Sooner, you never did tell us your score on the quiz? (Unless I missed it.)
I think non-homophobic is 50. so I'm one point homophobic. But after this thread I feel more homophobic than when I took the test.
Sooner, I think you've misinterpreted you score. I think 51 indicates you're off the chart homophobic. The lower the score the less homophobic, the higher the score the more homophobic. I'm not sure where the breakpoints are. My score was 8 which rated me non-homophobic.
Its public, homosexuality. What makes a couple homosexual or heterosexual is... sexual activity. I'm getting a little worn out by your laziness and reverting to name calling. I'm getting a little tired by you prejudice behavior and tagging me as some animal that I am not. Lets talk about the act that separates you from I. I feel that is a tad primal. Did you always know that you preffered men to women. Was it lustful, confusing, natural, what? educate me so that I am not such a beast.
did you ever have internal feelings of guilt? Did you ever feel it was not natural? Did you ever have sanitation problems? Did you hide your activities and preferences for any reason?
cut off was 50, I toyed around with it. I scored a 51. So I would be neutral with one less point.
One answer that probably would make me a "homophobic" dealt with a gay room mate. I had that experience once while I was in the field and the guy brought along a gym bag full of plastic heads with hair so he could practice braiding and cutting their hair for his boyfriends salon. He would comb and just pet the head for hours on end. Talking on the phone, combing hair. Sitting on the bed reading a book,combing hair. It was weird and I don't think I would ever have another gay room mate for any period of time.
When I canged that one question to neutral it put me at 46 and "non-homophobic". You said your score was 8. That not only means that you are not "homophobic" but you might have a male companion? best of wishes.
So - you like it up the bum now then? Good for you. I knew you were that way inclined and I am sure jeebus will be OK with it. He Seems A Very Forgiving Fellow.
I wish you well in your new relationships. Very well done. At last - I knew you would be the first to come out.
livelonger - you owe me $10.
No, I'm still homophobic. I tampered with the test to see where I would land. Sorry, we can't go out still.
livelonger- just give me the $10.
I scored a 6. What does that mean according to you sooner?
I am happy to love a gay people! I do not judge people by they orientation. Gay or straig-still people
Man this is all getting a bit silly. I mean, I would have thought that the only people obsessed with those times when a man's, well, organ, comes into closer-than-normal proximity to another man would be homosexual men... not evangelicals
(and I realize there are gay women too, but allow me some comedic licence)
clarifying...
my post was in addition to my post to JBeadle.
Scored a 12- high-grade non-homophobic, whoopee! Seriously, people should just get a life. Who cares what two consenting adults decide to engage in sexually or whom they choose to share their life or love with. You think it's immoral? Let God sort it out. He's highly more qualified.
Since we're discussing the word "phobia",
I believe it actually means having an UNREASONABLE or for no reason or an EXCESSIVE fear of something....am I right about that?
And since the subject of "tolerance" and "judgement" goes along with this topic,
It seems pretty evident to me that it's intolerant of liberals to judge what's "fearful" or "reasonable" in the minds of conservatives.
Many people, including me, have reason to "fear" the legalization of homosexual acts, whether it's a fear of what our children will hear labeled as "right", or whether we just plain feel threatened by what we view as immorality being shouted from the political rooftops.
So I'd be interested in knowing what it is that HETEROPHOBES think they have to be afraid of from straight people, the average straight person anyway, not those who spout hate words and direct insults to the person and not the act of homosexuality. Is it straight people they're afraid of, or is it their consciences, ...is it perhaps God they're afraid of?
The problem is that half of what you say makes sense -- it is a legitimate concern to worry about what your children hear as being labelled as 'right', in general... and that half of what you say sounds like it comes from the Planet Zargon. Who are these heterophobes... I mean, unless you mean those gay people who have been beaten up for their sexuality by straight people... there are a LOT of those
1. Not ALL conservatives are against gay rights.
2. It seems to me YOU should be afraid of *your* "God" for judging so harshly His children. Since He warned you against doing this. Check your Bible out maybe - it mentions gays about 2-3 times and doesn't condem it nearly to the level you say it does. Prove me wrong. Quote from the Bible. Do you fear for the souls of thieves? Or adulterers? Or liars? Have you lied? Ever? What happened to God's forgiveness? Isn't your God the guy who drowns babies? I can't believe in such a shallow God that drowns babies and sends gay people to hell.
*sigh* I think I'm done here. Why even bother on these threads. I'm sure you are a loving caring woman Brenda Durham, trying to do your best. If your image of God is correct. I'd rather burn in hell.
I'd rather you didn't. I would ask you to give that decision a second look. But in the end that's between you and God.
I have a feelling you'll be quite remorseful when you meet your maker for having such a narrow view on people who don't see things your way and God will embrace you for it. People aren't perfect, eh? The God I know exists loves us all, even people I can't understand why He would. Even the worst of mankind. Loves us all equally. Of this I'm sure. And I'm going to stick with that belief over yours until the day I die. I'm ready to meet my maker with my decisions and reasoning. I do judge though but on a person's merits and not their skin color, nor sexual preferences. I don't think people who hold your view are evil or bad... it is usually a matter of upbringing and comfort zones. Most of the people who I know who are like you are very nice people. Most of my in-laws are conservatives and very nice people. Most of them are in the "I don't care about gay people as long as they keep it out of my face" park now, which is an improvement from about ten years ago when they were in the "gay people are perverts and pedophiles" boat. I don't like all gay people but the one's I don't like, I don't like because they are jerks - not because they are gay.
That was really funny, JBeadle. Always a fan of a good bit of sarcasm.
That was not sarcasm. It was genuine. The Brenda's of the world feel they are protecting the ones they love at their core. This I do believe. I bet Brenda doesn't run down gay people in her car, for example. Or spits on them, etc.
You haven't read enough of her posts. She might not be violent towards gay people, but she most certainly is not motivated by love at all.
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you'd just get desensitized to it after a while anyway
Not sure why I bite on these forums. It seems to turn preachy. I'm just another person wondering what existence is all about. Many questions and no real answers. I try to use logic to get by... granted "my logic". I don't know Brenda Durham and skip over a lot of what she writes but I know a lot of people who talk like her and they aren't "bad" people. That's all I guess I'm really saying. My wife didn't care for gay people when we met and I was mean to overweight people. We've both grown up a lot since then.
By "like her" you should mean "are constantly amused by her."
"I don't like pale skin. I find it aesthetically displeasing to see the veins under someone's skin. I would not however, make a big deal about it, and if I did, it wouldn't surprise me if someone were to label me a racist."
HM! Me pale face! <-- insert chief voice.
I thought you would be satisfied with the way the public has reacted to this issue Livelonger. I think everyone kept it peaceful.
Certainly a nonviolent denial of equal rights is better than a violent one. But it's still an injustice, one that is on its way to being ended.
I wish you all the hapiness in the world. Please accept my hand in a modest end to our differences.
Thank you. Now I'm off to make some dinner. Good night all. Sooner
Are you relating being gay to someone who is loud, parties all the time and is a nuisance?
Being gay isn't a lifestyle. It is who someone is.
(ahem)pssst, Cole. I think they are one in the same..being 'you' is a lifestyle.
Being who you are affects your lifestyle. Sure. But to me they are different. Lifestyle is the way a person lives not who a person is. Although one dictates the other.
Well, how about this?...if you mean labeling someone as a lifestyle such as...you are gay, straight, black, female...then no...they are not one in the same because everyone is different no matter what CATEGORY you might fall under. BUT, I think each individual can create his or her own unique lifestyle that nobody else can duplicate...
And sorry, I was just making a statement. I actually didn't read any of the other pervious posts, so I have no idea what your conversation is pertaining to.
i thought it was called homosexual lifestyle or alternative lifestyle?
i just wonder why God hates homosexuals, since we are all "his children". that would be like a human parent hating his son if he were gay. it's kind of sad that imperfect humans can love their gay child yet a perfect God can't.
Yeah dre I know what you're saying. And it wasn't really a conversation that you missed, I just kinda made a comment. I think when it comes to homosexuals people judge their "lifestyle" and say it is their "lifestyle" that they disagree with. But being gay is a part of who you are which dictates your "lifestyle" so people are disagree with them as people. Which is ridiculous. I dunno if that makes sense, just how I see it
yeah, it would be like saying...You're female...I hate your lifestyle! Which is ridiculous!
(whispers) which is what I truly believe. I hate women's lifestyles...
Haha well I love my lifestyle...
Being a guy... no thanks.
Well i love sports and beer. (girls don't fart)
Not all men are rude and obnoxious.
And I think about men 24/7.
So no, I'm happy being a woman
I am proud to be high grade non-homophobic! I think the debate over homosexuality is pointless. Compassion and understanding treatment of each other - all of us - is the goal of any thinking, caring human - so stop looking at color, gender, and all that - start seeing PEOPLE when you look at others, treat them like you want to be treated,and you'll also feel better about yourself - that's my final say on this subject. really.
Proud to be high grade non-homophobic! So glad to not be someone whose life is so uninteresting that I must involve myself in policing the lives of others!
Here's a guy who flunked the test--Garth Maier of WTEK-NBC in Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cZFKNLs … r_embedded
http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/NBCTAKEACTION
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