Lord Jesus said: either you are for me or against me!
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ixwaposted 15 years ago
I am not sure we know if we have any neighbors in the stars and outlying Universe. I think they are scared of us since we have just become aware of our position in the Universal realm and our position in the cosmos. It is also true that we cannot get along with our neighbors, and you wonder if we will be able to get along with our space neighbors. Go figure! At least you are aware that we are a serious case of isolation and never even knowing that we do or do not know we have neighbors elsewhere. I take this seriously, this whole space filled with what we are still discovering- it's like on earth we still believe the Universe is the sun and all its planets; whereas, again,if you recall, we once thought that the earth was flat! Anyway, issues about super beings leaves one wondering, does the Universe have a ceiling, Walls and floor? The Hubbell telescope says No! It simply tells us that we are bored being alone in a nowhere existence. That is our general dilemma as humans, i.e. we are nobody and floating nowhere..., and threads like this help us think and falsely imagine that we are...
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cosetteposted 15 years ago
i have always wondered things like this. the Universe was a lot smaller before the Hubble cracked it open...

BBC Report on Creation Museum
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  sannyasinmanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  There are those that say there are Intergalactic Wars going on at this very time, fought by beings who are far, far in advance of us primitives here on Earth. But at the end of the day, if you believe what the mystics say, WE ARE ALL ONE, and connected to Source, then we all end up in the same place at the end of our lives.
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Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
I do believe in God still but I am UU all the way. Open minded and accept all!

UU= Unitarian Universalists
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Lmoovbuffposted 15 years ago
There is a God and He is so amazing. May God Bless your heart. When you least expect it, He is there, always and forever.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Amen!!
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  Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  out of the same mouth comes blessing and cursing.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Where did I curse you? I tell you the truth about your religion and you since you cannot refute the truth I must be cursing you? More proof your religion is false. I'm not anti mormon, I am anti-mormonism, because it is anti Christ.
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mcbeanposted 15 years ago
Religion is a response to our fear of the unknown. Why does it matter what happens to us after we die? It won't bother us as we will be dead.
What is so terrible about dying and decomposing?

Embrace the inevitability of it all my friends and get on with your life. Once the light goes out, its out for good.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That seems to wrap it up.
  I loved my parents, but have no interest in their graves, they lived, they are gone, I can think of them whenever I like, but visiting the remains underground to worship a myth?
  I don't do it.
  I do not like going to funerals either, I hate public mourning and I am usually upset at the loss felt by those left behind. I would rather allow them some time to mourn privately as I do, and then offer to share any load I can.
  Sharing a false cheery face is too hypocritical for me to pull off.
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  mobilephone guideposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  unfortunately, not everyone can handle that though.
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mobilephone guideposted 15 years ago
there might be and there might not be, it doesn't matter.
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Jennitasiaposted 15 years ago
By faith; I believe that their is a God.

Without God; we would cease to exist.
Without God; we are already dead.
Without God; what purpose do we serve?
Without God; what is the point to life?
Without God; we are but ashes slowly decaying into the depths of the Earth.

When we are without God; we are DEAD.

With God; We are alive.

Get it?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Whoa!
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  Jennitasiaposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  A free gift; but very few shall truly unwrap it!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I get it! I'm a dead person But I have to tell you that even I'm dead I have purpose in my death, I have a point ,and above all, I believe in me. You're so short minded and closed minded that I feel sorry for you
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  Maira818posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  you are such a hypocrite tantrum!
  mind i remind your quote from before?
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  why not ?
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Jennitasiaposted 15 years ago
Beware: Satan was gifted with two attributes:
1. The power of wisdom
2. The power of illusion/beauty

These two factors will lead a person to believe the false mishaps of reality.

I may be closed minded, buy my soul is open.

It feels as if the war or battles of this contriversy is much larger than I ever imagined.

What happened to you that was so terrible that you lost your faith?

Hatred fills you up; a bitter taste is being detected.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do you know me ? I'm a joker. And you know why? Because I'm a happy person. You know why ? Because I don't live in fear. You know why? Because I don't believe in God. I believe in myself. My whole world is ME
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Jennitasiaposted 15 years ago
Despite our differences...I love you

May love rise above all...
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tantrumposted 15 years ago
And there's not a bit of hatred in me. Only contempt
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  Jennitasiaposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well, you walk your road, and I will walk another road...how about that. Let us agree to disagree.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If you stop calling unbelievers, dead
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  Jennitasiaposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Good bye Tantrum....
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Of course you won't. You're not better than the others
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  Jennitasiaposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  your right; I am no better than anyone; that is the point-I put myself LAST.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  the perfect place for you ! goodbye !
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Are you serious Tantrum. Did someone really call unbelievers dead? wow then that person isn't a believer at all!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  They try hard !
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yes they do...but it is really sad when someone says something so stupid as non believers being dead. heartless and stupid!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  An example of 'christian love ' !
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  Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well this might come out of left field, but if you believe that God is love, life, and light and you don't believe in God, then the nonbeliever is dead. It is very judgmental but that's probably how the believers see things. Then again, I could be wrong.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're wrong and they're blind
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Some believers think that. But I am a believer and I don't think that way at all! it's stupid and heartless to think that way and God definitely wouldn't approve!
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  Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed and agreed.
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I like you flightkeeper you can stay lol
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  Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What?! And get in the middle of the a fight and possibly get my feelings hurt? (runs out like a bat out of hell)
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  lol all right you can run but I doubt you would get your feelings hurt you have similar thoughts as me and Tantrum
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Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
And once again the religion forum shoves down other more fun forums *yawn*
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Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
'Christian Love' my arse haha
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You know what ? every time I come to the religion forum I feel I'm such a wonderful person, compared with these christian people
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You are tantrum you are...a lot of believers need to get their heads out of you know where
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No comments or I'll get banned
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Maira818posted 15 years ago
tantrum.

if you say you don't "need" something then aren't you rejecting it?
you did not have to spell out that you were close minded, but it all came down to that in your words when you said you did not need to have an encounter with God.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Look here I was born catholic, so I know about 'encounters 'with God. And I've studied religions and theology. I'm not closed minded and of course I'm not a hypocrite. Maybe i should report you ? Did you forget what i said about hurting your feelings ?
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  Maira818posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  so would you say that you have had one?
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not saying that. I'm saying I know about it . Anyway I'm not talking to someone that thinks I'm a hypocrite. Why would I ? I was waiting for an apology.
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  Maira818posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ok, im sorry. i should have not said that you are a hypocrite because the truth is that i really do not know you.
  
  and my final words are that everyone has the right to choose to believe in God or not to believe. If you have chosen that path of not to believe its your and yours alone. As for me I know myself there is a God who is loving and wants everyone to be saved through Jesus Christ.
  
  I wish you the best tantrum
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you
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Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
Tantrum a hypocrite? HECK no he isn't!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  thanks crazed ! But who cares what they think. Anyway they owe me an apology
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes they sure do owe you one and Maira did like a true christian. the other one still does for saying that nonbelievers are dead
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  debating with believers is a DEAD POINT :lol
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  but not with me since I'm so agreeable lmao
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're so cool that I forgot you were one !!!
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  Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO it's all good tantrum hehehe
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Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
Look Cosette lol you got a wildfire going on in here hehehe
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thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years ago
(reply too long starting over)
Where did I lie about your religion? Why are lying for your religion?
Why does your religion use the bible as bait so the recipient we'll believe you are Christian then tell you tell they can't really trust the bible. Why use the bible at all? Interesting the only parts we can't trust are the parts that discredits Smith lies.

Since Jesus promised at Matthew 24:35 that His “Word” would “not pass away,” isn’t the Book of Mormon calling Jesus a liar by claiming that Jesus didn’t keep His promise to preserve His precious Gospel truths from being lost? Which should we believe? Jesus or the Book of Mormon?

If the Book of Mormon is God’s means of clarifying Gospel truth as prophesied in 1 Nephi 13:34, why are there over 100 Mormon splinter groups that all affirm the Book of Mormon as their foundational Scripture? If the Book of Mormon’s Gospel is really so “plain,” why do all these churches disagree about what this “Gospel” really is?

If Biblical Scripture was distorted by the so-called “abominable church” of 1 Nephi 13, why is there no evidence of this corruption found in the thousands of manuscripts we possess of the Bible today, many dating prior to the formation of the Catholic church? How could these manuscripts all agree with 99.5% accuracy if “plain and precious” truths were removed?

If Smith saw God how you explain Exodus 33:20, Again mormonism calls God a liar.

Your “gospels” are a deception and a abomination to the Word of God.

I tell you the truth about your religion and you since you cannot refute the truth I must be anti-mormon? I'm not anti mormon, I am anti-mormonism, because it is anti Christ.
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Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
Yea right like i'm going to read all that long stuff you guys post. please that is why I hate the religion threads. *YAWN*
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cosetteposted 15 years ago
hey Maddie, if you are reading this, could you please lock this thread? i looked everywhere for your guys's contact information and can't find it anywhere.

thanks!
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  wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this
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