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   Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

   Would you be willing to give up U.S. souverenity to a United Nations control?  Do you think the world would be better off under a one world government using a global currency?  A world without borders and a sharing of economic and natural resources?

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      How has a 1 global religion worked out so far? A 1 global government would turn out the same way.

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         Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         How about if the one world religion is formed at the same time in the entity controlling environmentalism.  Do you not think that a worship the world religion is being forced on us Right now.

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         tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Um, there isn't one.

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            marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I know, but I think this was the goal when religion first developed. Much easier to control a group if they all have the same morals and belief compared to them all having their different individual morals and beliefs.

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               Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Kind of like the Dark Ages

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This is not the time.

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         lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         True, thank you

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            zzronposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with you Kim very BAD IDEA, you go girlfriend ! ! !

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      Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's not a simple matter of sovereignty. Some things globalise naturally, to the general good (e.g. English as a universal second (or first) langauge, communication technology and the Internet). Some things need to be pushed along, but are worth pushing, like International Law, Human Rights, etc. There will always be the need for intra-community and inter-community organisation, which traditionally equate to local and central government. But the inter-community organisation might eventually be remodelled more along network lines, instead of pyramid style centralisation. The last thing we need is a 'world president'.

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         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Very true.

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      Don Wposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Did you go "MUAHAHAHAHAHA" when you finished typing this? Do you in like cats and do you in fact look anything ike this? (just asking)
      
      

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         Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No definitely not! We could do with a little less government though!

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      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't noticed any proposals to do what you are posing in this question???

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         sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Need to study a little about whats going on at Copenhagen.

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            Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I've been following the talks at Copenhagen. They appear to be going nowhere fast. Besides, an agreement among nations to do something to control carbon emissions is hardly giving up their sovereignty. There have been plenty of such agreements in the past involving a variety of topics from nuclear disarmament to protection of endangered species and various agreements wrt international plane flights, laws of the sea, etc. Nothing alarming. The advance of technology has required all kinds of international treaties and cooperation. And there will be more in the future.

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         Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Contemplation is what I do in my spare time and it is great to read all the feedback.  I like questions that make me think. As for proposals how about Agenda 21 I only know what I have read on the subject which is not vast but a few articles.  I am disturbed by it though and it does make me contemplate questions such as this. I do enjoy taking advantage of my First ammendment rights while I still can.

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      awareposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      it is imperative for our survival that we act as a planet

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         sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         does that mean there are too many people? thats what "planet" thinkers want to control, population.

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      starme77posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      no , no ,no and no again  and hell  no some more

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      chambersgirl21posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Of course we would not be better off, but it is going to happen and there is nothing that we can do to stop it. So Im right there with SNEAK, lets get it over with.

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       Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       A world without borders?  That'll be the day.

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          AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          ...Let's hope

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             Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I dream in the sleep time

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       ndudimmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I think with a one world government, there will be more problem in the world because the qeustion about who gives orders will come up.

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       cjhunsingerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       It matters not what I would do or want, the soverignty of this nation was signed over to a foreign power when the Congress and the President of the US ratified and signed the UN Charter.  The acclerated rate at which we are moving towards a Marxist, socialist society is probably best witnessed by the answer that you have received given this question.
       The lemmings that Americans have become are in lock step and there is no stopping them.

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       qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Arthur:
       I think you know that I have written a "hub" on this subject.
       If man is to survive as a species, a 1 world gov't will be its only hope.
       As fragmented as contemporay mankind is, the odds are that a 1 world gov't has no chance of being realized before it has suffered a population reducing catastrophe.
       Human population would, necessarily, HAVE TO BE, massively, reduced in number to be governable.
       That gov't would have to dedicated to the destruction of all facets of religion and Machiavellian in control, assuring itself that "it" (religion) could not rise again.
       The governing body would have to be devoted to the concept of the survival or the human species.
       At this moment in time, all that I have written above, has to be considered to be pure idealism to the max.

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          Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          

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          Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          This is a very scary scenario that you describe.
          
          It sounds more like it would be a world of total global dictatorship with no personal freedom.
          
          I would not even want to be a part of such a world.

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             qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Yes, It would have to be such.
             Once a 1 world gov't was in control and all facets of resistance was destroyed, a universal movement to educate the remaining populace could begin.
             Genetic engineering would be utilized to create new human species that would be the future leaders of human life.
             The gov't would allow freedom to all who were dedicated to progress and human survival.
             It would take a few generations to realize the fruition of a society that functioned in concert to guarantee the viability of all extant life.
             Living on this planet could be paradise under the democratic rule of an elected gov't devoted to the success of the human species.

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                Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah, that would work. As long as human nature weren't a part of it.

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                   qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Madame:
                   I mentioned genetic engineering and education in ref to controlling "human nature."  :-)

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I certainly wouldn't. But I'm not aware of any such proposals. Are you?

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          Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          U.N. Agenda 21 is a little disturbing.
          
          http://www.green-agenda.com/agenda21.html

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             Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Funny, there was nothing like the material linked in The Wall Street Journal, The NY Times or any other publication so far as I recall. Arthur, you should quit reading these off-the-wall reports on the Net! You'd sleep better at night not worrying so much about these far out scenarios.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I certainly wouldn't. But I'm not aware of any such proposals. Are you? Do you support international cooperation to deal with terrorism? Piracy? Trade? Communicable diseases? Airline flight and safety matters? Drug cartels?

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       Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       So long as that World Government provided the protections of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness...
       
       We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all PEOPLE are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among HUMANITY, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...
       ... To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   We may as well get it over with! Let's get the end started!

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      Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I sure understand your comment !!!!  What have we done !

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If everyone on the globe believed the bible, what kind of government would we have?

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         chambersgirl21posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         We'd have Gods government, Keeping the 10 commandments. Cant wait till heaven! whoo hoo!!!!!!

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            marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You would like all individuals to have your same belief?

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               chambersgirl21posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               If we all could agree on the facts of the Bible that would be awesome. Some day we will too.

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Hear!Hear!

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                     Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     

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                  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Riiiight. Is that faith or logic?

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   Nice Dog!

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      lol Does that mean you agreed or disagreed?

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Respectfully, If you could snap your fingers right now and have everyone turn into a Christian Conservative and share your belief, how fast would you snap them?

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   TMinutposted 14 years ago

   No, other governments are more corrupt than ours. Local control in some form is necessary to understand local issues.

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      Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am a full supporter of State's Rights and ultimately the local government should affect my life more then the federal government.

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   GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years ago

   No way, this will surely spur chaos...

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   thirdmilleniumposted 14 years ago

   It will be the most ineffective government and corruption will rule the roost

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   One World Order is prophecy. So, I know it will happen.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      How fast would you snap your fingers?

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      Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Of course it's not prophecy. When that old guy was scribbling his lunacy he thought the 'world' comprised a few tribes and lands occupying a couple of hundred square miles.
      
      Nowadays, most cats think there are twenty cats, maybe twenty-five. They are wrong. They know nothing of the world, because they are cats. Prophecy is like midnight caterwauling, and just as useful.

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         

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            Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Not so sure about that one, PG - mine has been investigating existentialism and believes that only he exists, and that the entire physical universe is a product of his imagination.
            
            Cats are quite self-centred like that

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               Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I'm sure he finds that quite CAThartic.

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         SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         prophecy comes true when the people do nothing

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   "They don't know what they do." Let the end begin and then our new world order folks will be able to call it climate change.

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   the lack in understanding prophecy is noted.
   
   "and there shall be one world order" <---- pretty uncear.

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      Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And the world shall comprise twenty cats...

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         More philosophy?

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            Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yep.

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               sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Para! Go to the light! Go to the light!

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                  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Steer for the light, sailor, steer for the light...
                  
                  Moody & Sankey, I think?

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    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    
    
    lolololololololololololololololo hahahahahahahahahahahah hehehehehehehehehehehehe giggle giggle all the way to the lake of fire.

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       Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Your answer to everything - believe what I believe or burn in hell. What a charming chap you are

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    C.J. Wrightposted 14 years ago

    "Good Fences make good neighbors"....Robert Frost...
    
    Thats my take on the issue....NO, no country should give up it's souverenity.

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    Paragliderposted 14 years ago

    sovereignty

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       C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yea, that. Sorry I copied it from the title....
       Are you now my personal spell checker? Is that what you do when you don't like what I have to say....seems to be a pattern.

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    bojanglesk8posted 14 years ago

    That would be interesting... But who would be the leader?

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    Sufidreamerposted 14 years ago

    
    
    He plans to study esCATology, next

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    Mine is not so motivated.  He's mostly CATatonic.

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       Bibowenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Then I'd suggest he get motivated. Otherwise, the results could be CATastrophic

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          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          We may need a CAtalyst for change to take place.

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             sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             we may need a CATscan on your head

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                earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                We may need to CATalogue your entire brain to find an original thought.

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                Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Pussy

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Mine's been spewing toxic emissions.  Might need a new CATalytic converter.

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                Bibowenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                You're obviously overworked...perhaps a vacation on CATalina?

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                   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I hate that place!  Too many CATerpillars

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                earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Or a CATnap perhaps.

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                   Bibowenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Which is usually what I need after reading CATcher in the Rye.

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                      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      I think I'm going to KATmandu

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                         Bibowenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         You should go in a CATamaran.

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    awareposted 14 years ago

    no overpopulation is a myth i think

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       sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       me too. I figured that out last time I drove across the US.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Where was my tin foil?

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       Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Um, on your head.

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Ah, thank you! I thought I lost it

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             Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Can't be too careful where those pesky aliens are concerned.

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Since coming to the religious forums I buy my tinfoil in the 50 foot rolls.

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                qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Earn:
                G'day mate...:-)

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thats exactly why you should repent and drop down to your knees and beg a conservative for forgiveness.

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    oldenuf2nobetterposted 14 years ago

    I think the prospect of a single government controlling the world is a horrible prospect.
    The whole world sharing resources equally is nice to fantasize about but that will never happen.

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    Cleancloverposted 14 years ago

    No. Muslims and hindus will oppose a christain country's rule.

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    Bovine Currencyposted 14 years ago

    One government is like world peace, good in theory.

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    jiberishposted 14 years ago

    Soros wants to kill capitalism:
    
    “The system we have now has actually broken down, only we haven’t quite recognized it and so you need to create a new one and this is the time to do it,” Soros told the Financial Times last month
    
    Soros said he wants Communist China to run this new financial system. “You really need to bring China into the creation of a new world order, a financial world order,” Soros said.
    
    If that doesn’t send a chill down the spines of freedom lovers in America and elsewhere, nothing will.
    
    In an interview with Der Spiegel last year Soros said European-style socialism “is exactly what we need now. I am against market fundamentalism. I think this propaganda that government involvement is always bad has been very successful — but also very harmful to our society.”
    
    http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/05/the … apitalism/

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    GeneriqueMediaposted 14 years ago

    The very idea that the US would secede control to the United Nations is..odd. They're are toys, not the other way around.
    
    As far as a global government creating peace, it'd be quite the other way around. The more government the less freedom.
    
    A global power only ensures that when the tyrant gets into office and performs a coup--and it would be only a matter of time--you have less of a chance of escaping it.

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    TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

    *kicks and screams* No. No! NOOOOOO!!!!
    
    *cringes while thinking about Brave New World, 1984, The Handmaid's Tale...continues to kick and scream*

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    jpop13posted 14 years ago

    What if a Hitler were to get elected? Who would stop him then? No one. The worlds governments should work together for the greater good but to unify their power is only going to lead to a genocide, That i garentee.

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    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    I think that there is a left/right paradigm that is used to divide people.
    
    There is also a deity discussion that further divides us.
    
    Then skin tone is used to separate us.
    
    The accumulation of wealth is used against us.
    
    The groups that lead these debates are all controlled by the same entities.
    
    
    International Bankers

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       qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Arthur:
       Did you read my response to you?
       About 15 minutes ago?
       Or are ya just ignoring it?
       lol NP

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          Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I just saw it qwark I looked for your hub but was not sure which one.
          
          
          Let me know.  I will read the hub and respond to you.
          
          
          I just stopped in for a bit.
          
          I have not seen this forum since I joined it was my first thread I think.
          
          
          I was compared to Doctor evil.  LOL

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             qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Arthur:
             lolol...NP!
             I saw what your last post said and thought he just got back and didn't review. I do it all the time. I'll get ya my "hub" on it...:-)
             Here ya go Arthur;
             http://hubpages.com/hub/qwark19

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    Madame Xposted 14 years ago

    you were serious?

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