What do you know about Mormons?

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  1. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    A Mormon Bishop got on an elevator on the 10th floor, (he was heading to the lobby) on the 8th floor a beautiful woman walked in. (they were alone) On the way to the lobby the gorgeous woman hit the stop button. She turned to the Bishop and said:

    "Can you make me feel like a true woman?"

    The Bishop said: "I sure can" and excitedly took off all his clothes, he then threw them in the corner of the elevator. He turned to the woman pointed to the clothes and said:

    "Now fold them".

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      Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      lol

    2. goldenpath profile image68
      goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Almost funny. smile

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      theawwwbutmumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I laughed smile

      1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
        Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        me too...

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    sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago

    You're great!big_smile

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
      Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, he is a good man. (and I think you are as well)

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    Denno66posted 15 years ago

    They have a great choir. big_smile

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    Denno66posted 15 years ago

    Well, they do have a great choir. I stand by my statement. big_smile

    1. goldenpath profile image68
      goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      They most certainly do, and of the highest character and integrity! smile

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        Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I've seen them on televised specials; they are so well-rehearsed and their voices are quite moving.

  5. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
    Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years ago

    For the record...

    I do not believe that these are the end of days.

    1. goldenpath profile image68
      goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, I agree.  However, they are the last days leading up to the millenial reign of Jesus Christ.  Then come the awesome work to take place in that thousand year reign.  After that will get dicey, but is bound to come as well.

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      Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      agreed, these are the beginning of eternity.
      well said, Mr. Roberts, well said.

      1. goldenpath profile image68
        goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        All time is eternity.  It's a matter of perception.  Common Christianity see this as the last days, as in the end.  We see it as an end of an era leading up to the millenial reign, when for a season of a thousand years the dead shall have their resurrection according to their order of worthiness.  The righteous shall be resurrected in the mornings of the First Resurrection and so forth.  Satan will be bound for that time.  After the millenium the Adversary shall be loosed for a season prior to his conflict and eventual celestialization of the Earth when it shall be literally brought back near unto God for the righteous to inherit.

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
          Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          ok now you have lost me...

          this sounds vaguely like the ancient jew's view of the universe...

          If this is what Mormons believe, then they have missed the point, in my humble opinion.

          It is not a competition, there are not those that are more worthy than others, there are simply people that are different, as God intended. No one is more 'holy' than the next. No one is more deserving than the next of God's love.

          There are an infinite number of holy paths to God. None of them are better paths than the next. They are simply different flavors. The path that is most comfortable for you is the path God intended for you to take.

          I am starting to feel like you are telling half truths, saying only that which makes you look good. That may or may not be the case, but that is what I am feeling.

          1. goldenpath profile image68
            goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            It's all part of the eternal perspective of the Plan of Salvation.  One era leads to another in effort to sanctify and justify all humanity, the dead and the living, unto the eventual exaltation of many.  It's the ancient views that are less tainted by modern renditions of succoring man's wants and desires.  I have no problem believing in the doctrines Jesus Christ originally set forth in it's purity.  If that answers all my questions versus modern "superficial" scrapings of the gospel then I'll go with the former.

            I've been studying, questioning and testing for decades.  I'm not perfect by any means but I do know what was practiced and taught in ancient Christianity and it's not the normal mainstream that's taught today.

            1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
              Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Good Luck with that.

              Peace and Love, Mikel

            2. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
              Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Being older doesn't make something purer, it just makes it older.

          2. Mark O Richardson profile image82
            Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Mikel-
            I agree that there are multiple paths. But I also believe that many paths can converge with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

  6. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Who just happens to be imagined! lol

    Ya see, it's not all the curly use of whoever's religious tome, it is the whole omni bloomin everything does nothing never been proved sky fairy that is the problem for me! lol

  7. goldenpath profile image68
    goldenpathposted 15 years ago

    It's late.  Good night to all.  Now the woodwork can open up! smile  Have fun with the feeding frenzy. smile

  8. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Methinks thou protesteth too much! lol

  9. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    "First invent an enemy" lol

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah!  I bet Smith went through several different titles for Satan before he settled on "Adversary."  It was better than the one he made up for the angel "Maroni."  Sounds like some kind of pasta named after the inventor of the radio.

      1. earnestshub profile image71
        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I'm surprised he could spell it! lol

        1. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          The multiple wives thing Smith came up with was probably a very successful recruiting tool.  I can picture the response of the prospective Moronian males, "Let me see if I understand this, I get as many wives as I want, even a few young ones, and all I have to do is believe old Joe's story?  And the women have to obey me too?  Amen Brother!"

          1. Mark O Richardson profile image82
            Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Ignorance. It wasn't a recruiting tool.

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    Onusonusposted 15 years ago

    Two things I can't stand;
    1)People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures,
    2)The Dutch.

  11. iantoPF profile image80
    iantoPFposted 15 years ago

    I've been reading this thread and, apart from some silliness it's fascinating.
    Because of the Mormon's aggressive missionary activities they have caused a lot of mainstream Christians go to their Priest or Pastor and ask the questions that the Mormons raise. The result is that they have forced a discussion within Christianity and have set the agenda for debates on such matters as the Atonement and continued revelation. This is truly interesting to those who see philosophy as an expanding, evolving discipline rather than a set of principles carved in stone.
    One of the first Hubs I wrote was on the unique doctrines of the Mormons. Their history, driven by their religion makes a worthwhile study. There is a case for comparing their formation and development with the birth of Christianity. Sadly that is no longer true. They have taken a different course.
    A question though; Mormons try to be as Godlike as possible. To be Godlike, to be as much like their view of God as possible. However, under their system of beliefs, God is a polygamist. So why do they disaprove of polygamy? I understand the political and legal arguments but those are negated now. There is no law against co-habiting in any relationship group. So why do they not wish to follow God in this respect?

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      Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Two reasons for that;
      1) It is against God's law to cohabbitate, and we are only to have relations with people who we are legaly and lawfully married to.

      2)Polygamy was disbanded by a Prophet, and unless another Prophet receives revelation on the subject we will not enter into that institution.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        So the laws depend on the "Prophet" at the time?  One prophet likes the ladies, another is happy with just one, so this makes sense?  How do you tell if they are prophets?  Do they have to make predictions to test their abilities?

        How are the prophets chosen?

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          Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Hey, snake boy, I wasn't talking to you. Why don't you go take another bong rip and go watch some Sponge Bob.
          Have a good one wink

          1. Hokey profile image60
            Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            That wasn't very tolerant.   hmm

            So that is how Mormons are?  neutral

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              Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              I don't know, do you base your misconseptions of other peoples cultures on the rantings of the few you don't like?

              1. Hokey profile image60
                Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Are you always so hostile and angry?  neutral

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                  Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I am in no way hostile to anyboby, just ask me.big_smile

          2. Randy Godwin profile image61
            Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I still think you should changer the O's in your avatar name to A's!  Certainly more apt!

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              Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              And I think you should stick that little snake avatar where the sun don't shine. wink

              1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                See my last post!

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            A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I like Spongebob, Patrick is my favorite.

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        (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this

        In other words, when you decide to create a prophet to suit the agenda du jour.

    2. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      iantoPF-
      Well said.
      I like Onusonus's spunk and whit, but not all "Mormons" are the same.
      Not all prophets are the same, but the Holy Ghost can testify that to you that he is a true prophet. A true prophet brings us closer to Jesus Christ. Times change, so a prophet can help us on our journey.

  12. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Once two Missionaries decided to go pheasant hunting. Since they were inexperienced they just asked the sporting goods dealer to fix them up with everything necessary for a successful day. On his recommendation they bought shotguns, shells, hunting clothing, licenses, a bird dog, etc. Early the next morning the went afield with great excitement to pursue the elusive pheasant; but immediately encountered difficulty getting their new bird dog to perform. Finally one of them became so frustrated he said,

    "I don't know what that guy sold us, but it ain't no bird dog! I've had it with this mutt; I'm gonna shoot him!"

    "Wait! Wait", implored the other, "we paid $500 bucks for that dog, give him just one more chance."

    "All right", said the first reluctantly. "You throw him up once more, and if he don't fly I'm gonna waste him!"

    1. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Just using old jokes and inserting people you don't like (for some reason).

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    skyfireposted 15 years ago

    Spongebob FTW.       \m/

  14. iantoPF profile image80
    iantoPFposted 15 years ago

    Meanwhile, back at the point;
    Mormon attitudes against polygamy are largely influenced by their doctrine that the law should be obeyed. So another question for latter day saints. Should the law be obeyed in every instance? for example, the UK has anti-blasphemy laws. Rarely enforced but they do have them. The Islamic community has been pushing for years to have Islam included in those laws. If they become successful, would Mormons be willing to state that Mohammed was a false prophet in violation of that law?
    I can think of many other examples of where the law might conflict with religous principles. How would a faithful church member react?

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      Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not a church leader but a likely answer would be, that it is against our doctrine to go around debating people on who in other religions are right and who's wrong.
      If it is an issue which infringes itself on our right to worship according to the dictates of one's conscience then we would have to sustain the law, and do what we can to litigate against such injustices.

    2. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
      Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Let me take a stab at that. Please refer to: http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?local … 82620aRCRD
      or
      http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideN … 82620aRCRD
      for a talk where can be found the quote “This Spirit never generates the feelings of distinction between people which lead to strife.” I hope this answers your legitimate question. My personal belief is that when matters get bogged down into legalistic arguments, the Spirit (vis-à-vis revelation) takes precedence.

    3. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with Onusonus, but there is at least some truth to what Mohammed taught, but I would not be able to say if he was a prophet.

  15. goldenpath profile image68
    goldenpathposted 15 years ago

    I was right!  After I retired for the evening the frenzy did begin.  I wish to thank the usual participants for being so timely in their entrance.  Actually, it is good to see.  For a group of individuals who profess there is no God, to be lurking on religious forums would stump some people.  However, it further proves that they have true interest.  So, from that angle I shall hold no grudge for your behaviors.  It's too bad people have to take sincere conversations and drag them down to the pit of a public restroom.  However, because of your genuine interest I will continue to show love and cheer for each one of you.  smile

    You may slander the Church and it's leader all you want.  It changes nothing - and the Church continues to grow!

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
      Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Very Nicely Stated. Kudos.

    2. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      And you can slander our historians and scientists with your pitiful ramblings about a civilization which never existed.  Your silly belief can't make up its mind whether to have one or many concubines to warm your bed.  The "prophets" decide for you.

      And you are a priest!  Are you denying Joseph Smiths past as a con man?

      1. goldenpath profile image68
        goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I am denying you as someone to take seriously.  I am denying that the "many" who purposely follow me are, indeed, hard hearted.  It is evident that there is much contention within the heart and soul of "these" who seek to slander another faith.  Activity of this nature would not take place if it were any other faith.  None of them.  Curious how the serpent enters the hearts of so many that they may do his work in confounding the hearts and minds of all mankind.  To do his will in seeking to strip the liberty and freedoms of choice from all who wish to study and learn the beliefs of another.  The veils of pride have served to bring about self importance and the "gotcha" syndrome as they continue to beat at the door of faith.  Is the anxiety within in such a state of unrest that, as the beasts, they feel the need to frenzy as if in a harem of heat?  Wives and concubines?  You're not ready for even the simplest of doctrines yet.  We've stated that we believe in one spouse.  That is sufficient and even that is incoherent for "these" to understand.  The blackness of the heart is as a cancer and will only serve to decay yourselves. 

        To continue in slanderous activity without any depth of knowledge of what you all are talking about belittles the use and productivity of HubPages forums and degrades your openness and willingness to learn.  If any one of you would have taken the time to test any of my suggestions to gain your own truths your entire attitude and persona would have changed and your hearts would no longer be black with self pity. 

        Mark my words, the veins and virus of pride will get the best of you.  At the same time it is YOUR pride.  YOU have control over it.  It's YOUR agency that either feeds it or dissolves it's cancerous affects.  YOU have the choice to be happy or miserable.  Pride and happiness cannot function together.  Pride deceives.  Pride makes one feel happy and fulfilled from the degrading of others.  This is not happiness but misery in disguise.  No religion, no doctrine, no up or down - if there is but one overwhelming testimony of truth that I wish to extend to those who have chosen such a path it would simply be that pride kills.  I say it with true concern and sincerity.  Unfortunately, those who have made a career of this path are probably not ready for happiness as they have proven unable to handle the technology of the internet with reservation, mastery and tolerance.  I won't lie.  Your slanders do hurt and so you have succeeded in that part of the adversary's plan, but you will never weaken my personal testimony and the things I have learned. 

        Pride kills, and that's all I've got to say.  You may now continue the slander. smile

        1. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Accusing someone of slander is a serious charge,GP.  Why don't you just prove me wrong in my statements, too much trouble?  It's easy enough to research your claims of an ancient civilization, because there is none.  Just pride on your part not to attempt to explain why.

          You preaching to me about pride, and how it darkens my heart, says a lot about you and your beliefs.  Because I know there was no ancient pre-Columbian civilization with a method of writing and recording history at the time, I am doomed to darkness by you.

          You have no explanation for the lack of artifacts created by a literate group of over a million people.  You make claims anyone with any logical understanding of archeology would laugh at and expect people not to scoff. 

          I do not need you to lecture me about the "use and productivity of Hubpage forums." Nor about the degradation of my "openness and willingness to learn."  I do not come here to listen to the gibberish of a cult member expecting to learn anything of importance. 

          And don't flatter yourself, I am not "following" you.  Why should I?  You have nothing of importance to share, other than your own sense of pride.

          And you are wrong once again.  Slanders do not hurt those who know the truth.  And the truth is not slander.  Too bad you, as a priest, detest the truth so greatly.  But I suppose denial is a requirement in your cult, otherwise it would not exist.

          Keep preaching about peoples hearts being darkened and how they won't listen to you even though you are more knowledgeable about the history of our country than leading scholars, historians, and archaeologists.  And you speak of MY pride!

          I agree with you on one thing though, I do not wish to discuss anything further with you.  If you are a priest, I can only imagine how ignorant the ordinary cult members are.

          Peddle your->

        2. Pandoras Box profile image59
          Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Nobody follows you for the sheer purpose of pointing out how wrong you are. Jeez, talk about pride problems. Check your ego, man. Your religion is no different, truer, or more special than any other.

          Yeh and no, lol, we're not agents of the adversary because we disagree with you. Out of concern for you I will tell you that it's all just part of your delusion.

          It's very simple. You make outlandish assertions and are questioned to back them up. Then you get mad and accuse people of persecuting you and working for the adversary.

          Blah blah blah. Get a grip, man.

    3. Pandoras Box profile image59
      Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Oh please... You're a master at crying persecution, gp. All part of the plan I guess.

      It's true though that your proselytizing techniques are among the best no doubts. Your members are well trained and in truth that is what all your "charitable" missions are all about. And let's not forget your clever use of children and the boyscouts.

      The growth of the LDS church is however grossly overstated. You guys consistently lose about as many members as you gain.

      1. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        or more.    neutral

    4. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Public restroom...lol
      goldenpath, well stated albeit a little wordy.
      People who disagree are just people. With their opinions that they hold fast to.
      Pandoras Box-We are disassociating ourselves from the Boy Scouts at the end of the year because they have become too liberal.

  16. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Hey Golden, you got rid of the snake! Good for you.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      How was that apple?  Feel any smarter?

      1. Flightkeeper profile image68
        Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Man you are a bitter pill.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry, I must have given you a lemon by mistake.

          1. Flightkeeper profile image68
            Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I said bitter not sour roll

            1. Randy Godwin profile image61
              Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Persimmon, I knew it!

    2. goldenpath profile image68
      goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I thank you for your kind words.  However, I was never trying to discard anyone, just clarifying something so very apparent but is invisible to those who cannot see.  I care not about "converting" anyone.  To me, it is pointless over the internet.  Conversion takes place, face to face.  As said many times, I understand and tolerate all systems of faith, belief or lack of.  It's personal agency which a gift and part of our eternal design.  Yet, there is no reason to continue accepting pre-pubescent behavior from an adult.

      I thank you again.  It is refreshing in here to hear a friendly voice. smile

  17. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Hey Golden, got any more snake repellent? lol

  18. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
    Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years ago

    Goldenpath is doing a remarkable job on this forum. It can be terribly frustrating having to deal with people who are not aware of the complimentary, albeit gruelling relationships between History, Science, and Religion.

    1. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That and people who think they know it all.

    2. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, trying to pass off false history as reality is a toughie

      1. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
        Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Mr. Godwin, are you not aware of all the recent discoveries on the North American continent, evidencing a great and intelligent people who seem to have vanished? This does not include Central or South American recent discoveries.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I am aware of none which remotely suggests anything Jewish in origin.  Nothing to suggest the fables related by the priest have been discovered to my knowledge.  But I am always open to factual discoveries, so enlighten me.

          1. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
            Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I'll just relate what limited knowledge I have of them (North American discoveries of ancient great civilizations).
            1.    A number of years ago a great stone wall/fortress has been discovered via aerial photography on Cape Breton Island. The stones have been known about by the locals but never on such a scale, which now has the scientific community buzzing.
            2.    Large mounds of earth all over the mid-western United States, demonstrating a vast, organized culture.
            There are many others; others more and less recent, and others more and less significant. I now leave the research to you.

            1. goldenpath profile image68
              goldenpathposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Hi, Tim, how's life up there? smile

            2. Randy Godwin profile image61
              Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              My research into the archeological discoveries of the Americas is always continuing, Tim.  If you took a look at some of my hubs you would already know this.  I am aware of many sites being studied in both North and South America.

              But still, there has been nothing discovered, to my knowledge, which gives any credence to the priest's version of history on this continent.  Anyone can claim anything, but those who denigrate others because they won't buy into their ludicrous beliefs do not deserve much respect.

              If anyone cares to go through the past posts by myself and GP. they will find the priest being the one who calls me names because I ask for explanations and proof of his claims.  Find an instance where my statements are false about the Mormon cult or its history.

              The priest always resorts to cursing me with bad things in my future or calling me a slanderer without explaining what exactly I said that was slander.

              But as I said earlier, I am open for hearing about the discoveries which support GP's case.  Anyone?

              1. Pandoras Box profile image59
                Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Hey Randy, great hubs! I just read a few of them, and I look forward to reading more. You write wonderfully, and you've got a great gift for bringing a scene alive for the reader. Good stuff!

                1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                  Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks, PB!  I try my best to write what I know.  Gotta work on my blind faith and tolerance though! LOL

                  1. Hokey profile image60
                    Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                    Flightkeeper will help I am sure. smile

            3. Pandoras Box profile image59
              Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              That's all they've given you? An old stone wall debated by archeologists to be either chinese or norse in origin and remnants of the moundbuilders?

              Maybe you should do some research. If your LDS leaders are telling you this stuff is proof of their claims, you really should check it out.

              1. Hokey profile image60
                Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Most likely Native Americans.

                1. Pandoras Box profile image59
                  Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  That too. I did read something somewhere sometime about some stone wall in america that was thought by some to be possibly druid. But that was a different stone wall I'm sure.

        2. Pandoras Box profile image59
          Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Please provide your sources showing links or even remotely possible links with mormonism.

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I don't suppose that great and intelligent people might not be, uhh, let me think, NATIVE AMERICANS

            1. Pandoras Box profile image59
              Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Nah, couldn't be...

          2. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
            Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Pandoras Box. Just so you know, I did not promise to provide any links, but rather I suggested that Randy do his own research (which he says he does). The relation to Mormonism is this: when you understand that the Book of Mormon sprang from the Golden Plates (and I believe, Brass Plates somewhat as well), you will also discover that these records are hidden in the mountainside of Hill Cumorah, in upstate New York, AMERICA.
            I frankly don’t understand what is so hard to believe about the existence of ancient American civilizations, AND THEIR RECORDS. As far as I know, most Ocean Voyagers, Cultures, and Royal families KEEP records, even to this day.
            When one can believe that God spoke to his chosen few (whomever they may be), He demanded that honest records also be kept, not for His benefit, but for ours, and for our posterities’. Nothing is hard to believe about that. Trust me, even if you can find no sentence of truth in the Book of Mormon, it is a FASCINATING read - indeed, one that is hard to put down. It relates many compelling accounts of the aspirations, progressions, tribulations, and wars of an ancient people, all physically originated from the old world (i.e. overseas), hence the Jew factor. I cannot say from memory just how directly they were related, and I do not wish to argue with people.
            Whenever a new scientific archaeological discovery is made in the Americas (perhaps not including dinosaurs), it bespeaks to this very civilization, whose record is widely dismissed as fiction, but also has withstood scholarly scrutiny since being brought forward.
            Finally, I would like to remind people of the honest disclaimer at the front of the Book of Mormon where it says something along the lines of IF THERE ARE any mistakes in this book, let them be the mistakes of man and not God.
            Joseph Smith too, was only human. I personally have great respect for this man, and believe that he has accomplished a marvellous work and a wonder (see Isaiah) with the help and blessing of our Lord. I also realise that with great responsibility comes great temptation, and that Joseph Smith the man was not perfect.
            Pandoras Box, I hope this helps you and others gain a better understanding of some aspects of the Mormon faith, which is a Restored NOT Protestant gospel.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image61
              Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              I believe you are sincere in your beliefs, Tim.  However, this does nothing toward meaning you are correct in them.  Some ancient beliefs required parents to sacrifice children to their gods.  Is your faith as strong as those ancient people who believed so strongly as to give up their children. I seriously doubt you would do so.

              One could argue the god of the ancient people is more influential than yours because of the much stronger faith of its followers.  Not trying to compare your rituals with theirs, just showing how having strong faith in something is not proof if its worthiness.

              I am truly sorry, but the Jews were not known for their sailing ships, especially one capable of carrying the lost tribe to America.  The novel by Smith is not historical or prophetic.  I'm sorry you cannot tell truth from fiction.

              1. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
                Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Randy, I will accept your position as yours, but I too am sorry that you insist my beliefs are fiction.

                1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                  Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I would be the first to back up your claims if there were any evidence, whatsoever, of yours or GP's historical accounts.  As stated earlier, I will be more than happy to examine any evidence you can find which relates to your claims.

                  Imagine if I claimed Mickey Mouse was really a god.  Would you just say "well, Randy said Mickey is a god like mine, so okay?"  Or would you doubt the veracity of my claim?  Could you possibly take my claim seriously?  I certainly hope not

                  1. Hokey profile image60
                    Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                    You mean Mickey Mouse isn't a God?  I was gonna convert! Darn hmm

            2. Pandoras Box profile image59
              Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Well it's generally accepted that when you make assertions in a forum you should be prepared to back them up. Especially when the assertions are so... eh.. unsupported by all known knowledge. Like, you know, real knowledge, facts and stuff.



              I don't mean to be offensive, but the only way I can interpret what you're saying is that when you decide to believe your first assertion, you then also decide to believe the second.




              I believe in the existence of ancient american civilizations, the evidence for such is more than plentiful. The ancient ones here left no written record however, and there is no record or other evidence showing any connection to jewish people or otherwise supporting any of the claims mormons make regarding ancient american civilizations.



              I respect your right to believe as you choose, but I disagree with you. If a god exists who created us all, then I believe it would have chosen us all, and exposed itself to us all. What is readily available for all of us to know, I believe in. What is hidden behind words such as "chosen few" I have to reject, not out of pride, but out of reasoning. What makes one prophet's revelations any more believable than the conflicting revelations of another prophet?


              Have it, read it, and agree it was fascinating, but not perhaps in the same manner in which you mean.
              No, it doesn't. I'm sorry you can't see that. I don't wish to argue with people either, honestly, that's why I ignore all dumb meaningless commentators. But what you're seeing is merely a religion trying to twist known evidence to make it fit their storylines. Every religion does it. Mormonism is no different. It hasn't "withstood scholarly scrutiny", it has merely flown enough under the radar to escape it most of the time. But at the same time, it has failed to come up with any evidence as it should have. There should be some evidence, some sign, or even just some suggestion of possible proof. But there is nothing. If there was, one of you would be able to lay it on the table, and then we wouldn't be here pointing out the complete lack of it.


              You have great respect for an image that was created through deception. It's unfortunate that so many good people flock to empty images of goodness out of a desire to do good and be right with the universe. I concede that religion can help some people feel comfortable in their own lives, but to society as a whole it is a detriment.

              I appreciate your attempt to answer my question, but the simple truth is, there is no arhaeological evidence whatsoever. You're just retelling the same untruths which have been told to you.

              1. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
                Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Pandoras Box, when you say "You have great respect for an image that was created through deception", you say it as if you are correct. While I respect your opinion, I take exception to your putting forth such an exclusive absolute notion. Thanks anyhow for examining my activity in this forum.
                Let me end this night of mine on the internet by relating to the people who want to know more about the Mormons and their faith an COMMON word of wisdom.
                It is hard to teach one who does not accept that he has any need to be taught.

                1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
                  Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh that just reeks of manipulation...

                2. Pandoras Box profile image59
                  Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  There's proof that it was all a deception. Texts used by Smith have been translated by modern experts and found to be not what Smith claimed them to be. I say it as though it were correct because it is correct according to all known evidence.

                  I never claimed to have no need of being taught. WHy do you attempt to insult me? However, I am careful about what teachings I believe in as truth.

                  You, and everybody else, should be careful what you put your faith in as well.

                  Goodnight.

              2. Hokey profile image60
                Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Pandoras Box. You are clear, concise, respectful, polite, well-informed and utterly and completely right.  Namaste   smile

    3. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Timothy, I agree. goldenpath does well.
      Randy-
      Being a cult is your opinion. If you think a Christian is a cultist, well...
      Many of these posts are quite wordy, which isn't my style.
      A lot of questions about physical proof...to know if the Book of Mormon is true, you can find that it is scripture if you read it with an open heart and an open mind.

  19. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    I hope this works.

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/3467239946_87e3a9965f.jpg

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Phew, it smells like your breath!  I guess I gave you a road apple after all!

  20. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Should've known it wouldn't work. You just seem to feed off it.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Ah, now you're getting smart!

  21. goldenpath profile image68
    goldenpathposted 15 years ago

    Tim,
    It's OK.  Those who seek only physical evidence of things will continue to be blind.  Thomas did the same thing and Jesus Christ corrected him.  We can uncover the numerous altars, dwelling places and even ancient temples all over the Americas and it still would not prove sufficient for those who constantly seek "physical" evidence.  It would only lead them to seek alternate explanations.  Application of the precepts and testing is all that is needed.

    Hope the weather is fine up there!  It's been darn cold here. sad

    1. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
      Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Goldenpath, we are in for another winter storm, this time from the East.
      By the way, I must say that I admire your courageous effort to answer the questions about Mormonism as they come along. In my opinion, you are doing a wonderful job. Your 20 years or so studying the faith is evident to me. Thank you for enlightening me on a few things I was not up on. All I can suggest my friend, is that when you get frustrated on this forum, just to bow out for a time.

    2. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I have a lot of respect for you, goldenpath, though obviously have a "different world view" from yours roll, but you always seem to have humour and decorum on these sites, and somehow avoid the slanging matches.

      I did want to dispute you on a point of logic, however. The story of Thomas is EXACTLY one of someone seeking PHYSICAL evidence, and Jesus GIVING it to him.

      Just sayin'. Either way, best to you.

    3. Pandoras Box profile image59
      Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I'd settle for just one. Got any?

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Don't ask for proof, PB!  That's what they got angry with me about.  What were we thinking?

        1. Pandoras Box profile image59
          Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Intolerant persecutors working for the "Adversary". cool

          I need a scary devil smiley.

    4. skyfire profile image77
      skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      ancient temples exist means evidence of god ? in that way, CERN exist hence "angels & demons" is true story, same goes with "da vinci code". is this how it works ? your imagination says it's true hence it exist ?

      1. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
        Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        skyfire, this is not how faith works, period. You may research that if you wish.

        1. skyfire profile image77
          skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Faith is just for personal security against unknown things, to have some support in odd time. This is how it works. If people claim that there are temples hence my faith is right, then any research we do is irrational for people with faith.

  22. Timothy Donnelly profile image61
    Timothy Donnellyposted 15 years ago

    Randy, I have read the whole forum and have found only you and few others (as compared to Goldenpath) who continually jump to the resort of contentious argument. Goldenpath has demonstrated a high degree of patience and goodwill trying to diplomatically bring his points of knowledge forward.
    I do believe, however that we all must calm down, in order for intelligent people to see this forum as one which is not a burden to read. May I ask the people who do not know or support the LDS faith to back off a little. Any court of law or moderated assembly would never allow the abrasive few but persistent denigrators to throw their sputum into a forum where the people who actually study and practice this faith try to fulfill forum's objective. One must ask themselves: are forums provided as a place to argue and rant, or to expound and enlighten?

    1. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Tim, you're obviously new to the forums.  No this is not the place to expound and enlighten.  This is the place where angry anti-theists gangup and pound believers in the hope of silencing them or hounding them out.  If you stick around you'll see it soon enough.

      Even better, start a thread saying something religious, and you'll see the worms come from underneath making fun of you or attacking your or just being derisive as the snake there.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah, right Flightkeeper.  How dare anyone challenge the illogical, inane statements of some of the "believers" here.  Sorry, us worms detest lies and fallacy, no matter the source.

        1. Flightkeeper profile image68
          Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          You know snake it's okay if you don't believe in any of the religious stuff.  I don't care and go ahead and challenge the stuff. But there's a difference between disagreeing and challenging and just being hateful. And you are hateful which means that there is no point discussing the points of difference because you're too emotional about it.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image61
            Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, and you are a sweetie pie yourself.  You guys dislike being challenged on untrue statements made by members of a cult.  Wouldn't it be easier to just tell the truth about what they actually know instead of asking people to believe in a bunch of made-up history. 

            It's quite simple, if you don't want to be challenged on ludicrous statements, then don't make them.  No one is forcing any cult members to spread their nonsense here, that includes everyone, no matter the group.

            They know what they are in for and enjoy the martyrdom they think it gives them.  Perhaps you are of the mindset of "let them spread nonsenses, what does it hurt" type.  You are definitely priestess material, but not in the Mormon cult.

            1. Flightkeeper profile image68
              Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Boy, you're just going to make yourself the victim aren't you?  I just told you that you can challenge and you come back with we don't let you challenge. roll Religious people are allowed to have a voice here as much as anyone. And you pretty much confirmed for me that you're a hypocrite.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                i did not state that I was not allowed to challenge, just that it made some mad because they could not back up their claims when so challenged.  There is a difference. 

                I am sorry you feel I am being hateful, but you and GP seem to do all of the labeling (slander, hateful, worms,black hearted etc.)

                Fine folks!

                1. Flightkeeper profile image68
                  Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Aww, poor snake, he's still the eternal victim. sad

                  lol

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                    Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                    Thankfully, not yours or GP's.  But the children of Mormons definitely are!

    2. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This is not the only thread where the priest and I have differed in our opinions, Tim.  Please be so kind as to point out where GP attempted to expound on his "points of knowledge."  I have witnessed nothing from him which gives any indication of his ability to expound on anything remotely related to historical knowledge. 

      Some of his posts go on for pages, filled with the nonsense written by a known con man, Joseph Smith.  It is akin to anointing P.T. Barnum as a prophet.  And I'm still waiting for the links to the ancient Jewish archaeological sites you mentioned in your earlier post.  Or are you no better at providing evidence of your claims than the priest?

    3. Pandoras Box profile image59
      Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Is "contentious argument" as defined by you and gp the simple practice of asking for verification of outlandish statements? Are "points of knowledge" as defined by you and gp really just unsupportable assertions? Are facts "a burden to read"? The forums are not exclusive. They are an open place for open discussion. Don't get upset when serious questions are raised. If we all just agreed to agree what would be the point?

      I do not consider the touting of ancient (or merely vintage) lies a proper way to "enlighten" anybody.

    4. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Timothy-
      I like your postings as well as goldenpaths.

  23. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Ancient Jewish archaeological sites? Where? In North America?

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You have obviously not been "enlightened," Hokey!  Welcome to wormville!

      1. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I Love W0rms!!!   big_smile

  24. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    The LDS 6 P's for perfection: prophets...presidency...patriarchs...priesthoods...payees...prozac.   big_smile

    1. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      And n.7
      Punks

  25. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
    AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years ago

    They dress nice. And seem to be only of one gender.

  26. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Gordon Hinckley's definition of open discussion
    "Don't ask, don't tell."

  27. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    People shouldn't call people morons, it's not nice.

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      are you following me?    tongue

      1. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        no. stalking. yikes

        1. Hokey profile image60
          Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Well that's more like it!!   big_smile

          1. profile image0
            lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            roll

    2. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Where do you suppose Smith got the name for his angel from?  It is a joke from the grave, and people are still falling for it!

      1. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Randy I meant no disrespect, I apologize if I offended you.  I should think before being a smart ass.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I knew you were joking, and seriously, I am not angry at anyone here.  Even the cultists do not anger me.  Perhaps I come off as angry and bitter, I assure you this is not the case at all.

          These people are in a very bad spot for any religious group to be in.  They are faced with reality, the most harmful threat known to religious organizations.  Imagine their children studying history in school and realizing their parents have absolutely no grasp of reality or truth concerning scientific truth.

          It is their children I pity.  And their children's children, marching backwards into the superstitious past.

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            lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            OK good, thanks.

          2. Pandoras Box profile image59
            Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Persecuted by reality. No wonder they're so paranoid.

  28. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    lol

  29. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Q: How many Mormons does it take to change a light bulb?
    A: Zero. Mormons don't use light bulbs because; "darkness flee's the light."

  30. tony0724 profile image60
    tony0724posted 15 years ago

    About all I know is that the woman who owns In N Out burger is a mormon and their burgers rock !!

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Now that's a good burger!   big_smile

  31. profile image0
    StormRyderposted 15 years ago

    What I see from the college football teams in Utah the mormons are crazy about the spread offence! smile

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hmmmmmm......... hmm

      1. profile image0
        StormRyderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Not Hmmmmmm...really they are!
        BYU...pass happy...utah and utah state..both spread offences

  32. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions,
    even though they have been held in honor
    for many generations and in diverse places.
    Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it.
    Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past.
    Do not believe what you yourself have imagined,
    persuading yourself that a God inspires you.
    Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests.
    After examination, believe what you yourself have tested
    and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.

    1. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      What a bunch of buddhist crap. It's a lot of words that come down to nothing. lol

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Yes critical thought... sheesh. Get a GRIP

      2. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Deleted

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Or how about, simply, not accurate roll

      3. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        big_smile


        Your so angry! What a shame. Just because you can't make others believe in your fairy tales.

        lol

      4. Pandoras Box profile image59
        Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        What is it exactly that you object to?

    2. Pandoras Box profile image59
      Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Love it! What's it from?

    3. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hokey-
      Believe what you want. You are not forced.

  33. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Hey hokey, how many lightbulbs do buddhists need? None, because they are enlightened. lol

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      YAY!!!!!!!!!!   big_smile

    2. profile image0
      wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol

    3. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This is very true. smile

  34. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Q: How many Mormons does it take to change a light bulb?
    A: Zero. Mormons don't use light bulbs because they can't see the light

    1. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      eh, that doesn't work. I got one for you.

      Why do Buddhists meditate? Because they don't get enough sleep lol

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Oh the insults are getting vicious now. You non-sleeping Buddhist-types, you...

      2. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        That's just dumb. Mormon humor?  smile

  35. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Did you hear about the two missionaries who were building a new school? One noticed the other kept throwing away as many nails as he was using.

    So he asked, "Hey man, why are you throwing away those nails?

    The second replied with obvious frustration, "Aw, that stupid Christian at the Nail Factory sold us nails with the heads on the wrong end of them!"

    "Don't throw them away," said the first, "We'll use them on the other side of the building."

  36. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Are these Buddhist remarks in genuine fun or are they attacking Hokey's faith?  I can't tell.

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Who Cares? Not me! lol

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Clearly a Buddhist

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          SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          You meant budist, right?

          http://www.eteamz.com/BudManiacs/images/budweiser.jpg

          1. Hokey profile image60
            Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Now that's good!!!   lol

            Don't drink though, but thanks for the offer!   lol

          2. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Someone with wit to the rescue roll wink

            1. Hokey profile image60
              Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              She needs rescue!  lol

      2. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Deleted

        1. Hokey profile image60
          Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Don't report. No reason. I can take care of myself.

    2. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Don't you get it they're jokes lyrics.

      1. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        thanks flightkeeper, it's just me, I wasn't sure, must need sleep big_smile

    3. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Lyrics, are you only concerned when hokey's faith is attacked or other hubber's faith as well?

      1. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        You have no faith....   lol

        1. Flightkeeper profile image68
          Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Oh dear, was I getting to you? It's all a joke you know. And I'm not a mormon.

          1. Hokey profile image60
            Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Sure your not!!!    lol

          2. Hokey profile image60
            Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I guess you don't know any Buddhists!!  smile

            1. Flightkeeper profile image68
              Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Well I just told you I'm not a mormon and you insist I am, so you must not know any mormons either.

              1. Hokey profile image60
                Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I'm gonna start my own religion. Flightkeeper worship!  smile

      2. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        why do you ask ?

        1. Flightkeeper profile image68
          Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          you were okay reporting when hokey's faith was attacked did you report when other hubbers' faiths were attacked as well?

          1. profile image0
            lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            you don't know that.

            1. Flightkeeper profile image68
              Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              that's why I'm asking, did you?

              1. profile image0
                lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                did I what report?  you don't know me.  no of course not it was a joke.  We all are joking right?

                1. Flightkeeper profile image68
                  Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, we are lyrics smile

      3. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I'm curious in your interest as to why.

  37. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    A primary president, a high councillor, and a bishop sat on the front row of a airplane flight that was hijacked. When the hijackers' demands were refused, they threatened to shoot some passengers, starting with the first row. The primary president asked for one last wish; to sing her favorite primary song. The hijacker said that would be fine, then asked the high councillor and bishop if they also had a last wish. The high councillor requested that after the song he be allowed to stand and give the talk he had prepared to give in sacrament meeting that next Sunday. The hijacker agreed, then turned to the bishop. The bishop motioned for the hijacker to come closer and whispered in his ear, "Please shoot me after the song."

    1. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I use that one...it's a good one

  38. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    First guy: Did you see the Buddhist and an ass go by?
    Second guy: No, I just saw two asses go by, but one ass was leading the other ass
    First guy: That was them, the ass was keeping the Buddhist from achieving enlightenment and shirking from work.

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The Ass must have been a mormon.   lol

      1. Flightkeeper profile image68
        Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        See, you're learning that buddhists can learn from a mormon.

        1. Hokey profile image60
          Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          First, rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings,
          not on the words;

          Second, rely on the teachings,
          not on the personality of the teacher;

          Third, rely on real wisdom,
          not superficial interpretation;

          And fourth, rely on the essence of your pure Wisdom Mind,
          not on judgmental perceptions.

          1. Flightkeeper profile image68
            Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            A second load of buddhist crap.

            1. Hokey profile image60
              Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              lol lol lol

              1. Flightkeeper profile image68
                Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Thank goodness you laughed, I thought I was the only one who thought they were dumb.

          2. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
            Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            very profound...

            1. profile image0
              lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Hey Mikel you doing ok? big_smile

              1. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
                Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Hi Hottie!!  Yes I'm doing fine, having a bit of a wind storm here, the boat keeps ramming into the pier... sad

          3. Mark O Richardson profile image82
            Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Hokey-
            Relying on things...I like that, especially the spirit part.

    2. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Reported for lack of humour

      1. Pandoras Box profile image59
        Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        lol

  39. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Yes that's why the buddhists say namaste all the time but they're still in the dark.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That one too

    2. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Very weak!! Is that all you got?  lol

  40. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Now i get it lol lol lol

    thanks sirdent

  41. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Q: How many Mormons does it take to change a light bulb?

    A: If it's Relief Society, it takes four.
    One to fix refreshments,
    One to bring the tablecloth,
    One to design the centerpiece,
    And one to screw in the light bulb.

    If it's the Bishopric, forget it,
    They don’t do light bulbs.
    They call a Priesthood Executive Council
    And delegate it to the Elders.

    If it's the Elders, it takes four.
    Three that don’t show up, and
    One to change the bulb.

    If it's the High Priests, it takes four.
    Two to push the wheel chairs,
    One to handle the oxygen tank,
    And one to screw in the light bulb.

    If it's the Home Teachers, it only takes two,
    But you have to wait until the end of the month.

  42. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Two buddhists walk by.

  43. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Q: How many Mormons does it take to change a light bulb?
    A: Four. One to say an opening prayer, one to give a talk on changing light bulbs, one to change the light bulb, and one to say a closing prayer.

    1. Flightkeeper profile image68
      Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      What did the dumb buddhist say to the light bulb? Namaste.

    2. Mark O Richardson profile image82
      Mark O Richardsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hokey has some good dad "Mormon" jokes

  44. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Ok. On a serious note. How long has mormonism been practiced?

  45. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    lol

  46. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 15 years ago

    Hokey, you're a puzzle.  You come on these forums trying to come on as this enlightened type but from what I can see you're just as intolerant as a non-buddhist. You're a huge disappointment.

    1. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I'm just kidding around. I don't do anything but post harmless jokes and you will notice that when people make fun of me I take it all in stride.   smile

      1. Pandoras Box profile image59
        Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        A sign of enlightenment. You're tops Hokey.

        1. Hokey profile image60
          Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks!! You are kind!!!   smile

    2. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I guess you could enlighten us all about being tolerant?  Are you an example of tolerant behavior?

      1. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        big_smile

    3. Hokey profile image60
      Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      ...and I don't come on here trying to be anything but myself. I leave it up to others to make their own perceptions.

      Like my grandfather always said. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.


      Namaste   smile

  47. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    When people post things I don't say what a bunch of mormon crap!

    Or Christian crap!

    Or flightkeeper crap!!

    Nope.  I leave that to angry people.  yikes

  48. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    will you post a bunch of Kimmy's hmm:

  49. Hokey profile image60
    Hokeyposted 15 years ago

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions,
    even though they have been held in honor
    for many generations and in diverse places.
    Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it.
    Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past.
    Do not believe what you yourself have imagined,
    persuading yourself that a God inspires you.
    Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests.
    After examination, believe what you yourself have tested
    and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.


    Buddha

    1. Pandoras Box profile image59
      Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Buddha. Whoda thunkit. Wise guy, that buddha.

      1. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        He was very wise. He said don't even believe what I tell you. Examine it and realize for yourself what is true.

        1. Pandoras Box profile image59
          Pandoras Boxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          That's respectable. I haven't looked at buddhism in a long time, and when i did it was more like just a cursory glance. I was worn out then from my foray into christianity. I should give it another look, see what's there for me.

          Generally speaking, I like to take what I can and leave the rest, you know?

          1. Hokey profile image60
            Hokeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Very wise  big_smile

  50. profile image0
    Onusonusposted 15 years ago

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/10_Commandment_Rock.jpg/350px-10_Commandment_Rock.jpgHere's the los lunas decolague, it's a stone they found in Los Lunas, New Mexico. the writing is Pre-Columbian and has the word "YHWH" written on it four times in a form of Paleo-Hebrew language.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Cool, got any pictures of a bigfoot wearing a Yarmulke? Got a link, AA?

 
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