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Who Is Willing To Admit Their Honest Internet Earnings-I Will Be First

  1. Dame Scribe profile image60
    Dame Scribeposted 8 years ago

    That's not allowed hmm or lose your account for our ads anyways, lol

    1. Pamda Man profile image51
      Pamda Manposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why did you spoil the fun? sad

    2. candice5 profile image60
      candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why on earth is that, I cannot see that it is at all important. Is that because most would be very Low, or what????????? Sorry if I sound thick.

    3. guidebaba profile image61
      guidebabaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      roll  roll  roll

      lol lol lol

      Joke of the century.

      lol lol lol

      1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
        Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Well i guess the joke is on me then.

        Oh well

  2. Dale Mazurek profile image73
    Dale Mazurekposted 8 years ago

    I didnt realize it wasnt allowed.  It is deleted.  Im sorry.  I just wanted other hubbers to know that honest marketing is possible.

    1. Pamda Man profile image51
      Pamda Manposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No need to apologize. You didn't know. smile

    2. Mobile Phones profile image54
      Mobile Phonesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Don't share your online income very OPENLY. It breaks T&Cs mainly with Google Adsense and also gives easy access to your hard work to spammers who are looking for content of high earning people with their writing. They just copy, edit and publish spoiling all your hard work.

      1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
        Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I am quite careful when it comes to my internet earnings.  to be honest other than a few dollars on adsense here my affiliate earnings do not come from here and it would be greatly difficult for anyone to pick up my actual trail as my partner and I are very careful to not give away what our main source of income really is.

        However I do understand what you are getting at.

  3. jdmaffiliate profile image57
    jdmaffiliateposted 8 years ago

    I guess I looked to late.  As a person new to affiliate marketing I sure would have liked to see the numbers you were talking about.

    oh well maybe you could email me with the numbers.

    1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
      Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I will think about emailing you but we too have to be careful as to not get accused of spamming in our emails.  I guess I wont be sending you any links so it should be okay.

      Never the less I will think about it

  4. bgpappa profile image82
    bgpappaposted 8 years ago

    Its not allowed because it is a violation of Google's TOS.  And, from what I heard, they enforce it very harshly.

    1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
      Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I wasnt talking about adsense earnings but rather my online earnings all together.  I have 4 streams of income and the number I was talking about was all of them added together.

      1. Pamda Man profile image51
        Pamda Manposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Maybe Dame Scribe fooled you. Lol.

        1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
          Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Maybe she did or didn't but either way I was just trying to show Hubbers who feel like they are hitting dead ends that there really is a true income to be made on the internet.  I normally wouldnt talk about my earnings but went out on a limb.

          Im reading Hubpages TOS to find out where I broke the rules but so far cant find it.  If someone can help please direct me.

          1. candice5 profile image60
            candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I can't see where it expressly says that either, its all in the writing, and the T.O.S. is not really saying that, from where I am standing.

          2. Jane@CM profile image60
            Jane@CMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Write a hub about it smile

            1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
              Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              I now know that is the best idea and will start working on one shortly.

    2. candice5 profile image60
      candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Then I can't figure that there is a lady saying something like $99.45 will I make it, isn't that the same thing?
      Its on this same Forum.Another is saying $4.43 adsense in a Month.

  5. Pamda Man profile image51
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    Dame Scribe made less money so she was jealous at you. Lol. lol

    1. candice5 profile image60
      candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That could be a reason, people hate to admit that they get less, smile But I am sure she is bigger than that though.

    2. Dale Mazurek profile image73
      Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That is not why I wrote it.  My only intention was to let fellow Hubbers know what is possible by an average individual.

      Im sure it had nothing to do with being jealous.  Dame Scribe has always been fair with me and I do trust her and thats why I deleted the post so quick.  However I still cant find it in the TOS

      1. candice5 profile image60
        candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        If someone can find it can they paste the bit on here, I think I have been looking to long.

  6. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    I can assure you she is. Dame Scribe is a very respected person here.

    1. candice5 profile image60
      candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yees I got that I don't know that many people, but I gathered she was definitely NO novice.

    2. VioletSun profile image80
      VioletSunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Was thinking the same thing. wink

      1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
        Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        She absolutely is and I would never say a negative thing about her.  I believe it was just a misunderstanding and she thought I was talking about adsense earnings.

  7. Pamda Man profile image51
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    /thread then I guess.

  8. Pamda Man profile image51
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    Lol. I've never seen a spammer on HubPages. I better catalog this on my hub. I always see flamers.

  9. Pamda Man profile image51
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    And yes, I was right. They come in packs. Lethal. Can destroy a thread within minutes. Where are the moderators? HELP!

  10. Lisa HW profile image79
    Lisa HWposted 8 years ago

    I was under the impression people could talk in generalities about their online earnings, but that Google prohibits talking about "proprietary" information (like the data that shows up on your Google reports).

    I was also under the impression people could be free to state their earnings, as long as they didn't add detail beyond that.
     
    Am I wrong?  (Of course, to be safe it can be a good idea just to not talk about it.)

  11. Pamda Man profile image51
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    Come on guys. I was just kidding.

    1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
      Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh I absolutely know you werent serious

      1. chucky12 profile image55
        chucky12posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        O.K  I am only to willing to declare mine, irrespective of wether the C.I.R. are lookin  I have made the princely sum of nothing. But I haven't written anything either, is there a connection.

  12. Dame Scribe profile image60
    Dame Scribeposted 8 years ago

    Was busy reading hubs from the hub challenge and fans lol lol ...yeah...tis a no no talkn bout earnings with G hmm but apologies to you Dale sad didn't realize you were talkin bout *other* income streams. That is up to you but jus wanted caution with the *G* accounts hmm and thank you for the kind words. smile goin go blush in the closet, k tongue lol

    1. Dale Mazurek profile image73
      Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No need to apologize.  I know you would never purposely steer anyone in the wrong direction.

      I deleted the original post just in case you were right.

      Anyways no harm no foul.  So now should I repost my earnings and try this again  hmmmm

  13. Pamda Man profile image51
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    To put it in short, he gained 7000 this year's anniversary. Split with his wife 50-50. Next year's goal 10k.

    1. candice5 profile image60
      candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ha Ha that spammer is from Guang Zhou, I actually liked the Bags is that bad.

      1. Pamda Man profile image51
        Pamda Manposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Ha, I was right. He's from China.

        1. candice5 profile image60
          candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Squidward is taking over is he usmanali

    2. Dale Mazurek profile image73
      Dale Mazurekposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well I better clarify a few things.  It was 7000 in the month of July split with my internet partner and not my wife.  Even though we all know my wife gets more than half  lol.

      We have been online for a year and I wouldnt normally report my earnings but I just wanted to show some of the frustrated hubbers that there is hope for normal people who are willing to work hard

      Oh ya and this doesnt include adsense earnings.  That I wont talk about.

  14. Ultimate Hubber profile image71
    Ultimate Hubberposted 8 years ago

    OH PLEASE!!!

    Guys it is allowed. Carry on with the thread.

    If you don't trust me then read Google TOS.... They prohibit sharing adsense income and there is no harm in sharing overall revenues and earnings and people earn from a number of affiliates other than Adsense like ebay, amazon etc.

    So lets carry on with the thread... Share your income

    And you Dame Scribe... I want to know your income in particular big_smile big_smile big_smile

  15. Deborah-Lynn profile image80
    Deborah-Lynnposted 8 years ago

    Hi, I am new (about two weeks),  have so many questions and I read that the more mature members, experienced I mean, are available to help get us started.  Would this be the forum to ask questions about things like how to get set up with the list of affiliates I found on my home page?  I wondered if there is a way to follow that is more direct without heading out in too many directions at once, but tie the affiliates all together to my work somehow?

  16. profile image0
    Ghost32posted 8 years ago

    Dale, I'm entirely guessing at this, but aside from  Google's rules  (which of course we violate at our considerable peril), I can see why we might not want to post earnings per se.  Bear with me; let's see if I can get it into words that make sense from both perspectives (Google's and "us Hubbers):

    1.  Google may not want it done because quite simply knowledge is power and giving away knowledge is giving away power.  Huh?  Well, let's suppose there was a direct competitor for advertising revenue out there by the imaginary name of Microhoo.  One Hubber (it would only require one) is able to provide his or her bosses with detailed earnings info on just how well AdSense is doing for writers.

    Microhoo then goes to advertisers with a pitch like, "Hey, you know that Google over there is paying these dumb writers X amount of dollars, and that's money out of YOUR pockets; let us show you a better deal."  Or something like that.  Trade secrets are more precious than gold in a highly competitive environment, and there is no more competitive envirionment than the Internet when it comes to the almighty dollar.

    2.  When it comes to us field-grubbing keyboard hacks, it's a little different:

    A.  If you (for example) post and I'm making about the same, no big.  I figure, hey, Dale is a good ol' boy, gives me a warm fuzzy knowing we're running neck and neck.  (One possibility.)

    B.  If you're making a million bucks a minute and I'm making zilch, now the manure hits the whirly-giggy thing.  It MAY inspire me to write like mad, because you're a shining example that it can be done.  But it MAY just as likely irritate me irrationally (why is HE getting favored?) or crush me (I've written more stuff than him and I'm still making zip, guess I'm a loser, shut down, go jump off a bridge.)

    C.  If I'm making MORE than you but not enough to make me happy even so, then I MAY think, hey, he's struggling, it's probably going to downturn on me, too.

    Part of it's logical, part of it's vicious, part of it's the pure vulnerability of the human psyche.

    Like I said, I'm guessing.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
      Eaglekiwiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yea no free market for Google lol

  17. Ultimate Hubber profile image71
    Ultimate Hubberposted 8 years ago

    Posting earnings is not against Google's TOS... Read my previous post in this thread.

  18. Dale Nelson profile image43
    Dale Nelsonposted 8 years ago

    Doesnt seem like earnings is relevant in this post,but after reading lingali's 100th hub got some great advice and started trying it. about a third of my traffic now comes from yahoo search and bring good hits.realised though that you dont need to spam your content with keywords.Just list a few longtail keywords in your hub and they will find you easily.ads are then specific to your content and helps searchers find exactly what they looking for wether your hub is commercila or not.

    Anyone agree or disagree?

  19. Dame Scribe profile image60
    Dame Scribeposted 8 years ago

    I make enough offline to pay my bills and spoil my kids, big_smile hehe

    1. viryabo profile image84
      viryaboposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh Dame Scribe smile, im bottle green with envy. smile

  20. Silver Rose profile image66
    Silver Roseposted 8 years ago

    Here's what the Google terms and conditions say:

    8.1        You shall not disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent. "Google Confidential Information" means: (a) all Google software, technology, programming, specifications, materials, guidelines and documentation relating to the Programme; (b) click-through rates or other statistics relating to Property performance in the Programme provided to You by Google; and (c) any other information designated in writing by Google as "Confidential" or an equivalent designation or which it is reasonably apparent should be treated as confidential.

    8.2        Notwithstanding the foregoing, You may accurately disclose the amount of Google’s gross payments to You pursuant to the Programme.

    8.3        Google Confidential Information does not include information that has become publicly known through no breach by You or Google, or information that has been (a) independently developed by You without access to Google Confidential Information, as evidenced in writing; (a) lawfully received by You from a third party who has not disclosed it in breach of any obligation of confidentiality; or (c) required to be disclosed by law, provided that You give Google prompt, and, if at all possible, prior, notice of such disclosure.


    Hope this helps!!!

  21. Dame Scribe profile image60
    Dame Scribeposted 8 years ago

    I wasn't setting out for any sort of argument or debate hmm it's just so people don't breach any TOS. Pardon my concern for others.

  22. 3bagsfull profile image69
    3bagsfullposted 8 years ago
  23. wrenfrost56 profile image81
    wrenfrost56posted 8 years ago

    Wow what a controversial subject!

  24. relache profile image89
    relacheposted 8 years ago

    Saying what you earn isn't a problem.

    But if you disclose any of the details of how you got that (CTR, what ads paid, etc) then you're violating Google's AdSense TOS.

 
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