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I've decided to do something that will alter my life forever.

  1. Ivan Hernandez profile image91
    Ivan Hernandezposted 7 weeks ago

    Hello, Hubbers. This is Ivan Hernandez. Recently, the FBI have been probing me because of my comments about Trump (and other things). So, 2 days from now, I am pulling the switch from HubPages. I am permanently rescinding my membership from Hubpages. The Trump situation has gotten out of control. School shootings and everything. Trump is growing worse and worse. I'm quitting HubPages Permanently. So long, fellow newbies and old-timers, especially you, theraggededge.

    1. Coffeequeeen profile image84
      Coffeequeeenposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Sorry to hear that Ivan.  I hope you have a change of heart as I enjoy reading your articles.

    2. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Bye, Erick. You can get in touch any time. xxx

    3. robhampton profile image98
      robhamptonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Seems strange. Why would the FBI be probing you about your opinions of Donald Trump? It's called freedom of speech. I didn't read all of your articles, but unless you suggested killing him, you can pretty much say whatever the hell you want. Did they call you or knock on your door?

      1. Marketing Merit profile image96
        Marketing Meritposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        My sentiments also. I would imagine the FBI have better things to do.

        What did interest me though, was Erick's comment about Trump and "other things."

        There are far more vociferous articles about Trump published on the web, so can't imagine it's that. You sure you've not been searching for info on ISIS membership or how to make a bomb Erick? That's far more likely to raise a red flag than anything you've published here.

    4. Jeremy Gill profile image97
      Jeremy Gillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Quick tip: unless you have a good reason not to, leave your articles published to keep getting views and earning.

      Best of luck in all endeavors.

    5. jackclee lm profile image82
      jackclee lmposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Ivan, your TDS has affected your thinking.
      There is no need for such drastic action. If you are harrassed because of your views, it is against our Constitution and the first amendment. I would defend your rights any day. You should stand up for your beliefs.

    6. faith-hope-love profile image80
      faith-hope-loveposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Ivan I have made some derogatory comments on Pres. Trump.  But and I say this emphatically will not go for any form of retreat for any action he may take. If you go into it social media you will find comments about him and a lot of them derogatory from all over the world. Mr trump has not won many friends from around the world since his election and may well have lost a few.  I only hope that he has not done any lasting damage to U S relations with other friendly countries and peoples around the world.  I do beg you to rethink your position and if they are harrassing you then document each incident but hold strong. You do have and will have my Support..  Do not let a sense of insecurity scare you. When I get these Bouts I think on the last words of Jesus "Into Your Hands I commend my Spirit". Remember when good men hide and keep Quiet then Wrong will succeed.  Evil is supreme only when Good Hides it's Face. If you stop then we will all be poorer because of that.   God Bless you and keep you in the fold of his Arms.

    7. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Unless you have been making threats against his life, sorry, that doesn't equate.

      Myself, and millions of others, both in America and around the world, have called him every name under the sun, rediculed the narcisstic lame-brain, etc. Nobody is investigating us.

    8. liesl5858 profile image89
      liesl5858posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I am sorry you are leaving us. Good luck whatever you do next.

    9. lovetherain profile image81
      lovetherainposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Too bad you are leaving. maybe you will have a change of heart.

    10. poppyr profile image99
      poppyrposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Are you sure it's the FBI and nort 4chan trolling or something? It sounds like something 4chan would do.

  2. Lew Marcrum profile image96
    Lew Marcrumposted 7 weeks ago

    Yes, how do you know the FBI is investigating you?  They normally don't send an email announcing it.  In my lifetime I've been investigated by both the FBI and INTERPOL, but I knew nothing about it until they called me for an interview AFTER it was all done. 

    I read some of your articles, and this is my take:  you have a good command of English, and an engaging style.  You can be a good writer, but your "greatest writer in the world" statement is a bit over the top.  You also claim to be a world-class IT tech.  Why aren't you doing something with your self-proclaimed superior intelligence and skills rather than ranting about politics?  If it's attention you're after, you will find it easy to stir the masses.  If you really want to change things, you need a good effective plan, and that usually involves getting into politics yourself.

    The things wrong in DC are not the fault of Trump, nor any other one president.  The main problem is the Congress stuffed to the gills with greedy, power-hungry leeches on a de facto lifelong gravy train. 

    The US was formed as a Republic, never a Democracy, but if you sincerely believe it will devolve into a dictatorship within six years, then you can either change it or leave.  You still have that right unless you owe federal debts or have a criminal record.  Honduras could always use the greatest IT tech in the world, and we share a border with Nicaragua so you could cross the border at Las Manos on weekends to see how dictatorships really work.  Daniel Ortega would welcome your visit. 

    Besides, Mel Zelaya could always use another Libre bomb-throwing anarchist.

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      A republic simply means that it isn't a monarchy. Certainly, it has never been a democracy. The Electoral College would suggest it is a plutocracy, and the state capture by business would suggest it is an oligarchy.

      That said, what was the style of government meant to be?

      1. Jean Bakula profile image98
        Jean Bakulaposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        A Democratic Republic.

  3. NateB11 profile image93
    NateB11posted 7 weeks ago

    Here's what I think you should do: Write ten more articles, but make them all pro-Trump. Wait ten days to see the response from the Administration and the FBI. If Trump announces he's stopped all efforts to sabotage you, you can continue to write on Hubpages.

    If he does not respond at all, he is testing you and you should write ten more pro-Trump articles.

  4. Lew Marcrum profile image96
    Lew Marcrumposted 7 weeks ago

    Careful, NateB11, someone may take you serious.  LOL

    1. NateB11 profile image93
      NateB11posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Lol

    2. TessSchlesinger profile image94
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Take you seriousLY.

  5. Randy Godwin profile image93
    Randy Godwinposted 7 weeks ago

    Just a bit dramatic., don't you think?   tongue

    1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      +1

    2. Jana Louise Smit profile image97
      Jana Louise Smitposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Agreed.

  6. Gregory DeVictor profile image96
    Gregory DeVictorposted 7 weeks ago

    Ivan, make haste slowly about your decision to leave HubPages. Don’t do something that you will regret later on.

  7. threekeys profile image81
    threekeysposted 7 weeks ago

    Ivan, I thought that idea that was given to you about seeing how Trump is making it work and write about that here at hubpages. It will be also a good exercise in trying to see from a different perspective. A challenge but...could produce some interesting results. Try.

  8. Lew Marcrum profile image96
    Lew Marcrumposted 7 weeks ago

    TessSchlesinger, I stand corrected!  My "hillbillyosity" is showing...  smile

  9. Joshua Crowder profile image92
    Joshua Crowderposted 7 weeks ago

    Bye Felicia.

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Sounds too good to be true. Bet he's begging for attention in these forums again in about 4 days.

  10. Lew Marcrum profile image96
    Lew Marcrumposted 7 weeks ago

    Does anyone think the FBI really cares if someone badmouths Trump?  Unless there's a credible death threat against the president, they are not going to waste their time peering through Mommy's basement windows to watch some kid playing video games.  The "and other things" comment in the original post, however, is troubling.  I don't know what the other things are, but if they such that would draw the attention of the CIA, then this young man has a problem.  All the CIA investigators I met personally while working with the NSA during my short military career were not nice people.

    1. Jana Louise Smit profile image97
      Jana Louise Smitposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      You sound very interesting. smile

  11. marcuscaine profile image95
    marcuscaineposted 7 weeks ago

    Bye

  12. Jessie L Watson profile image95
    Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks ago

    Do you regret posting this yet?

  13. Chriswillman90 profile image96
    Chriswillman90posted 7 weeks ago

    Some of the responses mocking him are quite sad given his circumstances.

    Whether it's a ploy to get attention or not I hope he doesn't delete his articles and comes back to writing because he's actually a good writer.

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Deleted

      1. theraggededge profile image98
        theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Unnecessary. For someone who said that seeing posts from the OP is irritating, you sure do like to chime in. Remember, the kid's autistic, so perhaps you should try to restrain yourself.

        Pick on someone who can stand up to you.

        1. EricDockett profile image99
          EricDockettposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          +1,000,000

          Perhaps some people should read Ivan's bio and spend a few minutes really thinking about his situation before posting nasty comments.

          1. artsofthetimes profile image94
            artsofthetimesposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            +1

        2. ChristinS profile image95
          ChristinSposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          This right here.  When I find something I don't like or want to read I am mature enough to ignore it.  All these sanctimonious people mocking this autistic young man is disgusting. Of course, that's kind of our society these days isn't it? We've become incapable of compassion and so self-absorbed that we feel entitled to say whatever is on our mind no matter who it might harm.  Pitiful.

          1. robhampton profile image98
            robhamptonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            I agree. Although I posted a comment early on the thread it certainly was not uncompassionate. Here's my problem with this though. If someone is smart enough to write Trump bashing articles (that we're good enough to be featured) then I can guess he's smart enough to know what's going on here. His account is still active so he hasn't "altered his life" yet. He hasn't responded to a single thing that has been posted on here. Create a stir on here then sit back and absorb the attention. That's just my opinion and I could be very, very wrong. For all we know maybe he just took a break from HP and the internet for a few days. As someone pointed out, this not a psychology forum. Yes, some of the comments were insensitive and unnecessary.

            1. Marketing Merit profile image96
              Marketing Meritposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              If my memory serves me right, I don't believe Erick has 24/7 access to the internet. It's a shame his twitter account has been deleted as I watched a video of him there and that changed my view of him completely.

              This may not be a psychology forum but I believe Erick's thread has just as much right to be here as all of the word games and daily quote threads that others seem so fond of.

              I doubt any of us would consider making derogatory remarks about someone with a disability in a real life face-to-face situation and it is equally unacceptable here.

              Yes, he may be an extremely intelligent young man, but that does not mean that he is always able to express his thoughts as such.

              Also, has anyone stopped to think that, as a vulnerable young adult, he may actually be the victim of an elaborate hoax?

              1. theraggededge profile image98
                theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                You are my hero smile Thank you for that.

                Erick is a sweet guy, and yes, he is intelligent, but he has difficulty processing emotions and cannot understand the nuances of jokes and sarcasm. He takes everything at face value.

                Those who have jeered and mocked him on this thread should hang their heads in shame.

                1. Dean Traylor profile image94
                  Dean Traylorposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Considering what my "day job" is, I picked up on this, as well. Unfortunately, the only time I really looked at what people were saying was when I saw this post and did some investigating to find out what this was all about. I commend him for putting himself out there and I hope he reconsiders. I believe he has a lot of say about his life and what he must go through on a daily basis.
                  It is unfortunate, that there's a lot of people who don't understand (or don't want to understand) the difficulties he has.

              2. robhampton profile image98
                robhamptonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Great point and well received. (I feel kinda bad now, and maybe I should) I'm really not a heartless prick, it's just what I saw. I hope Erick finds his calling and some needed answers for his life and prospers.

            2. NateB11 profile image93
              NateB11posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              Exactly. And it's condescending to coddle him.

          2. Jessie L Watson profile image95
            Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            @ChristinS, in order to have a discussion, you have to risk offending people.

    2. Jessie L Watson profile image95
      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      First, its no one's obligation to read profiles before responding to forums. Secundo, quit talking about Autistic people as if they're unable to formulate intelligible sentences by default. The internet is where Autistic people thrive. They can speak plainly without worrying about nuances or body language. They can also calculate things that the normal person can't. So stop accusing people of battering a "disabled" person.

      I like Ivan, he's a competent young man who's learning a lot right now. But, BUT! If you're gonna talk about politics, you're gonna put your big boy pants on. His views on Trump aren't a consequence of his Autism. It's your run of the mill anti-trump jargon with a little conspiracy to top it off. I know well developed, grown men/women who say dumber things on a regular basis. Most of which are people who believe in "safe spaces". So while you're all patting yourself on the back for fending off the "bullies", I'll be standing over here in the real world.

      If you happen to see this, Ivan, don't let these oedipal mothers convince you that you are a victim of anything.

      1. Natalie Frank profile image95
        Natalie Frankposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Sorry to hear it Ivan.  I also enjoy reading your articles and hope you change your mind about leaving.

      2. faith-hope-love profile image80
        faith-hope-loveposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Ivan; Jessie has a lot of good points that I can support.  I am with him in his urging. As Winston  Churchill said in his speech to Eton "Never! Never! NEVER GIVE UP!".   He was right. Only we ourselves can make ourselves a Victim. So don't be a Victim. Stay Strong. Keep writing for Hub Pages and do Branch out elsewhere.

      3. theraggededge profile image98
        theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        No-one said or implied that Erick (that's his first name, by the way) is unable to formulate an intelligible sentence. No-one said anyone was 'battering'. No-one is encouraging him to be a victim. In fact, since he's been here, many of us have encouraged him to throw off that label and call himself a writer instead.

        However, snide, sarcastic comments such as the ones made by Wesman Todd Shaw are uncalled for. It's not the first time; he's had a 'thing' about Erick ever since he started writing here. Before you joined.

        And who, exactly, are you calling an 'oedipal mother'? Is it a good idea to insult forum members in that manner?

        1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
          Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          How is he going to throw off the label if you and others are going to point out that he's autistic? It's clear as day that a few people came to speak on his behalf. You quote "Remember, the kid's autistic, so perhaps you should try to restrain yourself." This takes away any freedom he has to combat his enemies as an equal participant in the discussion. This is not encouragement to be a formidable interlocutor. This is babying to n'th degree.

          And as far as the oedipal comment, if the shoe fits then wear it because apparently, you're the one with whom it struck a nerve.

          Is it a good idea to insult forum members? Is that some sort of threat from the Hubpages mafia?

          1. theraggededge profile image98
            theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            IF you bothered to read his profile, you'll see that his autism is a badge he wears proudly. He writes articles based on his experience of being autistic.

            He won't engage as an equal participant. He can't. You have no idea of his coping mechanisms. Every time he has a HubPages crisis he has a real life meltdown. Not only that, he accesses the site via his Playstation, so it's difficult for him to participate in discussions of any kind.

            I asked who you were name-calling/labeling. If you see a threat then that might be a sign of paranoia. Can't you answer a straight question?

            Do you think it's okay to insult other forum members? Still can't answer a straight question?

            1. faith-hope-love profile image80
              faith-hope-loveposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              This is to theraggededge.  I am with you. Some folks think that by calling other people down. By being derogatory to other s is a good way to make themselves appear in a good light. Unfortunately, for them it most always ends up doing the opposite. In 90% of cases it is best to ignore the childishness of the snide remarks. Ask yourself will this person benefit from my getting involved in a slanging match. Will I.  So it is better to ignore their plays and keep the encouragement strong. Choose your time with care as to when to attack and as to when to retreat or stand firm .

              1. theraggededge profile image98
                theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Thank you, you are right of course smile

                We'll leave them alone to continue the immature justification for their poor behaviour. At least one or two were gracious and courageous enough to apologise.

                1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
                  Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  So glad the world has you to be a referee for good and bad behavior.

                  Best way to win is not to play.

      4. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13929925.jpg

      5. NateB11 profile image93
        NateB11posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Agree. It's funny how people who are defending him seem to be unconsciously looking down on him at the same time. It's all very ironic. And, yes, they're trying to make themselves look good. Gives them big ego satisfaction to feel righteous. Kind of hilarious, like an unintentional comedy skit.

        1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
          Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          I think you did a great job there describing a significant percentage of the persons who call themselves 'liberals' these days. Lots of verbal grandstanding, or as the cool kids say, 'virtue signaling.'

          1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
            Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            That's exactly what it is. Any excuse to take the moral high ground.

            1. promisem profile image97
              promisemposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              Please clarify. Is the moral high ground a bad thing?

          2. theraggededge profile image98
            theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            If you think virtue signalling is standing up to a bunch of man-babies who think picking on someone who can't retaliate is big and clever, then I'll happily wear that label.

            1. TessSchlesinger profile image94
              TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              +1  +1   +1  +1

              1. NateB11 profile image93
                NateB11posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Then comes the bigotry masked in righteousness. It's all so predictable.

                1. faith-hope-love profile image80
                  faith-hope-loveposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  NateB11. I did give you some credit but realize that  you are akin to these worthless comments that detract rather than contribute any good. Show some consideration and give some encouragement.

                  1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
                    Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                    You, you, you, statements. They're unavoidable. How much are you contributing exactly? Don't you feel a little hypocritical? You think you're gonna change this man? Or do you just like to think your version of discussion is morally superior to others? That's what we're talking about.

                  2. TessSchlesinger profile image94
                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                    I'm curious about your comment to 'give some encouragement.' Not specifically to this post, but more in a general way.

                    One of the things I really loathe is when people 'give me some encouragement.' I don't need 'encouragement. I have buckets of courage.

                    What I (and millions of others) don't have is practical assistance. With the practical assistance, solutions are possible. Without the practical assistance, moving forward is not possible. So the 'encouragement' is really mockery, in a way.

                    Let me give you an example.

                    My ability to write well on hp is due to the many people who , llike Marisa Wright, repeatedly showed me how to improve my work. It had nothing to do with encoruagement. It had to do with shared expertise. That has moved me forward. Encouragement has always left me bemused. What on earth is one supposed to do with it?

                    1. theraggededge profile image98
                      theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      Well, my encouragement to Erick went along the lines of "Stop whinging and go write something." He's pretty used to it now.

                      Encouragement can take many forms, such as practical help, as you mention. Or letting the person know you are supporting them. Or even refusing to join them in their moaning, as with Erick. Encouragement is basically being positive and helpful, while attempting to move someone forward in the direction they want to go.

                      Edit: My shy teenage daughter, who has difficulty making a phone call, yet can go sing solo on stage in front of an auditorium full of strangers, needs loads of encouragement. Once she has achieved each small milestone, that's another thing out of the way that won't bother her any more. Sometimes she needs a sympathetic approach, at other times I have to insist that she tackles the thing that she's convinced herself she can't do. So, yes, encouragement comes in different flavours.

            2. NateB11 profile image93
              NateB11posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              I totally agree. Some people would consider some of my views liberal, though I don't consider myself a liberal and lately many things have made me very open to libertarian views; and I've observed for decades the hypocrisy of the average liberal. I've been around it so long I can predict their every move. They're like robots.

              1. promisem profile image97
                promisemposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Independents in this country can say the same thing about both liberals and conservatives.

                Extremism on both sides is doing a lot of damage to the U.S.

              2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
                Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                I'm also more fond of libertarian ideas than others. The Libertarians lose me when they start acting like open borders are a good idea, however.

    3. psycheskinner profile image82
      psycheskinnerposted 7 weeks ago

      There are options other than ignoring or mocking.  IMHO gently challenging statements that are not well-grounded or proptortional to the situation is also a responsible reaction.

      1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
        Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        That's fair

    4. Gregory DeVictor profile image96
      Gregory DeVictorposted 7 weeks ago

      People with an inferiority complex or a perception of mediocrity frequently put others down others in order to bring them down to their perceived level of mediocrity. The root of this behavior is pride. (Pride is the mask that we make of our shortcomings.)

      1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
        Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        You're gonna get some +1's here pretty soon.

        Listen, there were a few on this thread who were just being plain nasty. But I find those who ride in on their "social justice" horse just as deplorable because its makes the person in question seem even more weak and unable. If I say something off the wall then I have to take responsibility for it.

        What if I disclosed on my profile that I have PSTD from my time in service? I don't need people coming to defend stupid things I say because of a certain medical status. No one can reasonably speak on anyone elses behalf. People just saw an opportunity to be the hero where it wasn't even necessary. It's cringeworthy. So, please spare us the "bullies are really just sad clowns inside" spiel. No ones a victim. Jesus..

        1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
          Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Furthermore, maybe the kid WAS trying to get some attention. That seems to be the extent to which some people were opposed to what he had to say. Is it really a put down to talk about the way things appear? Certainly looked that way to me. Alas, there will be variability among those who find that palpable or not. We really have to be honest about what constitutes harassment and abuse.

          1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
            Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            His forum posting style was heavily stepped in the ancient tradition of the dramatic. Sometimes it was seemingly daily as well. I'm not sure how I'm NOT supposed to be annoyed by such things, but then again, I'm not sure how it is I'm supposed to like football either.

            1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
              Jessie L Watsonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              I'm seriously not trying to burn bridges here but everything does seem like hyperbole anymore, yes. I'm just trying to keep things in perspective. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I have my hangups too. I'm overly analytical and callous.

              This thread is dead. Moving on with my life.

        2. Titia profile image96
          Titiaposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Don't compare apples with pears. Mind you I don't trivialize PSTD, it's severe enough, but to put it bluntly: PSTD is not something you're born with, but Autism is something you're born with and that 's a big difference.
          Nobody is playing the hero here. The fact that Erick can write about his likes or dislikes of certain politicians, doesn't mean he should also be able (as you stated) to know what's going on here. But that's the point, he can't because that's what Autism is. You should read a bit more about Autism.

          1. faith-hope-love profile image80
            faith-hope-loveposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            To Titia.  Well said and I hope that a few of those who made some of these comments take your advice. What they may learn will do them, Hopefully, some good.

    5. viking305 profile image96
      viking305posted 6 weeks ago

      Welcome back Ivan

      1. Ivan Hernandez profile image91
        Ivan Hernandezposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        Thank you.

     
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