It's pretty clear that the Bible contains descriptions of an angry an spiteful God. It's also pretty clear that it contains descriptions of moral purity and decency. Someone said that everything you need for a good life is in the Bible, but that you don't need everything in the Bible to achieve a good life (by 'need', I mean follow or put into action).
At the end of the day, it's a record of man's search for God and for himself. It reflects a primitive culture's worldview. But, for me, there are flashes of profound tenderness--talk of love, caring for the weak, etc. (Basically the New Testament--minus some troubling things, as always). One of the new terms is "Red Letter Christian", meaning one generally follows the words of Christ.
Love, in the end, is both the method and the goal. One wants to join with Love/God.
I think it will make sense when it needs to make sense, but oftentimes not before. It's between the human heart and God.
Peace
I don't think that any of you have studied your bibles or the history and evolution of it.
Your responses indicate to me that you listen to your preacher and accept without challenge all he says 'cause you think he is an expert on the subject...you follow you do not study and "think!"
You mention this god thing and love in the same breath! Egads! This biblical god thing alledgedly created man in "its" image and then flies into psychotic rages and murders 'em all!
Pls convince me that killing the life you create is love!
if you try, you are just as 'nutty" as your god thing.
The most important verse in the bible? It would have to be the verse that sets the rest of the book up for failure:
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
Agreed Q. The first lie on the first page, I could have saved a lot of reading.
Danny, I suppose you have some explanation as to how the poor and illiterate, those who have never read your myth will die. try to find a quote that doesn't put you on a pedestal while denigrating everyone who has never heard of your bible.
Not only inconsistent, but quite insane. Hebrews 11.6 indeed!
Disgusting!
Yes, that is where I got myself involved. The rest of it then sets out to prove that wrong.
Here are some of my favorites to help wipe out those pesky un believers!
Kill Brats
1 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
2 And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
3 Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)
4 The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
5 When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
I have an abundance of these thanks to the all loving word of god!
The problem with the bible is people. They take scripture and run with it in the craziest directions. I believe God intends us to love each other. Everything else is second. We should even love the sinners, tax collectors, psycho's, the marks and the alleged marks, the brats, and for sure even the earnest's. Aside from that, the rest is just words.
Jeremiah 22:16 He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?" declares the LORD.
That's all there should be to it.
John 13:34-35 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
I just found this thread and have not read all comments.
I'm not a biblical scholar.
But somewhere in the bible, there is something about the golden rule, so, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
This rule is the one that brings peace, not conflict.
Where is it in the bible? Maybe, Greek One, you cite a passage that conveys this idea?
More bible love!
Kill Brats
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
I really like this one. ... shows all the religious tolerance and broad-minded omniscient thinking!
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Now the big question is, which one of you has the right god from reading and understanding "the good book" better than the other 3,000 guesses!
I open the floor to Brenda...
Gee, thanks earnest.
I admit I've not studied that in depth, but have always taken it as a judgement of the Lord's upon false prophecy, relating to the fact that all Believers should love the Lord more than they love their family, even.
God should come first in our lives, second to none.
..No, I don't take it literally as that a parent should kill their unbelieving son or daughter, in case that's your slant!
But I do think it shows God's intolerance of evil. And He IS the One who has the right to do with each of us as He wills. He made us and He can take us out, anytime.....
Thanks for the reference, actually. I could stand to study that one some more. You might also get some more Christians' opinions on it too. Especially since I know you're very focused on those types of Scriptures.
Well he is lousy at that too!
I have almost, "almost" been killed more times than I can remember, I have always flirted with risk, racing bikes and cars, felling timber and working around large machinery.
Your god does not exist Brenda, you live in a fantasy world with a dead person controlling your every thought.
I feel very sorry for what it does to those who have to put up with your interference in their lives and listen to your moralising.
I don't feel sorry for you though, as I know your belief sustains you through trials and past truths.
Well, earnest,
You may think you were just flirting with fate or disaster those times, but I'm sure it's just that God keeps giving you chances to get your soul saved.
You might wanna consider that.
None of us have a guarantee of tomorrow, or even our next few breaths....
"In whom I live and breathe and have my being"....that and "which of you is without sin, cast the first stone"
I know this is not in the bible, I wrote it, but it's noteworthy:
Two slaves are in a mud pit together. One slave lifts his shackled hand, waves his outstretched finger and says: "You're not working hard enough in the mud pit". The other looks and says, "And we are both still slaves in that same pit".
Just then, the slave master came by and asked which one was a better slave. The one who accused the other answered and said, "I am the best slave you ever had master!". "Good, said the master, "Now, get back to work!"
The other slave he took from the mud pit, made a king and called him brother.
-James
Parents... love your children as christ loved the church , I'm not a real bible freak but this one makes sense to me
the most important verse of the Bible, I have to say there are two
Psalm 117
this chapter only has two verses, it is the shortest chapter in the Bible, and also it is the center of the Bible, if you count all the chapters of the Bible.
Praise the Lord, all ye nations
Most important verse:
"This book property of Mariott Hotels......."
whoops wrong thread
what is the most important verse in the bible ?
I think there are very few verses in Bible which were spoken by Jesus; and which have been mentioned in the Bible. In fact, I find only one suche verse in the whole Bible which he spoke while he was on the cross,"Eli Eli Lima Sabaqtani"; it is in Hebrew; and there is not other verse in the whole Bible.
It means "O'God , O' God; Why you have left me?"
And God Allah YHWH heard this one of Jesus' prayer in agony and He saved Jesus life on the Cross. We should thank God Allah YHWH for saving Jesus' cursed death on the Cross. Shouldn't we?
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
that is not Hebrew, that is Aramaic dialect.
some of which is still spoken in Armenia, Jordan and Lebanon today.
Hi friend Twenty One Days
I meant the original language Jesus spoke; this is lone verse spoken by Jesus and quoted by Bible;other verses are not from him.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
REV 22:13
{22:13} I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
The most inportent is Acts 2:38, Repent and be babtised for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. With out abeying this command, you can folow every other command in the bible and it wont do you any good. You have to be free of all your former sins to even get on the hyway to heaven. Then god will teach you with the aid of the &Holy Spirit how to follow his commands.
The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life thru Jesus Christ our Lord. Says it all.. death to all, life to all. Better than sherwin williams, we is all covered.
By grace are ye saved through faith. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
"And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these (Mark 12:30-31 KJV)."
In my own philosophy, I find the second half the most relevant and compelling.
I like a spot of murder in my bible verses.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
That is all most people need to straighten them out, a spot of murder.........
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Feels good to believe in the word eh?
I like that scripture that says "And let us drink to forget our problems!"
This one may be the most neglected?
If I were going to get a tatoo it would be this verse on the back of my hand.
Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged;
Condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned;
Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
Seems to me that when we do any of these things outwardly;
it IS going to COME HOME to rest.
If we don't want to have to eat it...
don't serve it to anyone else.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
the whole Bible is important fot finding our way, but if you want to pick out one verse, go to the center of the Bible, if you count all the chapters of the Bible, you will find that Psalm 117 is the center, it is also the shortest,containing only two verses, first verse says O PRAISE the Lord, all ye nations: praise him all ye people
what is the most important verse in the bible ?
There is only one verse in the Bible in the original language Jesus and Mary spoke.
Matthew 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying: Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
This must therefore be the most important vesrse of the Bible; rather the only one.
Jesus was promised by the Creator-God Allah YHWH that he would be saved a cursed death on Cross.
And God did save him; but the Christians don't believe in him; alas!
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Oh when the saints...
Oh when the saints...
Oh when the saints go marching in!
I think the most important verse is Isaiah 46:9-10
(2 verses actually)
It establishes who He is and that everything is part of His plan.
"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all my pleasure."
I am the way, the truth and the life....no one gets to the father except through me.....how does the watchtower understand this verse...for they say the way is via their faithful slave, who, it turns out aints so faithful and discreet....maybe their writers in Brooklyn should go and write for star trek...because what they write is really out of this world...total fantasy...me, I will stick with what christ says and follow him...
I enjoy these little pieces of the lords word myself.
You know, all the luv an peace, kindness, forgiveness etc.
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Yep, ya can't beat a spot of biblical luv to start the day!
earnest, great pic of you....does that kill people that dont listen to priests apply to Jehovah witnesses that dont listen to their self appointed slave?
For God so loved the world that he gave HIS ONLY SON,so that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but have ETERNAL LIFE...God showed his great love for us, by sending Christ To die for us while we were still sinners. John 3:16 Romans 5:8
John3;16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
The final sentence in John:"These are just a few of the things Christ did and said.If you put them all into books they would fill up the whole world"
Oh when the saints...oh when the saints...oh when the saints go marching in!!!
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of strength, and of love, and of a sound mind. (2 Timothy 1:7)
The most important verse in the bible is John 3:16; However, John 3:16-21 is the true essence of Christendom.
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