I do know lots of people on the forums one doesn't agree with, but if they cross lines, a 3 day ban suffices. (besides, u avoid them!)
However, lately, HT (Health Tips) was banned permanently from the forums. Since then, i see him making a lot of effort to write hubs, write as who he is i.e. 'Art', and generally staying cool....don't u think it's too harsh to ban anyone PERMANENTLY here?
not trying to create 'drama'...just genuinely concerned!
Healthtip, Badcompany99, badco, badcompany77, cabingirl, cabingirl., pirategirl, redneckman... the list goes on.
He's been banned from the forum a few times. When he's not being banned he's throwing temper tantrums, threatens to leave, says he's giving up the sockpuppet shows but then comes back with new ones... the drama goes on.
I thought being banned agreed with him. He got to actually publish hubs instead of making snipey remarks or gay slurs about me.
I see your point, and I do realize that it was all getting a bit over the top. But then, i have seen worst stuff going on in some of religious forums, and not to mention names, some even posting the vilest of comments here and getting away with it. Surely, if someone makes a genuine effort to improve, they should be given a chance. besides, rules here shouldn't be as inflexible as...well, real life!
am in agreement w/darkside on this. somewhere in the mix you throw in discipline. if a child keeps breaking established rules, one has to adapt by finding other measures. i've only been here four months, yet the drama queen act was so very tiring, even during that short time.
the game of mental manipulation is a serious one and should not be taken lightly. it's unfortunate that so many fell for the act.
I realize I'm still new here, but from what I've seen so far, (and at the cost of repeating myself), I still think there are people here with much lesser to contribute to hub pages and yet getting away with nasty forum posts on a regular basis.
In Art's case, I think he just offended the wrong people (or rather the 'right' ones) and hence was permanently banned, where so many others go unnoticed.
I'm sorry...but I just don't believe in such hard and 'final' rules when it comes to someone (anyone) making a genuine effort to do better.
I'm very sorry to hear that HT has gone and blotted his copy book again. I really did think he'd turned over a new leaf.
I think Darkside is a bit too hard on him, but on the other hand, he has been banned several times and come back promising to behave - there's such a thing as stepping over the line once too often, and I can only assume he's done that.
I see what your saying, but nothing is preventing him from getting yet another profile, if he wanted to be in the forums. Its not all that final, really. He is still able to be on hubpages, we can all chat via his hubs, and he does have an email address. He has "left" the forums and hubpages, of his own accord, soooooooo many times, Im sure he's fine. It may seem one sided, but I haven't been here or known enough hubbers to be sure, perhaps others have been banned as well. I agree, its not the same without him.
Moderators never enforce the TOS equally. They are people, with their own likes, dislikes, opinions, and thoughts. They often tend to single out someone they may find distasteful even if the community does not. I guess it's something we all have to live with.
BC/HT would turn against anybody who crossed him with the spite and aggression of a spoilt child. But by the same token he could be very funny and was supportive and encouraging of new hubbers.
Very much a Jekyll & Hyde character.
One thing I've noticed though (and not necessarily because of the loss of BC) is that the forums are becoming incredibly dull. Anything with even a sniff of fun about it soon becomes 'closed to reply'.
Badcompany99 was my first fan, and that was from the forums, before I published my first hub. He has since read and commented on many of my hubs. As Mrvoodoo said, he is very supportive of new hubbers, and I think many veteran hubbers as well. I hope he continues to write his hubs and support others. He has spoken of his demons, but can't seem to get the upper hand on them.
It seems to me that whether he's here or not he is still managing to be the center of attention, not that there is anything wrong with that, but I have noticed that in a few areas there are people who just take over the discussion until there is nobody left to argue with. Is that winning the debate? or does that lead right back to one of my other questions about determination and stubborness. Does one really win if all opposing views give up and leave?
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