Do you think history is 100% correct?

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

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   I don't need to write history. Do you think history is 100% correct?
   
   No, it is not; humans write the history and hence it is as faulty as the humans are.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ssurrre, yahhha, Columbus was the first to discover a America.
      Not the Native, Viking nor Chinese.

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   china manposted 12 years ago

   WTF  is this all about !! ??
   
   Why is it funny or even being discussed.
   
   History is 10% true, 20% pure lies and distortions and 70% just plain forgotten.

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      pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      why it is funny is actually between me and my good friend paar..when he talks about things written by humans , i include every book and one of his most cherished book is included in my list too ....

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you.
      
      Only Word of Revelation, if understood correctly is 100% correct; I mean Quran.
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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         nightwork4posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         your opinion of the quaran is kind of frightening. if it is so correct then why is it the handbook for most terrorists and who are you to say your understanding is the right one.

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            RevolveRposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The Bible used to be the guide book for the Inquisition. So what ?

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               nightwork4posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               just like the quaran , the bible is also abused and interpreted to suit ones own needs. as you state, it's used to be . at least the christians have learned the wrongs of their interpretations but it seems the muslims are still behind by a few hundred years.

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         Freeway Flyerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Do you hold the Quran to the same standard that you hold the history books?

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      Kidgasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting.  They say that 40% of statistics are made up out of thin air.

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I think the statistics have some constants and veriables when collected; and these are subject to change and hence make them erring like humans being have to be. Everthing concerning humans have to be erring; to err is human as they say. Only the Word of the Creator- God Allah YHWH is 100% correct if understood correctly; here I mean Quran.

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         Mikeydoesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Haha, I really like that one.

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      Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I like the way you've broken it down into percentages and 70% forgotten is good to point out!

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         china manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         As Kidgas says, 40% of statistics are made up out of thin air, just like all of history.  In my life I have been present at two events that made world-news headlines - neither was reported with any honesty or accuracy. The 'official' news releases for both incidents were a total fabrication, things that were there conveniently went missing from the reports and were cut from the photographs.

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      Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      agreed.  besides, we all know history is written by the winners.  that's how it always been.  if america had lost the revolutionary war, and we were still under british rule, then they'd call it a rebellion instead of a revolution in american history books.  enough said...

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   RevolveRposted 12 years ago

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrK0d-r0Vfo

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend  RevolveR
      
      What do you want to say exactly? Please mention it with an open-mind.
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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         pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         ..but paar mention your terms of open mindness to revolver ...god is there , quran is perfect...other than that you are open for everything ...

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            earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            

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         RevolveRposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That people should respect you.

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            paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Hi friend  RevolveR
            
            The would respect me if they agree with me and also if they are open-minded.
            
            I appreciate your concern.
            
            Thanks
            
            I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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               nightwork4posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               what? they would respect me if they agree with me. lmao. how is that open minded?

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                  paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  They disagree with me then resort to ridicule and using foul language.
                  
                  So I understand their problem and I don't reply them in the same coin.
                  
                  Is it narrowness?
                  
                  Then what is openness?

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                     Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     They disagree with you because you are closed minded.
                     
                     
                     
                     Absolutely.
                     
                     
                     
                     That would be where you didn't claim Islam and the Quran were 100% correct. 

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   nightwork4 wrote:
   your opinion of the quaran is kind of frightening. if it is so correct then why is it the handbook for most terrorists and who are you to say your understanding is the right one.
   
   Paarsurrey says:
   
   What is so frightening about my opinion.
   
   The Terrorists don't understand Quran; hence they do what suits them. Quran/Islam/Muhammad have no such teaching. You prove that I am wrong, please.

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      pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      then teach them instead of preaching peaceful hubbers ...

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         they can learn if they like; if they don't; then they are as free as you are

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            pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            ya but wont world be better place if good people like you who are totally convinced about their faiths invest time on those using faith in destructive way..just a thought...

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   ahorsebackposted 12 years ago

   It is said ,by some, that history is written by the victors, gotta believe that.

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   Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago

   Who controls the past now controls the future
   Who controls the present now controls the past
   Who controls the past now controls the future
   Who controls the present now?
   
   RATM

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   Chaotic Chicaposted 12 years ago

   The fact that history is in the past is 100% accurate.  That is the end of absolution.  I have read several history books, several that contradict the others.  More than one government has law prohibiting certain information from becoming available to the public for a specified number of years. Once that information is available, history as the citizens knew it then changed.  People are in charge of recording history and the temptation to alter it is great, not everybody is above that temptation.

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      Dave Barnettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Balderdash and poppycock! History is written by he who wins the conflict, and is written to be as favorable to the victor and unfavorable to the defeated peoples as the victor can get people to swallow.

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         Chaotic Chicaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Like I said, not everybody is above the temptation to alter the recording of history to their advantage.

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            Dave Barnettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It's all BS on a global scale

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               Chaotic Chicaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Exactly!

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         earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Absolutely right! History is written by the victor.

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   Rafiniposted 12 years ago

   History is always 100% correct, interpretations written into history books are skewed by the writers perceptions.

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      Precious Williamsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Rafini.  I agree.  How are you?  I've not been well so I haven't been in here.  Been missing you.  I have a long day tomorrow so I mustn't hang around.  See you soon hopefully (if you know what I mean)

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         Rafiniposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Precious - Doing pretty well, classes started this past week and my eyes are killing me from all the reading!  lol  I'm hoping they can be retrained to accept the reading with (oh my!!) reading glasses.
         
         Hope you feel better soon!  I still pop in a little too often...but it's only been a week of classes.   Not too much homework yet.

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      Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      As you say ..  by the writers perceptions !!
      Unfortunately the person being killed doesn't get to write their perception.
         The waiter at the restaurant, the chef, the cashier all tell a different point of view.
      
         The American Indian tells a diffrent story than the cowboy.
         The wife and the Husband ??
         History is good for pointing out dates on the calendar. 
      
        Point of view ??  We all have our own.

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         Rafiniposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly!  One of the reasons I sincerely dislike history and prefer to write my own stories...so I can answer the why's and the how's.    Seriously, though.

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   Kathryn LJposted 12 years ago

   I believe that the 'winners' write the history.  Earnesthub is absolutely right.  Otherwise, how could you explain the UK's royal family?  Hands up who knows that the Queen's extended family were German ( a little embarrassing during the 2nd World War) and more commonly known - prince Phillip is Greek.  and they have a family tree that goes back to God!  Imagine that ' oh yes my ancestors did very well for themselves, William of Orange, Richard the Lion Heart and of course, I am a direct descendent of God.'  Priceless.

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I can put my hand up.
      ................. .......I agree, the royal family has some odd descendency!

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    ahorsebackposted 12 years ago

    The only accuracy of history is to read and watch everything and then judge for yourself......in the end of it all , maybe half is accurate. Allthough they could never begin to teach it all in 12 years either, so who's to blame? We do like to have a bad guy though don't we .

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    Shil1978posted 12 years ago

    Whose history? People/countries write histories, and so there is no question of "history being 100% correct." One country's view of history may be totally the opposite of the other country's, especially if they were and are enemies.

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    Kahanaposted 12 years ago

    History has been, is, and will be always written by the victors.  In that sense, the perspective will always be prejudiced against those that we consider history's losers.  That is the way of the world.

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    hamstersmessiahposted 12 years ago

    what i get from history is the word "story,"  "his story" to be more specific.  the patriarchal universe of discourse has controlled the storyline on this planet for most of humankind.

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       paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for expalining the word 'history' .

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    harleymeighanposted 12 years ago

    I think it is not 100% accurate. I agree with Kahana, there will always be prejudice, and those without voice, or no influence, will have no history.

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       you mean sort of like how the native americans seem to have hardly any history to speak of these days.  it's kind of funny, as the native americans had a lot of influence on our american culture, than most people even realize, as british settlers shamelessly took credit for it.  like thanksgiving. that was a native american annual holiday, but you'll notice in history books they never give them proper credit for it.  no, they say that the american settlers invented it to make peace with the indians, and invited them.  even though thanksgiving was an annual holiday for the indians that they invited the settlers to. it's funny on how the people who write the history books tend to often leave a lot of stuff out in favor of the winning side..if you catch my drift.

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    telltaleposted 12 years ago

    The accuracy of history is how accurate the people in power want it to be.  I know for a fact, that when I was reading history, some events seem to have disappeared in current history books, and they are also not to be found in the archives.

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    Joy56posted 12 years ago

    the accounts are written usually by the people who win the wars, so they elavate themselves quite a lot, at least that is what we were told .
    
    A writer that is an individual living through some awful time in history, would probably give a more trughful account, but unfortunately it may never get read by anyone else.

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    skyfireposted 12 years ago

    History is written by winners (people in power) so that way things in it are always manipulated, exaggerated.

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    prettydarkhorseposted 12 years ago

    History is at times reinvented, rewritten to serve some interests! because it is not science it is not at a certain point precise it is affected by the values of the people who are writing it

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    wademcmasterposted 12 years ago

    There'd have to be mistakes made along the line, we are only human

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    constantia11posted 12 years ago

    History is correct. History was not really understood well by people. And things are to much exaggerated through the years. Yet, if we believe all, trust all, it will be in our benefit later. There is no reason for distrust since we are able to understand things each day more that at first seems to make no sense to us. Eventually people will learn and understand that everything was correct yet it waited for people to understand what it all was all about and nothing else ever was going on on this planet called Earth.

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    Jeramiposted 12 years ago

    History is itself fact.  Out different perceptions are also true when examined from our own vantage point.
    
       The problem arises when we attempt to place more importance upon our perception than others.
    
       Take the American Indians and Europeans for example.
    
       Truth doesn't change. It is what it is.  doesn't have a perception. 
       The eagle and the rabbit.  One truth ! Two perceptions.

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    logic,commonsenseposted 12 years ago

    History is in the past.  Learn from it but don't worry about it.  The only thing we can affect is the future.  Worry about that!

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       paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I agree with you. Word of Creator-God Allah YHWH, Quran cares for the future of the human beings; and the past characters it presents only for the lessons that are useful for the human beings in future; in that sense these are prophecies for the future.
       
       History is not 100% accurate as one could see in this thread.

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          skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          paar the only history that is reasonable and true, is Hisrory accoding to the word of Paar. As you always prove with your 'fact;s' ( read zelot's bull dust) about Jesus that you always  post and then have the nerve to say it is right and reasonable.!

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    brimancandyposted 12 years ago

    No. Not for a second.

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    Freeway Flyerposted 12 years ago

    History is a discipline, like any form of academic or scientific inquiry. So if it is done correctly, then humanity over time should gradually get closer to meaningful truth. But humans are flawed, of course, and we have limited information to go on, so you are never going to get a complete, accurate picture of the past. This doesn't mean that history if worthless, however.

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Your right, when I read deep into history. I found Columbus was the first for Christainity, slavery for whites and pirates in North America

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    Just_Rodneyposted 12 years ago

    The unfortunate fact is that history is written by the conquerors, or the biggest power at the the time of writing history.
    As in daily life there are winners and losers, the only facts are those that make the statistics and are recorded. These are facts, facts are then taken by researchers, and embroided upon adding embellishments and really gussying up the fact to make it more interesting.
    That in turn then becomes history.
    So true history, should be plain bare facts:- dates, who and when, of course the actual outcome.
    That is plain boring!
    
    I think their was a famous quotation, at the time of writing this I cannot remember who said it.
    "History is but a repetition of the past." It was so stated to emphasize the need to learn from the past so as avoid repeating those same mistakes.

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I can hardly wait for the entertainment age to turns into the spiritual age.

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          Just_Rodneyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          It has, during the late sixties and early seventies! Remember The Beatles, Woodstock etc etc
          The following that they had changed the world in a lot of ways.
          
          For 1, they stopped doggedly following in their Fathers footsteps, we/they questioned and challenged the establishment.
          We/They changed the World

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