I do know lots of people on the forums one doesn't agree with, but if they cross lines, a 3 day ban suffices. (besides, u avoid them!)
However, lately, HT (Health Tips) was banned permanently from the forums. Since then, i see him making a lot of effort to write hubs, write as who he is i.e. 'Art', and generally staying cool....don't u think it's too harsh to ban anyone PERMANENTLY here?
not trying to create 'drama'...just genuinely concerned!
Who is HT?
lol...Heatlh Tips! ( see that's what a permanent ban does to u....no one knows u anymore!)
Healthtip, Badcompany99, badco, badcompany77, cabingirl, cabingirl., pirategirl, redneckman... the list goes on.
He's been banned from the forum a few times. When he's not being banned he's throwing temper tantrums, threatens to leave, says he's giving up the sockpuppet shows but then comes back with new ones... the drama goes on.
I thought being banned agreed with him. He got to actually publish hubs instead of making snipey remarks or gay slurs about me.
I see your point, and I do realize that it was all getting a bit over the top. But then, i have seen worst stuff going on in some of religious forums, and not to mention names, some even posting the vilest of comments here and getting away with it. Surely, if someone makes a genuine effort to improve, they should be given a chance. besides, rules here shouldn't be as inflexible as...well, real life!
You've been here 3 months. The game playing and apologies and broken promises have been going on a lot longer than that.
Like life there is a time when someone says enough is enough. That someone is HubPages HQ.
ever notice the new forum attention getters?? they're never really gone.
yeah!! atleast, whatever Art wrote, had some taste to it, these ones are just a persistent eyesore!
ouch, for real, what could have been that severe to ban someone permanently, and a doctor no less! :
What was he banned for?
What do you mean he was banned from HP?
Are you sure it wasn't just from forums?
yes, the forums only. but what concerns me is that what is so serious that it incurs a permanent ban from the forums? in anyone's case actually....
I was never usually involved in the drama surrounding badco.
I guess one too many temp bans will get you banned permanently.
What's happening, dudes and dudesses.
I don't come here for ages, and the first thing I see is that badco had been banned.
yawn. Same old, same old.
anyway, hi there - to anyone who remembers me :-)
hey, eric..how can anyone forget you! like it or not, u have become associated with badco now!!!
Eric & Eric... G'ello mate!
How's it going? You take care... both of you
Glad to see you back.
You are remembered fondly, Mr. Graudins. My feelings toward you have changed dramatically during the time you were absent. Welcome back!
am in agreement w/darkside on this. somewhere in the mix you throw in discipline. if a child keeps breaking established rules, one has to adapt by finding other measures. i've only been here four months, yet the drama queen act was so very tiring, even during that short time.
the game of mental manipulation is a serious one and should not be taken lightly. it's unfortunate that so many fell for the act.
I realize I'm still new here, but from what I've seen so far, (and at the cost of repeating myself), I still think there are people here with much lesser to contribute to hub pages and yet getting away with nasty forum posts on a regular basis.
In Art's case, I think he just offended the wrong people (or rather the 'right' ones) and hence was permanently banned, where so many others go unnoticed.
I'm sorry...but I just don't believe in such hard and 'final' rules when it comes to someone (anyone) making a genuine effort to do better.
hi myownworld, good day to you, I didnt know that Mr. Health Tip was banned forever?
I'm very sorry to hear that HT has gone and blotted his copy book again. I really did think he'd turned over a new leaf.
I think Darkside is a bit too hard on him, but on the other hand, he has been banned several times and come back promising to behave - there's such a thing as stepping over the line once too often, and I can only assume he's done that.
I see what your saying, but nothing is preventing him from getting yet another profile, if he wanted to be in the forums. Its not all that final, really. He is still able to be on hubpages, we can all chat via his hubs, and he does have an email address. He has "left" the forums and hubpages, of his own accord, soooooooo many times, Im sure he's fine. It may seem one sided, but I haven't been here or known enough hubbers to be sure, perhaps others have been banned as well. I agree, its not the same without him.
Was it just HT or all of his alter egos too? Maybe he will turn up in another form. He always did before.
Pretty sure they have the technical skills to ban an IP address.
I, for one, am surprised that it took so long.
I don't think it's ever necessary to ban anyone. The community of posters could easily police problems by ignoring those only here for attention or to formulate problems and discontent.
But, it is "their" forum so "they" can do whatever "they" like.
trust u to get the point exactly!
besides, if there are rules, then they should be the same for all.....!
I agree with you. And when those people have as many suspensions and warnings as BadCo they can get a permanent ban from the forums too.
sorry DS, I just can't make myself to understand the idea of a 'permanent' ban for posts here, esp. when someone is trying hard not to repeat mistakes, failing yes, but trying nevertheless!
how do you know its permanent? it is slow around here these days....
Not sure where you get that "is trying hard not to repeat mistakes" because all I saw was repeats of the same behaviour again and again.
Permanent forum bans are nothing new. I know of at least one hubber who was banned from the forum, given a second chance, and blew it. BadCo has had more chances than this person.
Moderators never enforce the TOS equally. They are people, with their own likes, dislikes, opinions, and thoughts. They often tend to single out someone they may find distasteful even if the community does not. I guess it's something we all have to live with.
yes, I know....hell, we've successfully managed to turn 'cyber' space into something as boring and restrictive as real life!!! now that's what I call real 'art' ! (something even he couldn't match!)
(lol @ T)
BC/HT would turn against anybody who crossed him with the spite and aggression of a spoilt child. But by the same token he could be very funny and was supportive and encouraging of new hubbers.
Very much a Jekyll & Hyde character.
One thing I've noticed though (and not necessarily because of the loss of BC) is that the forums are becoming incredibly dull. Anything with even a sniff of fun about it soon becomes 'closed to reply'.
Censored like the naughty children we are.
Badcompany99 was my first fan, and that was from the forums, before I published my first hub. He has since read and commented on many of my hubs. As Mrvoodoo said, he is very supportive of new hubbers, and I think many veteran hubbers as well. I hope he continues to write his hubs and support others. He has spoken of his demons, but can't seem to get the upper hand on them.
It seems to me that whether he's here or not he is still managing to be the center of attention, not that there is anything wrong with that, but I have noticed that in a few areas there are people who just take over the discussion until there is nobody left to argue with. Is that winning the debate? or does that lead right back to one of my other questions about determination and stubborness. Does one really win if all opposing views give up and leave?
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