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  1. Ken Burgess profile image86
    Ken Burgessposted 4 months ago

    Funding Anti-ICE Protests: Follow the Money
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Oz3DrFGwUc

    Very informative and worth the watch.

  2. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    "Companies are ditching business with ICE"

    As well they should!

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/02/business … e-backlash

  3. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    More examples of Trump and DHS's cruelty

    "Lawmakers hear testimony today on several people’s encounters with DHS agents. Catch up on their stories here"

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/03/us/testi … ice-dc-vis

  4. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    I guess I am going to find out what it is like to do battle with DHS. Probably the Sherriff and maybe some Bradford County Florida commissioners had a consultant come in on the 15th to make a proposal to establish a 3,000 bed detention facility just outside of Starke city limits. It will include another 1,000 people to staff it whom most will have to come from the outside. Note: Starke has less than 6,000 people and Bradford County about 28,000.

    It is interesting in that the the commissioners hid the presentation so nobody would know it was happening by hiding it in the agenda as "consultant briefing" or something like that. Word got out anyway and a few members from the Bradford County Democratic Executive Committee and quite a few citizens from the county made their way in to oppose the move. Many got up and spoke their three minutes. One of them wouldn't stop commenting from the gallery. I was watching this live on Zoom and say the Sherriff who was speaking forcefully in favor of this, lunge off camera to go after this guy.

    I think one commissioner was already opposed and another appeared swayed by the opposition along with not liking the sneaky way his fellow commissioner tried to keep this quiet. The proposal was to allow the consultant to prepare a proposal to submit to DHS to locate a detention center on a 30-acre piece of property just South of town. The vote was 3 - 2 in favor.

    (more on the guy the Sherriff seemed to lunge at. The board told the guy to leave the room and he did, while say a couple of more things while doing it. I am not sure where the Sherriff went, but this guy was met by 5 Bradford County deputies at his car who interrogated him, threatening to throw him in jail. Fortunately, they didn't

    The DEC set up a committee to look into what actions we can take to keep this terrible facility out of our county. We were joined by members from the local Sierra Club who has the same goal.

    I'll keep you updated.

  5. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    An honest ICE lawyer (a dying breed) tells the truth to a judge

    "An Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorney detailed to Minnesota to help handle the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown in the Twin Cities has been removed from her post after telling a judge that the job “sucks” because of the crushing workload and the government’s apparent inability to comply with court orders.

    The attorney, Julie Le, was sent back to her job at ICE, according to a source familiar with the matter.

    In an extraordinarily candid exchange with a federal judge on Tuesday, Le, who had been asked to explain why the administration was not promptly complying with a slew of court orders stemming from immigration cases she’s handling, admitted that the government did not have enough lawyers on the ground to adequately keep up with Operation Metro Surge and that trying to get errors fixed is like “pulling teeth.”

    “They are overwhelmed and they need help, so I, I have to say, stupidly (volunteered),” she told US District Judge Jerry Blackwell, according to a transcript of the hearing obtained by CNN. Blackwell is threatening to hold her and another lawyer in contempt for repeated violations of orders he’s issued in immigration cases.

    “Sometime I wish you would just hold me in contempt, your honor, so that I can have a full 24 hours of sleep. I work days and night just because people (are) still in there,” Le said.

    “And, yes, procedure in place right now sucks. I’m trying to fix it,” she continued. “I am here with you, your honor. What do you want me to do? The system sucks. This job sucks. And I am trying every breath that I have so that I can get you what you need.”

  6. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    "She thought ICE agents were taking her to school. The 10-year-old ended up 1,200 miles away at a detention facility"

    I see the DHS Goons are at it again.

    "More than an hour before dawn, on a pitch-black street lined with heaps of Minnesota snow, 10-year-old Elizabeth Zuna Caisaguano and her mother headed out to her school bus stop – just like they do every weekday at 6:10 a.m.

    Out of nowhere, federal agents’ vehicles surrounded the family’s car in suburban Minneapolis. Elizabeth thought the agents were going to take her to school, her father told CNN.

    Instead, the aspiring doctor and her mother were detained and flown 1,200 miles away to the South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas – with the young girl’s future up in the air.

    Over the next month, at least five other kids from her small school district were also sent across the country to Dilley – including 5-year-old Liam Conejo Ramos."


    Again - Pure Trump Terror!


    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/06/us/minne … mmigration

    1. Sharlee01 profile image84
      Sharlee01posted 3 months agoin reply to this

      In short, it was an immigration deportation enforcement case (related to a prior removal order and asylum proceedings), not a criminal arrest.

      She is described by DHS as an "illegal alien from Ecuador with a final order of removal" (meaning she had gone through immigration proceedings and was ordered deported after due process).

      Because a child (10-year-old Elizabeth Zuna Caisaguano) was in the car and no alternative caregiver was immediately arranged, the family was kept together and transferred to the South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas.

      Perhaps she should have left when asked to by our immigration court. This would have prevented her child from ending up in a detention center. As a parent, the mother made a poor choice to break our immigration laws.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        In short, we don't know that. It doesn't look like they are the worst of the worst criminals they are supposed to be going after does it. Remember, they said they weren't going after kids or tax paying nannies or landscapers

        How do you know they were even asked to leave? As has been shown multiple times now, that is not a criteria DHS uses any longer. 

        How do you know the mother broke any immigration law - perhaps she had a legal reason to be here. In America, haven't you said before innocent until proven guilty or don't you believe that for brown people?

        The point is you don't know anymore because you can no longer trust ANYTHING DHA says they have lied so often and broken so many laws as have proven many times already..

  7. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    Some of you on the Right will get a chuckle out of this and applaud the ICE agent who violently throws woman to the ground.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/09/us/video … prays-vrtc

    1. Sharlee01 profile image84
      Sharlee01posted 3 months agoin reply to this

      One can see she approached an officer and began physically fighting with him. Nut job.

  8. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    "Trump administration deported some migrants at a cost of $1 million each, Democratic report says"

    In full disclosure, that was meant to catch your attention, the actual cost is more like $17,000

    Apply that to the 4,000 in Minneapolis DHS says they kidnapped (ok, a few were real criminals), then since Dec 1, Trump has wasted $68 MILLION shipping hardworking, taxpaying, less violent than native-born counterparts nannies and landscapers out of the country. You who support this terrorism sure like to spend money. Just think how many hungry American kids that could have fed.

    That doesn't count the ~$7,000 per person in lost tax revenue and the $36,000 per person lost economic activity. Just applying that to the 70% of detainees who were hardworking, taxpaying, less violent than native-born immigrants from Minneapolis you get ~$20 million MORE lost and a reduction in economic activity of ~$100 million!  And that is just from 2,800 people. GOD WHAT A WASTE just to satisfy Trump's ego.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/13/politics … nts-report

    I am aware that those on the other side would have run with the $1,000,000 rather than the $17,000)

    1. Ken Burgess profile image86
      Ken Burgessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      Maybe if they were never allowed in, in the first place, we wouldn't have had to waste that money.

      Wonder how much they were costing the American taxpayer to be here?

      Which was the better deal... if spending 68 million dollars saved American taxpayers 680 million dollars, a year, for even a few years, then the math speaks for itself... if that is your primary concern.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        Seems like that is a red herring. They are already here. According to your side, Bush, then Obama, then Trump, then Biden wrote laws and policies that made these people cross the border. It had nothing to do with them trying to save their and their children's lives from where they came from does it.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image86
          Ken Burgessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

          Actually that is somewhat true... those laws (International) and those agendas set by the UN were supported by the Obama Administration.

          Partly explained here (timestamped to the relevant part):
          https://youtu.be/oS4vzUqoOhc?t=217

          The UN's Global Compact for safe orderly and regular migration.  Now, there is speculation that China "supported" this knowing that flooding "the West" with millions of uneducated people would burden the Welfare states of the West and hasten their downfall.

          The Obama Administration initiated American participation in the UN's New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants in 2016, as they expected an easy victory over Trump, there was a decision to keep it under wraps until Clinton took control... then what occurred during the Biden Administration would have occurred 4 years earlier... on day ONE Biden signed on to the UN Global Compact on Migration (Trump had refused) and opened the borders, flew in hundreds of thousands of migrants at taxpayer expense and put them on government support.

          But going back to the Clinton years, when he allowed in tens of thousands of Cuban and Haitian migrants, putting them on 7 years of full government support (housing, welfare, snap, etc.) ... the tone was being set, politicians would cave and give migrants free stuff rather than make the hard choices and say... Citizens and American interests first.

          Besides, all those lobbyists and corporate funders wanted that cheap labor all that was needed was a little silence, some false reporting, or a feel good story sold to the American people... few realized that the wage stagnation and job loss had just as much to do with the millions of illegals flowing in, as the exporting of industry to China and elsewhere.

          The Left talks alot about wanting to be like Europe, in particular the Netherlands and their social welfare state(s)... but as we see, they are ready for economic collapse... largely because they no longer have access to cheap Russian energy and resources... but also because they are now carrying millions of migrants, welfare states that could ill afford to add millions more to the ranks of those getting 'free stuff'.

          As explained here:
          Why the Netherlands Is Becoming a Dystopia
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56qKx6Y5LBU

          Now lets consider for a moment... if AI is replacing menial jobs at the fast food restaurant as well as white collar jobs in office buildings that were once six figure salary jobs... why is it that we are letting in millions of uneducated people that do not share our language or cultural values?

          Doesn't make much sense, unless there are others who are wanting to see our economic decline and social cohesion evaporate... if you think in terms of what China (and others for sure) wants for America, then the decisions our politicians have made for the last 30 years (minus Trump) makes a ton of sense... our industry was gutted and moved to China, made the 'elites' immensely rich the financial institutions and international banking gained wealth and power beyond the imagination.

          At the cost of our economy... our Middle Class... our Industrial might... a few got rich, or got trips to Epstein Island... at the expense of the rest of us.

          Trump may be able to reverse the trend and deter America's downfall and the rise of China's global dominance... but its a longshot.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 3 months agoin reply to this

            We have an Executive and a Congress, I am not sure the UN carries much weight regarding our immigration policy. What, in my opinion, would help the  most is if Republicans would stop boycotting a comprehensive immigration policy. Three times the Democrats tried to push one through; two of the times the Senate agreed. It was the Republican House that killed it. That is who I blame.

            Of course I had check your Clinton claim. There was a tiny kernel of truth in what you wrote. The Fact is, the REPUBLICAN Congress passed the 1996 welfare law (PRWORA) and Clinton signed it. The 7 years that ALL the Cubans took advantage, as you claim, was part of the 1997 REPUBLICAN Balanced Budget Act.

            The REPUBLICANS provided for "putting them on 7 years of full government support (housing, welfare, snap, etc.) .is just plain BS. Yes, there were some who used it for the full seven years, but not many.

            So, this appears to be projection where you projected something Republicans did on to Democrats.

  9. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    You on the right keep saying the immigrants should go through the normal process to gain citizenship (and we on the left agree). But apparently Trump, unsurprisingly, doesn't.

    "Cancelled citizenship ceremonies and interviews are another part of Trump’s immigration crackdown"

  10. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    [b]ICE and DHS FINALLY admits they lied[b]

    Remember that guy they were chasing who they said attacked them with a broom and that they shot as he ran for his life into an apartment? You know, the one many of you said was TOTALLY JUSTIFIED and wondered why the rest of us didn't believe ICE's initial version (I keep saying you can't believe ANYTHING ICE leadership or agents on the ground say).

    Well, a surprising ICE investigation into the incident came up with an even more surprising conclusion - the agents and Noem LIED.

    From the always reliable CNN

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/15/us/ice-s … statements

    1. Credence2 profile image82
      Credence2posted 3 months agoin reply to this

      I am chomping at the bit for the opportunity to see this administration and its techniques eliminated. The jackbooted goons are just the beginning of democracy dying in the darkness. This movement and everything its stands for MUST be done away with….

  11. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    That sicko Trump is at again, continuing is ethnic cleansing campaign

    "Trump administration expands ICE’s ability to detain legal refugees in latest memo"

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/19/politics … ration-hnk

  12. IslandBites profile image84
    IslandBitesposted 3 months ago

    Former ICE Academy Instructor: the training for new agents is defective and broken.

    Video

    A former U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement instructor responsible for educating new ICE officers on proper use of force told Congress Monday the agency's efforts to rapidly scale up its ranks will place recruits on the streets without the training they need to lawfully carry out immigration enforcement.

    "Without reform, ICE will graduate thousands of new officers who do not know their constitutional duty, do not know the limits of their authority and who do not have the training to recognize an unlawful order. That should scare everyone," Schwank added.

    Schwank is an attorney and former career ICE employee who resigned from the immigration agency less than two weeks ago. A spokesperson for Whistleblower Aid, the legal group representing Schwank, said he quit the agency in protest. It stands as one of the first instances of an ICE official who has served under the second Trump administration publicly rebuking the agency and the adequacy of its training. Schwank resigned from ICE on Feb. 13, according to congressional aides.

    "I am duty bound to tell you the ICE Basic Immigration Enforcement Training Program is now deficient, defective, and broken," Schwank said Monday. He alleged ICE officials are lying about the amount of training new recruits receive.

    More

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      I know of at least one ICE officer stationed in Baker County, FL who is trying to figure out how to quit without giving up his huge bonus. He is disgusted with ICE and finds the conditions for inmates AND STAFF at the detention facility inhumane!

      Newspaper articles say that he is not alone in that assessment by other ICE staff there.

  13. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    In that stand-up comedy show last night ironically called the SOTU, Trump "said" he is for building houses. His ACTIONS tell a different story.

    "This is misery for us:’ New home construction stalls after immigration crackdown in Minnesota"
    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/25/economy/ … ion-impact

    1. wilderness profile image84
      wildernessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      Hmmm.  Sounds like more companies hiring illegal aliens.

      No sympathy for them at all.  Seen it before, and saw the unions picketing the company.  Then saw the company go out of business when ICE showed up. 

      Cheered. 

      Moral of the story: operate your business legally.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image84
        Sharlee01posted 3 months agoin reply to this

        Seems that one nowadays can pick and choose what laws they will support...

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        How do you know they weren't operating legally?? Is this a case of guilty until proven innocent?

        1. wilderness profile image84
          wildernessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

          It's called "critical thinking".  Why would the housing market stall without illegal aliens?  Only answer I can think of is that illegal aliens were the workers.  It's a rare illegal that will BUY a house, so it isn't that.

          Can you think of any other reason?  And don't tell me that the children of Americans were afraid to go to school because ICE would kidnap them so the market stalled out.

  14. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    How Incompetent can Hegseth get??!! ROFL

    "Pentagon shoots down US Customs and Border Protection drone with laser system, lawmakers say"

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/26/us/penta … -cbp-drone

  15. IslandBites profile image84
    IslandBitesposted 3 months ago

    Nurul Amin Shah Alam...


    That's all I have to say...

  16. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 months ago

    You do know, don’t you, that this whole “holier-than-thou” crusade against undocumented immigrants is built on two very old impulses: fear of the outsider and the belief that “real” Americans are a shrinking tribe that must be defended. Call it nativism. Call it cultural anxiety. But yes—too often it also taps into racism that’s been baked into American politics for a very long time.

    Either way, we’ve seen this movie before—against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews, the Mexicans. Each wave was portrayed as a threat. Each wave was blamed for crime, wages, “culture,” and the collapse of civilization. And each wave became part of America.

    And if Republicans stopped turning immigration into a permanent outrage machine, the same thing would be true for many of the people crossing the border today: most would work, build lives, raise kids, and—over time—be absorbed into the American story like everyone else.

    The fact is, undocumented immigrants have been living and working in the United States for decades. They build houses. They harvest crops. They work in meatpacking plants, construction crews, restaurants, hotels, and elder care—jobs that, in many regions, employers struggle to fill at anything close to the wages customers are willing to pay.

    They pay sales taxes. Many pay payroll taxes. Many contribute to Social Security using numbers they’ll never be able to use to claim benefits. In other words, they don’t just “take.” They also pay in.

    Economically, most serious analyses conclude that immigrants—including undocumented immigrants—are not the drain they’re made out to be. At worst they are close to neutral over time; often they are contributors, especially when you look at labor supply, consumption, and the way entire industries depend on their work. They expand the workforce. They increase demand. They keep certain sectors viable.

    And if Trump actually succeeds at mass removals and making people afraid to show up for work, the U.S. economy will be poorer for it—more labor shortages, more stalled construction, higher food and housing costs, and more chaos for employers who rely on a stable workforce. The grown-up solution is reform: modern immigration laws that match economic reality and enforce the rules without turning it into a cultural purge.

    On crime, the data consistently show that immigrants—documented or undocumented—are less likely to commit violent crime than native-born Americans. That doesn’t mean “no immigrant ever commits a crime.” It means the cartoon story—“they’re flooding in and making us unsafe”—isn’t supported by the evidence.

    And here’s the point your side always skips: you can always say “this crime wouldn’t have happened if X hadn’t been here.” You can also say that about tourists, about drivers, and women. How about people moving from one state to another. It’s not an argument—it’s a slogan. The real question is comparative risk. And the comparative-risk data do not support the claim that undocumented immigrants are more dangerous than native-born citizens.

    So if your goal is public safety, you don’t improve it by demonizing an entire population that is statistically less crime-prone. You improve it with smart enforcement, real screening, real work authorization systems, and serious immigration reform.

    If someone wants to argue for stricter enforcement, fine—make that case. But don’t pretend this is uniquely about crime, because the numbers don’t back that up.

    And if the argument is “they broke the law,” then let’s also acknowledge what everyone knows but few admit: our political system has failed for decades to update immigration laws to match reality. Employers rely on this labor. Politicians know it. Reform bills have come and gone—and Republicans have helped kill or sabotage them again and again, because the outrage is more politically useful than the solution.

    You can argue policy. You can argue enforcement. But turning millions of working people into moral villains doesn’t make your argument stronger—it just makes it emotional. And the “holier-than-thou” pose doesn’t look principled when the same people who demand mass deportations also depend on the cheaper labor and lower prices that immigrant work helps create.

    1. wilderness profile image84
      wildernessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      "too often it also taps into racism..."

      playing the "racism" card is far beneath you.  There is absolutely nothing racist about following the law, for everyone

      "The fact is, undocumented immigrants have been living and working in the United States for decades."

      You're right.  Is it your claim that because criminals have violated our laws (both illegals and Americans) for decades means the law should not be followed? 

      "In other words, they don’t just “take.” They also pay in."

      And the other side of the story is that they pay in far, far less than they take out.  Is there a reason you won't mention that?

      "The grown-up solution is reform"

      Unfortunately, that grown up solution is not something our legislature wants to address.  Too many powerful voices telling us that only illegals will work.  Too many quiet political voices recognizing the value of illegals in their constituency.  So...no solution for decades, and the only one offered today by Democrats is wide open borders welcoming more illegals to provide political power while feeding at the American trough.

      "It means the cartoon story—“they’re flooding in and making us unsafe”—isn’t supported by the evidence."

      And yet...one more murderer, rapist or just plain thief in the neighborhood makes it less safe.  The simple truth of that is somehow forgotten and set aside by those claiming that illegals are unlikely to.

      "But turning millions of working people into moral villains"

      What makes you assume they are moral villains?  That they are violating the law is undeniable, that it is an action based on deficient morals is a false assumption.  After all, many of these people have been taught that is is alright to violate the law, they are taught loopholes to get around the law and they are taught that it is a good thing to sneak into America.  Liberals are good at that sort of thing.

      Where would you suggest that the people demanding mass deportations buy the food that cheaper labor is producing?  When the entire market uses illegals (illegally, I might add) then where is the choice?  This statement, like so many others, sets aside the whole truth for a piece of sensationalistic verbiage that is designed and used to give a false impression.

  17. IslandBites profile image84
    IslandBitesposted 2 months ago

    Trump fires Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem

    Trump, in a post on Truth Social, said he will replace her at the department with Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.). Noem will be shifting to the role of special envoy for “The Shield of Americas,” according to the president, a new initiative for the Western Hemisphere.

  18. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 8 days ago

    With Ogreess gone from DHS and a somewhat more competent leader in place, the atrocities of ICE have declined precipitously. It seems to be heading back to when it was a useful agency.

    BUT, the damage has been done to the US economy due to that period as well as the Ogre in the WH.

    "Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future"

    "There’s no sugarcoating it. The complete 2025 data is in, and the message is clear: International visitors stayed away from the US in the first real year-over-year decline since the Covid-19 pandemic. The drop in visitors was larger than during the global recession of 2008.

    This time, it wasn’t a pandemic or a collapse of the market — it was human error.
    - meaning TRUMP's error - Travelers cite presidential rhetoric and policies manifesting in highly public wars — both figurative and literal — as some of the reasons for staying away.

    Four million fewer foreign visitors came to the US in 2025 compared to 2024, with total spending decreasing by more than $8 billion.
    - on top of the multi-billion dollar waste on other Trump endeavors -

    That’s not just bad for those working in the service and tourism industries. The impact of a self-inflicted decrease in international visitors of this magnitude has implications on America’s standing in the world, its soft power diplomacy and the economy as a whole.

    CNN first reported worrying trends last August that have manifested in a 5.5% drop in international tourism in 2025. It’s the worst single-year decline in two decades, with the exception of the 2020 pandemic.

    “We used to be a country that others wanted to emulate. That narrative no longer exists,” said Juliette Kayyem, faculty chair of the Homeland Security Project at the Harvard Kennedy School and CNN senior national security analyst.

    Kayyem explained that “soft power,” where America’s strength is reflected in more than its military powers, is weakening with a filtered story being told to those outside the country: “If you’re a foreigner now, what you’re absorbing about the United States is a dysfunctional government, ICE raids, Americans being killed, crime everywhere.”


    If you are a subscriber, you can get the rest of the report here --> https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/a … s-2025-vis

    ON TOP OF THAT - Trump is going to tell anybody applying for a Green Card go home and apply there. MESSAGE - AMERICA DOES NOT WANT YOU OR YOUR MONEY OR YOUR TAXES.

    1. wilderness profile image84
      wildernessposted 7 days agoin reply to this

      Interesting concept - that people inside our country (high probability of being here illegally) should have applied for their green card before sneaking in, and that that is the wrong attitude.

      I'm sorry; it is exactly the correct attitude.  "Tourism" is down...and so is VISA overstays.  Perhaps the two are connected, yes?  Or is that thought not to be considered because it offers a rational conclusion that does not demonize Trump?

      We really don't WANT YOU OR YOUR MONEY OR YOUR TAXES when you violate our laws pretending to support yourself inside our shores without having permission to be here!

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 7 days agoin reply to this

        There is very little truth in what you just posted.

        Truth be known, I care much more about you running a red light or stop sign than a tourist overstaying their visa. Both are illegal, but one is infinitely more dangerous. There is a much higher probability you you will hurt or kill somebody than they would.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image84
          Sharlee01posted 7 days agoin reply to this

          Your posts and shared attitude regarding illegal migrants make it very clear that you don't support our immigration laws. They just don't support your loffty non-sensical narritive.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 6 days agoin reply to this

            So, you are saying by that deflection that you consider most illegal immigrants MORE dangerous than people running stop signs or lights. Why do you focus your ire against something that is overall beneficial to America over one that is clearly causing more harm.

            I simply can't understand that worldview.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image84
              Sharlee01posted 6 days agoin reply to this

              I feel it is a must to deport anyone in my Country illegally.  Any and all....

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 6 days agoin reply to this

                And you are willing to spend billions of dollars and hurt America terribly not to mention destroying and killing real human lives rather than change the laws to something more reasonable.  WOW!

                1. Sharlee01 profile image84
                  Sharlee01posted 6 days agoin reply to this

                  I think the context of my comment is very clear.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                    You are correct. You clearly imply that you prefer spending scarce resources on hurting America by chasing people with misdemeanor violations while ignoring real crime.

                    And you avoided explaining why you see it as a MUST above all else.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 6 days agoin reply to this

                Now the question - Why is it a MUST? Wouldn't it be better to spend all that money fighting something that is more dangerous to America like cancer?

        2. wilderness profile image84
          wildernessposted 6 days agoin reply to this

          Hardly "infinitely" more dangerous; we have murders by illegal aliens every week, but never one from me running a red light.  There ARE accidental deaths from running a red light; we have a few every year...which pales compared to the murders by illegals.

          But of course there is more to it than that.  I run a red light once every 5 years; an illegal alien flouts the law every day.  It costs the state nothing if I run a red light; we pay billions every year for the millions of illegal aliens here (of which a high percentage simply didn't go home when their VISA ran out).

          Bottom line, though: we don't want either red light runners OR people here illegally.  That one is deported and the other fined a trifling amount is irrelevant; we have set the penalties as we deemed fit and reasonable.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 6 days agoin reply to this

            I know for a fact you're numbers and assessment are wrong, but since you put the numbers forward, please provide your sources.

            I also didn't miss your "move the goalposts" maneuver. You went "dangerous" to murder.

            Prove the NET impact of having illegal immigrants in America costs us money. I have proven multiple times it does not yet you keep misleading everybody by saying it does.

            Also, running stop signs and red lights is RARELY an accident. Therefore, any deaths resulting from ALMOST all redlight/stop sign infractions are at the very least manslaughter.

            1. wilderness profile image84
              wildernessposted 6 days agoin reply to this

              You need to see numbers to know that an illegal alien flouts the law every day?  You need numbers to know I haven't run a red in 5 years (NEVER been ticketed because I haven't done it more than a couple of times in 60 years of driving.  And both were accidents, not intentional.)

              You have NOT proven the net cost of having illegal aliens in the country is free or negative.  You've made the statement...and never once gave numbers of ALL the costs.  Just one - education of illegal children - is more than the large majority earn, let alone pay in taxes.  You've never included the extra police, the extra road maintenance, the extra water treatment, the extra the extra the extra.  You just cherry pick a small portion of the cost and then declare that because they pay sales tax it covers those costs and we won't talk about the myriad of other costs paid for them.

              Red lights - Google says there were about 165,000 injuries in the last 10 years from running red lights.  Given 320,000,000 people in the US and some 20,000,000 illegal aliens, that would mean that if there were 10,000 injuries caused by illegal aliens over the past decade it equals out.  Pretty sure that happened - it's only 85 injuries per month from 20,000,000 people.  Unless they're all wearing halos and have sprouted wings it's a reasonable conclusion to think that there were more injuries per capita from illegal aliens that from running red lights over the past decade (Don't forget that some of those red light accidents came from illegal aliens - approximately 6% of them based on relative population) .  Is that enough numbers for you or do you want to argue with Googles AI?

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 6 days agoin reply to this

                Personally, I think it makes more sense to direct limited resources toward the greatest actual dangers. Don’t you agree?

                You may want to check your numbers again, because the figure you gave appears to be far too low. For red-light running alone, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says that in 2023 there were about 135,000 injuries and more than 1,000 deaths from red-light-running crashes. That means red lights alone would be roughly 1.35 million injuries over a 10-year period, not 165,000.

                Source: https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/red-light-running

                And remember, I was not talking only about red lights. I also mentioned stop signs. When you add stop-controlled intersections, the numbers become even larger. There is not one clean national “running stop signs” number like there is for red-light running, but based on the available crash data, a reasonable estimate is roughly another 100,000 injuries per year connected to stop-sign/stop-controlled intersection crashes, with several thousand deaths depending on how broadly the category is defined.

                So before charging ahead with the “illegal immigrants are the bigger danger” argument, the numbers need to be compared honestly.

                Using the Cato-style estimate from Texas data, undocumented immigrants account for roughly 250–300 homicides per year out of about 18,000 total U.S. homicides.

                You wrote:

                “It’s a reasonable conclusion to think that there were more injuries per capita from illegal aliens than from running red lights over the past decade.”

                That is not right. Put both numbers on the same general-population basis:

                Category    Annual number    Rate per 100,000 U.S. residents
                Red-light-running injuries    135,000    39.7 per 100,000
                Homicides by undocumented immigrants    250–300    0.07–0.09 per 100,000

                So red-light-running injuries occur at roughly 450 to 540 times the general-population rate of homicides attributed to undocumented immigrants.

                Also, your 6% population assumption is too high. Using the commonly accepted estimate of about 11 million undocumented immigrants out of roughly 340 million people in the United States, the undocumented population is about 3.2%, not 6%.

                As for the broader “net positive” question, I have provided several studies supporting my position. You have not provided comparable evidence for yours. Choosing not to read the studies does not make them disappear.

  19. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 4 days ago

    And here I thought things would get worse after the disaster called Noem.

    "Mullin plan to punish sanctuary jurisdictions by targeting their airports faces fierce headwinds"

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/29/politics … ary-cities

  20. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 3 days ago

    FINALLY - A little JUSTICE coming for those wrong by ICE and DHS

    "ICE agent charged in shooting during Minneapolis immigration crackdown is arrested in Texas"

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/29/us/ice-a … s-arrested

  21. Credence2 profile image82
    Credence2posted 47 hours ago

    At least in Britain American leadership which includes Netanyahu is not seen in a positive light. Just adding my two cents…..


    https://www.salon.com/app/uploads/2025/ … 404590.jpg
    https://hubstatic.com/17702077_f1024.jpg

    1. Sharlee01 profile image84
      Sharlee01posted 40 hours agoin reply to this

      Well, the billboard in Britain certainly reflects a negative view of American leadership.

      However, A single billboard demonstrates that some people paid for that message. It does not, by itself, show what the British public as a whole believes. Although I would guess polls would support that a majority of people in the UK dislike Trump, as well as his style of leadership.

      1. Credence2 profile image82
        Credence2posted 39 hours agoin reply to this

        According to my 2 English penpals, this dislike is far more prevelant within their society than otherwise. Rather than the Rightwingers running things as they do here, the percentage of people who cling to conservatism à la Trump is just a small radical faction. You spoke with Arthur of Britain regarding this before and he made it quite clear and is in a position to know more about it than we on this side of the pond……

        I doubt that you could ever see a billboard like that here, Trump would be in a hurry to sue.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image84
          Sharlee01posted 25 hours agoin reply to this

          I'm not sure what, if anything, would be done if a billboard depicted a president in the manner of the one you shared. What I do know is that I've witnessed daily personal insults directed at President Trump from the media, comedians, and even members of Congress. Trump has responded with lawsuits in some cases, and he has actually won several of them.

          As for what people in the UK think of Trump, I have no argument there. As I shared in my last comment, I fully agree that Arthur is far more attuned than I am to the views of the general population in the UK. I have no reason to dispute his perspective on that point.  I have had a look at a few polls, and they show a majority dislikes Trump.

      2. peterstreep profile image82
        peterstreepposted 21 hours agoin reply to this

        The UK has a long tradition of political satire. Have you heard of Spitting Image, or Monty Python for example?
        So seeing a billboard like this in the UK is not so strange. Ultimately, there is freedom of speech in the UK.

        If you're going into politics, I think you have to accept that you'll be the subject of comedians' jokes. I have a feeling that Trump finds this personally difficult, given that he has threatened comedians who have openly mocked him, like Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert.

        To be honest, it's a cultural thing. I once attended a stand-up comedy show in London, and although the comedian was Jewish, I found the jokes she made about WWII quite shocking. It's clear that the UK had a completely different experience with the war then the main land. As my grandfather, who was Jewish, had to hide from the Germans, WWII is much closer to home for me and not something that can easily be made fun of.
        I guess every country has its own humour connected to its culture.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image84
          Sharlee01posted 15 hours agoin reply to this

          I think that's a very fair point. Political satire has a much longer and more established tradition in the UK than many people outside the country realize, so something like that billboard is probably viewed very differently there than it would be elsewhere.

          I also agree that anyone who enters politics is going to become a target for comedians, cartoonists, and satirists. That's been true for politicians across the political spectrum for a very long time.

          Your point about humor being cultural is an important one as well. What one country finds funny, another may find uncomfortable or even offensive because of different historical experiences. I can certainly understand why jokes about WWII would hit differently for someone whose family was directly affected by it.

          At the end of the day, in my view, every culture develops its own sense of humor, and understanding that context helps explain why people can react so differently to the same joke.

  22. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 107 minutes ago

    "Newark officials threaten more legal action if they don’t get access to Delaney Hall"

    Boy, things must be really bad inside that what is in effect a concentration camp if they are fighting this hard to keep inspections out.

    Have you heard of any of these facilities having humane living conditions? I haven't.

    So far we have been successful in keeping one of these sick places out of my county. You should have heard the horror stories that came out at the county commissioner's meetings. Wow, was our sheriff really pissed off seeing some windfall profits to himself disappear. He about cried when his proposal was rebuffed.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/02/us/delan … ts-tuesday

 
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