To Foreign Hubbers - What are your opinions about President Trump?

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  1. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 8 years ago

    Donald Trump has been President for 14 days now.  In that time he has issued around 14 executive orders, most of which impact the world.

    The American polls show over 50% of America think Trump is doing a poor jobs.

    What is your opinion?

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      TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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      1. Credence2 profile image79
        Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Tess, I saw the video and hear the clarion call. Never in the history of the American Presidency has anyone started with so high a level of dissaproval. It is the canary in the coal mine, while conservatives excuse his behavior as one would pick up behind the droppings of an animal.

        I fear for our democracy as Trump, under so much dissaproval will strike out against it in an unorthodox fashion.

        1. Paul Wingert profile image60
          Paul Wingertposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          When you say "President Trump", you're showing respect to the useless POS orange man-baby.

          1. Credence2 profile image79
            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            That is what he is, President Trump. Within the confines of the current system that I agree to work within, that is who is is. My job is to make that title no longer descriptive of him, sooner rather than later.

      2. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        My twitter hashtag for Trump is #NoMandateTrump

    2. colorfulone profile image76
      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I only see 8 EO's on the People's House website. 
      Where did you get 14?
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … ive-orders

      There's sure to be more, and there needs to be.

    3. CHRIS57 profile image61
      CHRIS57posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There were few jokes about fromer president Obama, but apparently Mr. Trump is easy prey for European media now.
      http://everysecondcounts.eu/

      Not quite easy to identify here in Europe: Has the whole Trumposarcastica to be linked to long time political framing by the liberal international (you know wording like "humanitarian wars"), or has it to be attributed to Mr. Trump himself and his team.
      Personally i would like to give him a chance, but then: political framing attempts by the Trump administration are dilletant and silly (alternative facts, what is that?)  On one hand, lobbyism has a break, on the other hand Mr. Trump invites all kind money people into his staff. In Russia with much less wealth to spread, this would be called oligarchy, in the US it called "giving the power to the people". 
      Anyhow I tend to give him the first 100 days, there are simply too few results and facts. You canĀ“t even come up with "alternative facts".

      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
        Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        The alternative is to abolish Federal Government and turn it over the majority major decision to the people. State and local Government takes care of the small stuff.

        But no, their abuse domestially and internationally has not hit rock bottom yet. The civil war and world war that we are already into. Must fit in to the UN agenda of the world population of 2 billion people. Fourth World war  will be fought with stick and stones. Or we imprison these greedy banker bastards, the head of the snake.

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          Aaronward1234posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          What???

          1. Castlepaloma profile image76
            Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            If we don't imprison the greedy bankers. The US economy will surely collapse and wars will cost a second depression. Only one % are prepare for this. Like me living far far away.

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              Aaronward1234posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              What are you talking about?

              1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Go where the money is, that is the source of the problems.

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
        Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        "There were few jokes about former president Obama, but apparently Mr. Trump is easy prey for European media now."

        This fact is probably because President Obama was a dignified, admirable person in his own right, apart from being the president of the U.S.  Trump is not.

    4. Cristian A Healy profile image60
      Cristian A Healyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      In Ireland, we are very anti Trump. We are signing petitions to make sure he does not come to our great nation. We will march on our streets if he tries and comes here. I understand that nearly every president has had "a connection" to Ireland, and we allow that, but if Trump thinks he can come out with that he is "partial Irish" we will have something to say.

      We have enough issues with our own politics, let alone the POS cheeto that is going to cause issues for all countries in the world.

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      joey2577posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      #im not for trump# he is really putting america down thats all i have to say

  2. Marisa Wright profile image84
    Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago

    Most people outside American are horrified.

    The parallels with Hitler are astounding.   He was democratically elected and then engineered a takeover of the country from within, using his executive powers. Everyone outside Germany (and many inside) thought he was a joke, just like Trump.  No one realised the extent of his plans until it was too late.

    In Trump's case, I don't think he's clever enough to have such plans, but his entourage does.  He will be the puppet that enables them to realise their vision.

    American is heading for a Fascist government which will go backwards to the 1950's - which is what many Americans want, except that it will have many of the bad aspects as well as the good ones, like discrimination on the grounds of race and colour, a complete disregard for the environment, and a constant threat of nuclear annihilation.

    Which wouldn't worry me, because if America wants to make a mess of itself, it's their business - except that America's behaviour has such a big effect on the rest of the world, and limited nuclear war is probably not possible.

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      promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Most people inside America are horrified including some of the open-minded ones who foolishly voted for him. That's why his approval rating is now down to 38%.

      Gotta love Russian intelligence. They did a great job of getting him elected.

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    ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

    "Foreign Hubber's "  pay attention .
    To those of you OUTSIDE of the U.S.  , This election will go down as an extremely sobering   history lesson for the national "socialist " like quagmires that most European nations have become , and where other nations that are even newer in origin are headed .         

    Leadership administrations in all countries change  , whether by scheduled elections or by revolutions and coups ,   In America , there is a change or possible change every four years ,   BUT WHAT ALMOST NEVER  HAPPENS in almost all countries of the world  is when the  people of the nation create a "grass roots "movement based upon such as you are watching in America right now .

    The PEOPLE of  of America have risen up to RECLAIM their rightful and constitutional ownership from the stronghold of apathetic drivel that its elected representation has become . graft , corruption , apathy ,  criminal activity ,the  quid pro quo  relationship between business , government and the  "mafia" media  have put a strangled  hold on the democracy in action,  that which America was .

    Whether the American voter is able to release that stranglehold  from it's rightful ownership of the American governing  process  OR NOT is what the " Foreign Hubber's" of the world  SHOULD be watching .   If it doesn't happen AND the American voter isn't able to win  then perhaps the next choice of presidential candidate will !   The point here though  is that "We The People "  are speaking  out in an election process that works better than most countries .    AND THAT IS WHAT THOSE OF YOU  OUTSIDE AMERICA'S BORDERS SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON ,  IN OTHER WORDS , IT'S TOO LATE FOR YOU  --BUT WATCH WHAT HAPPENS HERE !

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      TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
        Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I can concur with this having traveled a 100 countries.

        You can't ask a bigger bully to help you from a smaller bully, because this bigger will beat on you worst. Not my idea of a free world. Best thing US did was stand up to USSR, after that they are the new bully on the block

        It is BRICS turn to stand up to US, on the balance sheet, they are stronger overall.

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          TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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          1. Castlepaloma profile image76
            Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Wondering, is there alot of white slums upraising due to a lack of jobs for Whites? Huge jump forward for the blacks from 20 years ago.

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              TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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              1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                USA should take note of south Africa before they go in the wrong direction. You can't ignore 86% of the non white world population.

        2. Ken Burgess profile image68
          Ken Burgessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          This I concur on, Americans don't realize how weak the country is in relation to most others... blame that on the education system, the media, etc.  our nation dumbs down the people... wants a welfare state majority.
          All that this really is IMO, is the final throws of those people not so enthralled to the propaganda and welfare, the middle aged and older generations that can see things have gone wrong, even if many can't place a finger on it... Trump alluded to it, he honed in on this growing discontent even if he was not an ideal orator or candidate.
          As you said with BRICS, or more importantly the other alliances and agreements which include Russia, China, Iran and others... they are stronger economically, and soon militarily as well, if they are not already there yet.
          The 12 Trillion dollars in new debt, the lack of investment into military and new technologies, no real advancements.  Have set America back while the rest of the world improved.... Russia was on the verge of collapse when Putin took over, now it is stronger economically and thru alliance than the entire EU (without England) IMO, China is the #1 economic and industrial force in the world, and Iran is supplying China with lots of oil and Nat Gas.
          These are realities most Americans are totally unaware of... I doubt one in 1,000 even know what BRICS is, or of the other trade and security alliances between Asian/Persian/Russian states.
          Truth is, most of the rest of the world doesn't care about Trump, or will get along with him like they would any other, with the exception of the states in Europe who have gone so soft, so socialist, they are just waiting for Russia or the millions flowing from the Middle East to come across their borders in enough numbers to finish off their cultures and governments for good.
          Might take a generation for the transformation to complete, be it through immigration or military invasion (from one direction or the other) but should I live another quarter century, the Europe of 25 years ago will have nothing in common with the Europe of 25 years from now.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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            1. Castlepaloma profile image76
              Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              About 25 million American have traveled to Canada where only 1.8 million have been anywhere in the middle East. The lack of understanding of a culture and Religion for an
              American,  would be great. The fear of Muslims growth rate worldwide horrified Christians. More people say they spiritual rather than Religious. Then a true democracy would not kill. Yet but both Religions in Religious countries do not have a true democracy. 

              Christain countries rap sheet for criminals, prisons, wars, and homicides would be far greater than in Muslims countries. Making most everything backward.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                what are you talking about?

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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                  1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                    Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Also Christians countries have more crime, create more genocides and murders. Muslims are too strict with laws to have this much perverted fun.

                  2. MizBejabbers profile image90
                    MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Yes, our regressive drug laws see to that. If the USA ever wises up and legalizes drugs, the prison population will immediately shrink. But with private corporations running prisons, that will be a long time in the future, if ever.

            2. Ken Burgess profile image68
              Ken Burgessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Tess "Have you ever stepped a foot outside of America "
              This is easy to find out, you click on a poster's name, it will take you to their profile page, where they say something about themselves.  There is a decent chance they will mention a little bit about themselves and what they have done... I believe more-so if they like to discuss politics and events on HP, to give people some idea of one's background and experience.
              This will also take you to the articles they have posted on HP so you can read about their interests, experiences and issues.
              Tess "the reason why education is so high in Europe"
              I wasn't commenting on the education system in Europe, but rather the ignorance and lack of worth while education in America.  The effort to dumb down children in America today, to get them to conform, to learn not to challenge or question, is stunning.  America has "Common Core"  standards testing, schools are graded on how well students test, teachers are told exactly what to teach 'cookie cutter' style and cannot deviate, children today learn how to pick the right choices on their standards tests, and little else.  The bulk of children, not all, there are exceptional schools for the exceptional children or the ones who can afford to pay for private schooling... the other 90% of American children are taught to be well behaved idiots.  An over simplification for a complex system of failures known as our public schools, I admit..
              Tess "I don't know why you think Europe is soft"
              I think Europe is soft because it is being over-run by millions of illegal immigrants flowing from the Middle East, and all your nice social systems, from your proclaimed excellent school systems to your social welfare nets are going to be over-burdened and overwhelmed by this influx of humanity.  But that was not my primary intent of 'soft'... my real meaning is that militarily you cannot defend your own interests, and should Russia, or anyone else choose to come rolling through, they will do so without so much as a speed bump slowing them down if you don't have America's military might there to defend you.
              In the face of either of those threats... Europe has no defense and no recourse it is willing to pursue... and it is why the Europe of 25 years from now will look more like a mix of Turkey, Greece, and some may get even as bad a Syria, than anything it looked like just ten years ago.
              Many Americans are concerned about how bad things may get in our future, no matter what is to come, we are going to have it easy here compared to the tumultuous issues and economic turmoil ahead in Europe's future.

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                TessSchlesingerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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                1. Ken Burgess profile image68
                  Ken Burgessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  To the education debate... I have little to add, it is complicated by unions, and as I said they want a complaint 90%, a relatively uninformed 90% as that is what suits their purposes.
                  As for the other... European nations will not be able to make religion illegal, they will not be able to get the immigrants that are ingrained in Islam to conform at all.  Most of the smaller nations, like Sweden, like Belgium, will be transformed within a generation.  It may be brutally violent, or it may be that they just release control and conform to Islam and Sharia Law.  But it will happen, it is already to late for them.  Germany and others with higher populations is a more complicated matter... and it may be these violent attacks by a hostile Islamic minority that ends up triggering a 'right-wing' backlash.  If you think America is messed up right now... just give it a few years, we'll see how Germany is doing then.

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                    TessSchlesingerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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                  2. Marisa Wright profile image84
                    Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Are you seriously saying that less than 6% of the population will take over the country and force their religion on everyone else?  That's the percentage of Muslims in Germany - yes, even after all that extra migration recently.

                    Russia is the country with the highest concentration of Muslims in Europe and that's still only 10%.

            3. MizBejabbers profile image90
              MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Tess, the reason education in the USA is so weak goes back to the days of slavery, according to an African American high school principal of a school for troubled youth. He lamented to my friend (white) who had a son in the school that during the days of integration, instead of bringing the education of the formerly segregated Black children up to the standards of the white children and holding them to the standards, the government lowered the standards so the Black children would have fewer failures in school. Then they never gradually raised the standards back up. Instead, the brighter kids of all races now compete for public charter schools, public magnet schools and private schools. Being old enough to have lived through those days, I think he may have been correct.
              I know I'm going to catch hell over this, but this had been said in the white community for years. It took an African-American educator to validate it.

              1. Credence2 profile image79
                Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                It is referred to as the soft bigotry of low expectations....

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                TessSchlesingerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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                1. Will Apse profile image90
                  Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I can understand anti-Americanism, given Trump's election but this is bordering on bigotry. Honestly, Tess, get a bit of balance. Also, try talking to some Americans with a college education. You will find them well enough informed.

                  1. MizBejabbers profile image90
                    MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Yes, Tess. I was explaining the reason for the diminution of white education in the USA, but I don't think a word I said registered with you. So you were constantly having to correct your American professors because you know so much more than Americans do. Well, coming from one who couldn't understand my explanation (whether or not you agreed with it), I'll bet that went over well.

                    BTW, I've traveled outside this country on a tour with mostly college professors and teachers, and we didn't run into any people who thought we were stupid. In fact, we had some interesting high level conversations, but you wouldn't understand that, would you.

                    1. CHRIS57 profile image61
                      CHRIS57posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                      I donĀ“t want to offend, but i do agree with the comments from Tess.
                      Received part of my education in the US in the early seventies and I can only confirm: College degrees were equivalent to high school in Europe.
                      From my experience that has not changed much in the past decades, only that some of Europe tried to copy the American system and "dumbed down". Though, not much to worry about, "American exceptionalism" takes care that the US stays ahead in this downward spiral. Sad story.
                      Of course people, students, teachers in the US are not less abled or intelligent than anyone in other countries on our planet. But circumstances  make the difference. You may call those circumstances: culture, the culture of learning, education..
                      The US culture holds little incentive for comparison, - the US is a big country, everyone speaks moreless English :-) so why learn other languages - it takes a lot of gasoline to go to other states/counties... so why mess with geography - history: a little over 200 years? One hour in the morning for everything from the Pilgrims to the civil war and one hour in the afternoon for all wars after, who needs to know more - science and computers: thats for nerds and Stanford and MIT - want me to continue?
                      To come back to the topic of president T.: His team is perfectly aware of the educational status of most of his supporters. The supporters have nothing to compare with than TV rants from their favourite channels. Makes them easy prey for "Alternative Facts".
                      Foreign hubbers do have tools to compare, that makes the difference. At least in Europe most people are plain scared of what to expect from Mr. T. in the future.
                      I was willing to give Mr. Trump him his first 100 days. Now i have my doubts: If he takes his alternative facts from biased FOX documentaries about Sweden and causes diplomatic irritations between 2 western countries, what will happen if he mixes Bagdad with Brussels or Belgium (all starts with a "B")?

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                    promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    The Nobel Prize committees would disagree with you. The strength of the American economy and scientific achievements built on the knowledge and abilities of its people also belie your comments.

                    That being said, I have met plenty of ignorant Americans. I also have met plenty of highly intelligent and educated Americans. I don't think calling all of us stupid because you had some professors who don't know your country is quite fair.

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                      TessSchlesingerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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            4. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I am glad you are so impressed with Putin's achievements in Russia (USSR, if he has his way), Ken.  You DO realize don't you that Putin is 1) a murderous dictator who 2) has stripped Russia of all the freedoms it won throwing off Putin's old employer, the KBG, don't you?  Or do you think that is what Trump should do?

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          promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I'm as anti-Trump as anyone, but I have never met someone in my travels to other countries (20-30 of them) who hates America so much.

      2. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Typical #UglyAmerican attitude from a #NoMandateTrump support, ahorseback.  Trump epitomizes that terrible title..

        You are quite wrong ahorseback with "The point here though  is that "We The People "  are speaking" -  the FACT is We The People rejected Trump, by almost 3 million votes. 

        Your "We the People" are the less than 100,000 votes cast in three Blue states which gave the Presidency to Trump.  America as a whole don't want Trump!  He is a disaster..  Further, the "We the People" you are talking about would Never had ratified the Constitution in the first place.

        1. MizBejabbers profile image90
          MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          ME, Have you ever noticed that in grassroots movements, " what We the People Want" really means "what my special interest wants".

      3. Misfit Chick profile image78
        Misfit Chickposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You have our deepest apologies, world! We don't know what's coming, but we are doing everything we can (protests, lawsuits) in an effort to diminish the harsh affects and restore some balance as soon as possible. We are willing to do whatever we have to do. Prepare for the worst & hope for the best - that's about all we can do for four years. Let's hope we're still around by the end of it.

        America did not elect Trump based on a 'grass roots' movement. While there are a few who voted for Trump because they actually thought he would 'bring change'; the majority who voted for him were already part of a very exclusive (and dwindling) club of misogonistic right-wing Christian-militant racists. (Turns out that we still have misogyny issues across party & economic divisions - its not just a GOP thing. We've learned a LOT about our entire country during this election.)

        Most T-fans have conveniently forgotten past GOP protests. Do a search to refresh your memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw6R-kIX4fA

        NOTICE that racism already existed in that very special club loooooooooong B4 Trump played off of it to win. Basically, Trump used the GOP's own tactics to hijack their political party. It would be funny if it wasn't so unfunny!

        These kind of people have been around since the dawn of time, ha! We thought their small-minded idealogy wasn't something that most people in our country would be impressed with (and they weren't) - so we weren't worried & didn't think Trump had a shot in hell of winning. Boy, were we wrong!

        Yeah, they were already around & won this time because people were convinced that NEITHER candidate was good enough (not true) - so, since so many didn't come out to vote, Trump won kind of by default on a MINORITY of the country.

        That isn't a grass roots movement, that's a manipulative, marketing maniac taking advantage of a weak link in the chain. He's walking, talking fake news in & of himself. I think most of us are hoping that he has enough rope to eventually - and metaphorically - hang himself before he does too much damage or anything irreparable.

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        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Are you saying Woman have more sense than men?  (When it comes to Trump ... for sure)

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          promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Please cut back on the graphics. They slow down the loading of the page and disrupt the flow of comments.

      4. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
        Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        "The PEOPLE of  America have risen up"  Correction:  A minority of the people of America have risen up".

    2. colorfulone profile image76
      colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

      Sorry for the rant but I can't remain silent anymore. I really try not to share my personal beliefs publicly on HubPages, but enough is enough. This last week was been too stressful.

      I can't stand him. His supporters are ridiculous and they blindly follow him. They rally around him. Cheer on his every move. I truly feel he and his "team" have been dishonest in the past and I just can't overlook that anymore.

      Another thing... His wife is beautiful. What in the world does she see in him? Yes he has a lot of money, power, and is rewriting history, but how can she overlook his arrogance?

      I am sorry for airing my dirty laundry in a public place like HubPages, but here it is. I just feel like it is time that someone call out Tom Brady for what he really is. It's time to go down Tom!

      RAISE UP FOR THE DIRTY BIRD!!! Falcons please get it done. It's time to take care of business!

      I felt like we all needed a little tension breaker. Plus...I mean look who I'm talking about LOL

      1. MizBejabbers profile image90
        MizBejabbersposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Colorfulone, Melania may be beautiful, but have you seen her porn videos she made while working illegally in this country? They are on youtube, or were before he was sworn in. To set the record straight, she was here on a legal visa, but it wasn't a work visa.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image76
          Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Wow, saw that sucker go inside her. She was an high end escort too. No video, and a guy got sued for reporting it. Must protect that phony baloney image.

      2. Ken Burgess profile image68
        Ken Burgessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Well done Colorfulone.
        I see from the comments what you were really talking about flew right over their heads... even after you noted the GOATs name.

        I find that most illuminating, some people read your post, and saw in it what they wanted to see, totally missing the most important/critical part.   
        Amazing really, its a great example of how facts can be presented, and then twisted or ignored based on what the viewer wants to see or wants them to be.

    3. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years ago

      As the quality of schools increase, drug use will decrease. As we understand human development in the light of natural law and parents and teachers recognize and work with the natural stages of development, rather than fight against them, as is done now, drug use will disappear.
      Drug use is a call for help. Perhaps drug use is a desperate attempt to avoid suicide. Or maybe a way to commit it slowly.
      http://www.emorycaresforyou.emory.edu/r … stics.html

    4. Oztinato profile image75
      Oztinatoposted 7 years ago

      Here in Australia Donald is both a laughing stock and a threat to world peace.
      Only extreme ultra right wingers and Nazi types like him. Same same.

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      Onusonusposted 7 years ago

      If foreigners hate Trump so much, why are so many of them trying so hard to get into our country?

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Remove the refugees and I wonder if that statement is correct anymore.  In the two years of the Obama administration there was a net decrease in both legal and undocumented immigrants from Mexico.

        Only an estimated 170,000 undocumented people entered the US across the Southern border; they included a large segment from Central America and Asia.  Mexicans made up a smaller portion

        http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol … /91280026/

        And #NoMandateTrump wants to spend $20 billion to reduce the 170,000 somewhat.  It might have made since in 2005 when illegals amounted to 1.7 million annually.  The number of illegals have steadily decreased during the Obama presidency.

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          Onusonusposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          We spend 99 billion dollars on illegal aliens every year in this country. If you don't think that's a problem then you are living in fantasy land.

      2. Will Apse profile image90
        Will Apseposted 7 years ago

        Not wishing to be controversial, but studies in the UK have found that white working class boys are the worst performers in standard educational exams at age 16.

        Every other ethnic group outperforms them and girls of every ethnic group outperform the boys in their group.

        http://www.suttontrust.com/newsarchive/ … d-results/

        Is it the same in the US? And (knowing that this is a bit of a leap) could this explain Trumpism?

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          TessSchlesingerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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            ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Careful ! you're dangerously close to being a confirmed sexist .....

            Seriously , Anyone that looks closely at TRUE  statistics , fact , crime stats , incarceration numbers , the justice system , the education system KNOWS what your saying is pretty true.

            America has been  dumbing itself down for  a generation or two and claiming success  all the way to the bottom .

            1. Will Apse profile image90
              Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I don't know why it is. Some possibilities:

              A curriculum that does not engage working class boys
              A culture of resistance to education that is perceived as offering nothing
              Macho BS (only wimps work hard at school)
              Lack of parental support
              Lack of confidence in kids from homes where books are a rarity
              Poor resources/poor teachers in poorer areas
              Bad health and nutrition among the poorest groups

              I was a working class white school boy fifty years ago, but my father had a well paying unionized job, so there was none of the chronic insecurity that stalks the lowest quintile, these days.

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                1. Will Apse profile image90
                  Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't have the answer but increasing children's security would be my priority.

                  In the US, for example, evictions are common place.

                  The majority of poor renting families in America spend more than half of their income on housing.

                  A study in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which has 105,000 renter households, found landlords evict roughly 16,000 adults and children each year. That is one in eight renters. There is no data for the US as a whole (who cares after all) but it suggests a big problem.

                  In the UK, a million children live in bad housing, with damp leading to routine respiratory illnesses, increased risks of meningitis, TB, mental health issues etc. Poor housing is a big indicator for poor educational attainment.

                  Very low wages are at the bottom of all this. In the US, denying people who could never afford private health care, a state provision is just incomprehensible.

                  1. wilderness profile image89
                    wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    "A study in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which has 105,000 renter households, found landlords evict roughly 16,000 adults and children each year."

                    Out of curiosity, what do landlords do in the UK when renters stop paying the rent?  Leave them alone until the bills overcome the rent payments and lose the complex to banks?  Stop making all repairs/upkeep to keep income in line with expenses?  go homeless themselves to save a few dollars and make up for lack of rent payments?  What do they do?

                    I'd be really surprised to find that over half of people living in poverty pay over half their income for housing.  REALLY surprised as people at that level of income get housing at very little to no cost to them.  Can you back up the statement?

                    1. Misfit Chick profile image78
                      Misfit Chickposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                      Work out the numbers for yourself... What does 40 hours at minimum wage pay (or even a little better) bring in? Even with two people working? Add in another part-time job paying minimum wage on top of that and what do you get a month for rent, bills, food, etc. What about if you have kids?

                      What is the average rent in your area? In Seattle, it is well-over a grand a month for a studio or 1-bedroom. If your family needs something bigger, forget it. Now add on health insurance. I've lived paycheck to paycheck in the past with a full & part-time job at the same time. Lucky me, I don't have any kids. Not sure what I would have done if I had.

                      Not everyone who is 'poor' is that way because they don't work. Want them to get an education to get a better job? More money... And sure there is 'help' out there, but gosh there are a LOT of people who resent helping anyone else out...

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                        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Aren't you forgetting something?  Like EBT, section 8 housing subsidies, school lunches, medicaid, utility subsidies, EIC and all the rest of the "income" available?

                        You might want to work out the numbers yourself.  Including ALL of the cash and other help coming in, instead of forgetting to include half (or more) of what a poor household has available.

                        Rent in my area is less than a grand...for a 3 bed house.  Apartments are, of course, cheaper.

                        And when you are through figuring out that it isn't nearly as bad as it sounds if you ignore half the income, then answer the question of what a landlord should do when the rent doesn't cover the costs.  Should (s)he evict those not paying or demolish the housing they are in?

                        1. Misfit Chick profile image78
                          Misfit Chickposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                          That isn't even SORT of the case in Seattle at far as rent goes, LoL!

                          You would not BELIEVE how many poor people in this country are too PROUD to take govenment handouts; and many TRY to live without it and barely succeed. Those are the ones with multiple jobs who have no life; but pay their own rent & put their own food on the table. Many MANY homeless people actually HAVE jobs.

                          Try to think beyond your 'every poor person is lazy' ideal & really figure it out... How would a poor family get by without handouts? How DO so many of them get by? Most importantly, how does it hurt you to help?
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                    2. Will Apse profile image90
                      Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                      https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 … ing-crisis

                      http://www.forbes.com/sites/troymcmulle … 1221e6d183

                      You could have found this stuff with a search. As I said low wages are at the bottom of the eviction problem, though government indifference and lack of action are implicated too.

                      These figures indicate that for millions of people in the US, life is a very insecure business.

                      For an assessment of the impact of poor housing on children in the UK:

                      https://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/a … report.pdf

                      If you want a realistic glimpse into poverty in the UK try this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9aSp9bFmMg&t=1388s

                      The kids are wonderful, their situations grim. You can see why school is a low priority.

        2. Buildreps profile image83
          Buildrepsposted 7 years ago

          Most people are preoccupied without knowing anything about the issue. Give Trump a chance before you judge him. Democracy had its say. Just wait and see.

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              Buildrepsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              A typical reaction of a superficial fool with the brains of a rabbit who thinks to know everything better. Everyone should get a chance. Even you. But you've said already enough superficial things on this thread.

              1. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                We watched #NoMandateTrump for two years campaigning for and now four weeks being President disgracing himself and our nation.  He didn't change his ugly behavior when he became President.  His actions while president, just like in his campaign, has or will do great damage to citizens of America and, to a lesser degree the world.

                Now he has begun his version of ethnic cleansing by deporting every undocumented immigrants (well maybe only those with Latino heritage) ICE (his Brown Shirts) can lay their hands on.  He might as well ship the Statue of Liberty back to France, his America doesn't deserve it anymore.

                And yes, enough information has come out that convinces me there is a HIGH likelihood Trump is president because of the machinations of Putin and the partisanship (or naivete) of FBI director Comey.  They needed to only convince less than 0.6% of three formerly Blue states to either not vote for Clinton or vote for Trump.

                He Has Had His Chance and he failed!!

                (Notice how I did that without insulting you once, compared to at least four from you; (now here is my first) no wonder you support Trump, you sounded just like him)

              2. Misfit Chick profile image78
                Misfit Chickposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Trump has had many chances to apologize for his rude, disruptive pre-election behavior. He's had lots of time to work on building bridges & mending the fences he plowed through. He's had all kinds of opportunities to say things that build unity instead of his much more common egotistical, immature and oftentimes hateful, LYING rhetoric on Twitter of all places.

                There are so many things he could have said & done to smooth things over between his rabid, brainwashed supporters and the rest of us. But, he doesn't even bother to try. I have two theories as to why he doesn't:

                1) His ego doesn't need the entire country to support him. It just needs to hear the few, the spiteful, the LOUD... I think its why he continued to do rallies after he was elected; and its probably why he did the one in Florida, recently. After all the opposition since he started flying EO's off his desk without barely taking the time to analyze anything... He was probably feeling pretty beaten up & in need of an ego boost - and to make sure the wild & crazy sound of support from his sheeple hasn't dwindled.

                2) It is the way whomever is pulling his puppet strings wants us to be manipulated. There has been more than one time when I have thought, "No one is that stupid to say that obviously-manipulative thing and get away with it..." Its like he intentionally set out to make the divisions in this country as deep & wide as possible; and continues to do so. There is not a bipartisan thought in his brain - which would be okay, if he had 'the majority' backing him. But heck, many people in his own party can't stand him and would gladly be rid of him. Pence is a much better choice from their perspective, I'm sure.

                Trump supporters insist that they voted for him because he would bring the changes they wanted. But, we could have brought in someone capable of making these imperative changes WITHOUT the inspiration of a manipulative, hate-normalizing candidate. It wasn't his policies that impressed you - other GOP candidates had similar positions.

                You like Trump for 'telling it like it is' - apparently, your interpretation of his most ugly statements. You admire him for his non-PC rants (cuz who the hell cares about respecting other people); and isn't it impressive that he can whip up the kinds of reactions he does from both media & the individuals around you - and that 'everything other than what comes out of my mouth is fake news' tactic has worked like a charm!

                Trump doesn't act the way a POTUS should act. He doesn't represent us as a nation because he sure as hell doesn't respect (or even acknowledge) the long list of people he has directly & indirectly insulted, offended or lied about in some way. He has no desire to 'make nice' or do any helpful thing at all to restore some balance between the dividing lines. That alone should be a huge concern for his supporters. Are your neighbors your enemies? You obviously think so...

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              3. Castlepaloma profile image76
                Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                She does jump around like a jack rabbit. I Bet if she had a race with a tortoise turtle like me, she would loose.

                In sports, arts and history, I won several international awards. My point being based more on experince. Is that we live in an over ego world where over competition harms our true natural nature of structuring ourselves with cooperation. I say the nobel prize is fixed or the deck is stacked in favor on who writes the history books and sets the judgement stage. Each race has had their empire and fallen, No multi cultured has lasted longer than the Chinese as they will return as the 21 Century super power.

                This jack rabbit/race horse Trump all you need to do is study his pass and you will see where he is going. No need for extreme logic.

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                  1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                    Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Don't disbute majority of your facts. When more of your thinking is like a Jack rabbit. Not downing you, rabbits are among the brightest, not questioning your characture.

                    You do somethings better than me and vice-versa. This turtle has done more diversity reserch and fact checking  about historical rewards, punishment and natural history, thats all.

                    Good thing I dont do drugs. Although....Pot on a blue moon is very nice.

                  2. wilderness profile image89
                    wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    "Your time would be better spent disproving what I say with factual evidence from reputable sources."

                    You mean like when you say that "...that Trump is an ignorant, stupid self serving moron."?

                    Every person is ignorant in most fields, and Trump is no different,  In other fields he is very well educated, and has demonstrated that quite well.  Trump is obviously not a moron, even to the most hate filled speaker:

                    Moron:
                    Psychology. (no longer in technical use; now considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.

                    Trump is demonstrably not such a person, which in turn means that the accusation is an Ad Hominem attack:

                    Ad Hominem:
                    ADVERB
                    (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

                    Perhaps your own claims should be a little better researched, or presented without the superlatives that make them a lie?

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                      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                        Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        You make me feel glad, I moved off this continent. Will miss Canada when it's taken over by the US.

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                      2. wilderness profile image89
                        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        "Trump inherited his wealth"

                        Of course he did.  All 4 Billion of it.  We both know better.

                        "Trump has gone bankrupt repeatedly"

                        The large majority of entrepreneurs also go bankrupt.  As a vilification of Trump, then, it doesn't mean much except that he is willing to get up, dust off and make another go at it.  A terrible thing, yes?

                        "He can't read."

                        Do you actually have proof that Trump is illiterate, or is this just another gross exaggeration to "prove" another non-existent point?

                        "His degree was bought for him by his father."

                        Do you have that contract agreement, or even his transcripts showing poor grades?  Or is it another gross exaggeration to prove another nonexistent point?

                        "There is something seriously wrong with Trump's lack of intelligence."

                        Do you have the examination records of an accredited psychologist, or is this another gross exaggeration to prove another nonexistent point?

                        "So I don't know where you got your definition from, but it was NOT from a dictionary."

                        How odd!  The quotation I gave came from the very same dictionary you give a link to.  It is the second, psychological, definition.

                        "The reason you're all attacking my character is because you cannot disprove a single thing I am saying."

                        Except that, unlike you, no one is attacking your character.  Only your grossly exaggerated statements - statements you cannot prove.  I assume you do realize that it is up to you to prove that Trump is a moron, uneducated without an earned degree, etc.?  That simply making the statement does not make it true until disproved?

                        "There has been no research, no statistics, no articles from recognized accepted sources in the rest of the world to counter my contention that Trump is recognized outside America as a stupid, ignorant, warmongering, vulgar peasant with too much money."

                        There has also been no research, statistics, articles from recognized accepted sources to show that he IS a "stupid, ignorant, warmongering, vulgar peasant with too much money." either.  Granted that the perception of the average Botswanian may be that, but once more that does not mean it's true.  It only means that that person has not bothered to fact check his beliefs. 

                        Or is it just unsupported opinion that you are reporting from the rest of the world?  While "peasant" has a pretty well accepted meaning, the rest are simple opinion, and are all relative attributes, not absolute values.  "Ignorant", for example could mean that he doesn't know how to grow a turnip and "vulgar" simply means that he doesn't use the same gracious terminology as you do - that he comes from a different culture and one that you have labeled as vulgar.

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          2. MizBejabbers profile image90
            MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Buildreps, I think you misspelled a word. You said "Democracy had its say." I think you meant "Democracy had its day."

        3. writejt profile image61
          writejtposted 7 years ago

          If we consider the world to have passed through, Archaic period, Middle ages, Machine Age, Atomic Age, Space Age and Information Age, to reach the present, the future can undoubtedly be termed as The Age of The Irrational. Things like banning mini skirts, warring over cartoons, unthinkable wins or losses could occur more frequently.

        4. Nell Rose profile image87
          Nell Roseposted 7 years ago

          Well I come from England, and whoever wrote that Merkel is the leader of the free world is wrong. Well not England! we shut her down big time. I call her Mad Merkel, so we brits shut the darn doors on her! lol! We found it an insult to think that Germany was trying to take over the whole of europe when we had two world wars to stop them.

          Anyway, sorry going off the subject, but there was a point. I think that the reason why you all voted Trump as president was because we did Brexit. They thought we were going drastically to change the way we had been treated, so by voting Trump you all hoped for the same thing.

          And to be honest? I think you all should give him a chance! Why? Because all the ones recently you voted for, you are all moaning about now. Obama did this, or didn't do that and so on.
          Give him a chance, people seem to be jumping on him before he even started properly.

          1. MizBejabbers profile image90
            MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            "you are all moaning" No, Nell, we ALL didn't put him there. Trump didn't win the popular vote, our screwed up electoral college system did. I'm proud to say that I didn't vote for him. Love you Brits, and I think you showed great courage not letting Germany continue to push you around in the EU.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image76
              Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              2nd that. 

              Wait til the screaming and body parts hit the floor, here. Already watching it oline in the middle east.

            2. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Great courage maybe, but at what economic and political cost to England.  Brexit is the fallout from the rise of the alt-Right in Europe.and Trump is the fallout from the rise of the alt-Right in America.

            3. Nell Rose profile image87
              Nell Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Sorry MizB, didn't mean to say people were moaning, I meant they were saying stuff about Obama being wrong in so many ways. so maybe a complete change is needed.

        5. ibuh benhar profile image52
          ibuh benharposted 7 years ago

          In that time he has issued around 14 executive orders, most of which impact the world.

        6. Podfather profile image59
          Podfatherposted 7 years ago

          He should try "Glamping" might chill him out smile sorry new blogger couldnt help myself !!!

        7. Titus Mutea profile image61
          Titus Muteaposted 7 years ago

          Education in reality is more detailed than human mind can fathom! It is like the art of trying to understand the human mind which is rather very complicated! The link between man and woman/boys and girls in thinking is very interesting also.More is yet to be discovered!!

        8. shuaib yusuf profile image59
          shuaib yusufposted 7 years ago

          i think the president needs to unite his people instead of spreading the hatred, divisions and many other ideological administrations. every citizen deserves the right to be loved, cared, and welcomed.
          thank you.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image76
            Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Great idea, this system and Trump are uncapable of this.

        9. Titus Mutea profile image61
          Titus Muteaposted 7 years ago

          may be Americans who elected him saw something of value and potential.All the same, things are getting even more difficult in 21st century! Trump had no past experience in politics and may be he has difficult time fixing this with what he knows better-business!

        10. Aime F profile image72
          Aime Fposted 7 years ago

          I think he's a narcissist, a liar, and a shameless manipulator.  I think that by dismissing his opponents as "fake news" and keeping things very divided between the left and right he's setting himself up to be the ultimate authority on truth and righteousness, and his supporters are just eating it right up.  I just watched a documentary on a cult the other day, in a way it kind of reminds me of that....

          That said, I live in the most conservative city in the most conservative province in Canada and I see lots of people here who adore him.  I don't think it's very representative of Canada as a whole, which is largely a left-leaning country, but I see it often enough that I fear the same aggressive divisiveness will start to happen here, too.

          1. wilderness profile image89
            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Is it possible that between Brexit and Trump we will see more and more countries where the people being to demand that government respond to them[/] and [i]their needs and wishes rather than the desires of the politically powerful?

            Just a thought...

            1. Castlepaloma profile image76
              Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Always for smaller Governments, the larger Governments the worst they are. Countries are better off separating to Govern themselves better rather joining a NWO to further the wealthy and create greater poverty.

              1. PhoenixV profile image67
                PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                The should do a 50 million dollar government study to settle the question of which is better : more or less government .

                1. wilderness profile image89
                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  That will pay for just one researcher for one day.  It's worthy of at least 2 people for a week - don't forget that coffee breaks DO take time!

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          ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

          Guess what , in todays divisive  fake" leftstream" news media ,  real  Americans don't care what other countries  feel about our choice of president !     Clean up your own political kitchens and then criticize America's ,  And America will still be there to defend you when you call .

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Don't bet on it.  As Trump tries to reestablish his autocracy, he has promised to not defend any NATO country who is a penny behind in what HE believes is the right amount of money due.

            In fact, he has more or less said he will pull out of NATO now that he won't have anybody to talk him out of it like they did four years ago.

        12. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
          Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

          Americans: Before you cast your vote - again - please read through these comments again from other-than-Americans. Just read.

         
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