Show Respect in All You Do ~ Through Poetry by John Hansen

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  1. Misbah786 profile image84
    Misbah786posted 13 months ago

    Please read John's response to Brenda's word prompt, 'Respect,' which is very interesting and full of wisdom. Excellent work!

    Here's the link: … All-You-Do

    Thanks a lot!!

    1. ChitrangadaSharan profile image91
      ChitrangadaSharanposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Hello John!
      Beautiful thoughts expressed in your poem, based on 'Respect,' and you have skillfully covered various aspects, in your well crafted poem.
      I especially liked, how you have started the article, to emphasize the meaning of mutual respect. Not revealing the name of a fellow writer, who thinks differently is a good example of showing 'respect.'
      Whoever that person is, will definitely understand now, that everyone's works and efforts must be respected.
      Great response and thanks for sharing.
      Thank you Misbah for highlighting this in the forum.

      1. Jodah profile image92
        Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Hello Chitrangada, thank you for reading and for the lovely and insightful comment. I felt it appropriate to share that other comment as part of this topic. Take care,

    2. vidsagster profile image89
      vidsagsterposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the valuable input about your writing process John. I do the same but not on paper. The final result is totally different from the initial draft. I beg to differ regarding word prompts. Brenda is doing a great job, giving us these word prompts. We take it as a challenge, not at all as spoon feeding. It's so much fun to read the different responses of the writers. It keeps the creative juices flowing. Having said that, each person is entitled to his or her opinion. To participate or not is each individual's choice. The spirit of camaraderie is important here.
      I loved your poems John. You are truly gifted. And the quotes are so relevant. Have a great week ahead. Thanks Misbah dear for sharing John's work.

      1. Jodah profile image92
        Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Vidya, thank you for your valued input and comments. Occasionally i will forgo using a notebook and even a word program…if something is clear in my head…I will occasionally write it directly on HubPages. If I do that I later think “how silly, I don’t have a back up copy” and then have to copy and paste it back as a word file in my documents.
        I am glad you enjoyed my poems and the included quotes. Have a great week.

  2. Jodah profile image92
    Jodahposted 13 months ago

    That was quick, my friend! Thank you for sharing, and for your kind words.

    1. Misbah786 profile image84
      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      It's always a pleasure to share your work smile

    2. surovi99 profile image84
      surovi99posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Hi John, I am mesmerized once again by your poetry on Brenda's prompt, "Respect." I especially loved the way how your initial drafts differ from the final ones. Not only the valuable quotes you use in your article teach us a lot about respect but also your fabulous poetry offer a lot for learning.

      Thank you, Misbah, for sharing John's work.

      1. Jodah profile image92
        Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Rosina, I really appreciate your generous comment. I am pleased that my poetry offers some valuable lessi=ons too. thank you so much.

    3. Carb Diva profile image96
      Carb Divaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      John, that you for taking the time to respond to Brenda's prompt and to share a bit of your creative process with us. We are not all the same—each of us is an individual made up of countless influences and experiences. No two of us think or act (or write) alike; we all have different values, but in one way we are alike—we are all God's children worthy of respect.

      1. Jodah profile image92
        Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Hello Linda, yes we were all created different and isn’t our uniqueness a wonderful thing? Much better than having been created to be a bunch of clones. We all have our own writing processes that work for us and no way is the right or wrong way.
        We are free to like or not like certain things but as long as we respect others differing ways and opinions life goes on happily.
        Thank you for your wise words.

  3. Misbah786 profile image84
    Misbah786posted 13 months ago

    John, I enjoyed reading your beautiful poems and all of your thoughts. It's very thoughtful and respectful of you to keep that friend's identity hidden. It's sad that someone sees it that way. But we are all unique individuals with different viewpoints, and the most difficult lesson I have learned in my life is that you cannot make everyone happy and satisfied. smile

    I believe the following stanza from one of your poems should be pinned on forums somewhere.

    " If their English isn't perfect

    please help, not put them down.

    Try writing in their native tongue -

    I'm sure you'll be the clown."

    My friend, you did a fantastic job. I respect and appreciate you greatly.

    Kind regards and Blessings! smile

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      smile thank you.

      1. Misbah786 profile image84
        Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

        You are always welcome! smile

  4. billybuc profile image88
    billybucposted 13 months ago

    Aretha's voice is in the background as I wish you a very Happy Saturday.  I loved reading about your "process," and I loved that someone questioned you about needing prompts....that's like questioning Hemingway on why he needed to live by the sea, or questioning Faulkner on his need to experience the life he wrote about.  Some people will never, ever understand the creative process, but thank the gods you do.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks Bill, for your constant support and encouragement. As soon as I saw this prompt I thought about using Aretha’s song to accompany my response. You are right that some people will never understand creative process, even though we are all different.

  5. Gianella Labrador profile image85
    Gianella Labradorposted 13 months ago

    Always show some respect to this man^^^. Lovely poem John. My problem with drafts is usually when I fell asleep upon writing it. The momentum fades away and I forgot what I was writing about. My three recent articles were backlogs that I had fallen asleep onto. I had difficulty writing it back on track but glad I gained focus to finish it before I completely lose it and throw it in dump.

    I agree that prompts are not usually like an assignment given in elementary. It's more of something the HP community look forward to each week to challenge themselves or as for others have new responses to read. It is also an opportunity to talk about the responses of fellow authors and what can we learn from it. Every responses differs. Sometimes we get a whole new turn and twist of the word prompt that we would never expect. A new perspective and an out of the box idea of responding to a certain word prompt.

    It also enhances the skill of writers. Like a brain exercise to keep it functioning and going. As we age, challenges like this one can help as a lot in ways that we don't become forgetful in the future and our brains don't get rusty. It's something that we must do to make it function well.

    Use it before it breaks just when you needed it most.

    I believe its best to think and put our minds and focus on challenges like this, rather thinking about the problems and challenges of the world and then stressing ourselves out. Some would waste their time and energy politicizing everything and then trolling everyone around the world.
    Stop wasting your time on anger and too much hate.

    Focus more on something productive and will benefit you on the long run. Like joining challenges that will also enhance your skill as a writer or whatever or however it helps.

    Continue to be kind and show some respect. Respect those who deserve it and has earned it. Not by status, not by race, not by gender, not by age. If they don't respect you, teach them what respect means and how's it like to RESPECT. Not telling disrespect them too but show them maybe that way they'll respect you next time.

    Respect people who respects you too.
    In everything that you do, always ask for prayers and guidance.
    If they don't respect you, just tell them what respect is. They must know the difference.

    Regards to everyone.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you Gianella. Your comment was very insightful as always and I enjoy reading your thoughts (all of which I agree with.) We all need to share respect in all we do.

  6. Brenda Arledge profile image81
    Brenda Arledgeposted 13 months ago

    Thank you for showing Respect for these word prompts.

    Your anonymous friend is certainly allowed to have his opinion, but in my book, prompts help to inspire us.

    It's not that we don't have thoughts of our own, it's that these prompts help to give us a refreshing break.

    They take us on another journey where we can have a bit of fun along the way.

    It helps to get away from our normal routine & inspires our Creativity to become better Writer's.

    We've all seen your work firsthand and can attest that You can Write on Anything.  It's a very inspirational Gift and I'm glad you share your words with the world.

    Perfect quote by Geoffrey Ocaya.

    Your poem, "Respect"  shows us how we need to show respect for everyone around us as well as nature.

    If we have respect for others, it will come back to us.

    Thanks for sharing your writing process with us.
    Most of the time I revise mine on my mobile phone which keeps a history of each draft & time written.
    When I scribble my words out on the page as you have, I often have a hard time reading my own writing.

    Your's seems quite elegant & legible.

    I love the way you wrote "RESPECTFUL ~ An Acrostic Poem."  Each short crisp word gives this one a strong impact.

    Sometimes respect goes out the window & people believe in lies instead.

    The quote in your photo of Proverbs 12:25 is wonderful for this piece
    ~ When worry weighs a person down, an encouraging word cheers a person up.
    Proverbs 12:25

    "Show Respect For Fellow Writers" reminds us that we all write about things that touch our own hearts & we should respect one another's work.

    I love that part about trying to write in the language of others.

    I'm certain my words wouldn't make much sense to them.

    A point we all need to remember as we read work from others around the globe.

    Great writing on these. 

    I'll post a link in the word prompt article.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Hi Brenda, thank you for your wonderful analysis and generous words. Oh, that was a really bad example of my handwriting. If I am taking my time and writing something that I want to keep I am very neat, when I am jotting down notes and first drafts I write fast and very messy. I am hopeless trying to type on a phone.
      My friend's comment just shows that not everyone sees things the same way. Fortunately, there are enough of us who are like-minded in regard to the appreciation of writing prompts. I am glad you enjoyed these poems and quotes. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

  7. Peggy W profile image96
    Peggy Wposted 13 months ago

    Leave it to John to reply to Brenda's prompt in a number of ways.  Good job!  I also enjoyed your thought process on how you begin your poems, and how they end.  Aretha's song is the perfect ending to the word "Respect."  Thanks Misbah for bringing more attention to John's work.  It is always a pleasure to read.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you for always reading and appreciating my work, Peggy. My writing process has evolved from before computers even existed, but I still use a notebook for my drafts. Take care.

  8. RozlinMohsin profile image61
    RozlinMohsinposted 13 months ago

    Hi, John. I enjoyed reading your hub and all your poems. I liked the first poem and also the way you write your poems, draft in notebook and then in your word program. I learnt a lot from your hub about giving respect to others. Commendable hub.
    Take care.
    Blessings always.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Hi, Rozlin. I am pleased that you found this hub both enjoyable and informative. Thank you for taking the time to read it, and blessings to you.

  9. Pamela99 profile image90
    Pamela99posted 13 months ago

    Your poems have excelled in your response to Brenda's prompt, John. Your poems are terrific. You have shown us respect in a variety of ways. I enjoyed reading each poem, John.

    Thanks for posting John's excellent poems, Misbah.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you, Pamela. I searched for inspiration for the first poem and it took a while to come to me, but I felt it was too basic, so expanded on it. Once I finished it I had more ideas for additional poems. I am happy you felt they worked. Much appreciated.

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    Vladimir Karasposted 13 months ago

    Hey, John, old buddy, there was no need to hide my name. There was also no need to present my personal dislikes as my "disrespect". By disliking something, I can still respect the creative efforts of the writers. I dislike much in our cultural paradigm -- and if anybody here on this website had guts to say it openly, it was me -- but we are all individuals with different tastes, and I have always been enough of an individualist to respect our individual differences.
    So, I'll let you guys wrestle a little with this distinction between dislikes and disrespect.
    Yes, I do dislike the concept of "prompts". It's a kind of reverse from the one before, when writers where giving you a word on base of which you were creating your poems.
    But my not liking it is never a signal for anyone to stop doing it -- no one needs my blessing, I am not a normative dude, let everyone have their own style.
    Talking about respect -- I have no words to describe my respect for my always saying openly what I think, without kissing anyone's butt, without any sugarcoating.
    Imagine, I also dare to call it a virtue.
    I love you all, guys, and there is no trace of that ass-kissing, which I hate with passion, in this statement. I think you are fine human beings and please, keep expressing your disagreements with me, it's only natural and human. But, for Pete's sake, don't mix dislikes with disrespects -- as little as I care how others choose to misread me.
    By the way, hey, Misbah dear, I don't like your being so sweet and so religious, but I think that you have one of the most noble souls that one can come across.
    Also, by the way, I have deleted all of my poems AGAIN -- over hundred of them -- playing now with editing my articles. More fun and challenge there. Only one a day, because my other, more important activities, need that time. I think I am growing out of poetry altogether.
    Now you know my plans. Ain't I a true friend sharing them with you? LOL

    1. Brenda Arledge profile image81
      Brenda Arledgeposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      It sounds to me like you are having a bad day which surprises me.

      You are usually content with making your own happiness and you don't let things bring you down.

      At least that's an opinion I've formed over the years.

      So why delete your poems?

      The ones I've had time to read speak volumes and were quite good, but you have the right to do whatever you want.

      I am surprised at this comment:

      To me, it’s almost like an insult to the writer’s intelligence, who is so “dry” in his head that he needs to be “prompted”.

      Believe me, this is so far away from the truth. 

      Sometimes we have so much in our heads that it helps to get away from that train of thought for awhile.
      To get refreshed.

      To remember that Writing is fun.

      You can message me anytime with your concerns. 
      I consider you my friend and always enjoy your banter.

      And as your friend, I will tell you I dislike how you said that to Sweet Misbah.

      She is a Noble Soul who deserves respect.

      There's no need to say you dislike her sweetness or her being religious, even if you do feel that way.

      I believe we should use kind or polite words even if we are upset or disagree.

      It's such a waste of time to hurt others...intentionally or unintentionally.

      When you face the idea of death each day, you learn the value of a moment.

      I hope you'll reconsider and keep writing & toss that stubborn side away.

      It doesn't suit enjoy living life & learning new things.

      Take care My Friend.

      1. Misbah786 profile image84
        Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Thank you so much, Bredz. You are a very respectable and loving friend. Much Appreciated!! smile

        Stay Blessed and Happy

  11. Jodah profile image92
    Jodahposted 13 months ago

    Val, I wasn't insinuating disrespect from you for anyone else's work, but out of respect chose not to reveal your identity. I have respect for you for doing that however, and I felt sure that if you read this you would. as I said, I respected your opinion to dislike word prompts. If I have mixed up your dislike as disrespect I apologise for that.
    I am sure editing your articles will be an interesting project. Thanks for sharing.

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    Vladimir Karasposted 13 months ago

    John -- we are O.K.

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      wink cheers Val

  13. Gianella Labrador profile image85
    Gianella Labradorposted 13 months ago

    Glad you found my thoughts insightful John. Most often I'd think of my thoughts that deep as just brain farts not really regarding it as insightful LoL. 

    Keep Safe John.

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    Vladimir Karasposted 13 months ago

    Brenda, my friend -- For some reason unknown to me, you only saw the first part of my message to our friend Misbah, as if ignoring the other part where I said that "she has a noble soul that is not easy to come across". The "sweetness" that I am mentioning is something that on this Feed is generally bound to cause some "mental diabetes", as if the whole thing is turning into a group therapy.
    So, I understand the major shock when someone dares to "dislike" something -- for a change of the taste.
    But anyway, I am done with my poetizing -- not out of a "stubbornness", but because I don't see much challenge there. For, here's my "quickly composed" last example of it, sending a message to all of you poets.

    Using word as your basic tool
    go ahead and express yourself
    without being some impatient fool
    to notice it in some library's top shelf.

    Write about meadows sprinkled with daisies
    write about love and all pains of the heart
    write about politicians or other crazies
    never worrying if you sound smart.

    No matter what -- be who you are
    whether you don't impress critic's eye
    or some day you become the poetry star
    allow your pen to laugh -- and allow it to cry.

    You see what I mean? "Instant poetry", and I could write a dozen in a day, just like you could, with the only difference that I don't see enough in mine to keep doing it. Tastes and challenges -- remember?

    My kids call me a "friend that they could never find another alike" -- as they learned that true friends are not always using white lies and pep-talk.
    "Among the best medicines are those that taste bitter".
    All the best to you, my friend, and to all poetry lovers.

    1. Misbah786 profile image84
      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Lol! Mental Diabetes.
      Just telling you, Mr Val, you said we should write on topics something like heartache, I dare if ever I would write such things stories/poems your eyes will well up with tears, so don't demand that. Let us play some upbeat chords in this orchestra and enjoy the lyrics..

      No one in this world is free of pain, so why not bring smiles on each others' face. smile

    2. Brenda Arledge profile image81
      Brenda Arledgeposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      I did catch all of it, but it just came across as a bit harsh.
      Misbah is a gentle soul whose feelings can get hurt...I think saying she is a noble soul is quite need to criticize her spirit by stating that she's too Sweet or overly religious.
      Accept her just the way she is..sweetness & all.

      Like I said...your poetry is great as you have once again shown us.

      We should let the ink cry & laugh without worry of publication getting dusty on  a shelf.

      I believe you are one of a kind...a reason I like you myself.
      You think out of the box much like I do.

      Keep smiling & writing if the moment comes upon you.

      Enjoy each moment of this life.

      Your friend....
      Just me

  15. Farah N Huq profile image84
    Farah N Huqposted 13 months ago

    Couldn’t agree more with all that you had to say in those lines! Loved ‘em! Thank you for sharing, John! My blessings for you always!

    1. Jodah profile image92
      Jodahposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Hello Farah, I am pleased that you agree with everything I said in my poems. I do feel we are very like-minded so that is no surprise smile Thank you for reading and blessings back to you.

  16. Misbah786 profile image84
    Misbah786posted 13 months ago

    By the way, hey, Misbah dear, I don't like your being so sweet and so religious, but I think that you have one of the most noble souls that one can come across.

    Dear Mr. Val, I don't mind if you dislike me because I'm religious and sweet. I know both are endearing qualities, and if someone don't like them, it doesn't matter much because there are many who appreciate it. smile

    As I previously stated, it is impossible to please everyone. It's completely impossible and I have no intention of making you believe that my sweetness and religious views are something you should value..
    I've felt your dislike on forums numerous times, but I also remember receiving a very sweet fanmail from you via email. So I never forget someone's good deeds.

    When I read John's hub, I was completely sure this was said by you. Please forgive me, but I believe you could have said all of this to Brenda via email. She's been so nice to you, sharing your work on forums and being the first person to start following you when you returned. As a friend she doesn't deserve what she received. Again just my thoughts. You can disagree.

    I don't often leave comments on your work, but I do read them. I don't make a comment because I don't like criticism that isn't constructive. You should be pleased with your work; trust me, everything will be fine. Nothing needs to be deleted. The source of peace is always within. May God continue to bless you.

    Cheer up, Mr. Val. smile

    Stay blessed and happy.

    1. Brenda Arledge profile image81
      Brenda Arledgeposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks Misbah...
      It's nice to know you have my back & never hesitate to email me if you need to set me straight or question anything.

      We can't please everyone, but what's important is if we can look at ourselves in the mirror with no regret.

      Take care

      1. Misbah786 profile image84
        Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks a million, Bredz. You too take care and keep smiling. smile

        Blessings and Love as always!!

  17. Jodah profile image92
    Jodahposted 13 months ago

    In hindsight, I have to consider whether I would have written my article differently, and left out the first capsule, or at least reworded it. I have to take ownership for any misunderstanding created. Honest debate is good, but I don't like feeling as though what I wrote is a catalyst to any ill-feeling or upset between my friends.

    I guess it is always best to get things out in the open, so opinions can be aired, and everyone can move on. Anyway, once things are written and have been read there is no taking it back. Hopefully, we can all chill and continue respectfully.

    1. Misbah786 profile image84
      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Nothing you did was wrong, John. smile whatever happened Let bygones be bygones. I am sorry for the responses I made but I seriously didn't understand why I was dragged into the situation. Anyways, let it go. smile

      Let's just Chill and Relax.

    2. Brenda Arledge profile image81
      Brenda Arledgeposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      No worries.   We're all good.

      Being open and upfront are great qualities.   You are a man of virtue.

      I'm not the type to let things hinder my day.  There's just too much living to do.

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    Vladimir Karasposted 13 months ago

    To all hurt and disappointed people here --- When I mentioned my kids back there (now a man and a woman in their fifties) I tried to make it clear that we can love / like someone which doesn't mean that we automatically have to like everything they do. My wife and I have never had an argument in 57 years, but that love and respect doesn't obligate us to like everything the other is doing.
    When people get hurt because appeasing language is the only one on the schedule of this Feed -- and I can smell hurting miles away despite the diplomatic smoothening -- something is wrong.
    And trust me, it's not my mood, my having a bad day, my slipping from my notoriously steady happiness. I'm happy as a lark, not need to chill -- and,  being this "pervert" lover of truth, and-nothing-but-the-truth, I was simply saying what I saw as true.
    And it has nothing to do with "not being able to please everybody" -- we all know that truism. It has something to do with the fact that nobody else on this Feed is talking religion, so it's an objective fact -- not my personal dislike as the main theme here.
    Dear Misbah, I never said I didn't like "you" -- I said I didn't like talking religion here, because -- logically, everyone has their own. I am an agnostic, by the way, so to me it's the same if someone talks Islam or Christianity, or Santa Claus, so I have absolutely nothing against your particular religion.
    And being all just imperfect human beings, we simply don't sound true when we appear to "sweetly love and like everything" what everybody says.
    At this age of 77, and after having read over thousand non-fiction books on human nature -- I simply can't buy it.
    And then, that sweetness is not only yours to be noticed, but everyone on this Feed is giving me a taste which I quit with quitting sugar. 
    For the last words here, let me tell you something of a big paradox -- I honestly think that, by saying all this, I am being more of a friend to all of you than if I joined you with this unnatural mutual appeasing.
    And hey, not everything can be squeezed under the umbrella of "We all have our own tastes, so you, Val, are entitled to your own opinion."
    As for "cheer up, Val" -- I honestly wish everybody got at least a little taste of this calm and composure that I feel while writing all this.
    I love you, guys -- but it takes some thinking to notice being loved other than by constant compliments and praises.
    Whether you see it or not, this has actually been a good, constructive discussion. And I am pretty much done here.

    1. Misbah786 profile image84
      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Mr. Val I can't exactly recall when I discussed religion with you. If I discuss religion with anyone else, it could be on any forum that falls under a specific category. To be clear once again, I don't recall ever discussing religion with you. Yes, my closing words in the majority of the comments are Blessings and Best wishes; I hope no one minds that. I mean who can mind a blessing or best wishes. Whatever you said before was about everyone as a writer/poet; it was harsh on everyone's soul, but now you're making personal attacks. With all due respects, I hope you know the difference. smile

    2. Misbah786 profile image84
      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      One more thing Mr. Val if you are disturbed with any of my articles I have written about religion and you don't agree with it simply don't read it, ignore it like many of us do. Just to make clear all of my writings are backed up with good reliable resources that can't be questioned. I respect each and everyone's religion. I respect atheists and agnostics as well. We should act like grown up individuals and respect is always reciprocal. My simple rule in life is if you can't say good about others then just avoid saying bad too.

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    Vladimir Karasposted 13 months ago

    Misbah -- Now I like you more when you also "don't like" something, even if it is -- what you interpreted as my "personal attacks". Good for you, keep blasting me, I obviously don't deserve any of that patterned sweetness.
    Of course, just like sugar, sweetness is addictive, and my yapping won't make a dent on this Feed practice. So, it's fine with me, I didn't expect it to stop, just wanted to say what I thought.
    No, you and I never discussed religion, maybe we should some day, on emails, not here. I just love telling religious folks how all their "reliable sources" are also coming from humans, not from a celestial entity who appeared in someone's living, room and got photographed to provide all the proofs.
    Here, I gave you another, fresh reason to dislike me. Please. tell me that I don't know what I am talking about, because all those sources are credible.
    But if you do, be ready for my response -- what makes them "credible" is only our willingness to believe.
    Oh, I'd better find that "Stop" button in my mind, before you really lose patience with me and start calling me names. I am kidding, you can't lower yourself to that level.
    And again, dear Misbah, you are one of the rare examples with a glowing soul, and I respect you for that -- it's just that I don't like some things, that's all. But then, who really cares what I don't like -- and I am perfectly fine with such a final assessment.
    All the best to you, my far away angry friend.

    1. Misbah786 profile image84
      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Mr. Val, who am I to be angry with you? You are simply expressing your thoughts, to which I am patiently listening. You're right, I can't, and I'm not willing to lower myself to that level. I'm not sure why you said all of that to me. I have no intentions to discuss religion with you on HubPages or via email. Sir, that is simply not worth it. We wouldn't be discussing this issue on this forum if you truly respected me as a friend or as a fellow author. You could have emailed me with all of your concerns. That would be a different story. If you don't like what I'm doing, you can always unfollow me.

      That doesn't hurt me, and following me isn't something you have to do. So go ahead and do it. I've always admired you as a person and as a fellow author. You're 77 years old, and I'm 29. I'm not feeling well enough to argue with you. You must have seen a lot in your life, but so have I. It is never your age that causes you to mature; it is always the evolution of your soul. There aren't many people here who are aware of it, but since you're criticizing me and my thoughts on religion so much, I must tell you I lost my brother about 7 months ago. He was only 21 years old. Some of the fellow writers know about that. I didn't tell that to everyone here because my pain has nothing to do with anyone plus I don't like to share negative vibes. I am still in recovery process . Writing on HubPages has always been a Therapeutic experience for me. It's a hobby to keep myself distracted.

      I don't come here to criticize others, or even to hear criticism from others.

      Stay blessed, Sir, and be careful with your words because you never know what someone is going through.

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    Vladimir Karasposted 13 months ago

    Misbah -- On the other hand, and it's good to always have that "other hand", please don't mind my yapping, and if it sounds anything like Val's style of apologizing, it's because that's what it is. I treat others as I treat myself, with the only difference that in my case that self-discipline has made me a very happy person. And then I see that others get sometimes hurt by straight talk, and I have to "clean my act".

    Brenda -- You are a wonderful friend, but since you are very religious yourself, you are NOT thinking out of the box like me -- because religion is IN the box.
    However, it's nice to read all these things you are saying about me, no one is completely immune to compliments.
    Well, I don't think there is anything more left for me to be said, so here I go about my own daily business. Be well, my friend.

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      Misbah786posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Take care, Mr. Val.


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