A new Code of Conduct for the HubPages Forums?

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Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years ago
I'm thinking about putting together such a draft code of conduct. The basic idea is to make the forum rules more transparent and specific, which should make it easy for everyone to see what is allowed and what is prohibited.

It would be voluntary for people to sign up to it, of course - at least to begin with. If it gained traction, it might end up becoming official policy, who knows....

Does this idea have any merit? If it does, what would you like to see in it? If not, then why not?
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  Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Have you actually read the forum rules that exist now?
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have. I am not voicing any opinion for or against them, merely asking what people think.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it has merit. A total ban and spanking for all atheists and liberals, where do I sign?
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  SLAP! (walk away)
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ow! Hey who hit me?
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think HubPages already has it covered.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have been wondering whether the recent Clarification to the rules that management announced should become integrated into the official rules of conduct somehow. I could not find any such direct reference.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Did you ever think that there might not be a need for a direct reference?
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not everybody is aware of the Clarification, maybe. It should only be necessary to look one in place to see what the rules are.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's only necessary for those who like to be nic-picking every little or small detail.
  
  Either way, enjoy.
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  relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think this idea has any merit. The forum rules are specific and by signing up with the site, people must abide by them.
  
  I think the only problems with the forum rules are that people don't bother to read them and then gripe a lot when they don't follow them and there are repercussions.
  
  Making new rules that people can voluntarily agree too is inane.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I absolutely agree!
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, such a code could consist in - for example - that people declare that they will always respect the official rules, which they have read and understood. Is that insane?
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Relache said 'inane'
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  inane:
  –adjective
  1. lacking sense, significance, or ideas; silly: inane questions.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, and thanks for clarifying this.
  
  Well, such a code could consist in - for example - that people declare that they will always respect the official rules, which they have read and understood. Is that inane?
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When people go out of their way to try to control others by writing to administration they are looking for some type of reward. Please tell us why you wish to do this.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I do not agree with your characterization. If the Clarification was to become explicitly an integral part of the official forum rules, then I guess that would make it much easier for everyone to understand what the rules are. I cannot see why that should make anybody less free, only more informed.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Read what you wrote and look at your title above. Here's what you said.
  "I'm thinking about putting together such a draft code of conduct. The basic idea is to make the forum rules more transparent and specific, which should make it easy for everyone to see what is allowed and what is prohibited."
  
  From this and your title you want to create a NEW code of conduct to suit you.
  Again, please explain to us..we deserve to know what your reason really is.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have already stated my reasons, repeatedly. I have no other reason.
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  relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As I said before, by signing up for the site, they already have agreed to follow the rules that exist.
  
  How is rewriting or recreating rules going to people to read them and agree to them when they don't already do that now?
  
  That's why I think your idea is inane. It's not addressing the actual problem.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have been looking in vain to see whether the Clarification that management posted in a forum thread is formally linked with the official forum rules. If the Clarification is important, which supposedly it is, then at least the official rules should provide a link to it. Or even better incorporate it somehow. Otherwise, many people may not even know about its existence. That was primarily what I had in mind.
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  Rochelle Frankposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Inane? -- maybe not if it makes people think.
  However, I think it might be best if people were clear in their own minds about their own personal'code of conduct' and just decide which topics and threads they will avoid.
  
  The rules are pretty clear.. but a lot of people may want to remind themselves that whatever they say in the forums tends to live on. . . and on.
  
  If you wouldn't shout it on a mountaintop with all of the people you know and love, and all of your children, grandchildren and etc. listening in... bite your tongue, or fingers.
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  In other words,
  common sense
  
  my favorite kind.
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  yoshi97posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If it gets me a daily piping hot plate of nachos, I'm in for sure ... otherwise I'd have to see the product before any willingness to scribe my paws to it.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There's always room for making things better. If you fell like it, do it.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, that is encouraging to hear.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you thinking of putting together a draft of rules that already exist?
  I really don't see any point to that.
  Or are you thinking of putting together a draft of the existing rules in language that people actually understand?
  If that's it, I'm speechless, to say the very least.
  And as for 'It would be voluntary for people to sign up to it, of course - at least to begin with. If it gained traction, it might end up becoming official policy, who knows....', I really don't understand the mentality here.
  Or maybe I'm just confused ... as most others appear to be with regard to this.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  In my opinion, the Clarification management issued in a forum post should be embedded into the official forum rules. That would make it official policy for all to see. You cannot expect people to search the forum logs to find the Clarification on their own. If a sufficient number of people were to agree with me on this, it would be gaining traction, and if management agreed, then the policy would be clearer and a lot better than it is today.
  
  Personally, I find it more confusing if the important rules are spread among different places.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As I now understand, you feel the rules should be listed in one place, where everyone can see them. Okay.
  But what is this 'draft' about.
  Unless you're planning on making new rules, you don't need to 'draft' anything.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, I think it does no harm to write it down, just in case management gets busy with other things before they decide to list the rules in one place. Also, I would imagine that management's enthusiasm might depend upon how many people supported such a draft. So I would think it prudent to write it down.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Okay. But that's not 'drafting' a 'A new Code of Conduct for the HubPages Forums' as we were led to understand.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Management, in making their announcement of the Clarification, said that now It was part of their policy. But in my opinion, it does not carry the same weight as the official forum rules, which are the ones that anybody can see. Therefore, if the Clarification becomes embedded into - or linked from - the official forum rules, then that is a new code of conduct technically speaking. Also, I would be surprised if management in that connection would not have to look closer at the clarification, and maybe modify it. So it would be a bit different than today.
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  lmmartinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think this an excellent idea. In fact, all the rules, official and unofficial for all aspects of hubpages should be posted in one spot where everyone can access them.
  
  I for one would be happy to support any such endeavour.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Did you try this http://hubpages.com/faq/ ? And sorry unofficial rules can't be posted, because once posted they will become official.
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  lmmartinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Response to Misha
  
  Apparently, there are unofficial rules and yes I read the hubpages faqs, but find things do crop up that aren't listed there. Thanks for your response Misha. Haven't heard from you in quite a while. Where you been hiding your cheery face?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That may be true. However the title says NEW code of conduct, not clarification of the existing one. Some people like to get back at others once their feelings are hurt or they disagree with someone's views.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And look at how many postings there are by people who never bother to read the FAQ and those who ignore the grey box on the left when they post.
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  darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And then there's the unofficial FAQ.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My favorite
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  frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Deborah, the OP's intentions are not to change the rules, rather he intends to make the existing ones easier to understand. Now - that's his intention. No one said that he was rewriting the rule book and let's not forget that HP can accept or decline his offer.
  
  I'd imagine he is going to create something that leaves no room for confusion, as often happens when it comes to rules, laws and legalese.
  
  Don't forget how you were dealt with by some hubbers, when you kindly offered free readings a few weeks ago. At the time, I felt you were unduly mauled by a few individuals.
  
  Instead of us all paying lip service to the right to opinion and free speech, let's deliver instead - and withdraw judgement
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Pretty Froggy, do me favor and take a look at OP hubs, ok?
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  frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have read some Misha. I'm not saying his idea is wonderful, I'm saying 'let him/her get on with it'. Rewriting or adjusting (or whatever) the codes of conduct (anywhere) is not my cup of tea. I'm assuming it's something the OP enjoys doing. Besides which - that still doesn't mean anything will change
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As much as I adore you, I have to disagree with you. When someone attempts to control my life (or a part of it) I prefer to trim the attempt right where it starts, before it develops into something more serious. So no, I won't let them get on with it.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Froggy yes I was treated harshly but not once did I try to change things. If you look at the title "NEW CODE OF CONDUCT" it tells exactly what he had/has in mind. I always try to read between the lines. I do agree there are people who take their insults a little too far. Then there are some who are offended by everything.
  Judgment? I have not judged anyone. I can only go by his title.
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  frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Perhaps it should have read 'revised' then. Anyway - the decision to revamp, alter, adjust, renew etc etc will always remain the decision of HP, so I'm not going to lose sleep over it
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not losing sleep. He asked us for thoughts. I think he should be a hubber.
  Even his name shows, he has come in here because of reading the forums and wanted to change things from the start.
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  utuposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  URggg! Not more Rules we are over legislated already.
  Everyone understands them, a few, choose to break them end of story.
  Shall we maybe put them in the "Naughty Corner"
  There is NO NEED FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY!
  As for sleep loss, hey I'm snoring off right now.
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Mishaposted 13 years ago
Did you clear this with staff?
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, Misha, I have not discussed it with anyone. It would only be a draft, hopefully staff would participate in this discussion and maybe take over at some point.
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  pauldeedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We don't have any objection, but we aren't making any commitment to using what is produced either.
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am glad to hear this. I think whatever comes up, if anything, should be judged on its merits. If it can help, fine. If not, well then there is no point in going further.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I appreciate your thought behind this. I do not find the forums very enthralling at this point, but your ideas are good.
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  twuxedoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, I would second this, The Forums are becoming increasingly dull.
  Possibly Rules would add to this. When I first came on, I had a Chuckle or three, but apart from keeping up to date with the health (now improved of a Star Hubber) I haven't really found much. There does seem to be a Lobby Group that just wants more and more Rules.
  Perhaps they could have a separate Forum, where they could basically spend their obviously abundant free time, making up rules, which they could then, perhaps Voluntarily sign up to. Then spend every moment ensuring everyone adheres to them. All I can say is glad they aren't in my Circle of Friends.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Agree!
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  the current details of rules are crystal clear to me already.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Me too
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  twuxedoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  precisely!
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Deborah Sextonposted 13 years ago
So YOU want us restricted?
I'm against it. When people have to act like soldiers you lose them.
This is why they have the flag. THEY review and DECIDE, not the members.
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  twuxedoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds that way!
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Deborah Sextonposted 13 years ago
Members are important to the ranking of your hubs...
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B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 13 years ago
hmmm..interesting..

I do believe the code of conduct should be very boldly stated in one place for everyone but I do not believe ANYONE should be allowed to change the conduct code except for the administrators. Let them take care of the codes of conduct, it is their job and they seem to do a very good job of keeping the codes of conduct inline and fair for all users. Infact I think our moderators and administrators are some of the best on the web!
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You are making some very good points.
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  mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  hear! hear! B.C. - right on! why meddle with the existing rules? What is it YOU think needs changing, CyberLawyer?
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Please see my reply to Relache above.
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wyanjenposted 13 years ago
If I'm understanding this:

You are saying that a clarification of the official rules should become part of the official rules?
And then we should all declare to follow the official rules?

Redundant and inane.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I won't argue about inane as this is a new word for me, but redundant definitely. Redundancy has its place in technology, but in human relations it usually causes unnecessary tension.
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I'll agree that it does.
  I'm feeling unnecessarily tense about this.
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  twuxedoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Actually I am a bit tearful, Yes Tearful and FEARFUL!
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  Neil Sperlingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL - Rules and lawyers go hand in hand. Soon as a rule is made and easy to understand there needs to be a book written about it!
  
  Take my comment lightly - it is intended to bring a smile!
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  twuxedoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago
I think there should be rules about discussing changing rules?
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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Hauntyposted 13 years ago
I think everyone should know the fact that there exists a circle of hubbers who act against every knew idea that pops up in peoples' heads or put down every hubber who asks an honest question, just because it is in their power.

Some act as the big hubpages veterans, the know-it-alls, who take pride in their imagined respectfulness, something that is sustained by another circle of hubbers with a slave mentality.

Some are simple clowns who take great pleasure in mocking and teasing others just because they themselves don't have faith in themselves that they could actually accomplish something worthwhile if they 'manned up'.

For others, it's their default mental state to be againg, question, or criticize everything.

So a list of these people should be composed and made public as a warning to those who are either knew or simply didn't have the time or inclination to really get to know these people: 'Warning hubbers! Please, know that whatever you say I will use against you and twist it and turn it to make a mockery of you!'

So don't get discouraged. The only thing that counts in this case is what the hub-team answered. If you are a professional then you shouldn't care about what people who have no experience in legal issues say.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Who would that be?
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  lol, Misha, Don't ask. It was really annoying that one of the first comments to this thread was a question if he discussed this with the hub-team. Of course not. It's only a forum thread that asks a harmless question. And you know that.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Believe it or not my question was absolutely honest. And there is no coincidence that Paul chimed in with clarification - this does not happen every day. I can't help it if you don't understand why - but somehow I think you do.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You know, I believe it. All I wanted to say was that not everything is perfect around here, so if someone wants to make it better, we could leave it up to him to try. Paul is a smart guy, he does what he does with a purpose. And that's an indication that what I'm saying is true. At least that"s how I see it.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL Pacal, seriously, do you think any veteran would let some dark horse control freak to dictate the "Code Of Conduct"? Gimme a break. Some noobs will pick the bait, but veterans will ensure this will not be a big number.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sure. But that says you don't have much faith in people. People are people. They have their interests, they have their things. If someone wanted to do a new code of conduct, why not let him. They can cause no harm, because the decision is with hubpages.
  
  I don't want to disappoint you, but my real name is not Pacal.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know it is not, you did not disappoint me. Somehow I like it better than Haunty though, but I can stop using it if you prefer.
  
  And I do have faith in people, that's one of the reasons I asked my first question. If I knew this was authorized by HP, I would take it differently. Otherwise I am just having fun, and invite you to do the same
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, I'm having fun, Misha. This makes time I want to go by go by. It's 05:08 here and I'm waiting for the morning to come.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, they shouldn't and there isn't any SANE reason to point out other hubbers, simply because of their actions. The forums are a public domain, based on HubPages. These people have just as much right to their own opinions as everyone else does.
  
  There is NO slave mentality. Not unless you feel like you're being treated like a slave for some odd reason.
  
  Yes, there are some people who mock others. Then again, there is also a bunch of hubbers, who will jump into a thread, just to simply HI-JACK the thread and take it off topic. What do you suppose is done with them?
  
  Sorry, if you feel like you're being criticized. There are lots of people who are criticized, but simply go about their business.
  
  No, there shouldn't be a list. Unless YOU want to be at the top of the list yourself. Therefore, we know who to start with first?
  
  Legal issues? There are no legal issues or even laws being broken, by one person voicing their opinion over the other. There is already enough restrictions and clarity about the rules.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Cagsil, you have a strong opinion of everything. I doesn1t count because it won't alter the truth, will it.
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flread45posted 13 years ago
The rules are every where you look.Just start a new hub and read the rules.
Just sign up for hubpages and read the rules!!
They are well recited and adhered to by most.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
Cag's, laugh buddy
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Deborah Sextonposted 13 years ago
He wants to make a draft that consists of a NEW code of conduct. Just as the title clearly says.
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
I think we need more rules like we need more holes in our head...lol
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, the more rules there are, the more will be broken ...
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
kill the thread. irrelevant topic.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're right there ... Inane.
  
  I'm going to bed.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hijacking is a better option
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  See what I mean. j/k Misha
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOl No, I must be slow today
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, there is that. I just didn't want to mention it.
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tantrumposted 13 years ago
ABSURD
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Bang on
  
  Hi Tantrum u ok?
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi there !! How are you doing ??
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago

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A Texanposted 13 years ago
Rules, we dont need no stinking rules.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  hubbers require no rules or restrictions. We are famous for gods sake.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Its probably a good idea to restrict me every once in a while.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  in restraints i say.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
Hijacking commencing. All systems a go.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
tic tac anyone?
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
LMAO
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wyanjenposted 13 years ago
How are you holding up Kimberly?
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks love, I'm just trying to keep my mind occupied, what better way than hijacking a confusing thread.
  Appreciate you asking
  xo
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Keep smiling kiddo.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I will my friend
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blue dogposted 13 years ago
as you can see, cyber, the implosion is well under way.
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
http://hubpages.com/help/forum_rules

This link is highlighted in blue right next to the box I am currently typing in, it is labeled "Forum Rules" why exactly does this need to be changed? I am perfectly happy with this little blue link telling me what I should or should not do in the forum. I don't need a 10,000 page bill from congress about what I can or can't do here.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just in case, you have noticed, this thread has been HI-JACKED.....that means, no longer on topic.
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Then it's all there after all.
  
  Then what's this all about, anyway? What have we been discussing?
  
  I'm definitely going to bed now.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  sleep well
  dream in color
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  camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Kimberly. Nice to see you again!
  
  And thank you, too, Cagsil (if you meant me ...)
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Frankly, I'm still not sure myself.
  I'm getting hung up on the "voluntary" aspect in the OP...
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  (sorry about the confusing crap last night)
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No problem, you have the need to talk, find me.
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  that happens from time to time, it's no fun. kinda scary, and a giant pain in the ass. Feel free to reach through the monitor and smack me if it happens again.
  'nuff said
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Rochelle Frankposted 13 years ago
He can't help himself, he's a lawyer. We can overlook that.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
Hi Jacking is an illegal offense, this is worth jail time for me.
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
Good night. Sleep well and be safe.
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
Hijacked? oh my isn't that against the rule in chapter 44 article 132 section.... oh hell never mind.

Hey lyrics I'll have that tic tac now
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  coming right up
  here you go
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
ewww tic tac and coffee bad combination, next time I ask for one make sure I am not drinking coffee :3)~
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  tic tac is for AFTER you drink the coffee
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
I'm in for a glass of rum and a banana, that's it.
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
since we are on the topic of being off topic, I am looking for an idea for my 30th hub, any suggestions?
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Herpes?
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  bad mental vision now Tex, no more, can't take it
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Better than what I was gonna say.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  why gorillas eat their own vomit by regurgitating constantly. Good Hub
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And thats a better vision?
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  option2 - why lesbians wear white with red accessories.
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  My kind of topic! We are talking lipstick lesbians right?
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  the really glossy kind that's flavored
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Write it and of course add pictures!
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  with the video mate
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Even better
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I got more but I'll get banned and then I'll be bored.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hell with it just put up pictures!!
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I thought that was cows that did that.
  moooo
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Artistic peeing on the snow? With photos of your achievements?
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  good one - big score, well done
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  wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is this going to turn into a conversation about how long your name is?
  Do you write your name in script, when you are writing in the snow?
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's nasty.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But cool.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why? I did not say the pictures of the drawing tool.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The official unofficial voluntarily accepted rules of conduct and behaviour that may or may not be accepted by a various assortment of random hubbers.
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  Rochelle Frankposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is it acceptable to call hubbers "random"?
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'll find out I guess/
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  why threads get hijacked and the reasons
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
lol, i prefer to take the same stance on writing that i do in life when it comes to STD's AVOID THEM AT ALL COST
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  Rochelle Frankposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You can get STDs from writing? Uh oh, now I'm going outside of my personal code.
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
how about lesbian gorillas vomiting on each other because they got herpes ?
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A Texanposted 13 years ago
Where is Ron Montgomery and his porn?
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  resting.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I guess it takes a lot out of a feller.
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  poor soul.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
Are we off topic?
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
did this thread even have a topic? lol
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it did, before you disrespectfully hi-jacked it.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
The topic is qualifications and talent potential to be in porn.
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  Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I can't explain my qualifications or potential, I can however show you
  
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  ah, come on, play fair
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
anyone care to elaborate on why big black rooster weather is in the top 10 google searches for the last 30 days?

LOL
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
Okay, maybe we should give back the thread. Damage done.

Everyone DELETE their posts......
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Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago
sorry it is top 10 rising searches
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
Everyone repeat their posts
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
IF everyone deletes their posts.....then there will be no responses and it will instantly fade to the bottom of the pile, just like some of the other useless threads already gone.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You mean like this one: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/32525 ?
  You never made a response. Should I be surprised?
  
  No I'm not.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And, you're point is what exactly? That I decided not to participate in a forum thread. Cool. I'm impressed you found one.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You can be, Cagsil. With 14583 posts in 4 months (130 posts every day - on average), I am impressed you didn't find a post with a worthy cause. Or did you have no guts to hi-jack it? Come on, say something but don't forget to type many many s
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, I went too far. I know it's all about having fun.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I wasn't offended, if that's what you think.
  
  My biggest problem is that I don't trust 95% of the organizations who claim to help people with the money they receive and yet, do very little. Hence, why I started Cagsil and it's basis for helping others.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't really know about Cagsil, but I'm with you. Unfortunately, I find it hard to trust others too. I usually do and get burned.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There was a survey done in 2000(I'm pretty sure it was in 2000), but the TOP 200 U.S. Based non-profit and charitable organizations.......NONE of which fell within the guidelines of the federal requirement of 5% minimum requirement of total revenue generated, was spent on what was claim.
  
  The highest I do believe, if I remember correctly, was 1%.
  
  Yeah, I have a reason not to trust them....and some people wonder why enough isn't being done to help those here, but want help outside the country? Go figure, huh.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So this means you are US too. I thought you were French or something. But now I'm realizing you are US, which is said on your profile anyway.
  
  What I think is if it's about money I will give it to someone that I'm certain will use it for what they say they would. If it's something else, like answering some questions or contributing some other way, I will probably do it without much thinking. I don't know if this is good or not. All I know it might help without costing me. So probably I'm not being deceived.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Always go into any endeavor with eyes open.
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  offshorebankerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  yeah, unfortunately, if you don't want to 'do-it-yourself' you have to go on faith....and that's usually a recipe for disaster.
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A Texanposted 13 years ago
I'm outa here, too many rules!
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  lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Texan, your a real bad boy,but baby your a real good man.
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  Some girls like boys like me and some girls don't!
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
brb
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
Me too.....this thread is too restrictive.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
later.
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wyanjenposted 13 years ago

hey.
you guys hijacked the thread from the first hijack.

It is a nice conversation makes me smile

Haunty, I knew you a little as PV and I always thought you are a sweet person.

On that note, I'm leaving the thread.

see you guys tomorrow.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good night Jen, sleep well and be safe.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, Jen. See ya.
  I'm going to hit the sack too.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good night Haunty. Sleep well and be safe.
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
Moving on. cheers everyone.
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theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago
This sounds a bit like European burocracy, in Europe the European Parliment spends much of its time and energy inventing rules for rules, now you can not buy a funny looking carrot anymore, it must be 10 cm long and straight, no more fun with silly carrots, I am sick of people trying to control cyber space, smells like something from the second world war, people need to start growing up....this is a place for big people with open minds not parochial control freaks........while one understands the need for moderation....control freaks are pushing people off the net and this is not good....well unless your happy reading your own dribble.........
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lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago
hijacking once again.

tic tac anyone?
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Pearldiverposted 13 years ago
Will such a document (in its unhyjacked form) include a help guide?

You know: What to do when you have been Banned under Duress

Or: How to Take a Troll out of play, In 3 Steps without suffering pergotory?

Or: How to Protect your point of view, when attacked by a Moose in the Forums?

I don't believe any of these issues are dealt with within the existing rules.
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think it may be better if this knowledge came from the field of experience rather than from hp. I'd be glad to read some of the hubbers on this.
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frogdroppingposted 13 years ago
PD I think you need to borrow my invisibility cloak

Rules are always open to personal interpretation or in some cases, abject ignorance.

For my part, I think there's always room for improvement, however small that may be. Of course the same fact remains - even if HP admin rewrote the entire rule book, there'd still be complaints, loopholes exploited etc etc.

It's in our nature to fight among ourselves, rules are kind of superfluous really
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Frogs don't seem to fight or get in trouble too much. So just watch the frog.
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  frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're right Haunty, I don't. It's a waste of good energy, more so when I believe there is no resolution. And when I do, it's only when I can physically see who it is I need to tackle.
  
  Besides which, I'd much rather spend my days smiling, happy - and eating really interesting pastries
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