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   Misbah786posted 2 years ago

   Sadly, from the time I have joined HP. I have seen a man who is continuously spreading fake news through his so-called good articles. I have ignored his articles a lot of times. but seeing him targeting every now and then is not acceptable for me and I am sure it is not acceptable for all those people who belong to that specific country or religion.
   
   The person has 2 IDs here from both of his IDs. He is spreading wrong information and so bad is his journalism. Despite ignoring him 100 times. I have made comments on 3 of his articles. One he deleted when I challenged him to prove what he is saying is right.
   He deleted the article with an apologizing note
   
   I am continuously seeing the person doing the same thing, Sadly. Yesterday I made a comment on one of his articles. Actually 8 comments in total. He deleted 5 of my comments. Just because I challenged him for what he is saying is not true.
   
   Do you people agree that fake news and fake reporting should not be written on HP.
   Do you think such articles can create BORDERS on our beautiful site and between the community?
   
   We are a lovely community, Do spreading hatred is fine? Is targeting any specific country or religion is Okay? especially if it is based on fake knowledge. My challenge to the author is to make my comments visible. Let people see his bad journalism and Hatred.
   
   Patience has limits and I believe I have been patient enough. We are writers and the community should support each other and should not hurt each other's sentiments.
   I would appreciate positive replies from our lovely community.
   
   If particular things will keep happening, I am afraid it will affect the love we have as a community. Please raise your voice for Peace. I am not asking, not to write anything but don't spread false news and false assumptions.
   
   Don't make CLICKBAITS
   
   #StopSpreadingHate

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      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misbah, just unfollow him. Don't read articles that incense you or follow those whose beliefs conflict with yours. And follow Eric's advice. I have a very dear friend who got banned from HP because of the comments she was leaving on another hubber's articles that angered her. Just stay away from the dark clouds and continue to shine your light to those who are open.

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         Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks a lot, Shauna. I highly appreciate your kind words. I am not following that person, but yes, he is following me from one of his profiles. I keep ignoring him quite often, but his articles keep appearing in my feed as we have some mutual followers and whenever they comment on his article. It pops up on my feed. Something I can't help. I believe bringing it to the community's notice was all I can do. I am sure he will not stop, but I will not be leaving any further comments on his articles. All of his articles are just his opinions and none of them are on the niche and  carries no verifiable citation of facts. I am grateful
         Blessings and Love

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      Kyler J Falkposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It isn't uncommon to be targeted, or find those who are targeting others here, Misbah, but the report feature works quite well on articles. Even better is screenshotting whatever you see and emailing the HP team directly expressing your concerns.
      
      There was once an individual who was widely supported by the community here despite their egregious behavior, and they are now gone because of active members in the community seeking justice for the victims of such behavior. Trolls who find themselves to be hilarious despite being hurtful also find themselves being banned. Unfortunately, though, passive aggression is still totally acceptable so we can't win on all fronts.
      
      Never be afraid to expose wrongdoing, because you may just be saving many more people in the future with a single action! Keep up the good fight, and we'll keep watching your back.

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         Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks a lot, Kyler. Highly respect your kind gesture. Believe me, I am not the only one who feels he is doing wrong and spreading hate. There are a few more people here who have knocked on my inbox a few times to say, what the person keeps on writing is unbearable. My concerns are if any author writes an opinionated article without any cited references. He should state some facts upon asking. Everything should not be just his opinions. I believe these articles have an agenda to spread misguidance and false news. The comments he deleted were facts. I believe the facts should remain in the comments. But he cleverly left those comments of mine in his article, in which I got harsh.
         Why he deleted the facts and resources I provided. Blessing to him and his false knowledge. Everybody cannot agree with his opinions. He cannot claim to know my country and my religion better than me of course. Much gratitude, Dear friend.
         
         Blessings and Peace

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      Mark O Richardsonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. While we may not like what someone says, we should understand that there are many sources where people get their information. People are also not easily swayed.

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   Jodahposted 2 years ago

   Thank you for bringing this to our attention Misbah. I don't know who the person is you are referring to but I trust you and your observations. Prejudice, hatred, and false news should not be welcome here but may be difficult to police or stop. though when it is seen it needs to be called out.
   I don't think it right that comments are deleted unless they are actually hate speech or trolling. so the fact he deleted your concerns is wrong and maybe proof of guilt. It is a shame when others try to disrupt this great community. (please email me the identity of the person you speak of.)

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks a lot for your kindness, John. Yes, you are right. My comments on his articles were facts which he hides. I do believe he hid them because of guilt or maybe he just wanted to stick with his own agenda and opinions. It was my duty to bring this issue to the community's notice.  A lot of community members are getting affected by his false knowledge and his opinions. I believe the facts should remain in the comments. But he cleverly left those comments of mine in which I got harsh. I must say he played very well. I am grateful for your support.
      Blessings always

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   Moondot1822posted 2 years ago

   I believe in freedom of expression. But that doesn't mean I have to say whatever I want to say. When you are part of a community, take care of the feelings of the people there.
   And there are people from all walks of life and all religions. When writing, be careful not to offend anyone.

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I Agree. Thanks a lot, dear sister
      Blessings to you

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   EricDockettposted 2 years ago

   HubPages has policies against hatespeech. If you think he has violated this, flag his article and let the moderators deal with it.
   
   I believe I have tracked down the article you are concerned about. I'd say a greater issue is that his article appears to have been copied from another source.
   
   But I see nothing hateful here. Perhaps it shines a light in an aspect of your culture you'd rather stay in the dark, or that you personally don't believe is true, but that's not the same as spreading hate. It's journalism. (This guy isn't a journalist, but I checked a few facts on the original article and they are corroborated by other sources.)
   
   You can't harass people in their comments section and call them out in the forum  simply because you don't agree with them. If you continue that, you may end up getting flagged yourself. This guy has been far more patient with you than I would have been.
   
   So, flag him for hatespeech if you think it is warranted. Leave a comment and say your piece. But just leave people alone when you don't agree with them, even if you think they are wrong. He has the right delete your comments, especially if you are leaving eight of them. That's borderline harassment.
   
   Just as HubPages isn't a place for hate, it is also not a place for shutting down voices simply because you disagree.

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      Moondot1822posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Eric, our purpose is not to shut down voices. But we don't like when someone says 'fake Muslim nation'.  Who gives them the right to judge us? It's not ethical.

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         EricDockettposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         When people are allowed to freely express themselves you will often hear things you don't like. I live in the United States. People insult my country, my beliefs, my political ideology, my ethics, and my personal philosophy every single day. It happens on the news, around the internet, in mainstream television, and even here on HubPages.
         
         It's okay. People are allowed to express their thoughts and opinions. But people need to start leaving each other alone when they disagree or we are headed for a world of constant conflict.
         
         I saw nothing in the article I looked at that was hateful in any way. It may ruffle some feathers, but that's not the same at hatespeech. Maybe I looked at the wrong article.
         
         As I said before, if you think someone has crossed the line simply flag the article and let HP decide. But don't harass people in their comment section or in the forums because you disagree with them or because they upset you.

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            Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you, Eric. I respect your opinion. When I posted this forum I knew I would have to answer a few people who will say I did wrong. As I clearly mention in the forum post that I stayed patient for a long time and not only me there are a lot of others as well,  I cannot name them as privacy concerns. Sadly, he has been writing such material for a very long time. How can you say the article shines a light on an aspect of our culture? I mean without seeing any facts and resources. This was the thing that was worrying us. How can we believe anyone's opinion is true? Regarding America, I respect each and every religion and country. I have seen many Americans taking a stand for their country on forum threads and I highly respect them for doing this. And he was writing an entire article as a routine how can you say I crossed the borderline. I agree I should have not left eight comments, but at least I am true to the community and didn't tell a lie to anyone. Didn't hide anything like he hid my comments that were based on facts. I believe, He should mention resources and verified citations.
            Regarding Patience, I would say not only me, but many others who belong to the same country and religion stayed much more patient and he very often crosses borderline.
            I am not asking him not to write. I am just asking not to attack others with his opinions. Add verified citations without violating the community and HP rules and write whatever he wants to write. I appreciate your response.
            Blessings and Peace

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         Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, moon, you know everything. I don't need to tell you anything Our sufferings are the same. Thank you for raising your voice with me. God Bless you always. Gratitude, dear sister
         Blessings and Love

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Well noted. And thanks.

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         Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks a lot, Miebakagh
         Peace and blessings

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. And well noted.

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   Peggy Wposted 2 years ago

   Hi Misbah,
   
   Like you, I try to ignore much of the fake news spread on this site.  It is pervasive and seemingly unending.  Some venues are trying to fact-check and eliminate writings like this. I think that there are no filters on this site preventing articles like we are often seeing.  People writing these articles have an agenda.  Facts will not convince them to change their mind.  Let's continue to fill this site with articles about places, people, love, and peace.

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Peggy. I agree with you. Such writings have an agenda. Opinionated articles without any resources and references, it is a violation. And if a person tells them the fact and they hide it. There's something wrong definitely.
      I believe there should be some filters.
      Blessings, love and Peace

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   Lorna Lamonposted 2 years ago

   Hi Misbah,
   
   I'm sorry to hear of your experience, however, I think we can be side-tracked by the amount of fake news we hear nowadays, and most of it is toxic.I would suggest you unfollow this person or report them. You can also ignore them or you may end up fuelling the flames.

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks a lot for sharing your kind thoughts, Lorna. Highly Appreciated.
      I am not following that person but he is following me from one of his profiles.
      Blessings and love

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   theraggededgeposted 2 years ago

   One suggestion is that you take the topic and write a brilliant, well-researched, accurate article about it. The person you are complaining about doesn't appear to have many, if any, articles on the network sites. The best revenge is to make a success out of his negativity

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks a lot, Bev. I respect your suggestion. Yes the author doesn't have any of his articles on niche sites ( as far as I know)
      Love, Blessings and Peace

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   AliciaCposted 2 years ago

   Misbah, I understand why you are upset, but you need to pay attention to what people have said in this thread. You certainly have the right to leave a comment on an article with the correct facts or with your opinion, and that comment could be important. Leaving multiple critical comments and accusing the writer of bad behaviour in the comment section and the forum could get you into trouble, however. It wasn’t hard for me to discover which writer you’re talking about, even though you haven’t named them.
   
   I’m not saying that you shouldn’t stand up for your beliefs or opinions. I am saying that it should be done carefully on this site. The information that you’ve shared in this thread should be sent in a private message to HubPages.
   
   Theraggededge has an excellent idea. Write an article yourself containing the correct facts about the situation described in the article or containing your point of view (without mentioning the original article or the writer).

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks a lot, Linda. Highly Appreciated, dear friend. You are always helpful and supportive. I respect your opinions and thoughts. Much love
      Blessings and Peace

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   Brenda Arledgeposted 2 years ago

   Misbah
   I have no idea who you are speaking about but I trust your perception.
   We have free speech so many times we will disagree.
   I often find others who disagree with my thoughts, but I will always post their comments as long as they are not threatening.
   Two sides of the coin.
   Takd care

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks a lot for your kind response, Brenda
      Much appreciated, dear friend. Thanks for your trust. Gratitude
      I got harsh in comments when the author hid the facts i mentioned in the comments section. Cleverly he left those ones which were harsh . He played very well
      Blessings to him and his knowledge
      Love, Peace and Blessings to you

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    PaulGoodman67posted 2 years ago

    As has been said, bombarding a hub with comments is not the answer. Of course, you can flag it and explain why the article is breeching the HP rules, if you believe that's the case.
    
    If it's on hubpages.discovery, that means it's unlikely to get many views anyway, and if it's the article I just read, then it probably won't ever appear in the niches. I think it's best to be pragmatic, you've made your comment and expressed why you believe the article is false, now it's probably best to ignore it and walk away imho.

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, Paul, I agree I should have not left 8 comments on his article, but he also should not have deleted my comments which contained facts. He cleverly left those comments which were rude. Flagging his article will not help me because there are a large number of similar articles on both of his profiles. I prefer to make the community aware of this. Even if you call it bombarding at least I stayed true to the community if I left 8 comments on his article I told it to everyone myself. Didn't hide anything
       I appreciate your response. I am grateful
       Blessings and Peace

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          PaulGoodman67posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          While you may perceive yourself as the injured party in all this, it doesn't take a huge leap of imagination to understand how HP might interpret your actions, both in comments and forum, as a personal attack on another writer.
          
          For what it's worth, my advice is to stop trying to defend the actions that got you banned and focus on your writing. Take a complete and indefinite break from the forums and commenting.

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             Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

             I appreciate your help and kind response, Paul. Highly Appreciate and respect your opinion. Much Gratitude.
             
             Please do know that I don't have any personal issues with anyone. I am here to write, not to fight. I respect every culture, country, and religion and expect the same in return.
             
             I am relaxed to see that even without naming the author many people on this forum were able to recognize whom I am talking about. I want to end this discussion here.
             
             I have always cared about the feelings of other people. And thankfully, I am at PEACE.
             
             Peace, Love, and Blessings to you and to all our wonderful community

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                Moondot1822posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Misbah, we don't need to prove that we are not here to fight. We should stop our discussion here. And I thank all who have supported us in this situation. We all here are human beings and our first concern should be humanity.

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          bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Misbah, I, unlike others, have not figured out who the offender is. I don't follow or read articles that pertain to politics, race, or religion. Those are hot, very personal topics and I avoid them at all cost, including when communicating in person.
          
          I steer clear of things that upset me in life. Some may say I live with my head stuck in the sand. I say I live with rose-colored glasses on at all times, which is why I avoid people with mindsets that disrupt my peace. We all have a choice. I choose to not let those who defame, criticize, or enrage through written or spoken word, come into my world.
          
          I would suggest to you, Misbah, that you choose positivity over negativity. Those who speak ill and cause harm will fade away unless you/we give them power to carry on. Don't feed them. Ire is what they're looking to incite. Let them be angry and judgmental in their own circles. Don't widen their reach. Rise above. They'll never be able to reach you in the land of Love.

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             Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

             You are so right, Shauna. I respect you for your kind thoughts. I love your positive response.
             Thanks for sharing words of  wisdom.
             Peace, Blessings and Love

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    Moondot1822posted 2 years ago

    I have received this mail from Misbah...
    "Salam Tayabba Eid Mubarak to you and your family. I am banned to make a comment to the forum thread. Please convey my message to the people on the forum that I will reply to their questions shortly."

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks a lot Moon for conveying my message
       Blessings to you dear sister

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          Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Hi,  Misbah, d'you think Moon(dot) is a lady? He's a man. The (some) pictures you see are not the real person.

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             AliciaCposted 2 years agoin reply to this

             Moondot is a lady, Miebakagh.

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             Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

             Moon is a lady and I know her very well. She's Muslim and is from my home country Pakistan
             Blessings

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                Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Misbah, really? Okay. It's up to you.

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             Moondot1822posted 2 years agoin reply to this

             Miebakagh, I have already told that the account which I used to write is My husband's account. And the picture on my profile is a real picture of my 5 years old daughter. And I won't say that again because I'm not answerable to anyone. And I don't like to share my personal stuff on the forum.

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                Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Moon, okay. Good to know and noted. You're welcome.

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                   Moondot1822posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                   You have helped me in my early days on HP. I am thankful to you.

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                      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                      Oh, I remember. It's always a pleasure. However, thanks for the compliments.

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    Misbah786posted 2 years ago

    Sorry everyone I was banned to write a comment on the forums

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    Kenna McHughposted 2 years ago

    Read through this thread, and the comments are excellent.  Also, I have noticed some writers on HP, not a lot, like to write articles that upset others. It is intentionally done for views or blatant evil. Ignore this person and flourish and prosper.  Eventually, the writer will go into apathy and fad away. That is the best defense.

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       I agree with you, Kenna
       Yes, ignorance is the best revenge and defense. I did my part and told about it to the community. I know they all are well intelligent. I hope that the author may stop spreading false knowledge which is nothing other than just his opinions. Highly Appreciated
       I am Grateful
       Peace, Blessings, and Love

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    Misbah786posted 2 years ago

    Please, everyone, note my last words here.
    
    Please do know everyone that I don't have any personal issues with anyone. I am here to write, not to fight. I respect every culture, country, and religion and expect the same in return.
    
    I am relaxed to see that even without naming the author many of you were able to recognize whom I am talking about. I want to end this discussion here.
    
    Many people on this forum are the ones whom I am following and a few are the ones who are following me and I believe most of you know that I have always spread the message of Love, Peace, and oneness through my articles.
    
    I have always cared about the feelings of other people. And thankfully, I am at PEACE.
    
    Peace, Love, and Blessings to all our wonderful community

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    Miebakagh57posted 2 years ago

    When this thread was posted, I take my time. I thought it's a troll person issue. As no name is mention, I refused to input comment initially.                                         Now, I've gone through all posts and replies, and, I'm enlightened.                                              Thank you Erik, Bev, and Linda for your insights.

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks and Blessings to you

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          Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Misbah, you're welcome.

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    Kenna McHughposted 2 years ago

    Very good!

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Kenna
       Blessings and love

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    Constant Jumaposted 2 years ago

    Hi Misbah, unfollow and stop reading his/her articles, that is the best way avoid being hurt, because if we disagree agreeably, it's a win-win situation for all of us.

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for your kind response and suggestions, Juma.
       Blessings and Peace

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