Hub traffic

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  1. Carb Diva profile image95
    Carb Divaposted 11 years ago

    What is going on? One week ago I received notification from HubPages that several of my hubs would no longer be featured because of declining traffic. I suppose this means that I should jump in and recast, reformat, and re-invent what had previously been a fully accepted and supported hub.

    Well, I didn't have time to do that and, GUESS WHAT!? Today I've checked back and those formerly "unworthy" hubs are now again "featured".


    I'm ready to abandon ship and stop wasting my time on this sinking/rudderless boat. Does anyone else feel this way?

    1. Barbara Kay profile image75
      Barbara Kayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It may have gone through the QAP and they passed it. Old hubs are being assessed now.

    2. bgpappa profile image78
      bgpappaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I know I am too.  What happened to you shows you just how arbitrary the new standards are.  No consistency and really just depends on a ever changing computer alg. or the mood of the reviewer.

  2. ameliam.michelle1 profile image60
    ameliam.michelle1posted 11 years ago

    Well Diva, it is a bit confusing, but do not worry, just revamp your hubs, brush up the content, actually hubpages have been monitoring and evaluating the hubs of everyone, and it is quite natural that scores fluctuate and sometimes even your best hubs may go into danger zone. My advise to you would be to remain patient

  3. Andy McGuire profile image72
    Andy McGuireposted 11 years ago

    I've had a similar issue, and I am always looking to increase my traffic (hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge). I don't know why it does these things.

  4. ossmedia profile image57
    ossmediaposted 11 years ago

    Well being non featured , quality is the main issue.  Just make it more optimized and you will get your hub featured.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image86
      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Not quite right, ossmedia.  There are two possible reasons why a Hub can be unFeatured.  They're identified by different symbols on your Account page.

      One is if it fails the Quality process.  The other is "lack of engagement" - which means, pure and simple, insufficient traffic.

      In the future, HubPages says it will improve the "lack of engagement" measure to include other factors as well as traffic, but right now it's just traffic.

      1. ossmedia profile image57
        ossmediaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Well  you are absolutely right but i think quality is the main factor to get it featured. In case of second reason "Traffic" it is the reason to increase hub score but if your hub is of low quality and title is not cachy then visitors cant get back easily. According to me quality is the main factor and traffic is the second issue which need to be take care of.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image86
          Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          The point I was making is that a Hub can be unFeatured for two specific reasons, and if you hover over the symbols on the Account page, you'll see which Hubs have been unFeatured for quality and which for lack of traffic.

          I think what you're saying is that if a Hub isn't getting enough traffic, it's probably because it's not good quality. I disagree, because on the internet there are far more likely reasons.

          The main one is poor SEO, which just means that the writer hasn't asked himself, "What would people be most likely to type into Google to find this Hub?".    If the writer doesn't include those words, and variations on them in the title and in the text, then it won't get traffic even if it's of spectacular quality.

          The other possible reason is that very few people are searching for the subject in the first place - if that's the case, it will never get traffic whatever you do.

          Then there is competition - if there are already thousands of articles on that topic on the internet, then your brand new Hub is unlikely to get noticed.

          That's why it's important to check why HubPages says it has unFeatured a Hub - because if it's Quality, then you need to address the Hub's quality. But if it's Engagement, then you need to check those other factors first, before you start expanding or rewriting.

          1. ossmedia profile image57
            ossmediaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Well, agreed  with your facts, but i have seen so many hubs which have daily 30-40 visitors but still in unfeatured zone. If i am getting your point ( Hub can be unFeatured for two specific reasons, and if you hover over the symbols on the Account page, you'll see which Hubs have been unFeatured for quality and which for lack of traffic.) then acquiring traffic increase day by day doesn't affect the hub. If the hub in of low quality then why visitors are visiting hub frequently.

            Let me tell you one more eg-  I have submitted hub and it get featured in 4-5 hours but still not acquiring traffic . According to your point "featured  hub" depends upon both facts-  traffic and quality. If my hub is not in state to get featured due to quality then why hub is featured.  If hub is featured then it means hub passed the quality test , still not acquiring traffic.

            1. Marisa Wright profile image86
              Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Hubs are given time to get traffic.  Obviously, it would be silly of HubPages to unFeature a Hub before they've given it a chance to get some visitors.

              So yes, if a new Hub is Featured, it's because it passed the QAP.   If it is unFeatured, it's because it's failed the QAP.

              It is only older hubs that can be unFeatured for lack of traffic - and in that case, as I said, it is more likely to be other factors, not quality, that are the problem.

              1. ossmedia profile image57
                ossmediaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                @Marisa   Sometimes we are not able to understand the policies of hp as there are lots of eg which shows negligence of terms and conditions to get hub featured.

                I was thinking What we are doing here ? Do we post content here for visitors or we post here for brand image?  Do we post here to get hub featured only ? I think we have to post content for visitors/users  so that visitors can increase their knowledge and share thoughts with others.

                1. Marisa Wright profile image86
                  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  If your Hub is not Featured, virtually no one can see it.  So yes, you are posting here to get your Hub featured - there is no point otherwise.

                  1. ossmedia profile image57
                    ossmediaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    Might be hubbers post their hub to get it featured but i prefer to share knowledge with others.  Featured hub is much more important to me as if need of hub should be completed.

  5. Danielspages2013 profile image59
    Danielspages2013posted 11 years ago

    You could always go back and add some extra content to those "unworthy" hubs like; video, add some links to backup your hub, add more pics, ect, ect.

  6. Iammattdoran profile image91
    Iammattdoranposted 11 years ago

    It's probably just a traffic issue.  Declining traffic made them unfeatured and then traffic picked up (this can be quite random) and they re-hit the target for being featured again.  Hey, at least you got them back to being featured without having to do anything.  I don't agree that this is a sinking/rudderless boat but if that's the way you feel...

    1. Judi Bee profile image89
      Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If they've become unfeatured for lack of traffic ("engagement"), and you do nothing to them, I'm not sure how traffic can pick up - they're meant to be hidden from the search engines thereby ensuring that they don't get the thing they lack:  traffic.

      1. SimeyC profile image86
        SimeyCposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        There will always be a time delay between being unfeatured and de-indexed. So it's possible a hub can get extra traffic that will just 'tip' it above the engagement level required, thus allowing it to become re-featured.

        If a hub is in and out of featrued status then it's getting borderline traffic....

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          There are other reasons, apparently lumped in with engagement, as well.  I've got one hub that gets zero SE traffic and is always bouncing in and out of featured, but never for quality reasons.  We know hubber score plays a part, for instance.

        2. Judi Bee profile image89
          Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Ah, I see.

  7. Kangaroo_Jase profile image72
    Kangaroo_Jaseposted 11 years ago

    Each time your Hubs go through the QAP process, they may fluctuate with a change and become featured or unfeatured. This happens often, and may also happen when you update hubs, or not.

    You can jump ship.

    Change your hubs or

    Do nothing or

    Write more hubs.

    This will continue for some time and may or may not change with future updates.

    No I don't feel I should jump ship as I know that change will be a constant on HubPages. How one deals with change and responds according is as unique as you and me.

    1. Poshbytori profile image70
      Poshbytoriposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I have also found that linking to my hubs have help boost them back into "featured".  For example, I wrote a hub on "Can I Get Fired for Using Medical Marijuana" (As an employer it was a serious question I had and did a lot of research on so I could adjust my Employee Handbook).  Anyways, the Hub was rejected.  I then linked to it in probably a dozen other Hubs that were similar in ways, such as my Job Interview Tips, As Written By An Employer, etc.  In only a few days the hub started getting hits and it became accepted. 

      Also, keyword linking in your other articles works too.  For example, lets say you write an article like mine about Medical Marijuana and you also write other articles that you use the keywords "marijuana", "smoke pot", "weed" or even "fired for drug use", "fired for smoking", etc - be sure to link on these keywords to your article that you want to get read. 

      A final tip is to take a gamble and expand upon what you wrote with more linked article.  An example of this would be the Medical Marijuana / Employment article I wrote then writing a second article about "What Is Medical Marijuana" then a 3rd about "Medical Marijuana Growing Laws", etc.  OR if you're not at all interested in learning about Medical Marijuana growing / laws, instead write about more Employer / Job Applicant advice, such as "Should I Tell My Employer I Use Medical Marijuana?" or "Can I Get Fired for Prescription Drug Use?". (Of course be sure to link where applicable!)

      - Just my opinion! Hope this helps!!

  8. brblog profile image81
    brblogposted 11 years ago

    I can't add much to the discussion but I do like reading everyone's thoughts and opinions on this subject. Thanks for asking the question . . .

  9. zanaworld profile image57
    zanaworldposted 11 years ago

    I wonder, how much traffic is required to remain FEATURED?

  10. profile image87
    Robbie C Wilsonposted 11 years ago

    Hi Zanaworld,
                             Some of my worst performing hubs that are still featured get around 6 hits per month, so I suspect that it is very low indeed. I will look to improve their performance at some point, more SEO etc, otherwise I will let them bounce along the bottom...

  11. Hezekiah profile image86
    Hezekiahposted 11 years ago

    I have gotten that recently. I think it's actually a good thing. I encourage you to beef up your hubs, for better Google rankings and of course more money.

    1. ameliam.michelle1 profile image60
      ameliam.michelle1posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      But beefing up the hubs sometimes result in sending the signals that you are manipulating the HP. HP is going through quality changes, that is the reason behind this fluctuation. But beefing up the content with loaded information will definitely help

  12. God is in kitchn2 profile image57
    God is in kitchn2posted 11 years ago

    It's really tough time here!

  13. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    No one seems to have noticed that OP was not complaining about being unfeatured.  But about how arbitrary it was that he got unfeatured and refeatured again before he even had time to do anything.

  14. Elsy Chapmon profile image60
    Elsy Chapmonposted 11 years ago

    I have tried once, I thought I was wrong but you let me know it is possible...

  15. ameliam.michelle1 profile image60
    ameliam.michelle1posted 11 years ago

    If a hub is getting unfeatures,, then there are couple of reason behind that. Declining traffic is a issue, however HP is going through some qualitative changes, someway down the line this is also contributing to hubs getting violently shaken and quality hubs getting unfeatured, however, it will subside in due course of time.

  16. Astra Nomik profile image64
    Astra Nomikposted 11 years ago

    I revamped, re-worked some photos and artwork and improved my poetry hubs recently... and my hubs are back all featured. Poetry is tricky to revamp. You write the poem, and that's it, pretty much.

    Just update and retweet or bookmark and recommend it to your growing audience and hope for the best. It helps if the hubs are being read and getting traffic of course.

    1. ameliam.michelle1 profile image60
      ameliam.michelle1posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Astra poetry or for that matter all creative works are slightly difficult when it comes to revamping.

  17. lovebuglena profile image85
    lovebuglenaposted 11 years ago

    Some months ago I had a lot of my hubs all of a sudden unfeatured. Then when HubPages brought back the QAP those hubs became featured again... and I don't remember revamping them in any way...


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