How do you explain unanswered prayer?
no one has mentioned these starving children (in a third world country im assuming) are the children of parents who: voodoo, witchcraft, serve demonologies and are worshipers of Gods that are gods OF the creation not the creator God of the bible.
So if the God of the bible does feed them, who will get the credit? These worshipers of false gods will think their Gods are real and news will spread and the God of the bible will have an even harder time trying to convince people.
Gods word says if the parents are holy then the children are considered holy if not the opposite it true.
haha so much activity in the religion forums as usual. never a dull moment.
The children are parents of Christians. And yes, that already has been said. False gods, indeed.
But, you bring up an interesting point, perhaps your god doesn't feed the starving for worrying about not getting credit.LOLOL
Dear me - what a pathetic god. No wonder you are so angry.
You can understand that Ra would provide food to the starving while your god would not, but instead would happily send your kids to Disneyland.
Blinders are too tight?
Some kids are sent to Disneyland... tens of thousands die of starvation daily.
No injustice there? LOL!
Seems that, one of only things your god wants to do is send kids to Disneyland.
It's so easy to contradict yourself when the contradiction is so blatant.
If your god can take the time to bless my heart, do you think I could trade in that blessing for a morsel of food to stop at least one of his children from starving? Or, is that too much to ask?
A kindergarten playground attempt at shifting the blame. It would be cruel if it wasn't so puerile.
doo dah, doo dah everything comes from the gettin place
oh doo dah day
If you get the opportunity to tell a starving child that prayers work in life, even when their prayers for a morsel of food never get answered, perhaps you'll find out then whether or not they accept your views.
funny
hahaha hohohoho
maybe there is a place where you can say that on a stage
- klarawieckposted 14 years ago
0lol
I believe you attract good and bad energies with your mind. The mind is a powerful weapon. So, instead of praying, I meditate on things I'd like to have in my life... not physical things, that you can buy with money, but you can attract other things such as opportunities to earn good money, resolve issues you might have with loved ones, health, etc. People that are always complaining tend to end badly... they get sick a lot, problems tend to follow them. That's how I think anyways. Confused still?
oooh that make me so very happy
i think i am evolving
no cook make my legs happyWho doesn't like a smiling frog?!
I don't like frog legs, only alligator nuggets.
didn't know they had those
because it is the power to jesus christ through the work of the cross that there is no other name under heaven whereby people may be saved from eternal damnation, separation from God forever. Inspite of all personal opinion of the unsaved the stakes are much higher than any human carnal mind can conceive! God created and God will have the final say. No one, no one unsaved, will withstand the mighty day of God who will separate the goats from the sheep and take onto himself all those that please him.
Repent therefore and be saved! and make straight all your ways through the spirit of God which upon His forgiveness of all your sins, will empower you to follow in all His ways because of the Love of God that is placed abundantly in the saved persons heart.
vrooom, vroooooom!
Your god never says yes to the starving, that's why they die of starvation. No food. Their prayers go unanswered. The starving do not understand why god does not answer their prayers.
Perhaps, you could explain to them how god answers every prayer so they may understand why they have to die in the name of your god.He is far too busy answering the prayers of parents who want to send their kids to Disneyland. It is the prayers of the starving that he is ignoring.
That is entirely a false argument. It already has been shown there are plenty of countries throughout the world whose children starve to death and their leaders are not doing anything of the sort.
Your god is to blame. He ignores the prayers of children for a morsel of food but grants the prayers of parents who want to send their kids to Disneyland.
It squarely rests on your gods shoulders to stop sending kids to Disneyland and start feeding the starving, instead.The argument is straight. The claim about sending a kid to Disneyland as a result of god answering a prayer was made by a member here and is used as a shining example of any one of the examples Christians have offered as answered prayers.
This has absolutely nothing to do with what you or I do for those who have nothing and everything to do with answered prayers from your god. Try to stay focused on the topic.
Sorry, I don't have any chicken wings handy, but I could offer you a hot pork sausage.
Oh! You dirty old man!
I'm glad you believe so, we can add that to the long list of irrational beliefs you hold.
Yes, they come round and tweak that little thing believers have called a conscience. Their religions suppress it quite adequately, though.
Considering no answers have been provided that don't contradict one another, the issue is still wide open.
Are you or any other believer ever going to admit prayers don't get answered or will the same tired old contradictions be presented?
Hi!Yes, I've seen you sweep many things under the magic carpet of self-delusion. Understandably, you don't want to deal with it as it has the tendency to fall the house of cards that are your cherished beliefs.
I understand Christianity. Fantasies in favor of realities. Contradictions in favor of logic, reason and understanding. Shifting the burdens of responsibility.
Yes, I can understand how you as a Christian would consider the compassion for those who have nothing as being rude and slanderous. Your abundance speaks volumes, as do your beliefs.
Gibberish.
The solution is for your god to feed the starving, especially if he is going to send your kids to Disneyland.I'm sure you do consider my compassion for the starving as insanity, considering it does not support your hatred for them and the fact they exist to defy your claims of answered prayers. Normally, it would eat away at ones conscience, if they had one.
- King Larryposted 14 years ago0
well to be honest, the only god i worship is joe pesci. why? because i think he's a damn good actor, and he seems like a guy that can get things done. thus, i pray to joe pesci. of course, he doesn't always give me what i want but hey, it's the same thing with god. 50/50. half the time you get what you want, and the other times you don't.
of course, if my faith in joe pesci doesn't work, then i fall back on my fall back religion...which is the religion of (cocks gun)...smith & wesson! - ShaunLindberghposted 14 years ago0
Yes, but the problem is that your god "feels that it is a need" to send someones kids to Disneyland, but does NOT "feel that it is a need" to feed the starving.
So, how long do the starving have to wait? How many trips to Disneyland will your god grant before he does something about it?
That isn't an answer to a prayer, that is simply us doing something about it. That is the point being made all along that your god does not answer prayers, that it is humans who help.
Of course, if your god answered their prayers, they wouldn't be starving, would they? Yet, tens of thousands perish every day. There are plenty of secular organizations that help out too, but they don't exist as a result of answered prayers. They do it because they are humane and are not seeking some afterlife rewards for their kindness.
Of course not, as you can't distinguish whether or not they are answered prayers or the result of someone just doing something. You can pretend they are answered prayers if you wish, but it is all just pretend.
And yet, they have bad games, some don't do their best and many get injured. See how it's just pure nonsense to claim prayers get answered.
What prayers? Be specific and don't generalize.
Christians have persecuted, killed and tortured for hundreds of years, too. What is your point?
Yes, it is fun to pretend, but aren't you an adult?
LOL! Yes, feel free to pretend in magical kingdoms and fairy tales that contradict reality. It's all very entertaining but quite puerile.I think you have described an atheist
That's your perspective.. WE christians understand it perfectly. The question has been answered completely and accurately.
We can agree on one thing... you understand very little about being a christian and the bible.
good luck with that
heres a scenario for ya... if there were no atheists holding back Gods people from doing Christian things like feeding the hungry, then there would be no hungry. If there were no atheists and all people thought about God then there would be no hungry, because God would be everywhere, doing his business uninterrupted by atheists.
So really instead of blaming God who is trying to help you really have to blame yourselves.
let me introduce you to irony
have fun with that too.
Funny how you're not able to distinguish one fantasy from another, yet you believe one is a fantasy.
When we blame your god, we are actually blaming you for the contradictions you pose about your god.
The fact that some use their brains for more than just the separation of their ears means that contradictions are acknowledged and understood as contradictions.
You're taking the discussion off on another tangent. This has nothing to do about methods of dying and everything to do with the unanswered prayers of the starving and the answered prayers to got to Disneyland. It is a shining beacon of an example of the contradiction of prayer.
As you keep ignoring the point, your god is too busy granting prayers for trips to Disneyland. Why does he accomplish that and not feed the starving?
That is irrelevant, you are trying to derail the discussion.I'm looking for answers. Believers are not. They just want to believe that their god can do no wrong, despite reality.
Yes, I understand believers just want to wish away the problems of the world so they can uphold their irrational beliefs. Reality says otherwise.
This was just on shining example of the claims made here on these forums in regards to prayer.
God has no compassion whatsoever. He grants prayers for trips to Disneyland but does not grant the prayers of the starving.
But, they are not answered. Only trips to Disneyland are answered.
You are free to argue that point with the Christians who made the claim that their god granted that particular prayer. I did not make that claim.
Again, I didn't make the claims that god is granting trips to Disneyland. So, when your god is answering the prayers for these trips, it runs contradictory to the prayers of the starving.
According to believers who thank their gods for their abundance, it would appear that your god does indeed hand out the rice, but only to the good Christians here and not elsewhere.
I understand it isn't relevant to believers. That's part of the problem.No, you don't understand, you simply want to believe that there are no contradictions in your belief system. If you acknowledged that there were, your belief system would disintegrate as the facts of reality spew forth onto your intellect like a tidal wave.
And, the starving to be fed. Yes, we know. Thanks for showing your compassion.
yah that is lumped in under the category MISSIONARIES. No point praying outside of gods will. When we understand how He works, we can then pray effectively. Of course some people think until disneyland is abolished from the face of the planet, god should do nothing.
Nice of you to have started off your response with a personal insult. Does that make you feel superior?
Funny how you made that connection when no such connection has been presented. The actual connection made was the fact that believers pray for things, such as their abundance, their food, trips to Disneyland and such, and when they receive these things, they thank their gods for granting them.
This is the connection to the starving who also pray to the very same god for a morsel of food, but get nothing in return but an agonizing death.
Do you understand now?
You cannot see god either, yet you still believe he exists.
Yes, that it is indeed a fairy tale.
Obviously, you did not see that and are fabricating stories.
I have not attempted what you have so easily accomplished yourself.
That has been made quite apparent, by your own words.
I have little doubt that your "faith" is real it is the other claims you make about your god that far from real.
There you have it, the contradiction between you and the starving. Does it make you feel good your prayers are answered and theirs are not, and they die as a result.
That makes no sense. God answers your prayers and you have to feed other people. Why doesn't he just answer their prayers? Why don't those people have to feed you instead? Notice the simplicity of logic in your contradiction?
That is entirely false, we can see our atmosphere and easily prove it exists. Why would you need to fabricate a lie about that?
Yes, there is, but you have not provided it due to the fact that you are unable to explain away your contradiction.
Then, there isn't a single thing in your life that proves anything about prayer, either. Admit that honestly, and you'll have your answer.
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