Jesus liberated women and there are many instances
where he edified ,defended and stood alongside them ,when it was definately not poplular to do so.
Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
Sorry if this has already been expressed ,but Ive scrolled back 5 pages and too tired to read all from a-z so here goes.
My version of a Christian marriage ,as I understand it from Gods word.
(No, I dont say that the good marriage is only a Christian one)
Man: As Jesus was Head of the Church' so was man supposed to emulate that example. God was not a task master. He respected and revered women.
Therefore for women to obey their husbands in this setting was not demoralising ,it was very liberating,protective and supportive.
There are countless examples far better than I have given and if you could witness a Christian marriage in action you would see exactly what I mean.
1 Cor. 11:3 – “But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.
Has anyone informed the women of this?
I live with a lot of females, and I can assure one and all that it ain't gonna happen!
Bible decreed that ''women should obey their husbands'' ?
It is a wrong notion of the scribes; both men and women should respect one another and obey one another on merit of right; this is the Truthful teachings of the Religion. The scribe of the Bible are sinful persons; they could mis-state the things in a wrong manner.
So, I suppose the quran would be the source one should go to on marital advice? Islam advocates equality of the sexes?
Sure of course; respect to both the sexes keeping in view their natural faculties.
And what, according to the quran, are the natural faculties of each of the sexes? I'm curious.
Men are superior at peeing standing up. Sorry that's the only one I can think of!
[2:229] And the divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three courses; and it is not lawful for them that they conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the Last Day; and their husbands have the greater right to take them back during that period, provided they desire reconciliation. And they (the women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in equity; but men have a rank above them. And Allah is Mighty, Wise.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=228
Men and women have rights as they both have obligations to perform.
Men have rank above women? That's enough information for me. Another archaic way to subjugate women. I'm not sure I see any difference than the fundamentalist take on christianity. Where, exactly were you going with this?
Yes, the obligations of the women are to be subservient to the men.
Can you imagine what Muslim men would have done to a group of women who decided to start a Suffragette movement, walking down the streets carrying signs of protest, or a movement where they get together and collectively burn their hijabs in the streets?
Muslim men would most likely have turned once again to the infallible Quran that would teach and condone them to beat their women within an inch of their lives.
Allah is a Mighty Misogynist.
my, I didn't read through the pages here. Just respect your husband and he will respect you as well. This is tied with decision making.
When he says, love, I think you should not buy those stuff because they are not durable, then weigh what he is saying, then if you see that he has a point then obey him. Usually it is about whose domain the area is, for example in major household decision to buy something, you should agree, but in child care or in the kitchen, mostly these are women's domain so the women's decision should be followed. If there is conflict of decision, then the one who is more knowledgeable in that area should be followed. Weigh pros and cons and that's it.
"but men have a rank above them. And Allah is Mighty, Wise."
It looks more like Allah was not mighty or wise, he sounds like a sexist to me!
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