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to ban or not to ban!

  1. myownworld profile image78
    myownworldposted 8 years ago

    I do know lots of people on the forums one doesn't agree with, but if they cross lines, a 3 day ban suffices. (besides, u avoid them!)

    However, lately, HT (Health Tips) was banned permanently from the forums. Since then, i see him making a lot of effort to write hubs, write as who he is i.e. 'Art', and generally staying cool....don't u think it's too harsh to ban anyone PERMANENTLY here?

    not trying to create 'drama'...just genuinely concerned!

  2. Mark Knowles profile image60
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    Who is HT?

    1. myownworld profile image78
      myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol...Heatlh Tips! ( see that's what a permanent ban does to u....no one knows u anymore!)

    2. darkside profile image83
      darksideposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Healthtip, Badcompany99, badco, badcompany77, cabingirl, cabingirl., pirategirl, redneckman... the list goes on.

      He's been banned from the forum a few times. When he's not being banned he's throwing temper tantrums, threatens to leave, says he's giving up the sockpuppet shows but then comes back with new ones... the drama goes on.

      I thought being banned agreed with him. He got to actually publish hubs instead of making snipey remarks or gay slurs about me.

      1. myownworld profile image78
        myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I see your point, and I do realize that it was all getting a bit over the top. But then, i have seen worst stuff going on in some of religious forums, and not to mention names, some even posting the vilest of comments here and getting away with it. Surely, if someone makes a genuine effort to improve, they should be given a chance. besides, rules here shouldn't be as inflexible as...well, real life! smile

        1. darkside profile image83
          darksideposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          You've been here 3 months. The game playing and apologies and broken promises have been going on a lot longer than that.

          Like life there is a time when someone says enough is enough. That someone is HubPages HQ.

        2. rebekahELLE profile image89
          rebekahELLEposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          ever notice the new forum attention getters?? they're never really gone.

          1. myownworld profile image78
            myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            lol yeah!! atleast, whatever Art wrote, had some taste to it, these ones are just a persistent eyesore!

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    lyricsingrayposted 8 years ago

    ouch, for real, what could have been that severe to ban someone permanently, and a doctor no less!  hmm:

  4. Pearldiver profile image81
    Pearldiverposted 8 years ago

    What was he banned for?
    What do you mean he was banned from HP?
    Are you sure it wasn't just from forums?

    1. myownworld profile image78
      myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      yes, the forums only. but what concerns me is that what is so serious that it incurs a permanent ban from the forums? in anyone's case actually....

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        lyricsingrayposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        That bites big time. sad

  5. Mark Knowles profile image60
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    LOL

    I was never usually involved in the drama surrounding badco.

    I guess one too many temp bans will get you banned permanently.wink

  6. Eric Graudins profile image59
    Eric Graudinsposted 8 years ago

    Even all,
    What's happening, dudes and dudesses.

    I don't come here for ages, and the first thing I see is that badco had been banned.

    yawn. Same old, same old.

    anyway, hi there - to anyone who remembers me :-)

    1. myownworld profile image78
      myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      hey, eric..how can anyone forget you! like it or not, u have become associated with badco now!!! wink

    2. Pearldiver profile image81
      Pearldiverposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric & Eric... G'ello mate!

      How's it going? You take care... both of you smile

    3. Uninvited Writer profile image83
      Uninvited Writerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Glad to see you back.

  7. Niteriter profile image77
    Niteriterposted 8 years ago

    You are remembered fondly, Mr. Graudins. My feelings toward you have changed dramatically during the time you were absent. Welcome back!

  8. blue dog profile image74
    blue dogposted 8 years ago

    am in agreement w/darkside on this.  somewhere in the mix you throw in discipline.  if a child keeps breaking established rules, one has to adapt by finding other measures.  i've only been here four months, yet the drama queen act was so very tiring, even during that short time.

    the game of mental manipulation is a serious one  and should not be taken lightly.  it's unfortunate that so many fell for the act.

  9. myownworld profile image78
    myownworldposted 8 years ago

    I realize I'm still new here, but from what I've seen so far, (and at the cost of repeating myself), I still think there are people here with much lesser to contribute to hub pages and yet getting away with nasty forum posts on a regular basis.

    In Art's case, I think he just offended the wrong people (or rather the 'right' ones) and hence was permanently banned, where so many others go unnoticed.

    I'm sorry...but I just don't believe in such hard and 'final' rules when it comes to someone (anyone) making a genuine effort to do better. smile

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image65
      prettydarkhorseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      hi myownworld, good day to you, I didnt know that Mr. Health Tip was banned forever?

    2. Marisa Wright profile image99
      Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm very sorry to hear that HT has gone and blotted his copy book again. I really did think he'd turned over a new leaf. 

      I think Darkside is a bit too hard on him, but on the other hand, he has been banned several times and come back promising to behave - there's such a thing as stepping over the line once too often, and I can only assume he's done that.

      1. darkside profile image83
        darksideposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I did read, in Art's own words, that he was on a final warning. Even after all the chances HP gave him and being warned, he still stepped over the line several times. He only has himself to blame.

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      Justine76posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I see what your saying, but nothing is preventing him from getting yet another profile, if he  wanted to be in the forums. Its not all that final, really. He is still able to be on hubpages, we can all chat via his hubs, and he does have an email address. He has "left" the forums and hubpages, of his own accord, soooooooo many times, Im sure he's fine. It may seem one sided, but I haven't been here or known enough hubbers to be sure, perhaps others have been banned as well. I agree, its not the same without him.

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    ralwusposted 8 years ago

    Was   it just HT or all of his alter egos too? Maybe he will turn up in another form. He always did before.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Pretty sure they have the technical skills to ban an IP address. smile

      Hey Eric!

  11. Uninvited Writer profile image83
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    I, for one, am surprised that it took so long.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 8 years ago

    I don't think it's ever necessary to ban anyone. The community of posters could easily police problems by ignoring those only here for attention or to formulate problems and discontent.

    But, it is "their" forum so "they" can do whatever "they" like.

    1. myownworld profile image78
      myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      smile trust u to get the point exactly!
      besides, if there are rules, then they should be the same for all.....!

      1. darkside profile image83
        darksideposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I agree with you. And when those people have as many suspensions and warnings as BadCo they can get a permanent ban from the forums too.

        1. myownworld profile image78
          myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          sorry DS, I just can't make myself to understand the idea of a 'permanent' ban for posts here, esp. when someone is trying hard not to repeat mistakes, failing yes, but trying nevertheless! smile

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            Justine76posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            how do you know its permanent? it is slow around here these days....

          2. darkside profile image83
            darksideposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Not sure where you get that "is trying hard not to repeat mistakes" because all I saw was repeats of the same behaviour again and again.

            Permanent forum bans are nothing new. I know of at least one hubber who was banned from the forum, given a second chance, and blew it. BadCo has had more chances than this person.

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        Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Moderators never enforce the TOS equally. They are people, with their own likes, dislikes, opinions, and thoughts. They often tend to single out someone they may find distasteful even if the community does not. I guess it's something we all have to live with.

        1. myownworld profile image78
          myownworldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          yes, I know....hell, we've successfully managed to turn 'cyber' space into something as boring and restrictive as real life!!! now that's what I call real 'art' ! (something even he couldn't match!) wink

          (lol @ T)

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            Justine76posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            sad lets be naughty then...

    2. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I would like more freedom.
      We are all grown ups !

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        Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I think most of us would! However, there are other forums where anything goes!

        1. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          But they don't have quality writers, as most of the people here.

  13. Mrvoodoo profile image60
    Mrvoodooposted 8 years ago

    BC/HT would turn against anybody who crossed him with the spite and aggression of a spoilt child.  But by the same token he could be very funny and was supportive and encouraging of new hubbers.

    Very much a Jekyll & Hyde character.

    One thing I've noticed though (and not necessarily because of the loss of BC) is that the forums are becoming incredibly dull.  Anything with even a sniff of fun about it soon becomes 'closed to reply'.

    Censored like the naughty children we are.

  14. rmcrayne profile image95
    rmcrayneposted 8 years ago

    Badcompany99 was my first fan, and that was from the forums, before I published my first hub.  He has since read and commented on many of my hubs.  As Mrvoodoo said, he is very supportive of new hubbers, and I think many veteran hubbers as well.  I hope he continues to write his hubs and support others. He has spoken of his demons, but can't seem to get the upper hand on them.

  15. ddsurfsca profile image73
    ddsurfscaposted 8 years ago

    It seems to me that whether he's here or not he is still managing to be the center of attention, not that there is anything wrong with that, but I have noticed that in a few areas there are people who just take over the discussion until there is nobody left to argue with.  Is that winning the debate? or does that lead right back to one of my other questions about determination and stubborness.  Does one really win if all opposing views give up and leave?

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