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   jreitzposted 11 years ago

   The site downtime yesterday was a networking outage in the datacenter we are in, it was not related to HubPages specifically and service was fully restored within four hours.  By 8:15 am PDT Friday we were (and are currently are) operating normally.

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      IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There was another algo update, it seems, that may have affected many hubbers, myself included (though not this account).
      
      http://www.webpronews.com/matt-cutts-ju … ge-2012-09

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         Gordon Hamiltonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Traffic now down circa 80% from established levels less than 48 hours ago. Have to go back years rather than months to find such low levels of traffic... Hope it's a bedding in period...

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            paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            "Right now
            4
            active visitors on site"
            
            I seem to be alive and well... I'm not getting rich, but I do hit payout every now and then. Google still hasn't indexed my last hub though. Kind of kills my desire to write...

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               IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I had a hub once that didn't index for weeks, and this happened long before the 'idle hubs' change.
               
               I think you should forget about it, and concentrate on writing another hub, if you feel like it. It will index eventually.
               
               It only really matters when your hub is on something topical, or for a rapidly approaching holiday or season.
               
               My active visitors on site have reduced from about 11 - 25 to about 2 - 8.
               
               Hey what has been your highest number?
               
               Mine was 230. I was so excited I wrote it down lol.
               
               It lasted on and off for about a week! Long gone now.

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                  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Alas, my personal best is still in the single digits. But hope springs eternal...

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                     Gordon Hamiltonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Sorry to be so naive - but where do you get that sort of information?

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                        paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Proceed to Google Analytics.
                        
                        Click "Home".
                        
                        Click "Real-Time".
                        
                        Click "Overview"

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                           Gordon Hamiltonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           Ahh - OK. Thanks anyway. I've never been able to figure out how to register for Google Analytics and have tried several times, including using the guide in HP learning centre. Techy things are most definitely not my forte...

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                              IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Oh Gordon, you have to get it set up!
                              
                              Right, try again. Go over there and when they ask for your site name, use gordonhamilton.hubpages.com and follow the instructions.
                              
                              They will give you a reference number there and then, starting with UA.
                              
                              Take that number and put in the space for your Analytics under Earnings.
                              
                              That should be it. I think it takes an hour or two to start working, though I can't remember.
                              
                              Any new subdomain you start can get its own number, but it is easier to put them all under the same number, that let's you see at a glance which hubs are getting hits.
                              
                              Its not so good for working out which subs do better than others, but you'll know if you keep records on an Excel sheet.
                              
                              Now that we have Real Time, it is worth setting it up

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                                 Gordon Hamiltonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 Hi, Izzy and thanks.
                                 
                                 Tried and got a message saying, "You are about to delete your Google Adsense history and settings. Are you sure you wish to proceed?" (Words very close to those ones, at least). I clicked no.
                                 
                                 Think I'm definitely doing something wrong. I have got a friend who's a bit of a techy so maybe I'll give him a call tomorrow and see if he can stop in and help me (I live two streets away from his parents - so maybe the next time he's visiting them he can call in on me)...

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            IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            When I look at my own subs, the two that are worst hit are both niche subdomains with keyword in url.
            
            On the other hand, they are not thin content or low quality, so hopefully it is only a bedding in period that traffic stays away for.

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      IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Forgot to say - thanks for posting!
      
      It really is important and appreciated when staff make an input on a thread

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   Barbara Kayposted 11 years ago

   My traffic went way down so far for Friday and Saturday too, but I'm not sure it has to do with a new Panda or anything. I searched my keywords and I'm still on the front page for most hubs. I have noticed that about.com is coming up as many as 5 times for the first results. I smell something fishy there.

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      IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      When Panda initially hit this site, I saw my traffic fall by the hour, yet still saw my main keyword hold their position for the longest time.
      
      I fear that Google SERPS is not much of a benchmark.
      
      I am still seeing a huge loss of traffic on my other subdomains, yet the SERPS read the same as usual. I don't trust them.

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         David 470posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That's how I am feeling sometimes because I had some hubs that were high in SERPS, but traffic was still going down. Of course this could just mean that  those keywords were getting less searched, but I still think SERPS are not the only benchmark to go off of.

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         Gordon Hamiltonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I really need to get beyond my Hovis, Horlicks and flat cap. SERPS (State Earnings Related Pensions Scheme) that stands between me and bankruptcy in my latter years?... I have never heard of SERPS in relation to anything else. Having said that, Google probably owns my pension now as well...

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            Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Well, last I looked, Google was buying up everything in sight, lol.  The wife and I was just talking about all the areas that Google has moved into. Google is amazing in that aspect.

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               Southernmapartposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               How about posting a list for us?  Thanks.

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                  Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Google has this great "new" tool that most of us use to learn about such "lists"....it is used in a thing that takes personal time called "research."  Research for another I get paid to do.   I would suggest that you use that new tool by Google called "Search."

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                     Southernmapartposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     I understand and appreciate your position.

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      GoGreenTipsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I have had the same experience...I had four hubs on google first page, they still are, but have dropped down the page; Taking top spots are yahoo answers, ask.com and other answer sites with the same keywords. Interesting?

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   "Right now
   0
   active visitors on site"
   
   Paradigmsearch contemplates life...

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      Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I had four at one time earlier! I was grabbing a beer to celebrate and pop, poop, crash....zero..... . However, it is a cool tool.  I like cool tools (no weird comments here.)

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   alexadryposted 11 years ago

   A lot of fishy things are happening lately. I write for dog magazines and newsletters and must provide reputable links to back up facts on my articles and my search results yield a bunch of youtube videos, yahoo answers and forum posts. I hate Google at the moment; my searches yield poor results and I have to dig deep like 5 pages to avoid the crappy websites and find the more reputable ones. Also, there are some terrible websites on the first page. I know some websites pay to get on the first page of Google, I wonder if this can play a role in this....

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      Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      

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         Rochelle Frankposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That is one of the strangest graphics I have ever seen-- pirhana people?

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            mythbusterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            There must be a story behind the pirhana-people... lol
            
            Do you know the story?

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            Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I just stumbled across it..it is amazing. If you smile the fish smile, if you growl, the fish growl, lol. Love it... I am having my own thoughts about creation with such things.

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   PaulGoodman67posted 11 years ago

   Well, if HP techno probs are fixed and it's purely the algo change that's causing the flux in traffic, then I guess we'll just have to see how it goes over the next couple of weeks to get a gauge on traffic.

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      Gordon Hamiltonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed - the if's, buts and maybes appear to have been covered. It's now over to time, fact...and the Big G!

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   DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years ago

   Google is buying up this, that and the other; AT&T/Ma Bell got spanked a few years back for doing the same thing, and they are back at it, as are SO many other major corporations.
   I don't recall seeing a single thing about the Sherman Anti-Trust Act being repealed or amended, yet, we are seeing more and more of a trend toward monopolies and shutting out of competition.
   Did you know, we are now reduced to just twelve  major corporations,worldwide??!!   It disgusts me!
   My husband's hobby is following corporate lineage, and while there may appear  to be many more than a dozen, there are not--it's just that the ones that have been bought are still operating under their original names... as a "dba" under the new parent company.

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      Southernmapartposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      MzLzzy, please consider asking your husband to get us a list of entities and sites scoffed up by Google and post here.  Many thanks for the extra effort.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   @Google. You can buy my subdomain for a mere $99,999.

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      Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am the official Google Broker.. I shall delve into your offer.

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   Dale Hydeposted 11 years ago

   Just an update as of this morning. Out of 116 hubs, I have one (1) that is getting views.The other 115 are well under ten (10) views each. An all time low.  My traffic has dropped off drastically over two months ago  My earnings are approximatley 1/4 of what they used to be normally.  My total views are 303...and the vast majority are on the one hub I mention. Google has simple stopped producing my hubs in search results.  What traffic I am getting is mostly Google unrelated.  It used to be mostly Google. 
   
   Actually upon checking my stats just now, The majority of my hubs are reflecting zero (0) views. I have two that are at ten, the few left that do have views are in the low range of under 6 views.

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      aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Google has just done a panda algo change (as opposed to a simple data refresh) last Thursday, which has again slapped the site.  It is rather strange because they made no announcement about it, in fact it looked like they were trying to conceal it under the EMD update.  Possibly your traffic loss is because of that, the quant cast graph for HubPages looks rather grim.
      
      One step forward, three steps back.

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         Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I skip days of coming in as it is so depressing, lol.  Thanks for the additional information.

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   Dale Hydeposted 11 years ago

   I see ten hours has passed and no one has commented. That would be a good thing I would suppose, lol, as I would take it that all is well with others and it is simply my sub-domain that has been effected.
   
   One other note, I did some research and the last time I earned this amount of money was seven months ago, with less than half the amount of hubs that I have now.  The downhill spiral continues.
   
   
   

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      MargaritaEdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Downhill spiral for me also, before last update I had over 500 views a day, today 12.

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         Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry to hear this, but it appears to be a "trend".... I was not posting new hubs, but broke my own promise not to do so a few days ago, and that did not help either...

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    Marseiposted 11 years ago

    Glad you said that.  I won't do it!

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    Greekgeekposted 11 years ago

    Dale, here's my rather pathetic Hubtraffic for the past week or so:
    
    Pre-September-28: 500-700 visitors a day.
    Post Google Panda 20: 200-375 visitors a day.
    
    500-700 visitors a day is not all that brilliant for 100 hubs, but... ouch.
    
    This drop means that I will not be making the monthly payout threshold on HP until things return to normal. I think about 2-3 more hubs pulling traffic might put me back over that threshold, but after the noindexing mess, I don't feel all that keen about creating new content here. I've just been doing a little SEO tweaking hoping to pull in a little more traffic on existing hubs.

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       Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I think you are going to find that this is the new normal.

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       Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I feel the same about "not" creating new content here. I have put a ton of time into creating "unique" material here and was doing well just to get slapped down over and over to the point of nothing. Very discouraging.  I know it is not all about earnings and I do like to share what I write with people that seek such information with no return such as a HP payout. However, the suppression of the hubs and/or site is also defeating that purpose of sharing with others.

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          cameciobposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I just created a new hub myself,
          It is called "The Google dance"
          
          My views did not recover after 27.
          My latest hubs have not been indexed yet, and they both were published before that date.
          
          Take your hat off, baby
          
          tonight
          
          I'm gonna do the dance
          
          I'm gonna shake it
          
          and wake it
          
          Tonight
          
          i'am gonna do the dance
          
          
          I'am gonna google
          
          and screwgle
          
          I'm gonna rank you all
          
          Tonight
          
          I'm gonna dance
          
          and I do it for money
          
          chained with gold
          
          and covered in honey
          
          so
          
          take your hat off baby,
          
          and link me....
          
          I long for your eyes
          
          burried under the sky
          
          for tomorrow
          
          you may revive
          
          or may die
          
          cos my name is
          
          Goooooooooooooooooooooogle

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             Marseiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Clever!  I like it.

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