Donald Trump tests positive for the coronavirus. Thoughts?

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  1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
    Stevennix2001posted 9 months ago

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    In recent news according to various sources, it seems President Donald Trump and the first lady have both tested positive for the coronavirus.   Trump tweeted that both him and his wife will begin quarantine immediately and try to get through it together.  What are your thoughts on this?  Do you wish them both well?  Will this affect the 2020 election?  Or your vote going forward?   Please discuss.   

    Edit:  Regardless of how anyone might feel about President Trump and the first lady, I do wish Trump and his wife a speedy recovery soon, and hopefully nobody else at the debate the other night was infected.

    1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
      Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      If truth is told, I wish them recover by the power of the Great God.                                           However, an army general has suggested on facebook the tweet be investigate if it were actually Pontus Trump did the tweet!                                                                           But my mindset is why did not the attack occur during the very early stage of covid-19 But now when voting is around the conner? Too bad! I wish Pontus recover soon! Where were the Billy Graham and likes to pray through? God save America! God save Trump!

      1. GA Anderson profile image91
        GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Miebakagh57, it is to your credit that you led with your well-wishes. As for that army general, I think he is wrong.

        GA

    2. peterstreep profile image81
      peterstreepposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      On an international perspective:
      Just wondered why Boris Johnson, Jair Bolsonaro and Donald Trump all three have/had COVID. All three downplayed the disease and have/had a chaotic government policy.
      Is there a similarity here between these three, or is it just coincidence?
      I think personally all three have a lot in common.
      I think Trump won't have much trouble with Covid, just like Johnson and Bolsonaro. Only a small majority who had COVID dies.
      And in general, poor people die, rich people have the best doctors and treatment in the early stages. So I think Trump will recover just fine.

      1. abwilliams profile image67
        abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Because leaders don’t typically wring their hands, before crawling under a rock and hiding, during crisis.
        As far as the numbers of those dying, the majority being senior citizens, mostly in nursing homes, I suppose some were rich and some were poor and some were middle-class.

    3. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
      Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Trump and wife will get over it. I pray the hand of God to heal them in Jesus name....https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

    4. MisterHubs1982 profile image89
      MisterHubs1982posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I'm not surprised that he contracted the virus, or that he became a superspreader, or that those around him also contracted the virus. None of this surprises me as he never bothered to handle this situation properly. That said, as of this reply, he is recovering; but now there is concern as to how long ago he first contracted Novel Coronavirus-19; he's also spreading the disease in the White House as we speak, so plans will need to be radically altered in Operations there.

      To say this is a nightmare aka worst case scenario would be close to true, but we can still do OUR part and continue to wear our masks, continue social distancing, and to wash our hands often (along with the rest of the body daily) while not touching our faces.

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
        Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I for one can agree with all that you said. Excemption is that people can not help touching their faces.                                                                     Seriously, how many times have you touch your eyes today? It can't be done! Even if the eyes were itching, it can't be done.                                                                Heck, all the part of the body can be touched. The limbs, the head, the ear lobes, the chest, and the back. And the face is not an no go area.                                                                             I and you were human beings with an animal nature. It will take one a strong will power to not to touch the face.                                                                      Have you imagine that before the covid-19 pandemic, medical doctors hadly take they hands of their faces? They can't help it. It is second nature...

        1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
          Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          ... Now to not to touch the face is to bring the law of reserve effort into operation. The law says where the will and the imagination came into conflict, the day belongs to the imagination.                                     Should it happen that they is no conflict, harmony is resulted. Also, when a picture is clear cut, one go and do it naturally.                                               Watch a doctor to see if he/she can desist from touching his/her face in a practical manner. Due to this specific law of reserve effort, I can bet many doctors will fail the test.

    5. Nikki Avail profile image87
      Nikki Availposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I do hope they get well soon. According to their personal pages, they seem to be doing fine. I'm hoping that maybe him contracting the virus will give him incentive to take the virus a bit more seriously, rather than politically. It seems both the Democrats and Republicans are more compelled to disagree with each other over pride. We should be working together, putting pride and differences aside, to help everyone as a whole.

      1. IslandBites profile image89
        IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I'm hoping that maybe him contracting the virus will give him incentive to take the virus a bit more seriously, rather than politically

        It didn't.

        1. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
          Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

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          1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
            Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I give him the benefit of the doubt while he is in the recovery state.                                                The point is Trump is neither a policeman nor a politician. When he fully recovers, then only then the legacy of your remarks can stand.

      2. MisterHubs1982 profile image89
        MisterHubs1982posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I'm hoping that maybe [Donald Trump] contracting the virus will give him [the] incentive to take the virus a bit more seriously, rather than politically.

        You innocent child. We would all love this to happen, however, reality says otherwise. As for us Democrats and our fellow Americans, the Republicans, we should be working together, but they have decided otherwise as well. Still, we can hope for the best in these times.

  2. IslandBites profile image89
    IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

    IF he is sick, in a sane world this should cost him politically. (Even when discussing the deaths of more than 200k americans at the debate, he still mocked the use of masks.) But we know it is not (a sane world). So maybe it will get him points. How? The same as in:

    IF it is a lie/strategy (which im not 100% sure yet it isnt) then it is the perfect move. First, it is a distraction from the debate disaster, especially the white supremacists issue fallout. And as a bonus, no more debates. Second, it would get him some empathy points. Third, it would probably put Pence in the spotlight and would serve as the perfect excuse to get off the run if he thinks he's going to lose. His ego wont let him take the chance.

    In any case, if it is true, I wish both of them to get well soon.

    1. Genna East profile image85
      Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I have to agree with Island on all points.

    2. Credence2 profile image81
      Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I was thinking about just such an attempt at a ruse last night. His handlers may consider this the best way to get him away from the debate format.

      For his sake, he better hope that his symptoms do not exceed that of the common cold.

    3. lions44 profile image98
      lions44posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Trump really does have COVID. No conspiracy theory for this one.

      It's too embarrassing for him and his family after 8 months of downplaying the virus. Wish him and everyone well.

      Plus, Amy Coney Barrett had it in July. She was with him last week and might still be a carrier. Mike Lee has it now and i"m sure many other members of the Senate will be diagnosed shortly.  Look for most of the WH staff to test positive as well. This is very serious and incredibly sad. 

      Please wear your mask everyone. We don't need anymore COVID stories. Stay well!

      1. IslandBites profile image89
        IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I just read that "The University of Notre Dame's president, the Rev. John I. Jenkins, who was present at Judge Amy Coney Barrett’s Supreme Court nomination ceremony at the White House on Saturday, has tested positive for the coronavirus". Also, "Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel has tested positive for the coronavirus."

        1. IslandBites profile image89
          IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Three journalists who work at the White House tested positive on Friday, according to a series of memos from the White House Correspondents Association.
          A White House staffer who sits in the "lower press" area of the West Wing also received a confirmed positive result on Friday morning.

          1. IslandBites profile image89
            IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Thom Tillis of North Carolina, another Republican senator who was in the Rose Garden on Saturday with the president and countless others has now tested positive for coronavirus.

        2. GA Anderson profile image91
          GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I have also seen various news blurbs that are pointing in the direction of Ms. Barret's nomination ceremony as a source for these new infections.

          GA

          1. IslandBites profile image89
            IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Yes. Makes sense. But if true, that is a week of multiple contacts with people, and since most of them do not wear masks it can get uglier fast. I hope they can trace and control the spread.

      2. lobobrandon profile image89
        lobobrandonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        8 months of downplaying for him to be cured without any serious effects would help push the agenda that it is no big deal and just another flu. This can be spun in either way.

        1. Readmikenow profile image97
          Readmikenowposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          You make a very valid point.  I actually never thought of such a thing.  BUT, it was pointed out to me by a Democrat that if President Donald Trump gets past this with little or no problems, he can come out and tell people he survived Covid 19.  He has personal experience with it.  He knows about it from personal experience.  That would be a plus for him.

          1. crankalicious profile image93
            crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Shouldn't he just take the miracle drug hydroxychloroquine and everything will be just fine?

            Looks like he's off to Walter Reed Hospital, so perhaps this isn't quite a mild case? He's also taking some special experimental drug that's in Phase 3 trials.

            And even with all that's going on, masks in the White House are still optional.

            I suspect that if Biden had contracted the virus instead of Trump, Trump would have surmised that Biden caught it because he was either weak, old, or generally unhealthy.

            Hopefully he recovers quickly and emerges with more empathy for people who have suffered from COVID and lost people to it. Hopefully he realizes the importance of wearing masks and the danger in exposing other people to it.

            Trump was never concerned about catching the virus. From Woodward:

            When Woodward pressed the President about whether he was worried about becoming infected, Trump dismissed concerns about his own health.
            "You're risking getting it, of course," said Woodward. "The way you move around and have those briefings and deal with people. Are you worried about that?"
            "No, I'm not. I don't know why I'm not. I'm not," the President responded.
            "Why?" Woodward asked.
            "I don't know," Trump said. "I'm just not."

          2. lobobrandon profile image89
            lobobrandonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Seems like I was right, he just tweeted that people should not be afraid of Covid - 19. He should maybe convey this message to all those that have died. Such insanity.

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
              Stevennix2001posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              To be fair, people have died from the flu as well as not everyone's body will react the same way to viruses as another person's body would.

              1. wilderness profile image96
                wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I don't think that "fair" is a part of the plan of attack on Trump.

            2. crankalicious profile image93
              crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Brandon, not just insanity, but idiocy. We haven't seen this level of stupidity in a President in the history of our country. A complete abdication of intelligence, science, and respect for America and its foundations. It's incredible that he will receive even a single vote in the upcoming election. You'd think that after contracting COVID he'd be more supportive of the protocols doctors advocate for avoiding contracting it, but instead he's doubling down on risky behavior, pushing people who don't have anywhere close to the resources he has to model his behavior and contract the virus as well. He had the gall to make fun of Biden for wearing a mask, then contracted the disease himself. He put countless people in harm's way. It's astonishing.

              And yet, strangely, I probably agree with him on how to proceed. Fu** it. This thing has become so politicized there's never going to be consensus.

              Let's just all go maskless. Fortunately, I'm in great shape and have an incredible immune system (I've never had the flu and never needed to stop working even when I had mono - though I should have but I didn't know I had it until it was too late). So, I'm not going to suffer and am not the least bit worried about contracting it. Some of you older people though, you're going to get it and die. That's just the way it is. I'm very sorry about that and feel bad that you're the front-line soldiers in this war. Remember, it's for the greater good. Our economy will be healthy again. People will get back to work. The stock market will climb. I'm sorry some of you won't be around to see it.

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                PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                He probably thinks his actions today displayed strength, and it probably did, but only to his die-hard supporters. I have a feeling the majority of the American people saw his actions today as reckless, irresponsible, and stupid.

                By the way, has he shown any regret, empathy, or concern for any of the people in his sphere who are COVID positive?

            3. Ken Burgess profile image88
              Ken Burgessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Telling people to live their lives and not cower in fear over a virus (with a extremely low death rate for those without contributing health issues) is what I would hope any President would do.

              There are literally TENS of millions of people without jobs, or closed businesses... without hope of ever getting back on their feet in the near future... because of draconian 'shut down' policies and lack of support from Congress to help the people get through this.

              Out of those tens of millions of people whose lives have been turned upside down, more will likely commit suicide, overdose on drugs, or be unable to afford their prescription drugs to keep themselves alive because they lost their income, than will die from the virus itself.

              The stupidity of the virus "death count" is as stupid as all the other propaganda they have peddled the last four years... where is the death count for how many died from Heart Disease? 

              Something you are far more likely to die from than Corona. 

              Only 5% of those who died from Corona didn't have other serious contributing factors.

              BTW what is the alternative to Trump?

              An establishment stooge that is in the back pocket of China?

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwhnao15rmI

              Funny how Biden gets a "Free Pass" for his (and his families) involvement with China and the Ukraine... but Trump is blasted for being a Russian colaborator, despite never being in politics before now, and despite nothing like the 1.5 Billion that went to Hunter Biden's firm ever going to Trump or his kids.

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                PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I am so sick of the stupid assertion that wearing a mask and social distancing is "cowering in fear." Do you realize how utterly disrespectful you are to, say, a veteran who survived three tours in Viet Nam, was shot, stabbed, had his fingers cut off, leg broken, and so much more, and you now say he is "cowering in fear" for taking simple precautions to avoid an illness that could kill him?

                Will you stop for a moment and think about how absurd you sound?

                And where is that proof of Nancy Pelosi's corruption?

              2. crankalicious profile image93
                crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Man, Ken, I think you are a pretty smart guy who makes some pretty incisive comments about the state of the world and geopolitics, but that is a dumb answer.

                Who is cowering in fear? Why is taking sensible precautions, based on overwhelming scientific data, cowering in fear?

                Fact is, the country could get back on its feet if people would just take those precautions, but too many refuse. And when we have a vaccine, we're still going to have a problem because too many people will refuse to take it, probably believing that the government is injecting them with some kind of mind control.

                And obviously comorbidities are an issue, but isn't that the whole problem? Our country is unbelievably unhealthy (I think you've written about this, no?). People are too fat. Their diets are too full of processed foods. We allow corporations to feed us garbage. The biggest comorbidity with this virus is obviously age.

                We're basically in a Catch-22 right now. The GOP just wants to take the guard rails off and let the cars jump the track. Sure, do that. And a lot of people are going to die, many of them in Congress, so perhaps not a bad idea. We have 210,000 deaths now. How about 10x that?

                Personally, I'm more or less living my life the same as I always have. I've been out riding my bike, exercising; etc. However, I make fewer trips to the store and try to stay away from crowds and always wear a mask when I'm out and about. I haven't had so much as a sniffle in the last 9 months. But even where I live, in a really liberal town, people simply cannot follow basic guidelines. The store, for instance. People are going in groups like it's a social gathering. It's unbelievably rude and inconsiderate. It creates lines. It endangers others unnecessarily. It's ridiculous.

                I really want to take a vacation (we love Florida), but I'm not getting on a plane. Are you? I'm sure the GOP and the anti-mask crowd can get this country back on its feet. Go eat out. Go to football games. Go get on planes.

                And I'm not a huge Biden fan. You're right, he's a political hack, but he hasn't personally benefitted from any of these financial arrangements. And if he has, it's not very much. Basically, it boils down to him being a decent guy, which pretty much everyone says he is. Maybe that's not very much. We should certainly aspire to more from our elected officials. But compared to that dangerous idiot we have in the White House now, I'll go with it.

                Everything you see in our country now - the chaos - is Trump's America. It is a perfect metaphor for the man in charge. There's no leadership. The shining beacon on the hill is a strobe light that's causing convulsions. There's no decency. There's no logic. There's a shocking lack of intelligence and promotion of outright stupidity.

                Thanks, I'll have the opposite.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Excellent.

              3. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
                Kathryn L Hillposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                ... its not rocket science, either!

              4. Readmikenow profile image97
                Readmikenowposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Ken, you make a valid point.

                For the record approximately 800,000 people die annually from heart disease in the United States.

                I'm sure if we were hit with the death count from heart disease daily in all aspects of the media...people would be terrified of it.  As it is, nobody makes a big deal about it...so, people shrug their shoulders at heart disease deaths.  I often wonder if liberals know they're being played?

                This is from the CDC

                More than 800,000 people in the United States die from cardiovascular disease each year—that’s 1 in every 3 deaths, and about 160,000 of them occur in people under age 65.

                Heart disease kills roughly the same number of people in the United States each year as cancer, lower respiratory diseases (including pneumonia), and accidents combined.

                https://millionhearts.hhs.gov/learn-pre … 0combined.

                1. Nathanville profile image94
                  Nathanvilleposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  SO....If you don't lead a healthy life style, and don't eat a healthy diet then you only kill yourself (heart attack); if you don't wear a mask you kill others.

                  1. Readmikenow profile image97
                    Readmikenowposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    That is not necessarily true.  The recovery rate for those who have Covid in extremely high. 

                    This is also from the CDC.

                    "The US seasonal flu has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1% to 0.2% – lower than the current CFR for COVID-19."

                    https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-ri … -19-by-age

                    Now this is for the United States.  I don't know if this is applicable in the UK.

                    1. crankalicious profile image93
                      crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      That's a great link. You should read it.

                      The case fatality rate for COVID is 2.8% as shown by the chart in your link as of October 6, but it was above 6% in June. So you understated the CFR by a factor of between 20x and 60x.

                      For the elderly, the CFR (in Italy) was 20% and is very high in other places.

                      As for the comparison to heart disease, that's just got to be one of the dumbest comparisons I've ever seen. Liberals are being played? Do you even understand why using heart disease to compare death rates to COVID makes so little sense? I shouldn't have to explain it.

                      Further, a direct quote in the article regarding the question about how likely a person is to die when they contract COVID:

                      "The key point is that the “case fatality rate”, the most commonly discussed measure of the risk of dying, is not the answer to the question, for two reasons."

                    2. Nathanville profile image94
                      Nathanvilleposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      The fact remains, not wearing masks does kill others.  That's why the USA has one of the highest death tolls from Covid-19 in the world.

                2. Miebakagh57 profile image53
                  Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  What America need to prevent the heart disease, cancer, and...is F. Daniel sciense!

            4. Miebakagh57 profile image53
              Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Too harsh!

        2. GA Anderson profile image91
          GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          ^5 Lions44. An exemplary comment.

          GA

        3. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
          Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Good advice......http://hub.me/anPYj

      3. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
        Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I pray for him anyway, and God will take control......https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

        1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
          Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          God hears and answer prayers.

          1. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
            Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Do you believe the fact that Bill Gates was a huge pretender? Do you believe in his vaccine? Do you believe in the controversy theory against him?  http://hub.me/anSfO

    4. profile image0
      PrettyPantherposted 9 months ago

      My first thought was, it was only a matter of time.

      Second thought: I hope he and Melania will be okay. 

      Third thought: I hope Biden didn't contract it.

      Fourth thought: I really don't know if it's true or not.

    5. GA Anderson profile image91
      GA Andersonposted 9 months ago

      It is tough when one is disappointed that they weren't disappointed about what comments to expect on this issue.

      A "ruse," "if it is true" . . .

      And of course, the begrudged, but obligatory, "I wish them well."

      So now, Onward . . . to the political impact. I don't think this would get him any 'sympathy' votes, and if he has to quarantine more than the recommended 14 days I can see this costing him the election.

      This is not meant to be a slam against Biden, but with Pres. Trump sidelined from the campaign trail Biden will have to do a lot less defensive campaigning. As in less "Trump bad" ad expenses and more "I promise" ad spending.

      GA

      1. IslandBites profile image89
        IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        And of course, the begrudged, but obligatory, "I wish them well.

        I guess you read minds now.

        I do wish them well. (As I wish anyone that is sick and everyone with COVID. As I expect other do the same to my grandma, aunt and cousin.). I would have said otherwise without a pause.


        Btw, if you're going to quote me, I said empathy, not sympathy.

        1. GA Anderson profile image91
          GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          It was a statement, not a quote. And generally speaking, it came as a final thought, not a first thought.

          I apologize for my cynicism. The responses, (both here and in the media), were what I expected. Considering that Pres. Trump is in the most 'at risk' group I was hoping for well-wishes to be the lead and not the close. My hopes were not met.

          But, in the vein of an olive branch, the comments, here, so far, have been much more civil and honest than those presented by the anti-Trump media.

          I am too damn old for this nonsense. Some idiot yahoo in a bubble of their own self-importance can tweet or Facebook a blurb and all of a sudden it reaches national prominence. The media pounces on it like a revelation of the Gospels. Whoever coined the phrase 'Get a life' should get some kind of reward.

          GA

        2. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
          Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I pray for grandma to get well speedily in Jesus name, and in the same vein God will heal Trump and wife speedily too in Jesus name.....https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

      2. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        One has to wonder. I assume it's true since I don't see any advantage for him in contracting COVID. Given how he has ridiculed mask-wearing, I just hope he has not passed it on to anyone else.

        Somebody appears to have predicted this very thing though:


        https://hubstatic.com/15224738.png

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          PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I think it's probably true, but it is quite reasonable for us to wonder, given the level of lying this president and administration has displayed.

          1. savvydating profile image91
            savvydatingposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Just so you we all know, when we (sincerely) wish someone well.... we do not say, "I wish him well, but..." Because everything that anyone says after "but" Negates anything they said before.

            1. GA Anderson profile image91
              GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              ^5 Or when the 'wishing well' is the close and not the lead.

              GA

          2. GA Anderson profile image91
            GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Do you really believe that is a possibility Sandy? I know that, politically, things are bad, but are they really bad enough for you to consider that thought?

            GA

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
              Stevennix2001posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              You'll be surprised what people are capable of.  We've seen Kim Jong Un make empty threats to go to war with us over "The Interview" film, and we've seen a news reporter fake his illness for ratings as LTL was alluding to.   However, I'm just going to give President Trump the benefit of the doubt, and take his word that he is sick for all the reasons Lion44 said. 

              Plus if he was lying about this, then can you imagine what would happen if the media and the rest of America found out?  I'm sorry I don't care how big of a Trump supporter a person is as there would literally be no excuses or spin to justify his actions even to his voters; unless someone was that obtuse about things.   Therefore, I'm just going to take his word for now.  If any evidence comes out to the contrary, then I'll be the first to admit I was wrong, but not before.

              1. GA Anderson profile image91
                GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                The possibility that this is a 'ploy' is not one that I can seriously consider.

                GA

                1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
                  Stevennix2001posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I can understand that .  I don't want to consider that possibility either, which is another reason why I doubt Trump and his would lie about something like that, as I can imagine that would do more harm than good if the truth got leaked out if it was a ploy.    Plus that would be a huge low for anyone to do honestly, when you consider how many innocent people are dying from this disease.

                2. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
                  Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  What's your take, do you believe Gates controversy theory of trying to chip people with covid19 vaccine, and the fact that he is working to reduce the world population with the vaccine? http://hub.me/anSfO

                  1. GA Anderson profile image91
                    GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Since you are still doing it, maybe you will see this. You must understand that you are spamming the forums and it is not welcome. There is no way I would click any of your self-promotional links. It's bad form fella.

                    GA

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              PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Yes, Trump's lying is that bad. Now that he has been transferred to Walter Reed, I am no longer doubting the truth of it. It was a tiny doubt, in any case.

        2. GA Anderson profile image91
          GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Geesh, And this is the state of our political society. I am now even more motivated to get to my mountaintop plot, (alas, I can't afford to yet), and just let the world go to hell as I finish out my years in the bosom of nature.

          GA

          1. Ken Burgess profile image88
            Ken Burgessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Similar minds and all that...

            Closed on the new home last week, have had countless meetings with contractors since.  While doing a lot of work on my own (Painting ceilings, replacing doors, removing all the carpet, etc.) Security system(s), HVAC, electricians, shutters, carpenters.

            Prior to putting in our offer and having it accepted it felt like we were in a race against time to find the right home, in the right place, and get all the essential work done before November.

            Sooner or later that other shoe is going to drop... sometime between November and January is a good bet.

            1. GA Anderson profile image91
              GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Ha! My roadblocks to moving are a bit more basic. I have a couple of dozen acres on a mountain top with a fantastic view. But there are no services. No electricity, no water, no nothing except the land and the view.

              I can deal with sewer and water, (there is a mountain spring close by), but the electricity problem is not one I have managed yet. It's a solar/batteries issue that I still have to figure out and afford.—this is not cheap.

              But, when I can get the electricity thing figured out I am outta here. I will gladly watch the world go to hell as I watch the sunset over the mountains.

              GA

              1. Ken Burgess profile image88
                Ken Burgessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Look into Tesla Solar & Power Walls, with the 26% tax incentive this year it knocks a good chunk off the cost.

                I guess install would be the bigger problem if you are that far out... but the concept is sound, Solar with Power Walls = no need for Grid.

                I have started the purchase of such myself, but I am holding off on commitment to it until I am confident there are no "surprise" expenses to rear up on the property.

        3. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
          Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I agree 100% with you, God will heal them perfectly in Jesus name......https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

    6. Live to Learn profile image79
      Live to Learnposted 9 months ago

      I believe Chris Cuomo holds the title of covid liar. I doubt Trump is lying and I wish him and Melania a speedy recovering. And,
      I, too, hope Biden didn't catch it.

      1. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        What did Cuomo lie about? I looked that up and only found links on Fox News.

      2. Miebakagh57 profile image53
        Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Good talt my man. Who else wants to contract the deadly corona virus 2019? A mere cold virus is fatal! But covid-19?

    7. Genna East profile image85
      Genna Eastposted 9 months ago

      Firstly, Trump is a human being...so it is understandable that we genuinely wish him a full and speedy recovery.  And we do.  He has the best health care available in this country.  For example, they might give him steroids, etc., to curtail any worsening symptoms in keeping with his age. 

      Nevertheless, I imagine he won't want the public to know if he suffers more than "mild symptoms," and emerge the conquering hero and "symbol of strength."  Make no mistake...sadly, Trump will use this any way he can to help him in the election, in accordance with the twists and turns of a truly devious mind.

      1. savvydating profile image91
        savvydatingposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        "...Trump will use this any way he can to help him in the election, in accordance with the twists and turns of a truly devious mind."

        What a disgusting thing to say about someone who may very well die.

        1. GA Anderson profile image91
          GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I hesitated to say the same thing in a previous comment.

          GA

        2. crankalicious profile image93
          crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          How can he possibly die? Remember hydroxychloroquine. He should be fine.

        3. Genna East profile image85
          Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I could say a lot more as I lost a friend to this disease.  We all know the mistakes this administration has made -- mistakes for without which could have saved lives.  It is an uncomfortable truth for some who may wish to deny it...but it is a disgusting truth to others such as myself, and other friends and family members of those who have passed away.   I stated we well wish him a speedy recovery...and we certainly do.  It does not change what he has done, and what he chose not to do.

          1. abwilliams profile image67
            abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Savvy makes the comment, "what a horrible thing to say about someone who may very well die" and your response is to double down with, "I could say a lot more......"
            He didn't conjure up this God-forsaken virus! China did! Blame China....they are the reason your friend died!!!
            What is wrong with people?!?
            Dems were all over the news; doing press conferences, doing live action shots from Chinatown, tweeting, defying the President, calling him racist, calling him xenophobic, heartless and on and on....because he dared to act.....now here we are today and you could say a lot more!!!!!
            I could say a whole lot more and I may before it is all said and done!
            Unfreakingbelievable

            1. profile image0
              PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              She is merely saying that far fewer people would have gotten sick and died had our nation's leader more thoroughly heeded the advice of pandemic  scientists and doctors.

              It is merely the truth. You are, in my opinion, overreacting.

              1. Genna East profile image85
                Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Thank you, Panther.  That is exactly what I meant...the truth needs to be said.

                1. Genna East profile image85
                  Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  And I don't think in term of politics of "the Dems", etc.,. or "us versus them."  It is so incredibly tedious, and solves nothing.  I'm an Independent, in more ways than one it seems.

              2. abwilliams profile image67
                abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                No, I am definitely undereacting.

            2. crankalicious profile image93
              crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              If he didn't want to get the virus, he should have worn a mask and followed the guidelines. Certainly, some people follow all the protocols and still get it, but clearly not following them raises your chances of contracting the virus. Apparently he blames being around the military and the police. I'm confident he'll be fine. After all, he's in the best health of any President ever. So he's got that going for him. And I'm sure he'll get hydroxychloroquine, which is a miracle. He's got nothing to worry about.

            3. peterstreep profile image81
              peterstreepposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I'm just reading all the comments in this thread. All seem reasonable and then Boom! The first aggressive tone in the posts.
              Maybe it's time to put the kettle on, pour yourself a cup of tea and relax a bit.

              1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
                Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Smart alec, I never realize 'Boom' wake me up to go for a cup of tea, because I just took out a loaf of bread from my freezer. You're welcome to the discusion.

                1. peterstreep profile image81
                  peterstreepposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  ?

                  I'm not going into this discussion.as I feel I'm to far away of it. It's an American affair.
                  But I find it interesting to read all the comments here.
                  To be honest, I'm sick of the whole year. 2020 is a year to forget as soon as possible. Problem is, we still have a couple of months to go...

                  1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
                    Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Agreed. What tired me out was Donald Trump and the covid pandemic. 31 December, 2020 is not too far away. Hope to see you into the new year!

                    1. peterstreep profile image81
                      peterstreepposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      The same Miebakagh57, the same, take care of yourself.

              2. abwilliams profile image67
                abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                If laying it all, calling a spade a spade and speaking truth are forms of aggression in the year 2020, then I plead guilty.

                1. abwilliams profile image67
                  abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I guess I had read one too many times, during the course of the day and into the evening, my fellow citizens on social media, actually wishing, hoping and praying {yes some are admitting to praying} that our President might die! Some of the things people are saying......as one attempts to outdo the next, in the how low can they go-all's fair in this game.
                  It has become a game, and nothing is off limits, when it comes to this man and his family.
                  So, yes, between that and not much better coming from some at HP, my "aggressive tone" came out.

                  1. Credence2 profile image81
                    Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    No, AB, I don't want Trump to die, it would be far better for him to be defeated this time around and denied a second term, humiliation is far more effective. Now, to have to carry that home with you, has got to stick in his craw. Even his nemesis, Barack Obama, got a second term.

                    I certainly do not want him to become a martyr of any sort. I certainly don't want to see his mug chiseled into Mt. Rushmore. I would be satisfied if he just took his medicine and got back on the campaign trail and let the electorate decide his fate.

                    1. abwilliams profile image67
                      abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      I am so glad that you are not one of those people, actually praying for his death. Giddy with the prospect that he fell victim to this virus, hoping it hurts him and effects his health long term, at the very least! :-(

                  2. crankalicious profile image93
                    crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    You mean like when they were off-limits during Obama's two terms?


                    https://hubstatic.com/15226212_f1024.jpg

                    1. abwilliams profile image67
                      abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      There are many hateful and ugly people with too much time on their hands, no doubt.

              3. GA Anderson profile image91
                GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                "oh no you dinnint. . ." A man telling a woman to just calm down . . .

                Damn Peterstreep, every man, (that hopes to survive the encounter),  in the world, knows you don't do that. ;-)

                GA

                1. abwilliams profile image67
                  abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  :-)

                2. peterstreep profile image81
                  peterstreepposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  ....
                  ups.. yes, I should have known better...

      2. GA Anderson profile image91
        GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Genna, I sense that you are not a Trump fan? ;-)

        Is your final thought any different from what any politician would do?

        GA

        1. Genna East profile image85
          Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I am a fan and supporter of humanity.  I am not a fan of those who are not.

      3. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
        Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I pray they get healed speedily, God will heal him.....https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

    8. abwilliams profile image67
      abwilliamsposted 9 months ago

      I agree with this as well.
      I am also hearing more often that everyone will get this virus at some point in time, if they haven’t already. 
      Many have had it and never knew!
      All the more reason to open up everywhere, too many businesses are closing permanently, too much depression, suicide over something we can’t control, we can’t let it control us.
      Obviously the elderly and those with health issues must remain diligently cautious -
      This move to the hospital is precautionary and will not slow President Trump down for long.

      1. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        This would be possible if people would just wear masks, but Trump opposes it and so do his followers, which endangers everyone. And I will say, it's not just Trump at this point. It's everyone. People just seem to be tired of wearing masks, so perhaps you're right. Just let the virus run its course and whoever dies, dies. I mean, it will probably end up with well over a million deaths, but I guess that's the way it goes.

        1. Genna East profile image85
          Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          We have lost our sense of community.  As Fauci stated, "We are all in this together."  But we need leaders who can lead by example.  Too many have chosen to ignore the dangers of this disease, or have adopted a cavalier attitude.  It's the age-old story of "me, myself, and I," and self-absorbed ignorance.  If everyone had only acted like part of a community, had listened to and followed the medical experts,etc., months ago, we would be in a much better place than we are today.  I sincerely hope that Trump recovers -- that all who contract this disease could have recovered.  Not just because he is a fellow human being, but that he may learn, first-hand, just how real this danger is and finally begin to lead by example.

          1. crankalicious profile image93
            crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            If he develops a sense that this disease is serious and should be taken seriously and that masks are vital to us moving forward, a mild case of it might be a benefit to us all. I just can't imagine he'll take anything away from it though.

          2. Miebakagh57 profile image53
            Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            That is why I said certain persons cannot understand unless their were seriously affected by the very challenge affecting the other(s).                                               Great Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson is an example. They said he was lacking in strenght to tackle covid-19 until the corona virus send him to his hospital sick bed. When he recovered, he know what to do.                                                                  I pray he and he and his wife, and his associates recover quicly. God save Trump. God save America.

            1. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
              Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              God will heal him speedily in Jesus name......https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

    9. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

      Kellyanne Conway

      Tonight I tested positive for COVID-19. My symptoms are mild (light cough) and I’m feeling fine. I have begun a quarantine process in consultation with physicians.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjXtfr5XsAE3hug?format=jpg&name=small

      Kellyann, Mike Lee, John Jenkins

      1. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
        Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I pray for your speedy recovery in Jesus name and I pray for Trump and wife in Jesus name....please comment on my article, thanks.....https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

    10. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 months ago

      The germ was released and will spread no matter what because that's what germs do. They are invisible and sneaky. Masks can help prevent them from spreading to some small extent, but they are not the only thing. Hands are probably the biggest carriers. Wear gloves? Slather on that hand sanitizer? Wash, wash and wash some more?


      Nevertheless, we are probably all gonna have to get it and develop antibodies. It will be very interesting to see how this germ affects the president, how he handles it and how we all respond to what he does. He is receiving antibody therapy. Hope it works.


      As any mother will tell you, the most important thing is to rest.
      He needs to rest.
      He needs to rest.
      He is taking melatonin to help him sleep, so that might help.
      He is going to be in serious trouble, if he doesn't rest and sleep more.

      He needs to let Pence take over.
      Maybe here, in motherly fashion, I'm overreacting,

      But, I wish he would rest.

      After all, If he did nothing until the election, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. We all know who we are going to vote for by now, anyway.

      1. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Perhaps you can take some solace from this Trump supporter:

        “You’ve never seen him sick. You’ve never seen him without energy,” Brenden Dilley, a self-described “MAGA life coach,” told his viewers on his radio show Friday. “[He’s] not walking around with weak-ass, p---- f------ genetics. He ain’t got those liberal genes. These are, like, god-tier genetics; top 1-percentile genetics.”

        1. profile image0
          PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          oh my gosh. roll

      2. Kuyeabraham-world profile image72
        Kuyeabraham-worldposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Am voting for Trump no matter what, God will heal him and wife speedily, please comment on my article, thanks......https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Africans-Love-President-Donald-Trump

    11. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

      President Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, tested positive for the coronavirus Friday evening.

      1. Genna East profile image85
        Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        That was the Rose Garden event last Saturday at the White House where Trump introduced Amy Barrett as his nominee to replace Ruth Ginsberg.  Only a few were wearing masks.  As for social distancing?  Nonexistent.  Seven who attended, including the President, have already tested positive for Covid-19.  Such reckless and self-absorbed, ignorant behavior that endangers the lives of others is beyond sad, and defies all human understanding.

    12. profile image0
      PrettyPantherposted 9 months ago

      News is reporting eleven people in the president's orbit have tested positive for COVID-19, so far.

    13. abwilliams profile image67
      abwilliamsposted 9 months ago

      If that is a group giving marching orders, I take no marching orders. I am my own woman. Calling things as I see them. Not complicated.

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
        Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I do take marching orders but from my government as an administrative offcer. It is a service law, or you get punish.                                                                   That I had retired some years ago, I an not used to the law again.

        1. abwilliams profile image67
          abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Miebakagh, the left would love to see us taking our marching orders from an all powerful government. They think they are limited by limited government and feel entitled to cradle to grave care. They take the freedom we have here, that many living in other Countries crave and pray for, for granted.
          It must seem to other countries, that we try so hard to throw away what they seek for their own Country.
          But, their numbers are few, the majority of this Country, love this Country as founded and understand what we have here. A Republic is as close to Utopia as it gets, here on earth.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            +1

            1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
              Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              You both are very thoughtful.

          2. Credence2 profile image81
            Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            AB,

            What is limited government, one that bails out the banks and the fat cats like it did in 2008?

            Does limited government mean no more Social Security, Medicare, etc? Your Rightwinged buddies are out to "wean America" off from this "dependency".

            The Right complains about Socialism, well it is already here for the well heeled and well connected, but not for the rest of us.
            ----
            "A Republic is as close to Utopia as it gets, here on earth"
            -----
            Utopia? I would not be so sure as there is plenty of room for improvement.

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              "The Right complains about Socialism, well it is already here for the well heeled and well connected, but not for the rest of us."

              Explain that to the person living in section 8 housing, on medicaid, getting foodstamps and receiving $5000 in "earned" income credit.

              That then you can explain it to the person(s) paying for all that socialism; the great middle class.

              Tell them only the rich see socialism...as those paying for it struggle to survive under ever rising taxes.

              1. Credence2 profile image81
                Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Ok, then we should staunch the tendency at both ends of the economic divide?

                So, if you are going to go after the concept of Socialism, at least go for all of it.

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I fully agree.  Take the welfare payments from the rich - take away their section 8 housing, WIC, medicaid and any other payments.  Then remove those same things from the poor that don't actually need them, as in those that can work to support themselves or whose poor decisions make it difficult.

                  And when you're done with that, increase the help for those that truly cannot support themselves.

                  1. crankalicious profile image93
                    crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    With a social program such as welfare, how do you establish a structure to evaluate the decisions made by its participants? Wouldn't that necessitate a bureaucracy so large that doing the evaluation might be superfluous?

                    Also, would you agree that it should not be incumbent upon taxpayers to fund bankruptcies when the rich fail? In fact, wasn't it a major Republican talking point regarding the auto industry bail-out in 2008 that the taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for the failure of an industry that clearly didn't prepare? This example actually goes against my point, but I'll use it anyway.

                    1. wilderness profile image96
                      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      I don't know how to evaluate whether a person CAN earn a living, and prevent fraud in doing so.  But I DO know that we have far, far too many living off of welfare when it isn't necessary, and that many do so for a lifetime. 

                      Bankruptcies: when nearly half the country has taken out bankruptcy sometime in their life it's hard to limit it only to SOME of them.  I think it has become too easy, that there should be tougher penalties, but then that stifles risk and entrepreneurship.  Don't really have an answer there, but WILL say that it is very unusual for the taxpayer to "fund" a bankruptcy.  Unless, of course, it is a federally guaranteed mortgage - a mortgage that is far more common to the middle class than the rich.  I suppose SBA loans would fall under that, too, but am not very knowledgeable about them so can't say for sure.

                  2. Credence2 profile image81
                    Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    I can live with that assessment, Wilderness.

    14. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

      Chris Christie is positive too. Before he got his results he admitted that they were all together at the debate prep room and none had masks.

      1. GA Anderson profile image91
        GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I am reminded of Pres. Obama's preacher, 'The chickens are coming home to roost.'

        Mask wearing may not have avoided this situation, but I am convinced that it would have mitigated it. Someone was a super-spreader.

        GA

    15. Nathanville profile image94
      Nathanvilleposted 9 months ago

      Poetic Justice

    16. Credence2 profile image81
      Credence2posted 9 months ago

      So now, what gives?

      https://news.yahoo.com/top-trump-campai … 00974.html

      I suppose that in the Age of Trump,we all will have to learn to accommodate the absurd as the "New Normal".

      1. profile image0
        PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Speaking for myself, I'm never going to accept this president and his administration's behavior as normal. Never.

      2. GA Anderson profile image91
        GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        oh lordy, lordy, I'm going to catch hell for this one, (considering the current situation), but . . .

        "Too often he has used it as a prop," he said. "Mask is very important but even if — he could be 20, 30 feet away from the nearest person and he could still have the mask on. That's not gonna change anything that's out there."

        Considering that the mask-wearing recommendations have been aligned with the social-distancing recommendations, (6 - 12 feet), what do you find wrong with that statement?

        I would not attempt to defend the non-social-distancing and non-mask-wearing situations we have all seen, but, in the context of correctness, I don't see a problem with that person's quoted statement.

        GA

        1. Credence2 profile image81
          Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          GA,

          If Biden appears to be superfluous about things, it is  better to err on the side of safety than otherwise, I always say.

          It is easy to forget that you have a mask on even when outdoors away from threats. I would be more concerned if I forget to bring it in and wear it under the proper circumstances.

          The statement sort of implies that Biden is putting on a show with his ubiquitous mask wearing, but that is not necessarily the case. It was a completely valueless comment, in my opinion.

          Perhaps, if Trump took precautions more seriously, he would not be in this current predicament.

        2. crankalicious profile image93
          crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          You should ask this question in its own forum.

          1. GA Anderson profile image91
            GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I didn't ask a question. I responded to a comment in this forum which seemed to be topic-related.

            GA

        3. Miebakagh57 profile image53
          Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          They is no point not to wear face mask as the pandemic still rages. Two is a crowd social distancing apart. Every mature person takes responsibility.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Many people are still as cavalier as Trump has been. I'm one of them. Where I live here along the So Cal coast, no one is wearing masks: Bikers, joggers, surfers, picnickers and shore home-schooled children are not wearing masks since they're outside.
            I don't either.
            so ...

            PS I heard that Egypt has a low incidence of CV 19 cases. They say its because its an outside-living society.

            Can we just move outside to beat it?

            1. peterstreep profile image81
              peterstreepposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Well, I rather stay healthy then being cavalier and get COVID. Trump did not take the COVID seriously, and that's what you get.

              1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
                Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I agreed with you. To keep safe and stay healthy is best.

            2. Miebakagh57 profile image53
              Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Agreed that you're a cavaliar and I would not go against the grain! Absolutely not!!                                                       Okay, let's fly outside.  The outside air is very refreshing for the inside of a person. Let's fly out side where coro is not airborne. Good for all and Glad.                                                                 Nonetheless, I would still took precaution to prevent catching covid-19. For instance, where necessary to put on my face cloth covering and practicing social distancing when more than one person gather in my favor.                                       It's no small secret that a second wave of...

              1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
                Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Yes, a second wave is coming. How far are we prepare for that?                                     Seriously, we have lost our sense of well being. If there is anything we've be missing health-wise is how to develop our immune system against the panfmic. No vacine nor certify drugs. I'm okay. You're okay.

                1. abwilliams profile image67
                  abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Yes!! It is imperative that we build up our immune system, the only thing those freaking out and practically living in their masks are doing is weakening and in many cases, destroying their immune system.

                  1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
                    Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Years ago, we had the ebola virus. I realised it was much deadly, as it deliver a coup de grace. I was worried and much surprised that medical doctors could not help themselves.                                          Surprisedly, during the present corona virus  pandemic, doctors were likewise falling prey to the virus! Challenge? Undevelop immune system!                                   The face mask is only good in a crowd at most. 1+1= company, 2+1= crowd.                                        I live at the precinct of a water front, 45 km off the Atlantic coastline. The air or breeze coming from the shore is refreshing and invigorating. I only put on a mask as I enter a younder town market some km into the Port Harcourt township.

            3. crankalicious profile image93
              crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I heard there was a small group of indigenous people in southwest India who have avoided COVID altogether by wearing their shirts backward and using their pinky finger to pick their noses.

    17. Kathleen Cochran profile image79
      Kathleen Cochranposted 9 months ago

      Karma is a harsh dame.

    18. Shrikant6989 profile image85
      Shrikant6989posted 9 months ago

      Next 10 days will be important for the future of United States.. If something bad happens to him, the sympathy vote will go in the favour of Republicans.

    19. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

      White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tested positive for COVID-19, she said Monday, making her the latest person in President Trump's orbit to contract the virus.

      “After testing negative consistently, including every day since Thursday, I tested positive for COVID-19 on Monday morning while experiencing no symptoms.


      Btw, this is why you wear a mask, this is why you social distance and this is why you have to self quarantine when you were in contact with a person that has COVID.

      1. Genna East profile image85
        Genna Eastposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Island, and Panther...

        There are video interviews with people who didn't take Covid-19 seriously, and caught it, nonetheless.  For example, one couple in particular said they regretted not wearing masks, and are now suffering from the aftereffects of the disease.  The wife suffered more than the husband and had to be hospitalized where she remained on oxygen for some time.  The aftereffects include  damage to the lungs.  (Other long-term damage to survivors is still being researched, such as permanent scarring in the lungs, neurological problems and other damage to vital organs.)  The husband closed the interview by saying, "Wear the friggin' mask!"  I applaud their courage in being interviewed, and for sharing their experiences. 

        As for people who for some bewildering reason  equate this Pandemic with the flu?  We only have to remind them of the staggering death toll and hospitalization rates in New York before safety measures were undertaken and in place, such as the refrigerated trucks used as makeshift morgues trying to handle the overflow of bodies, and so on.  It can happen again, anywhere at any time, depending on the safety measures people follow.

        The measure of character in people who choose to ignore the safety protocols is really quite simple:  They are either caring, thoughtful human beings or they're not.  It's that simple.  One only hopes that they, and their family and friends don't have to learn this the hard way.

        1. IslandBites profile image89
          IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          ++++

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          PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, agree.

    20. abwilliams profile image67
      abwilliamsposted 9 months ago

      I am glad that you've brought up the seasonal flu, Mike. It is as if it no longer exists and it too wreaks havoc, especially in asthma sufferers and those with breathing issues/difficulties. I do not personally know of anyone that could be accused of having brought asthma on themselves.
      The flu worsens asthma symptoms, the flu often leads to pneumonia. It is not to be taken likely. I don't know if people realize that we do not yet have a flu vaccine. We have a flu shot (which may or may not prevent the flu) but not a vaccine. It has been amazing how quickly all the b.s. has been bypassed in order to treat this China virus. I've no doubt, there will be a vaccine before we know it. Maybe the President (in his spare time) can to see to it that we graduate from a flu "shot" to an actual flu vaccine.

      1. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        How many conservatives does it take to screw in a light bulb? Holy moly.

        There is a flu vaccine:

        https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/misconceptions.htm

        And you explicitly said you wouldn't take a COVID vaccine, so what good is a vaccine if people, like you, aren't going to take it?

        How much medical training have you had?

    21. abwilliams profile image67
      abwilliamsposted 9 months ago

      Not as much as you I'm sure. Let me ask you this, as a child, me and all of my schoolmates had measles and mumps, it was a given. Then a vaccine came out and my kids never had measles or mumps. My grandchildren will not have measles or mumps. IF there is a flu vaccine, why do people oftentimes have the flu more than once, even with the shot?

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        PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        As my doctor's nurse explains to me every time I get a flu shot, the vaccine for a given year is designed to counter the most prevalent strain of flu for that year, as determined by scientists (you know, the people who are highly educated and have specialized training and knowledge that we don't). It is not foolproof because, obviously, there is more than one strain floating around. That is why high-risk individuals get a flu shot but also take other precautions to avoid  getting sick.

      2. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Because the flu virus mutates very rapidly.  Because every human body is different - nothing in the medical field works for every person, often not even surgery.  Because the flu virus is actually many, many different viruses, whether we lump it together as one or not.

      3. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        AB, this explains a lot. Thanks. I guess I just don't understand how we, as a society, have come to the point where we're more likely to believe the misinformed than we are the scientists who've spent their entire lives studying this stuff.

        Instead of retweeting the information from our scientists, we'll see some tweet from some idiot and retweet it as fact. This happened recently with the origin of the fires in Oregon. No basis in fact, but retweeted 750,000 times.

        It explains why people are so misinformed about global warming. It's too difficult to understand, so instead we just retweet that it's a hoax.

        It's all just sad.

        1. profile image0
          PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          My observation is that the bulk of the mindless acceptance that Kevin or Karen on YouTube are more knowledgeable than scientists and other experts is found in the non college-educated members of the Boomer generation. Younger folks who have grown up with the internet are far more adept, generally speaking, at knowing a good source of information from bad. I believe there is hope for the future.

          1. GA Anderson profile image91
            GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Whoa Nellie . . . From what I have seen in social media reactions to various political topics, there is no way I can agree with your thought that younger folks that have grown up with the internet are more adept at discerning truthful sources of information.

            Contrarily, I would say they are much more susceptible to confirmation bias, (as in believing any source that agrees with their perspective), than us old fogie Baby Boomers.

            I can heartily agree that they are much more 'screen' adept than us old fogies, but I don't think that comfort level and ability have anything to do with discerning truth from stuff that just strokes their perception of life.

            GA

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              PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              We must run in vastly different social media circles. It's just an opinion, anyway. Maybe I'll see what the social scientists say. ;-)

              1. GA Anderson profile image91
                GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Beyond these forums, I don't have any social media circles. My thought was just based on what I see young folks saying in the media.

                GA

            2. IslandBites profile image89
              IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              As a non Boomer, I agree with PP. I may add it is not only about political topics.

              1. GA Anderson profile image91
                GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Of course, you agree with her, you ladies always stick together. :-o

                GA

                1. IslandBites profile image89
                  IslandBitesposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Nah. I just have a 90y/o grandma that has a tablet. LOL And a mom, aunts, uncle and many relatives, all boomers, active on social media.

            3. crankalicious profile image93
              crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I'm with GA on this one.

        2. abwilliams profile image67
          abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I've always made it practice to research things which do not make sense to me; such as, why do we call it a flu (influenza) shot and not a flu (influenza) vaccine? Why must we get the shot year after year and why do so many people, who get the shot, still get the flu more than once, sometimes more than once within a year? What does 'the shot' do to our immune system and our natural ability to fight off disease over time?

          I cannot answer "how many conservatives it takes to screw in a light bulb", I have had limited "medical training", maybe if I had had a flu shot I too might be as informed as others here, but, in the meantime, I will never fear questioning.

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            PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            You say you make it a point to do research, yet you do not know why the flu vaccine does not operate the same as a measles vaccination?

            Something doesn't compute.

            1. abwilliams profile image67
              abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Speaking of "computing"...what really sucks is that there are a lot of strains of COVID as well and whether they call it a shot or a vaccine, it will need to be administered every year (like the flu shot) and only offer partial protection from the virus, as the flu shot does, so, we can still get it, shot or no shot.
              For those waiting for a cure to open back up their cities, get back to living their lives, go back to school/work, etc....they may spend{waste} their entire life, waiting.

              Thanks all, this has been a most informative discussion!

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                PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Regardless of whether or not all of that is correct, do you agree that not wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, as the Trump administration does, has infected and endangered many people?

                1. abwilliams profile image67
                  abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I am wondering about the two White House journalists who tested positive long before the President or anyone else. Journalists have been religious about mask wearing and social distancing, as they've pointed fingers at this Administration, where are they, who are they, how are they doing? Do you know?

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                    PrettyPantherposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Remember, wearing a mask protects others from you more than you from others. I have heard that three WH correspondents tested positive AFTER  attending the Rose Garden event, but I haven't heard how they're doing. What is your point?

                    And, do you agree that not wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, as the Trump administration does, has infected and endangered many people?

                    1. crankalicious profile image93
                      crankaliciousposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      You really have to feel for the White House staff. The hundreds of people who work there are now being exposed to the virus and you can guarantee they won't get anywhere near the care that the President does. There's nothing they can do about it other than quit. You can be pretty sure we're going to hear about some of them getting sick.

                    2. abwilliams profile image67
                      abwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                      What is my point?Seriously?
                      No, I do not agree.

    22. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

      Two of McEnany's deputies, Chad Gilmartin and Karoline Leavitt, have also tested positive for coronavirus.

    23. IslandBites profile image89
      IslandBitesposted 9 months ago

      White House press aide Jalen Drummond tested positive for COVID-19 on Tuesday, according to a Bloomberg News reporter, adding to the growing list of people to contract the virus after attending a White House Rose Garden ceremony.

      Drummond is the third aide under White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany to test positive for COVID-19.

      ---

      White House senior adviser Stephen Miller has tested positive for COVID-19 and is currently self-quarantining, The Hill has confirmed.

      Miller said he began a period of self-isolation several days ago before receiving a positive test for the coronavirus on Tuesday.

    24. abwilliams profile image67
      abwilliamsposted 9 months ago

      I heard a News Anchor on t.v. this morning (in New York) say that he was biting into his biscuit and was reprimanded for not wearing his mask. :-O  People have gone nutso!!!

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image53
        Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Ah ah ah, he he he, ha ha ha! A drama is unfolding before my eyes. I saw Daniel Craig coming out and wearing a mask and enter an elevator.                                                 Sure, he looks like a masquarade from my neighboring Yoruba or Ibo land of Nigeria. DC is not even  smoking a cigar when he should!                                    In Africa, masquarades do bit green chillis and gingers. That tell us herbs are very beneficial in preventing illness.                                                   Americans, Democrate or Republic are very funny indeed. And at the same time trying to set the whole world on fire. But I'm afraid the Creator would not receive me home when I call visit before my time. Should I be waiting in limbo?

    25. abwilliams profile image67
      abwilliamsposted 9 months ago

      I see that you weren't addressing me...or maybe you were {indirectly}. Funny that you would mention New York and staggering death toll and makeshift morgues all in the same sentence.
      You do realize that Governor Cuomo (D) transferred over 6,000 COVID-19 patients into New York nursing homes, during the peak of the pandemic, resulting in over 6,500 deaths, right?

     
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