Obama's speech to the children..the text.

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jiberishposted 14 years ago
Please read:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResource … olRemarks/
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  Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Personally, i told my kids to plug their ears up if they start playing that video. For one, I seen the video,.No one has the right to tell my kid's to pledge to Obama. My kids pledge to God and the Alliegance of the flag NOTHING else. I dont care if he did change it, bottom line he had his adgenga and that was to get the kids to pledge to him.BS !! He needs to focus on more important things, like the Wars and getting bread, bullets and band-aids our troops are saying they are out of.
  
  And oh Tex,...I'm the first in line for fighting any terrorist on my homeland country Semper Fi !!!!
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes Ma'am! I got your six! Hooah!
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You told your kids to plug their ears? Really, I am sorry but I think that is over the top. I feel you have little respect for Obama. The original lesson plan was cheesy, and that is all. I am sort of offended that you are implying Obama is a terrorist. I have tried to think maybe you were open minded to others, but I suppose not.
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  Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I never implied Obama as a terrorist,..I said he needs to not tell my kids to pledge to him.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  She wasn't talking about Obama being a terrorist she was talking about something else entirely!
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The speech was inspiring!
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmm that was an interesting speech...I do wonder however, how many kindergartners through 3rd graders are going to understand words like "AIDS", "global economy", "personal responsibility", "google, facebook and twitter".
  
  as for trying hard to find something to be offended about, I think the President is responsible for people turning a wary eye towards everything he does. he doesn't act very presidential, in my book. he appears to be combative, gossipy, too casual, and even a little sneaky. that "beer summit" was the biggest joke I have ever seen and something beneath the office of the POTS.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  POTS?
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  President Of The United States
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh reeeeeeeeeealy?
  
  And all this time I thought it was POTUS.
  
  Silly me.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Something else we agree on!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yuk Yuk Yuk
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  TOTUS.
  The 'T' stands for teleprompter
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey! Thats my line!!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Badmouthing the verbal skills of the only president of the last 8 1/2 years who can pronounce the word "nuclear"? My My...
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He does read well!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, you get too close to Obama and they always drag Bush into it.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It could have been worse. I could have mentioned Palin.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When we all know theres absolutely no comparison
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Smart observations, I wish everyone was like you.
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  qbanmamiof2posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In my opinion, I found the speech to be very well aimed at students to work hard on their own futures and aspire to make a better life of their own. Everyone knows that in this country what counts is what is in black and white (ink & paper for all of you that quoting racism) The speech is very inspiring made me want to go back to school, but I am a Cuban and I can't help but wonder what is the real agenda. Correct me if I am wrong please but why does he have to talk to the students of this nation everyday from now on???? Fidel started the same way, Chavez talks to his country every morning.
  
  If it is a one time speech, then it was pretty good and I congratulate him for making an effort to talk to the future generation. Made it very real and tried to use his experiences to make it more real for students to connect to him.
  
  If it is an everyday thing, then I think that we need to really question who is our elected official and what he is up to.
  
  Communisim/socialism looks awesome ON PAPER but never works in real life and there will never be a person responsible enough to have that position because in the end everyone gets greedy.
  Look at Russia, still recovering from that economic breakdown. Look at Cuba, in the 1950's it was the most advanced and economically prosperous latin american country, now where is it, in the toilet.
  Look at what chavez is doing to venezuela, look at Honduras, now there is a political stand off on who is the real president.
  Look at china....need I say more
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it looks like they cleaned it up nicely.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  'We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don’t do that – if you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country. '
  
  Scary !!
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  pgrundyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you being sarcastic? Or are you serious?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarcastic & serious. Both apply.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's gotten even, uh, weirder on here, Pam...
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  pgrundyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No kidding!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hee hee
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Madame Xposted 14 years ago
Excellent speech. He can be proud of it. It's a very far cry from the indoctrination he was going to ram down all their throats before we all screamed our heads off.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  maybe next time you'll think before screaming your head off.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's precisely BECAUSE we screamed that it was a good speech at all - Sheesh!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You keep believing that...
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Only because the facts support my view . . .
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What facts? I have yet to see a shred of evidence that a single word of Obama's speech was changed, let alone as a result of the howling by rednecks and knuckle draggers.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So much for the Big Tent. Tolerance takes a holiday.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I repeat, where are the facts?
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wouldn't matter. We rednecks and knuckle draggers have nothing to teach you.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "rednecks and knuckle draggers" How tolerant!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  READ THE WHOLE THREAD. The rest of us have already discussed this.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Discussed this." Yes, but I saw nothing but unsubstantiated assertions. No facts.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have seen no facts that I am a "knuckle dragger" Redneck yes!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I repeat, read the whole thread. The objectionable parts of his speech were quoted.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are correct. The head of Florida's (imagine that!) GOP made the unsubstantiated assertion in an interview. When asked if he had any proof, he said no.
  
  Glenn Beck should do an investigation of this charge. That would get to the truth of the matter!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You can buy a piece of the Moon now, I think thats where they sent Glenn
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What facts? I haven't seen any yet.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Get over yourself lol
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Facts, please. I haven't seen a shred of evidence for this assertion.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think I'll go back out and enjoy poolside relaxation~~~
  it's appalling that parents are teaching their children to be disrespectful by their whining~
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yes, imagine the next generation...
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  o.k., bluedog, one more response, then back to the pool. I've spent the last 14 years teaching, both public and private school settings~~ (recently laid off two days before my vacation) for the most part, teachers are raising a lot of these young children and it's quite sad how lonely and stressed many of them are, as young as 3 yrs.
  
  Parents really need to stop giving their kids material things and start giving them quality time playing outdoors, taking them to museums,reading all kinds of books, teaching them HOW to think, not WHAT to think. we want our future generation to know how to make intelligent decisions, not biased judgments.
  
  hey, happy labor day USA.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My sentiments exactly. Have a wonderful Labor Day too!
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  PS- The 'essays' were never, ever -even for a minute- mandatory. The fact that many anti-Obama folks can't even post a comment about him without adding schoolyard name-calling ("Nobama" or making sure to include his middle name cuz ya'all know wut dat meenz, dat heez a muzzlim!!) speaks volumes.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He's a "Muzzlim?"I knew there was something I didn't like about him!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  gasp!
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Dern tootin'! Plus, did you notice how he acts all nice and happy and well-spoken? T-R-O-U-B-L-E!
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah he is happy and well spoken that is until anyone asks him a question or his teleprompter hits the floor, then he reminds me of hmmmmmmm, GW
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  First, the essays were originally mandatory, sent out to the teachers. Second Nobama is my pet name for him, because originally I kept saying no, no everytime I saw him on TV. No disrespect. And as far as being well spoke, he has mastered that, but a speech is just a speech, unfortunatly written by others.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know before, but the last 5 american presidents have always said in their speech what others have written before. And above them. If you get my meaning. I'm not begining an argument here. I'm not american and this is only MHO.Just want to have my say. But I think you should be aware of Obama, opinion, looking your country from the outside.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is what's happening, the outsider can clearly see what Obama is doing, while the masses then to sit back an defend him.. If history has taught us anything, it's that we question everything....
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Some "teachers" have a picture of Obama superimposed on the American flag in their classrooms - just so the kids won't "forget" who he is, of course. But hey, nothing is "mandatory". . .
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The attempt is sufficient.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  exactly. today's schools are required to offer and teachers are required to babysit through before-school programs and after-school programs. this all sandwiched around a full day of children who eventually return home at the end of the day to parent-influenced materialism.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  All the uproar from the parents caused them to do away with the essays etc. I agree this speech is very similar to other presidents.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What do you base that on? Do you have even a shred of evidence? If you do, let's see it.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What do you base that on? Do you have even a shred of evidence? If you do, let's see it.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Start at the beginning of the thread.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you have any evidence supporting this assertion, let's see it!
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pgrundyposted 14 years ago
I just don't get it.

He's the President, not some child molester.
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  Jellyrugposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't get it either???
  
  Sounds like Paddy getting off the plane in a foreign country and the first thing he says with a heavy Irish accent is:
  
  "By the way, who is the Government, because I am against them!!!"
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Man after my own heart
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  FreeFlaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The president who wants to socialize our economy and appoints personal non-elected, non-confirmed czars to control every area of our lives.
  His personal lack of a father makes him assume we all need his "guidance". In his efforts to reach young black males he is stepping on the toes of everyone else.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ridiculous. The speech was nothing but a good will measure to inspire young people to do well in school. Quite a few presidents have done the same thing in the past, including Reagan and Bush.
  
  Your post reeks of Glenn Beckisms. He's the only one who has used the word 'czar,' as far as I know. And I won't even ask how he is "stepping on the toes of everyone else."
  
  "The story of America isn't about people who quit when things got tough. It's about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best," --Barack Obama
  
  Yeah. Subversive stuff.
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Davinagirl3posted 14 years ago
I thought the speech was inspiring.
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  For now.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Let's see, people screamed their heads off about a speech they hadn't read.

Then the text gets published and says nothing about what you imagined and you take credit for it?

There was going to be an essay about how kids thought they could help the leader of their country which always seems to have gone along with president's speaking to schools.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. It was publicized, written about, talked about, and discussed before he gave the speech. Which of these did you miss?
  
  Also, it has NEVER gone along with "the president's speech" on what you can do for that "leader", only what you can do for your country.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  All I saw was some proposed ideas on what might be covered in the speech.
  
  But, I still see about how to help the President in that he is the head of state of the county not of a specific political party. Again, I ask...don't you have any faith in children?
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's not about having faith in children, it's about understanding how manipulative techniques work on the human mind, even if one is aware of them, as it has been proven in clinical studies. School kids wouldn't stand a chance. And you're right, it's not about a specific political party, but about underhanded mental manipulation.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  that's why school children have school teachers. teachers, get it?
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But it is not president duty to put foot into the schools. His duty is to protect us and our Constitution. This is why we voted for president.
  The schools are already socialistic, this is why we have troubles. I do not have any hope for country if socialism in school will continue.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, he took out the stuff about socialism and summer jobs with Acorn and learning how to make bombs in Chemistry class.
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  Patrice52posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, but I don't think the speech was ever published before you were screeming your heads off. The part that everyone was screeming about was in the work sheet concerning what the children could do to help the president, PRECISELY THE SAME QUESTION that George Bush, Sr., asked the children in 1991. I think you did accomplish something with all this screeming about indoctrination, conspiracy theories, and communism, and that was to make yourselves look just plain silly. I think we have a bunch of sore loosers here. Excuse me, but I couldn't hold this in any longer.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think its about sore losers, if conservatives didn't see this one being elected then they were blind! That does not mean Obama is at all competent to run this Nation, he has shown an amazing ability to "not get it!" A majority of us do not want government run health care! A majority of us are not happy with the job he is doing! But yet he continues to thumb his nose at us and continue on the road to a one term Presidency, I for one am enjoying the show. You Democrats or Liberals or whatever you may want to get him in line with the actual majority or get used to the minority once again!
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know Tex, I never thought George would be re-elected because of the crappy job he was doing but we saw what happened. (Did you get your limit on mourning dove last Saturday, or did your season open then?)
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I got my limit! But it opened on the first or at least I hope it did I went that day! Heard a lot of shotguns so I must have been good. Bush was a complete Cluster F@#K but I think the option was worse both times!
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Perhaps you are right, but the lack of options in every presidential election seems to be the rule rather than the exception. (Got my limit too! Thinking of switching to a 20 gauge, my shoulder hurts!)
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have always hunted with a 20 gauge, tried both 20 was always my preference. What is the limit there ours has changed to 15
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Same as here 15, I've always used a 12 gauge but will soon switch to a 20. Great shoot though, non stop shooting until the owner called a halt to save some birds for the next morning.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I go to my dads Ranch for the first part of the season because he is in the North zone, go to mine in Hondo for the South zone season. I could sit in my backyard at home and shoot more here than either ranch. I am surrounded by corn fields, but the city would probably frown on it.
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  Patrice52posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you hadn't given Obama's name, I would have thought you were talking about Bush. When his approval rating sank to an all time low, he thumbed his nose at us and went about doing what was in his opinion "best for us". I'm not too worried about a second term for Obama. It'll be a long time before people forget the Bush era.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As I stated before Bush was a cluster F#$K but make no mistake Obama is just as bad! How could we forget the Bush era liberals bring him up every 5 minutes.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Then from now on Presidents of the United States should not speak to school children at all, they should never appear in classrooms, and should never even be discussed in school?
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why are you saying it should be either/or? I already said I thought his speech, in it's final form, was excellent.
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Vladimir Uhri escaped from communistic Czechoslovakia by swimming across the Adriatic sea from Yugoslavia to Italy. Later he entered free America"
  
  I have a couple of points to make. Firstly, do you NOW consider Czechoslovakia to be a 'free' country? I've been to prague, seemed pretty free to me.
  
  And secondly, do you feel that as a non-American native, you have the right to dictate the politics of America? Im not saying that you have to be born in America to have a right to your opinion, but that perhaps you should respect the democratically elected government of the country that gave you a chance and a lifeline? The same people that welcomed you into their communities have voted for Obama to lead their country. You have the right, should you so wish, to return to the Czech Republic should you not be happy with the governance of America.
  
  Lets get something clear here, I am actually from the UK and live in the UK. I adore multi-culturalism, have friends from all sorts of backgrounds, countries, upbringings. But if I ever hear a non-British (and non-British does not mean non-white before somebody jumps to a conclusion, I live in Yorkshire - I see plenty of that BS) person being overly critical of my country, with I consider to be almost a lack of gratitude for opportunity, then I tell them in no uncertain terms "If you dont like it here, then fuck off home". An extreme example of this would be muslim immigrants pushing for Sharia law and holding placards saying "death to Britain" - In Britain!
  
  And no I am not racist, you have made the decision to live in America - America will be how it wants to be.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is Vlad a US Citizen? If so then you should "F#@K OFF HOME!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am home.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So is Vlad, <snipped personal attack>!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You can take my comment however you wish, but I was actually referring to people that hold up placards in London saying 'Death To Britain', as an extreme example. If you had a mini Tehran in Texas, with people waving placards saying 'Death To America' then you would probably be telling people to fuck off too.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No that wouldn't be my reaction! Maybe you should grow a pair and do more than whine about it, I would!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Like what? Try and get past three rows of riot police protecting the "freedom of speech" of those islamic people?
  
  Remember that once they have put their banners away, and have dispersed, there is no chance of identifying them again. Unless you are advocating "growing a pair" and taking it out on the hundreds of thousands of decent islamic people that walk amongst them on the streets?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is that your justification for letting your Country slip into a cesspool of Islamic extremism? I would get through those lines in a much different way, thats the difference between a Patriot and a victim!...Victim
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If watching my country "slip into a cesspool of Islamic extremism" is the alternative to spending my life in prison for becoming a vigilante, then watching my country destroyed is probably my preferred option - yes. It is a sad state of affairs, and France is having similar problems, but your quite correct in what you say.
  
  How exactly is it that you propose I go about my vigilantism? Attacking every muslim I see on the street? Just in case I strike it lucky and it is one of the 1 in 30 muslims with extremist views?
  
  Do you think I like seeing this:-
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5omD33H … re=related
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXCxmuuq … eature=fvw
  
  Well I dont.
  
  BUT EQUALLY Do you think I like seeing this:-
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3tg74jxOy4
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDrgrxr … re=related
  
  Well I dont like seeing this either.
  
  This is setting our country back years. These protests were hijacked by the far right. I am not a facist, so NO I wont involve myself in these types of protests. I am not a white supremacist.
  
  I would like our whole country, all colours, creeds, everybody to get on and love each other. But, unfortunately, there is a small minority (MINORITY) of muslims who seem to have other ideas.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your Country is being destroyed and you're afraid of prison? Don't refer to yourself as a Patriot! Patriots seek to protect their Country at any cost, the best way to refer to yourself is Coward!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Anybody that is prepared to spend their life in prison may not be a coward, but they are certainly idiots. You still have answered not my questions, how do you propose that I go about defending my country against Islamic extremism? Attacking anybody that looks Islamic? Sorry, not what I am about. You can refer to yourself sir as a 'thug'.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I told you what I would do, I know what you're about, whining about Extremist Muslims is not what I'm about! So watch your Country become more and more ridicules and "caring" the chances of Muslims doing that in public where I am is about zero!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You havent told me what you would do. Go on then, how would you fight islamic extremism?
  
  Your own soldiers, like ours, arent doing a great job of it in Afghanistan.
  
  But of course, you can take on the world?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You need to go back and read, you can read? Yeah we can take on the whole world and win! A couple of tactical nukes would straighten out Afghanistan, you know what a tactical nuke is don't you? Just because we don't fight the war in the way we could does not mean we can't! I wouldn't be too mouthy about the US Military, especially as you are cowering under your bed!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your an abolute moron. Always the American answer isn't it? Nuclear weapons?
  
  No regard to the millions of innocent human lives that would be lost, no regard to the deformed babies being born for centuries afterwards. No appreciation of how a nuclear war would probably kill Americans too - we do have something known as an eco-system you know.
  
  And most of all, once again, a complete failure to acknowledge that America are not the biggest Nuclear power in this world.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Obviously don't know what a tactical nuke is, who is the moron?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I know what a tactical Nuke is, the UK possesses them, . Never been used before, and I would put my bottom 'dollar' on the USA being the first to use them if it ever happens. Why? Because of morons like you.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thought the conversation was over...Rotten tooth
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've never even had a filling, go fix your dentures old man.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am old I got that way by listening and not talking when I shouldn't! You might try it sometime, but something tells me that alligator mouth usually gets your hummingbird ass in trouble.
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you fucking kidding? You're from Texas...should that explain your train of thought? Everything is bigger, right?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not bigger, better, its a whole other country!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know many Americans who wish that it was another country. George Bush - former president of Texas.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am one of those people, we could decide who immigrates here due their failing economy and make sure they don't bring their bad ideas to our thriving economy!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why not throw every non white out while your at it, before building a wall around your entire state, appointing a dictator, developing the Texas state ideology, and pointing a nuclear weapon at every country in the world? I guess that sounds like heaven to you.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Would that be your solution? I never said that, is it your contention anyone who would stand up and fight an enemy is a racist?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Muslim religion is not the enemy, that is perhaps what you find difficult to understand. There are 1.5bn muslims in the world. America does not have 1.5bn enemies.
  
  Did you know that the fastest growing world religion is Scientology? You have those on your doorstep...... are you going to erradicate those too? In case they ever attack the white-christian Peoples Republic of Texas?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "white-christian Peoples Republic of Texas?" I guess you do believe anyone who would defend their Country is a racist. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Im saying that attacking muslims is racist, in case they may be extremist, yes. Which is what you are proposing I do. Either that or shooting at my countries own policemen. Im not really sure what it is that you are saying I should do. Personally I think that you are bordering on insane.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Look Worm I don't care what you think! You have proven yourself to be a coward and I hope someone in your Country has the balls to stand up to Islamic terrorists, we know it wont be you so maybe you have a tougher sister! Either way I no longer care what you have to say, now go see a dentist and get something done about your chronic halitosis!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Fuck you arsehole. Go play with your toy Nukes you freak.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Brilliantly said!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  brilliant work, ryan. it's refreshing to let someone else deal with the stench for a change.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You know when you get so angry that you see red and start to shake? This man made me feel like that.... first time on this forum! A new low, probably the lowest that I have encountered..... Anyway, on with this job application
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's hard to tell if Tex is as dumb as he sounds or he's just a master baiter. Possibly both.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Probably a very sad man, with no enjoyment in his life; who needs to be controversial as his only means of excitement. And thus, probably a master baiter with a little too much anger (although I could recommend many more appropriate sites for being a master baiter )
  
  Life is too short to become bitter and hateful about everything. So pity is all that you can do I guess.
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think we're all the latter.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Im not so sure, there is a certain time in many peoples lives when...... well, being a master baiter becomes a lot more difficult
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's sad
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Dont get sad, Viagra is affordable for most
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is actually quite expensive.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh right, I wouldnt know *
  
  * Yet
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But will it be covered in our new Health Plan, that's what a lot of people are asking?
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Was that a question?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How much is Viagra in the US?
  
  Some NHS doctors actually refuse to prescribe it, and they retain the right to refuse.
  
  The NHS actually charges for Viagra, although subsidised. Something like $30 for 4 tablets (I just googled, but that was 2 years ago - may have gone down now).
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Like $6-$10/pill so about the same.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  about $5 at Sam's Club (or so I've heard )
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They sell Viagra at Sams??? By the pill?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not sure if they sell singles, but they have always filled the amount prescribed to me........er, I mean my friend who has ED.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hmmh!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He'stoo stereotyped. Looks like an alter ego
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yes, i know what you mean, but you're using the the term "man" rather loosely there. it's the right wing lunatic fringe that's going to cause problems for this country, and have been doing so for years. i back this statement up with the fact that it's been on vivid display on hubpages for a couple of weeks now.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Where? Get all you pictures of fire we'll burn them out!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I see fusha, but when I get that mad, soooo mad I feel I've hit a new low I rely on 'Preperation H' to handle whats set my but on fire.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  C'mon Blue Bozo, that all you got? Where did he get the toy nukes?
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  James S. Thorntonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's funny. I thought $cientology was on the way out after being publically deconstructed like so: http://seaarrrgh.com
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This thread is better than a movie, I'm only up to page 10 so far but gold star to this fella for being by far the biggest retard to grace the thread at this point (and there's been some stiff competition).
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He prefers the term 'tard. Sounds more folksy
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol, 'The engine's runnin' but ain't nobody drivin'.
  
  If I skip straight to page 34 and the cupcakes do I miss much?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No just maybe the wind
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Excuse me!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I want those crazy wee men
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who you calling crazy? Not me, I'm perfectly sane.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeaaaaaa...
  Moonbaby for next president on the moon
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Three cheers for Moonbaby, hip hip, hooray!, hip hip...
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Compliments from the left are just not compliments
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  'Tard is a compliment?
  
  I'm from the left?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're definitely to the left of me and no retard is not a compliment but I expect that would be as close to giving one as you would come and do I really have to explain a tactical nuke? Are none of you as smart as you claim?
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You weren't being called a 'tard due to any misunderstanding of what a tactical nuke is, it was due to everything else that came out of your mouth.
  
  Such as: 'we can take on the whole world and win!'
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe a bit much, but if we really went that far who knows, I think there is a large misunderstanding of what a tactical nuke is until you googled it. You want to end a war target the Hindu Kush and show your ass, do you think it might be a deterrent to terrorist nations? Maybe not the individual terrorist but those Nations supporting them, might cut down on the support. Nahhhh, what the hell would I know, you probably are ok with the 8 year war.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You sound like you'd like to give it your best shot.
  
  And seriously, every kid with a games console or a DVD player knows what a tactical nuke is these days, zis is no longer classified information.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Texan, I'm bored of winding you up now, but in all seriousness, would you? ^
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Shit Boy you can't wind me up, I'm not a shaker like Rotten tooth or a coward like Duck boy, so if you wonder if I want the US to take on the whole world? No! But I don't want to lose a bunch of Marines and Soldiers, Corpsman just to walk away and say that was a waste of time and personnel. If your talking about you, then I say come and give this old timer your best shot, but you won't like it!
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Fair enough, I can see sense in that, especially if you've served and seen the human losses first hand and can see them as a tragedy if nothing was achieved through those lost lives. But I think you can understand why I took exception to your earlier statement about taking on the whole world and winning, and forcing people to cower under their beds, etc.
  
  For the record you probably would beat me in a fair fight (being a Marine and all) but I'd fight dirty and kick you in the balls.
  
  This don't mean I like you or nothing.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I fight much dirtier than you little lady, and I have no intention of being friendly! So you done talking shit?
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes sir sir, permission to leave sir?
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well, mrvoodoo, now you see why this one's on page 37. and still, no one's home.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I can't even remember what this thread is about anymore, lol
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But It's funny ! Like little chldren
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And your still lost in the 70's all dressed up and nowhere to go! Or is it no one to blow, which is it Duckboy?
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hey tex (with a little t), i wrote a hub today, thinking about you and your ilk. go check it out. no, it's not the one on deeper awareness, you're far too shallow for that. it's the other one, about social discourse. i think you'll like it.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No thank you I have no interest in reading your Hub. How's that for social discourse?
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You missed nothing. Classic strawman arguments.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I consider the source and determine if my time would be wasted, with Duck its a pretty easy determination! And Duck, the Armadillo is still closed.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i had wanted to put either yours or tex (with a little t) names in the title, but they were only two cent keywords, very little traffic.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now thats a mean thing to say, wounded beyond words, wow you really know how to hurt a guy.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Tomorrow's homework.....pick a czar and get to know him....
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ROFL! Well done.
  
  Just like The Colbert Report wherein he profiles a district!
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  These people have no interest in Obamagods Czars, they are sheep blindly following the messiah and taking a stand against the imaginary racism that is causing his poll numbers to plummet!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do they come in colors?
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  sneak...lol.......
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I worked for a living, such formalities are unnecessary! You are dismissed in more ways than one!
  
  But I like your style, I may not give you a nickname like the other squirrels!
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry my computer just crashed, dismissed in more ways than one? What does that mean, if I get guys in black jump suits with night-vision goggles and assault rifles come crashing through my window later I will not be happy.
  
  I was kinda looking forward to the nickname, but that’ll have to wait for another time, I got beer and cigarettes and I’m gonna go blow me some shit up on the games console.
  
  It’s been fun.
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wanna play!!
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're always welcome to come play.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Drugs, beer and big explosions for all.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I just love those kind of parties!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Whoa! If you kick him in the balls you have to marry him! Didn't you read the rules killer?
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is that a military thing?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No its right there plain as day, 'If you kickuth the balls thou shalt marry the balls." Rule #213 of the new 'Family Handbook.'
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wow, I should have been married a couple more times then...Hee,Hee
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Did you bring popcorn?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  making it now
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I got the works laid out, I'm still only on page 13, I'm not sure I can stomach anymore. Gonna have to take a break.
  
  It's like the Jerry Springer show.
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You? Talking about respect? Gimme a break!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You dont even have respect for your own county Mischa. At least I can call myself patriotic and proud. And I guess you know what I am talking about.
  
  Keep on spamming Misha, just keep on spamming....
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You'll grow up eventually. Or not? Some people never do
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why is this an issue of me growing up? Its more an issue of my just taking a dislike to you, and being honest about that fact. No amount of "growing up" will change that. I guess that disliking a very popular hubber isn't ideal, but thats just the way it is - it will probably lose me friends, but thats fine with me. If you would like me to explain further then thats fine, otherwise - I am sure that you can at least appreciate my honesty.
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You do not have any idea what are you talking about.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So you cant answer my simple question. Do you think that your country of birth is NOW a free country? I dont know if that would be considered the Czech Republic, Croatia or where.... but I have been to both of those countries, and they are fantastic places.
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Leta Sposted 14 years ago
Because, as Madame X surely, absolutely knows, tksensei and I are a duo liberal spy plot team designated and dedicated to breaking up serious, serious conservative debate forum topics like this one.

Seriously. Folks. Believe it.

They're out there.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you and tk? life never ceases to amaze me...
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Tinfoil hat, bd, tinfoil hat, ...
  
  You've entered the twilight zone.
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jiberishposted 14 years ago
OK, here's my 'beef' with Nobama; on every issue from the begining, if the minority doesn't keep him in check he is inclined to stray. This speech is only this 'inspiring' since the parents got in an uproar. He would follow a different path if we didn't have him in check...It's tiring trying to keep digging every day about what he's doing and saying.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. This is exactly what happened.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Like I said...you keep believing that...
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  Davinagirl3posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have said it before... Why is it that, when it comes to publicly berating the president, the conservatives are totally against it... until we get a democrat president?
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I take it on a point-by-point basis. I guess you missed where I said his "speech was excellent".
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I guess you were not paying attention when Bush was kept in check. However he wasn't undermining the country as much.
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That one will have me giggling for a week. Thanks. *whew!*
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ditto
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Laugh if you want but I guess this would be a good time to bring up a question. Van Jones was not asked to resign, what does that say about the president and his beliefs? Jones being just one of many with a very shady background, will still remain as advisor. Does this not bother anyone?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm still trying to get through 3 levels of police line to show my anger at Muslim extremists, I don't have time to worry about Obamagod now!
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Jones escaped his turn in the news cycle by announcing his resignation over a holiday weekend. BHO further eased the pain by saying he was not asked to resign. The President couldn't admit a mistake was made. It all worked out in tidy bundle for the Dems.
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  Davinagirl3posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am not that conservative, but I live in Texas, so it is inevitable that I have many friends who are conservative. It seemed to be the popular argument, in the days of Bush, that it was "unpatriotic" to berate the president in public. I am not pointing fingers, because I believe anyone can say what they want. It is just ironic to me that many of the same people who wanted to persecute Natalie Maines, are criticizing the president in an international forum. I have really noticed the double standard in my own community.
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is not about "democrat". It is about socialism.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  One thing I have learned in these forums is that you can't just throw out words like 'socialism', it's above some peoples heads. You have to specifically explain or post a link.
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  Davinagirl3posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The concept of socialism is not "above my head". I have yet to make assessments about anyone's intelligence. I don't appreciate anyone making assessments about mine. I will gladly leave this thread now. Thanks for the futility!
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please don't take this personally, it was not directed at you. It was a general post, period.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Again, let me clarify, unless I use your name specifically, my post are general. No offense.
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  Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with you,..Nobama pushes it to see how far he can go.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Should I pick up a tin foil hat? This was meant for Lita
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pgrundyposted 14 years ago
Why is it that whenever anyone wants to promote some wingnut idea someone ends up saying it's to 'protect the children'?

I predict the next hysterical outcry will be that Obama's comin' after all the white wimmin.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That line went over very well in "Blazing Saddles"
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Mr. Obama is half black and half white, so neither blacks or whites can scream racism.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I would be equally upset if He was white as the driven snow.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A picture of GW Bush in the classroom during his term as president caused an astounding outraged cry from the left.
  
  Pot. Kettle. Black.
  
  And as for your slanderous accusation of racism, please show more respect to those of us on the forums you don't agree with .
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i think the outrage was because the book he was attempting to read was being held upside down.
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, at least there was no chance of him indoctrinating them with anything. Even five-year-olds know how to hold a book right side up.
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The more irrational the argument, the more emotional they make it. Another lady crying over Obama speaking to her kids, well she wants to play on our emotions. The deeper issue is some people are so opposed to Obama they will protest anything he does.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Or those who support Obama will blindly accept anything he says. It's a two-side coin. The best thing is not to take anything for granted, but to think critically anything what is cooked for you. One wouldn't eat food prepared from spoiled ingredients even if it looks okay, right?
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good luck finding that around here . . . .
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As you have asked of others, please don't insult those who disagree by insinuating that everyone here is blindly one-sided. I think that many of us overlap in some of our beliefs, and diverge from one another about others. I most certainly don't take everything the guy says as gospel, that would be lazy and asinine. As would be doing the same w/ Glenn Beck or his ilk. That's why this whole uproar is ridiculous. There's nothing rational about it. Let the kids hear the speech, talk to them about it, and encourage them to think critically about what they heard. There's no partisanship in that. Just makes sense.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Asking others to think logically is not insulting. An accusation of racism is.
  
  As I have said previously, I thought his final speech was excellent. Or am I not "allowed" to break out of my "mold" . . .
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are allowed to do and say whatever you like, and I (nor anyone else that I am aware of) never said any different. "Good luck finding that around here.." was a bit insulting, basically a regurgitation of the 'sheep' label. No big deal, just taking part in the conversation. For what its worth, so far I think you seem to consider many factors, and don't seem like you blindly buy into any one line of thinking.
  
  I certainly never meant to insinuate that I won't allow you to say or think something... Sorry if I somehow made you feel that way!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, I appreciate your candor.
  
  When I said "Good luck finding that around here.." I was not referring to anyone being "sheep". I firmly believe that everyone here has decided what they choose to think. I don't find a lot of that thinking logical, based on the facts. If others find that insulting there is nothing I can do about it. For myself, I am delighted when someone can best me on logic. It keeps one sharp.
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I love that attitude. Brain and (can I say?) balls, to boot!
  As I told Harvey Stelman, we might disagree till the cows come home on IssueX or CandidateY, but if we can civilly and intelligently debate with eachother -then we have found our common ground. I don't mind a good discussion, especially one where good points of logic are brought by both sides.
  Its like in high-school debate, where you have to argue both sides of an issue just to see how good your argument-building process is. It can be exhilarating!
  So, thank YOU for your candor. I will refrain from jumping on to a phrase or word and stick to the facts (except w/ tk, he has got me all hot n swoony w. the insults!)
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How about 'ovaries'
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  What was different in his final speech? Did you actually see an earlier draft of his speech. If so, please tell us what was different. Facts, please.
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am probably unpopular for doing it, but the majority of what Obama says will always be more logical than the likes of Glenn Beck. He thinks there is fascist and socialist symbolism in the art around Rockerfeller center. I do not make any apologies for finding Obama to be on the rational and right side, and so be it if conservatives get mad at me for that. I have done my research and actually would like Obama to be more liberal on health care. However, he is a politician and has to compromise more, but as a citizen I am free to speak my mind on these issues .
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  Davinagirl3posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ...and you have done so in a rational way. You have researched issues on your own, and from what I can tell, have kept an open mind.
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I try to keep an open mind and I realize as president he has to compromise on key issues. It sounds like the public option is off the table, and they have toned down the school speech. However, some are still implying their is something sinister lurking there, so I do not know what to say. Well they are free to feel that way I suppose.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  SP: I agree the speech has been very nicely cleaned up. The sinister aspect is gone.
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There was never a sinister aspect to the speech, I just think the lesson plan was sort of cheesy. Of course I am cognizant of the PR agenda behind making many things that Obama does look sinister and evil.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What sinister aspect are you referring to?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What "sinister aspect" is gone?
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  Kadmielsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  probably meaning that he is not mentioning how he is turning this country into a socialist regime
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  At least the fact that the suggested after-speech discussion on "How I can help the president" was changed to about "achieving their short- and long-term education goals"
  
  Gosh, be thankful that there is no Atheism class on the first day of school yet.... I remember having that when I was a secondary school student. And in college/university level Atheism class was mandatory.
  P.S. this class was called "Scientific Atheism"
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "At least the fact that the suggested after-speech discussion on "How I can help the president" was changed to about "achieving their short- and long-term education goals."
  
  The truth: There was nothing like that in Obama's speech, first or last draft. There was something like that in something put out by the U.S. Education Department which was deleted.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree. Deleted after they smelled the coming problem. ED wanted to kiss somebody's *** Just the beginning.....
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's hard to believe. Where did you go to secondary school and college?
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ralph, I was born and grew up in Soviet Union (USSR) R.I.P. Left it at the age of 32, after Gorbachev opened the curtain.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Born and raised in the "workers' paradise." That explains a lot. I've noticed a similar suspicion and distrust of government among other Hubbers who immigrated from former Soviet countries. You come by it honestly which is more than can be said of some of our native born critics.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We could all learn something from these Hubbers.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes we can, but they are viewing our government through a glass distorted by their experience much of which isn't applicable here or in other western democracies. Their perspective might transfer better in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt or Cuba.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you are right....
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Let's see... government take overs of GM, government bypasses bankruptcy court to break up Chrysler, government purchases $40 billion of AIG shares, government passes legislation applying narrowly and specifically to AIG executives, government forces GM CEO to resign, Fannie and Freddie guaranteeing nearly $5.5 trillion of mortgage debt...
  
  I'd say those Hubbers will feel right at home.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Those are temporary measures designed to help pull the country back from the bottomless abyss left by the Bush administrtion. Once we get out of the recession things will get back to normal, hopefully with some additional regulations covering the Banksters of Wall Street who are "too big to fail."
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Chrysler too big to fail
  GM too big to fail
  Wake up and see both Bush and Obama are morons!
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then it should raise a flag for you. Don't you think we can give you unfrightened free people some alarms? Or may be you think we are lying?
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hm, I wouldn't call it "paradise" even in " ". But we lived, we just didn't know anything else, were too brainwashed. BTW, I remembered more- in addition to Scientific Atheism we had other mandatory classes- Political Economy, Scientific Communism. Nice list?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "probably" doesn't get it. I've been unable to locate any earlier draft than the one he delivered today. I think there's been a whole lotta lyin' goin' on.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "probably" meaning that there was nothing about socialism in anything Obama said or thought of saying.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There was no mention of socialism in anything related to Obama's speech except in the lies put out by his critics.
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I happen to have deeper critical thinking skills then you will ever know. I cannot help but see you have been biased against Obama for over year per many of your posts here, but do not worry, many share your views. Also, the analogy about food prepared from spoiled ingredients is just odd. Obama has not done anything I find questionable in encouraging kids to go to school. I can assure you I have done my research and I considered Obama to be the best candidate for president. I am a proud American and I respect Obama, and just because you imply he is some sort of spoiled goods, well that just does not make it so.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't intend to offend your ego, I know that you are very well educated and you know your history better tan I do, because I've heard it many times here too. I've said what I've meant, no more. I think that in his speech children look like beforehand non-diligent. That's it.
  Have a nice Labor Day, all! I'm out to the sun now!
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  Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you keep open eyes you will see.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You don't have to read between lines here, no need. Saying about food I actually meant food, no hints to anybody.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  back in from the pool for some food~~
  
  ha, to protect the children, but as soon as they get home, they're subject to endless hours of foxnews propaganda stuff infiltrating their young minds. so they go zone out on warcraft and ipods~~~~ and wake up and do it again. no wonder no one knows how to think anymore. there is no attention span for most school age children any longer.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In defense of Fox News, they are the only media examining the background of say Van Jones. It's ok, to keep you children protected, but as an adult you should be receptive to facts.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Facts? Goodness, how does one determine those?
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sometimes you have to do your own research. For example the media is saying Jones stepped down because of his remarks on Bush, but fail to mention the other videos in his own words that would be detremental to this country.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, that was my earlier point. You have to look at many sources - and after looking at those other sources, and then hearing similar conclusions from Beck, well it just gets to be too much for some.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My TV is not stuck on Fox, nor do I limit my reading to forum posts. But there are some who get their info from chat rooms, and blogs, which is limited. My personal take is that I listen, and research and try to make my own opion. The sad thing is that there is so much information that sometimes it just makes your head spin.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just curious, what are your other sources? You sound like you're just overwhelmed with facts! That makes it tough.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Unlike you, perhaps?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, you are very unlike me.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  God bless diversity!
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I love facts, they are so much more interesting than hearsay.
  
  Here are some facts: Hot Air did the breakdown of Obama's speech. Was it about them?
  
  Update II: Hot Air ran the speech through a word frequency counter and found the following results:
  56 iterations of “I”
  19 iterations of “school”
  10 iterations of “education”
  8 iterations of “responsibility”
  7 iterations of “country”
  5 iterations each of “parents”, “teachers”
  3 iterations of “nation”
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And to think that people accused Obama of self-promotion!
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I noticed the iterations were copied off this blog:
  
  http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/07/o … -released/
  
  Why not just post a link instead of copying and pasting?
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for the reprimand
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hee Hee
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No reprimand, just think it is easier to post a link. Do as you like .
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you again, it is easier, from now on I will post the link to all that I read. This should be fun...............
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In question of Fox News, I noticed they were the only ones not covering Obama's live speech to the AFL-CIO. Fox reports what it likes, and it turns out Beck has it out for Van Jones because he used to work with a group that is trying to pull advertising from the Beck show. It was the best political move for Van Jones to resign, but Beck seems to have a vested interest in all this, and he just happens to work at Fox.
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ReuVeraposted 14 years ago
It’s a very sneaky speech….. manipulative. Negative in its back ground, I would say. But at first it looks like it’s an okay speech, President addressing schoolchildren on their first day of school, nice step on the first glance, why not, President is thinking about next generation, he cares about them….
For me it looked like all the kids are thought of like losers obviously, beforehand. As if from the very beginning they are expected to miss their classes, not to invest their best into study, not to listen to their teachers, etc. Is he giving ideas to the non-diligent kids?
I’m lucky that my son is out of secondary school already….
I myself went through soooo many addressing speeches in my time….. I was lucky that my brain works in that self-protecting way- it shuts to any sense in the speech, I listen but I don’t hear. I make my own decisions, I don’t listen to orators.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Very well put. You make points I had not considered previously.
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  SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Reuvera,
  
  I think you are speaking to your own prejudice about Obama. I know you have lived outside of the US, so I am not sure how familar you are with speeches that presidents give to their students. In 1991 Bush sr also gave a back to school speech to kids, and some commentators have commented on why other presidents have not done this since.
  
  Also, listening to AFL-CIO speech today I was impressed more than ever with Obama's logic, and his opposition is looking pretty negative to me. If you are so opposed to the speech do not listen, but you are the ones missing out.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  SweetiePie,
  Honestly, I am NOT prejudiced against Obama. "Back to school speech" is fine, no problem. The problem is not WHO delivers a speech, but WHAT and HOW is said in the speech.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  the best thing to do, if not you lose your step, and fall out of reality
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  RooBeeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  An excellent read, showcasing precisely why Americans need to be aware that behind the flashy smile and calculated demeanor, evil lurks. Don't be bullied by those who call you paranoid, or who say you are over-reacting. What happened to the America where we stood up for what we believed in? I'll tell you, that America is rapidly disappearing on Barack HUSSEIN Obama's watch, people. Sound the alarm and lock up your wives, playa in da House and we should all be very afraid.
  
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ha! Not even gramatically correct!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  but a direct quote
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
Being brainwashed is a terrible thing !!
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Madame Xposted 14 years ago
Oh brother . . .
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  brutha'
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  sorry . . .
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jiberishposted 14 years ago
Again, my question is this: If Obama is 1/2 black and 1/2 white how can either side be called racist?
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They can't - it's just the argument they pull out when they have nothing else. It's also childish.
  
  Besides, he's not 50-50. He's only 6% black, even though that's what he calls himself in the US. He's mostly Arab and Caucasian.
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Didn't you watch the republican convention?
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ryankettposted 14 years ago
Can I just say, what a fantastically honest and inspiring speech, and how great of Obama to invest his time and effort into the education system.

Perhaps I could offer a solution to those Obama bashers. As you may be aware, the UK and USA have some very close and traditional trade links. Would you perhaps be willing to trade Gordon Brown with Barrack Obama?

He is white, passionless, dumb, and slightly ugly. Seems to fulfill republican criteria perfectly. Whilst about 80% of Brits would love to have somebody like Obama in charge of our country.

Deal?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ask the Queen first
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Its not the Queens place to decide, she is just a discrete global celebrity. Unfortunately the Queen is not part of the deal, our country breaks a profit on her A great marketing ploy, we have the Queen and you have, errrmm..... Disneyworld
  
  Actually, maybe we could swap the Royal family for Disneyworld? Would be pretty cool....
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think the Queen is laughing at you !
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  She can laugh at all she wants, she is a non-entity now. Running out of money too apparently, put all of her money in the stock market....
  
  She still owns the largest diamond ever found though, and at least another £200m worth of jewellery, about 4 country estates, and pays no tax whatsoever.
  
  My heart bleeds for her!
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Queen hasn't been the same since Freddy Mercury died.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I absolutely adore people as yourself~~ what a great line~~
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We already had him...his name was G.W. Bush. Never want to see the likes of him again.
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Colebabieposted 14 years ago
Thanks for the offer, but I'll keep Disney World.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't blame you. I suspect that you would rather like to keep Obama too, such a shame.
  
  I guess that we will just have to keep buying coffee from you, and you can keep buying tea from us
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Seems fair
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Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago
Oy!
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
OMG, Nicomp! I am ROFLMAO.
"The Queen hasn't been the same since Freddie Mercury died."
That gets my vote for best line of the week. Or at least day.
Well, maybe of the hour.
How can we have a serious discussion with wit like that lurking about??? :lol :lol :lol
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks! I really miss Freddy. Don't you?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Freddy was more of a Queen that 'The Queen'....
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I miss Freddie. I was four when he died. I remember my mom playing Queen all day when it happened.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Freddy was a queen who was The Queen of Queen.
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
I must say I also was somewhat disappointed after reading the text of the President's speech.
I appreciate that it is difficult to write a speech to as diverse an audience as kindergarten through 12th grade.
Still, I felt he aimed a bit too high in his word choices -- quite a few polysyllable ones (notwithstanding the proponderance of the mentions of "I" as so many alert readers have pointed out).

Although his speech scored extremely well in passive sentences (only 2% -- quite excellent for an "inspirational" speech aimed at the call to action "STAY IN SCHOOL") as well as Flesch reading ease (a score of 71.4 is quite readable), I would have liked to see a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level score a little bit lower. His speech is 7.2 which means it actually went over the head of all of the elementary school students (except the GATE students).

All in all, he probably would have done better to at least break the ice with finishing "My Pet Goat" as suggested by Pam Grundy
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
Yes, I do miss Freddie Mercury. We keep Queen's Greatest Hits (two CDs) in the car for long trips. Nothing like the boys.
Although I love Paul Rodgers' voice, I just can't imagine him as the lead singer for Queen.
There is/was only one Freddie.
What a set of pipes on that man!
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I never got into Paul Rodgers. The guy has an awesome pedigree but his voice does nothing for me.
  
  Robert Plant was the ultimate rock voice. I know he's not dead.
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Colebabieposted 14 years ago
different way meaning violence?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No! I would throw raspberry berets and chocolate cake at them!
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
What's this about Bush not undermining the country?
Maybe I am getting two sub-threads confused.
Bush did not wave a placard in the streets of Britain. Oh, but perhaps he would have if he had not been kept in "check" (by who, Cheney???).

I guess it comes down to how one defines "undermining."
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
What? Are you saying Freddie Mercury was... gay? Shocking! Slanderous!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Say it isn't so! Next he'll be saying Liberace was too.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am also suspicious of Paul Lynde and Robert Reed.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ummm.... yes. I think he was a Tory too.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well, no one is perfect
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
A Texan, it appears you are getting your countries confused.
We're talking about crowd control in BRITAIN.
Berets and cake -- those are FRENCH (hopefully I don't have to spell out the cake reference for you).
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My bad, I guess euphemisms are not my forte!
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
That's not very nice to say, Nicomp
Just because someone sometimes wears torreador pants does not make them a full-blown Tory.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL. Well done.
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
I think one of the Darrens in Bewitched was also. I am not sure if it was Dick Sargent or Dick York and would hate to cast aspersions on anyone:-).
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, let us be kind to former sitcom stars. They endured so much in order that we might be entertained.
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Dick Sargent. And Mr. Brady
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jiberishposted 14 years ago
I want to know how to post a picture into the forums....
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, you don't. I'm tired of scrolling 5 screens down to get through the same picture in 5 straight quoted messages.
  
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please, I promise not to abuse the system.
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Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years ago
I'm so glad the conservatives in the room have stopped pouncing on the president's benign speech and have switched to the topic they're more comfortable--remembering gay stars. It would appear you had to take that extra Xanax for nothing. It's so scary to have the most powerful man in he world tell kids to work hard in school, no matter the obstacles they face, to become responsible, intelligent citizens.
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By the way, I am prepared to die to keep my Country from being overrun by Islamic terrorists!
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you hadn't noticed, there are more pressing issues facing our country.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There are other groups that are crashing planes into our buildings?
  
  And bombing British tubes?
  
  And African Embassies?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In fairness, although that was tragic (I shed a tear whilst watching the second tower going, and I shared your pain). There is not a country on this planet that has not experienced terrorism. Do you know how many terror attacks their have been since 09/11? Dozens, maybe even hundreds. It may have been a new thing to the US, but terrorism is no new thing to the UK. It has long existed.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So? It's still a pressing problem twas all I wanted to say. No one implied that we were somehow special. Cowardly attacks on subways are equally tragic, no doubt.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am in no way disagreeing with the need to fight Islamic extremism, and I believe that fighting in Afghanistan is essentially fighting that at the core. All cowardly attacks indeed, and something which must be erradicated.
  
  I am however disagreeing with ATexan's apparent suggestion that I should kill every muslim in the UK and that we should Nuke every innocent man, woman and child in Afghanistan.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Dick Cheney has bragged that Bush policies have prevented another terrorist attack since 9-11 ignoring the fact that several targets hit since 0-11have been hotels and banks in the Middle East, India and elsewhere owned by American companies. Aguably, the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld policies have increased terrorism around the world, not diminished it.
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I realize you've been TOLD to fear terrorists around every corner, but had you been paying attention to what's happening in our country/world you may have noticed there are too many other issues pressing down on families everywhere.
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  All in all, I'd rather be broke and unemployed than dead.
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Glad Bush sold you that story. Is there a terrorist at your door right now?
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Which you have now acknowledged through use of the 'edit' button
  
  Add Madrid to that, several attempts in Paris, I think Bali too....
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I need to stop and think before I "Submit"
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have made that pretty clear, but you havent explained how. Im not sure how old you are, but thats an easy thing to say whilst your countrymen are fighting and dying in afghanistan and you are sitting in front of your laptop. Keyboard warrior if ever I did see one.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Keyboard warrior? Son I have been in conflicts everywhere from Grenada to Kuwait city and some that are still classified! I have met many an enemy and dispatched them with extreme prejudice! As a matter of fact when this current dust up came about I was almost called back due to a certain skill I posses, but a bad heart stopped them from bringing me back! Keyboard warrior? I would rather be that than a coward!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And I would rather be a coward than a pro-nuclear pyscho. End of our conversation.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  OK Rotten tooth!
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
I'll tell you if you promise not to post that picture you linked to
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  how do you know? LOL
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
"A tactical nuclear weapon (or TNW) refers to a nuclear weapon which is designed to be used on a battlefield in military situations. This is as opposed to strategic nuclear weapons which are designed to threaten large populations, to damage the enemy's ability to wage war, or for general deterrence. No tactical nuclear weapon has ever been used in an actual conflict. They were a large part of the peak nuclear weapons stockpile levels during the Cold War."
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Colebabieposted 14 years ago
Everyone just take a deep breath... now let it out... feel better? No? Damn.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nuclear fallout?
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pgrundyposted 14 years ago
Hate: It's the crack cocaine of internet forums.
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jiberishposted 14 years ago
yippee....thank you
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Boy, boys, we don't care who has the biggest dick...
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  speak for yourself!
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats my kinda woman!
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  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well I doubt that.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're probably right
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I miss Sweetie pie....she would set you both straight.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
How do you explain Austin?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I can't! The Peoples Republic of Austin is a whole other topic.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's the one place in Texas I could see myself living
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then you know very little of Texas, much nicer places just 20 miles in any direction. If its the politics then it probably is the only place you would want to live, unless you like your freedoms, those progressives certainly don't!
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  Davinagirl3posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The views of a lot of Texans have NOT been represented in the current thread. I was born and raised in Texas and I was taught a little thing called courtesy and respect. We're not all like Yosemite Sam...
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Davinagirl3.....It's good to see you back.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just most of us, Daisy Duke!
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  Davinagirl3posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Daisy Duke? Alright, I can deal with that. She had a great ass.
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EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 14 years ago
I find it shocking that politicians would think to use a system conceived and designed to indoctrinate children in order to try and indoctrinate children.
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  Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol
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jiberishposted 14 years ago
I guess my family were cowards, leaving from communism.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He asked what I would do if Texas was the "Little Tehran" that England is becoming! He said he was a Patriot but would not risk prison to save his Country, I am not saying anything about those that had to flee a communist country Jiberish and you know that!
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I was trying to be funny in the absence of Sweetiepie.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you mean, will I attack muslims because they might be extremists........... behaviour like that would be destroying my country more than a few twats waving "death to britain" banners.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ryan, I've been reading, even if I haven't answered. You are in a difficult situation, thereis not much you can do to help your country. There is no way to stand up and fight against what's happening there. It's slowly happening here too.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Its difficult to fight, if Atexan really knew that much about the military then he would know that the Taliban in Afghanistan are an invisible enemy. Its much the same in the UK. Over 1 million Muslims, a handful of extremists. We have shut down mosques which preach hatred, and it only serves to push it further underground. You could line up 50 muslims against a wall, how do you know which one is extremist? MI5 and MI6 are doing a pretty good job at intercepting planned attacks, they arrest people regularly, and have without a doubt already saved many lives (and indeed, they share intelligience with the US). Atexan is suggesting that I become a vigilante and attack these invisible extremists, whilst I prefer to put my trust in those with the 'license to kill'
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Brave man!
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Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years ago
gotta run to take my kids to play miniature golf for the last time since, according to right wingers, the sky is going to fall and anarchy will rule after the president...oh it's so scary to say...TALKS to them. ;-)
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
Ryankett,
I'm sure you've heard the slogan, "Don't mess with Texas."
The big surprise is, it wasn't written by Texans .
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
No disrespect intended to you, Davina girl.
I was born in El Paso myself.
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
I have what I think is a great idea!
Since the US, expecially border statest like Texas, seem to have such a fabulous system for controlling illegal immigration, perhaps we can share this highly effective system with Ryankett and the Brits.
It's oh, so easy to look at a "race" of people and spot the "rotten apples" in the bunch, isn't it?
Get real.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If they are carrying signs that say "Death to Texas" you can certainly spot them, thats what Ryan said they were doing in Britain. Should you just ignore those who want to kill you? They haven't gone away yet, and who gives a crap where Don't mess with Texas came from, the car wasn;t invented here but we drive them!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You just do not make any sense whatsoever. Are you saying that you would shoot your way through three lines of your countries policemen, who are acting on orders, to attack people waving banners? Because using guns is the only way you could do it. And that makes you 'patriotic' and I am the 'coward'. Freak.
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James S. Thorntonposted 14 years ago
Thank god he had the balls to go after the repuglicans, saying they never have a solution to any problem.

Kerry never had the balls to do that. All he had to do was put the repug's ideas in plain daylight.

He didn't do that and let bush steal the election once again.

Imagine how different life could've been today if only Kerry had grown a spine when he needed to.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sheesh!
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Awwwww man, its 2009 get over it!
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  James S. Thorntonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're right, it doesn't matter.
  
  It's only the world's fate we're talking about here.
  
  Taking the world's fate in consideration kinda makes you want to vote for the least evil party (dems), albeit a spineless one.
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Mighty Momposted 14 years ago
And even if someone is waving a "Death to Texas" placard you do not have the legal right in this country to shoot them.
Much as you might wish this was the wild wild west or the days of the American Revolution, it IS 2009 - as you pointed out below.

People waving "Death to Texas" placards -- or whatever placards they want -- have a guaranteed right to free speech.
If they get out of line, we have paid enforcers in the form of police and national guard to deal with them.

Are you really saying you would go out there and take on an angry mob of protestors single-handedly? In your own country? Hate to tell you, but the only one that would hurt would be YOU. Then again, you might really enjoy the milieu in jail. Lots of people like you.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Its not running headlong into a mob I am talking about, not everything is a Rambo or Chuck Norris movie! I am Talking about extremists that are here to kill us and make no mistake they are here no matter what your Obamagod tells you! Let me worry about what I would do and you hide under the covers and let Government protect you, You do know its people like me that Government calls when they need the bad guys gone don't you? They don't call cowards to do the things that need to be done! Get out more quit relying on what you think you know about the world and actually see it!
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  War, w..., what is it good for?
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgpRzFUd4io
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You beat me to it!
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Tantrum.... now I have that song in my head...
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  TEX posted:
  
  Its good for getting rid of tyrants and wannabe tyrants! Sorry none of you understand that we don't play chess to settle our disputes, war is an ugly thing but sometimes necessary!
  
  Tex, I hear where you're comming from. But before you can have a war, it's usually proceeded by a revolution. It's hard to imagine having to stand up for something as large as the terrorist are, without a huge number of people behind you. I think Ryan is saying he feels like he cannot stand up alone.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know exactly what he is saying and I have called him what he is for saying it!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And I am happy being called a coward by you if you feel that it is justified, you are entitled to your opinion. I know that most people would probably call me wise, or sane.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Its good for getting rid of tyrants and wannabe tyrants! Sorry none of you understand that we don't play chess to settle our disputes, war is an ugly thing but sometimes necessary!
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jiberishposted 14 years ago
I wanted to repost this, as a talking point.:
Update II: Hot Air ran the speech through a word frequency counter and found the following results:
56 iterations of “I”
19 iterations of “school”
10 iterations of “education”
8 iterations of “responsibility”
7 iterations of “country”
5 iterations each of “parents”, “teachers”
3 iterations of “nation”
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Jibberish,
  
  I am fully supportive of taking this thread back on track, so would be very grateful if you could clarify something.
  
  There is an issue with some people of his use of 'I'.... can you explain why this is an issue?
  
  If he was to use the word 'we' more, as in talking about a united country, and keeping his personal story to a minimum, would this be more acceptable to you?
  
  Personally I feel that he was trying to use his own success story as a motivator, but thats nothing more than many everyday people do. His speech actually sounds pretty patriotic? And leans towards America a lot?
  
  Im not saying that your wrong, and they are your kids not ours, so I suppose I dont really have too much place debating - but just curious at to what your primary concern(s) are?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Ry.
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I () don't have a problem with his use of I especially in this speech. It is a story of life and how he overcame whatever to be where he is. 'You' could have been used more.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh.... I see, cool
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