It's obvious gas prices are soaring, and we are about to see taxes go up, which has an excellent chance of increasing just about everything we purchase. And the border crisis is making history in regard to numbers. 20 thousand children thus far in US custody, children continue to pour in daily. Biden has been in office a little over two months, he clearly is using his world stage to lie to anyone that is in earshot. His foreign policy is laughable, Iran has entered into a wonderful profitable trade agreement with China - China, With a $400 Billion Iran Deal, Could Deepen Influence in Mideast. The countries signed a sweeping pact on Saturday that calls for heavy Chinese investments in Iran over 25 years in exchange for oil — a step that could ease Iran’s international isolation. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/27/worl … -deal.html
March 11, --- Biden signs $1.9 trillion Covid relief bill filled with frivolous pork spending
March 17 -- in an interview Biden agrees that Putin is a killer.
Biden refers that Putin is a killer... APRIL 2, 2021, Russia’s Buildup Near Ukraine Puts Team Biden on Edge... https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/02/ru … ary-biden/
North Korea is shooting off Missles and rattling chains once again...
April 1, in an interview Biden supports the MLB on possibly moving the All-star game out of Georgia. One day later the MLB announced the game will be held elsewhere.
April 2 -- Biden lies about Georgia's newly revised voting laws. -- https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/major-lea … oting-law/
And Biden is now pushing his Infrastructure bill that is filled with unnecessary pet social programs.
So, how's old Joe doing?
What do you think of Bidens first two months?
As a rule, I write a book when offering an opinion. In this case, I can sum up Biden's first two months in one word --- Disasters.
Biden's First Two Months -- Oh MY Joe it's one mistake after another.
President Joe Biden signed an executive order on Jan. 20 to stop all construction on the border wall to reevaluate the need. ( not rip it down, just stop all construction.) He stopped holding immigrants in Mexico, and he claimed he would be bringing the immigrants that were waiting in Mexico that he would be bringing into the US systematically.
Biden is now considering starting up construction on Trump's wall.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/06/mayorkas- … ll-report/
Biden clearly jumped the gun by doing away so quickly with Trump's immigration policies. We now have over 20,000 unaccompanied children that the US is now responsible for. It's been reported that centers that have pods that were built to house 33 children are housing 500 children.
The country is in complete turmoil, and we have an administration that can not provide good Governing.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/06/mayorkas- … ll-report/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/03/30/ … -facility/
It's only going to get WORSE, MUCH MUCH WORSE!
I agree, little is actually being done to stop the flow of migrants across the border. It would seem the Biden administration is clearly ignoring the situation. I guess this has worked for Biden thus far. Don't address it, and pretend it just did not or is not happening. This is a huge crisis and Biden is worried about gun control and states tweaking voting laws, not to mention his huge pork-filled infrastructure bill. -- Border crisis --- what border, what crisis?
He is too busy playing president. OMG, we are in such trouble.
I totally agree with your premise that we don't need a president with empathy. $%$# empathy, we need a president with business sense & logic who sees what the problem is & implements methodology to solve the problem at hand. Empathy doesn't cut it but business sense & logic DO. Biden isn't presidential material. He is in WAY OVER HIS HEAD.
Trump has many positive 'firsts' that majority of those that 'dislike' could not swallow. What's wrong with the boarder wall I ask myself? It primarily prevent the infiltration of illegal drugs from Mexico and other Latin American countries into the USA. The blame for the late construction and completion is Petosi and her boys in the Democratic Party. More over, it makes sense that the stop work is being translated to start work. It makes better sense also if the USA-Mexico walls were renamed Donald Trump Walls. This to give credit, glory, honor for Trump in puting America First! God save America!
Miebak, those who dislike Trump are doing it instinctively. There is no logic in their dislike of Trump. They are unable to furnish intelligent reasons as to why they dislike Trump other that he is a Republican &/or Conservative.
Is Trump the only Republican or Conservative? Hating Trump, who is made in the image and likeness of God is hating God Himself. They should all run to Trump, not to God or any priest asking for forgiveness. And I am sure Trump will forgive. That will boast is image thought he does not care. Trump will come again. God save America!
Biden is doing quite a great job. Gas prices have nothing to do with the President, so that's a dumb comment.
Biden went straight to work, mobilized our national health care care system, and got the vaccine to people in record time, solving the biggest challenge facing us immediately.
Judging him beyond that is ridiculous at this time, though the immigration issue at our borders is a fiasco that needs to be solved.
What's sad about this meme is that it's all lies and misinformation, which is exactly what you expect from a Trump supporter. What's also sad is that it establishes that the person promoting the meme has no basis to make any sort of informed opinion about anything.
First, the U.S. President has very little control over gas prices. However, let's just assume Biden does control the gas prices and he decided to push them upward. Please do tell us how much more you're spending on gas every month. $20? Certainly a reason to get him out of office. (and please look into the economic theory called supply and demand).
Second, please do tell us exactly how much your taxes have increased in the past two months. How much more are you paying in taxes? The answer? It's probably $0. And if you consider you got a check for $1400, you're ahead.
The situation at the border is a fiasco, but it was a fiasco under Trump as well. Now it's just a different fiasco. However, the borders are not open, so that's a lie. They're not remotely open and have never been open.
These are all just fear tactics that paranoid, gullible people believe.
The meme was just that a cute eye-catcher. Hopefully, you had the fortitude to read the rest. I don't expect you did I feel many that voted for Biden have little intelligence just my opinion.
I backed up my opinions with sources. Ya don't like them -- that's your problem.
Gas prices don't bother me as much as having a senile president.
Try answering the question. How much have your taxes gone up under Biden?
First, read the meme --- here's to everyone that voted for gas prices, higher taxes, and open borders... Context matters
I understand Leo to be offering a sarcastic insult to any fool that would vote for Biden.
Now I gave my view --- It's obvious gas prices are soaring, and we are about to see taxes go up, which has an excellent chance of increasing just about everything we purchase.
The gas here in Michigan went from $1.50 in Dec, by the end of Feb. it has gone up to $2.80. The fact I stated is that we are about to see taxes go up. READ Biden's tax plan.... These tax increases will affect many facets of my and my family's lives. Fact... And if you have checked lately our border is open, and this month we had 19,000 unaccompanied children pour in, and a 20 year high of adult immigrant walk-in...
My taxes are my business...
Oh, No Joe Just Another Lie...
June 1, 2020 --"Washington — Joe Biden pledged Monday that one of the first actions he would take as president, should he be elected in November, would be to establish a police oversight board.
Biden met with political and faith leaders for roughly 90 minutes at Bethel AME Church in Wilmington, Delaware, where he answered questions, delivered remarks, and heard concerns about the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and the nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis last week." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden- … ght-board/
April 11, 2021 "WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Joe Biden's administration is backing away from a campaign pledge to swiftly create a U.S. police oversight commission, a White House aide said, concluding that legislation would better address officers using excessive force.
Susan Rice, Biden's domestic policy adviser, said in a statement that the administration believed a commission would not be the "most effective way to deliver on our top priority in this area" right now. "
CNN " Biden sees police reform as a "priority," Psaki told reporters Monday. The President looks forward to "continuing to discuss" the George Floyd Act with members of Congress and "believes that there is a path forward," declining to provide information on specific engagement with lawmakers."
This promise meant something to many. Many people took you at your word, felt you would bring change in regards to law enforcement reform.
This was a true promise to all American's especially Black citizens that are striving to bring about law enforcement reform.
The decision to shelve the commission underscores the ways in which campaign promises can clash with the realities of governing and potentially trip up a president’s agenda.
Hey Joe We have A Big Problem!
China's People Liberation Army flew 25 warplanes into Taiwan's air defense identification zone (ADIZ) on Monday, its largest incursion yet as tension in the Taiwan Strait continues to escalate.
Taiwan has reported a "large incursion" by Chinese warplanes for the second day running, a show of force that coincides with the first days of US President Joe Biden's term of office.
Sunday's operation involved 15 aircraft and followed a similar drill that led to a warning from Washington.
China sees democratic Taiwan as a breakaway province, but Taiwan sees itself as a sovereign state.
Analysts say China is testing the level of support of Mr Biden for Taiwan.
In the US's first public remarks on Taiwan since Mr Biden came into power, the US State Department reaffirmed its "rock-solid commitment" to helping it defend itself.
China has carried out regular flights over the international waters between the southern part of Taiwan and the Taiwanese-controlled Pratas Islands in the South China Sea in recent months.
Are you home Joe? I wonder what our allies are thinking? We have become once again a Nation that ignores. Remember like the Obama era.
IMHO if the USA is a friend of Taiwan, and she ignored her when being threaten, what is Biden afraid of?
Recent confrontational action by China toward regional rivals Taiwan and India are examples of the Communist regime in Beijing challenging the new American president. It is very possible that China is trying to do is find out how tough Biden is with the 25 warplanes flying into Taiwan's air defense identification zone. Hoping to see what old Joe will say or do.
China has a history of testing new US presidents. -- China challenges new U.S. Presidents. They did that with George Bush and Barack Obama with military provocations that were dangerous. They didn’t do it with Donald Trump, because I think they were afraid of him. We know from comments from members of the Chinese elite that they’re not afraid of Joe Biden. This is a very dangerous time because you have leaders in China that are arrogant see they can push Joe around.
Just in a week, China has launched a new invasion of India-controlled territory; in Sikkim. It.'s clear China is pushing out all around its borders. This is really one of those points that could be consequential because Beijing is seeing who will push back.
In my opinion, Trump is a much better president. As for Obama, I gave him credit for sending intelligent marine commandos or Seals to chop off Osama bin Ladin and bury the mad man of Arabia in the sea. Much of the America people knew Trump is serious with all his policies. They would have had given him a second tenure like they did to Bill Clinton, though Trump made some mistakes. Instead throwing common sense to the wind choose Old Joe Biden through his many campaign lies! Shame! I do not know much about the American Constitution. But Pelosi and her Democratic Party will not point search light on Old Joe. He is her boy. Prove me wrong. China, symbolized by a dragon is an old defeated foe. She had no match for America. A Lioness with her cubs...suddenly a donkey appear and the lioness croach down. The cubs goes after the donkey. That is China. Biden should sent the biggest hawk up!
I agree with your sentiments. China is openly throwing sand in America's face. They are on the move, and will not be stopped. And we have a president and administration that are inept in every respect. The country is failing quickly.
Sharlee, I traveled by car quite a bit over the past couple of months. I watched as gas prices continually crept up, with each 500 mi. trek I took each way, by the end of March, my fuel costs had doubled. On top of everything else and for no good reason, it's so frustrating!
It is very frustrating watching the country in such a disaray. I predict it will only get worse with this administration. It's actually hard to keep up with all the BS. --- COVID, the border, and a very weak leader in respect to foreign policy, we are toast.
Please look up the law of supply and demand to explain your rising gas prices.
Oh I understand, there was sufficient supply, with a stockpiled surplus ripe for the taking, in the making, but we elected to go with the pair that aren’t supportive of U.S. oil production, quite the opposite and we are paying the price. It will only get worse.
Hey, I am solving the, you know the thing. Don't call them illegal aliens anymore!
Well, this morning Biden peaked his head out and orders Border officials not to use the term, illegal aliens. I guess this will work to keep thousands pouring across the southern border. Wow-what a guy. WEEEEEE---
Wonder if he saw his shadow or her shadow or is she his shadow? At any rate -- hope we get an early summer.
All those behind Biden's coming to power are idiots.
Oh, really? then according to you the majority of the American electorate are idiots. From where does the temerity of such an attitude derive?
Probably from a hard look at the agenda and programs of the party supporting him. Anyone swallowing that as good for the country does not have it together.
THATS, your Opinion and it is not shared, who has made the conservative attitude the predominant one? BTW, two bits will buy you a cup of coffee.
I like this agenda a lot better than the previous one, you folks are in the minority of voters and opinions as you deserve to be there.
*shrug* You asked " then according to you the majority of the American electorate are idiots. From where does the temerity of such an attitude derive?".
Certainly my opinion is more valuable and far more likely to match reality than the opinion of an idiot (literal, not just an insult). Especially one swallowing the liberal agenda. That there are a lot of people doing just that does not make them intelligent. I may simply make them gullible, it may indicate that they don't look past today, but it may also indicate they are not very intelligent.
I don"t understand what makes you the grand oracle of wisdom?
What makes you so much more intelligent and they not so, is it just because you say so?
when it comes to the electorate, everyone's opinion is of equal value. That concept of democracy goes over the head of conservative reasoning.
You are going to have to do better than this, Wilderness.
I think you misspoke there bub. Did you really mean everyone's opinion is of equal value? Or, were you trying to say everyone has an equal Right to have an opinion?
I sure hope it is the latter because I know you have lived long enough to know how wrong the former is.
Otherwise, carry on. It is always a chuckle to watch an "I'm smarter than you" discussion. :-o
No, i was speaking specifically about those that are legally eligible to vote. In that case, each to his own opinion with no one having the right to disqualify the electoral choice of another based upon he or she being a legend in his or her own mind. Perhaps, that is what Republicans really mean when they talk about the "quality" of the voter? How arrogant...
Even a toddler has a right to an opinion yet, relative to an adult, we could probably say that the toddler's opinion is not of equal value. Society recognizes this and say that toddlers cannot vote.
Conservatives are tied to hierarchies and caste systems where some are always more equal than others, that is not the progressive way.
Well, that was quite a trip—from here to there, curves and all. I didn't catch the track that your "opinion" was really meant to stand in for Right to vote.
psst. It is not just Conservatives that recognize and desire societal hierarchies, it is a fact of human nature. It is also a contributing factor to history's past successful societies. You Lefties also, as humans, prefer societal hierarchies. Google it. I think you will find that your "progressive way" also has a hierarchical structure.
That would translate to the fact that the 'majority' votes is not based on the voters formulate opinion. They were either misguide or, they're indecisive to form the right opinion. Persuade by influence peddling, and so...when America is in distress. Last week saturday seems to be the beginning or rather the foundation of voters unwilly to vote in a local government election in my Rivers State, in Nigeria. The electorate seem fed up with persuasion. Even the state governor desist casting his vote for his party and party man. As for other states of the country, tha. I don't have the information.
Or are opinions with little value at all? Without solid, definitive, irrefutable reasons that's mostly where I stand.
I would think Miebakagh57 has a good view ---outside looking in. Our Nation certainly looks very foolish to many American's. You must be able to realize what those from other nations think about the disarray our country is in due to our leadership. Biden is not doing his job in any respect on many fronts. It feels to me like we have no one in that White House.
I would say at this point it appears at least half of Americans feel the very same as Miebakagh57.
Is that so, Sharlee?
During "Trump regime", these forums were subject to comments from Brits specifically and other international folks generally, thinking that this country had gone mad by electing someone like Donald Trump. The "yellow baby" has been seen worldwide. But conservatives and rightwingers endlessly complained about foreign participants involving themselves in American affairs. So now, the shoe is on the other foot.
So your perspective is just partisan and is hardly any real indication of what this nation looks like to others in any objective sense.
" It would appear at least half of Americans feel the very same as Miebakagh57"
But, on the other hand, more than half of American as reflected in their ballot choices do not feel the same as Miebakagh57. What can we say about that and them? Do rightwingers really think that they are smarter and that their minority opinion should hold sway in our democracy of one man, one vote?
We have a new president, and I can completely agree with your analogy that much of the world found Trump a poor choice for the leader of the free world, to put it mildly. I am pointing out the here and now. Time moves on we have a new president.
I don't feel my comment is biased in any respect. I am looking at the situation from an outside-looking view. And you are correct over half the country look at it differently than Miebakagh57. The split is there no denying that. I can very much see what he is seeing, and realize what you are seeing. Does it not worry you that so many see it a bit differently than yourself? It makes me worry, what if they are wrong, what if I am wrong? In the end, Americans have less in common than ever before.
I don't know where you are coming from appointing intelligence to one political party or the other. I have always considered an individual before assigning intelligence. I would hate to become part of groupthink in any fashion. I guess in the end I don't know what Rightwingers feel like an entire group. Are they smarter? I think they certainly use more common sense than those on the left. I think common sense goes along with the conservative mindset. Just my view...
I do try to be non-bias calling any wrong, a wrong, and realizing when something is right, correct, factual. I bend, one tends to breaks less when they bend.
Alright, we always need to separate opinion from factual reality. Of course, your opinion regarding the common sense of the conservative mindset is not shared and those millions that do not share it are not mentally deficient.
You say that you are a "boomer", then you know that we have had far closer election contests in the past than the one last fall.
Of course in those circumstances, I would wonder if those supporting the winning candidate really gave any thought to those that voted for the one who lost. Could I have wondered what if those that selected Nixon over Humphrey were wrong? I would have to wonder how George W. Bush, who was awarded the Presidency on a Supreme Court decision, was really the best choice for America? We all ask those questions, but I approach from a different ideological and political bent.
Regardless, the people have spoken and we are obliged to work within the system developed so long ago.
I pointed out just one characteristic that can be historically closely accosted with conservatives. I certainly did not say or I did not mean to imply that a liberal could not have an abundance of common sense. I am a baby boomer, in my younger years, I would have been considered a liberal of the time. Liberals are not recognizable to me today. If I were to share my truth, the Conservative of today mirrors the liberal of old. We were guided by common sense. I would suppose that is why today I consider myself a conservative for the lack of wanting to be associated with today's liberal. It's a bit of an epiphany.
And yes, a majority have spoken as they did in 2016. I will stand back and observe, as I did with Trump. I will give credit to a president and his administration as warranted. I will complain and become controversial if need be. I hope to be fair, but sometimes emotion overpowers fairness.
Yes, we need to work within the system, it has worked thus far well for America.
Initially, I was not willing to participate in the America and they America affairs. But I was prompt to do so. Incidentally, a thread on basic America civic lesson was post in the forum last year. I think it was Mike Russo(peoplepower) who post it. I'm the only one that got the answer right away. Seriously, What do the majority of the America make of their home work or classroom lessons on basic civics? If I got the answer to a constitutional question, tell me that I could not be good at the voting level? Take it or not, idiots abound everywhere.
I am impressed with your knowledge of American civics, I am sure that if I saw the question, I could as quickly answer. I am familiar with civics as it relates to this country.
As I said to the Europeans, you are always welcome to participate and share your opinions. I just can't guarantee that I am going to agree with all of them.
Credence2, sorry for the misunderstanding. Really' the majority of the American electorate will not like to support a puppet. That's where you go wrong.
I think you were a bit premature, but now, nearly four months in, we are beginning to see the real affects of the Biden Administration leadership.
Yes, it was brilliant of him on his first day to shut down pipelines and federal lands, killing not only tens of thousands of jobs on day 1... but putting an end to America's energy self-sufficiency.
Cheap energy goes a long way to helping an economy, and America's is in dire need of help, crippled in 2020 by over-reaching governors crushing their States' businesses and a federal government on a spending spree like there is no tomorrow.
Yes, between some great Governors:
Gretchen Whitmer orders Canadian company to shut down oil pipeline despite widespread fuel shortages
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … l-pipeline
And some brilliant leadership by Biden:
(CNN) The White House said Monday there are no issues with fuel supply...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/politics … index.html
America is prospering under great leadership... right into an energy crisis.
As I have often heard said, look to California to see America's future.
Up to $6 A Gallon: Why Gasoline in California is So Expensive
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca … e/2594122/
Rolling power outages hit the Golden State last summer when electricity supplies ran short of demand [-] Residents in recent years have also lost electric service, sometimes for days, when utilities cut power to prevent wildfires.
And how about those positive progressive California programs?
New Federal Report Shows Scope Of California's Homeless Crisis, Over 160K Homeless Prior To Pandemic.
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/03 … on-crisis/
Ever hear the saying "Back to the Future"
How about we create one for California:
"Back to 3rd World status?"
"Back to the Dark Age?"
I don't feel I was premature, Biden came into the White House and started his demolition project on day one. What is sad, he did much of it and the media has not covered his daily destruction. I am shocked at how spoon-fed our society has become. Many talk about the proposed legislation but never read a bill. They sink their teeth into a tasty bit of fat and just don't realize how much they might be giving up to gorge on fat. Our society is clearly dumbed down and could care less. So, it would be poor to request ideas when in my view the majority just are not aware of what is truly in the making. The wrecking ball has hit full-on and most likely done irreplaceable damage. I mean the majority of the country voted for a man that can state at a press conference --" I can't answer any more questions, I will get in trouble..." May 13, 2021, Biden. This is a man that did not even truly campaign for the job. That alone should speak loudly to our society.
Biden is racking up historic failure. This administration has problems mounting daily, and a president addresses each and ever-growing problem with the sentiment "there is no problem or my administration was t left the problem". It's clear his administration is spinning out of control from day one.
The list of problems grows almost daily. Our pandemic shaky economy is being ushered into a recession. We have Democrats in Washington proposing to spend money on fluffy giveaway Federal programs that would leave us printing money and devaluing our dollar. While adding an already historic deficit. It's clear Biden is not willing to realize the fact that foreign turmoil is boiling over, given the current Isreal/ Palestine conflict that is worsening daily. I would be remiss not to mention our open border with historical numbers pour in, and Biden's plan is playing the shell game, moving children from one building to another. The list of America's problems is growing daily due to the Biden administration. I have not in my life witnessed such a mess of an administration. America is in serious trouble, it's been coming for some time. At this point we need a strong common sense president, we can't afford a far-left president with his head in the clouds.
And we have a man sitting in the White House that is not suitable to be president in any respect.
And to address Whitmer, I live in Michigan. She is despicable and marches to whatever she is told to do. She is widely hated, and I realize this is a very poor word to use. However, none will surface. Just consider some plotted to kill her... She has single-handed ruined Michigan.
God save America! Biden being a Dem puppet has not every America at heart. His mindset is primarily to serve his misissi fully.
The Media's purpose today is MISINFORMATION and MISDIRECTION.
The "News" does not cover anything of real importance, in fact, they go out of their way to avoid it... and when they cannot... they create a false narrative whenever possible.
CNN, MSNBC, FOX it doesn't matter. Unless you are reading something like the WSJ or getting direct sources of information from a foreign (non MSM controlled) source, you should consider the information suspect until it can be proven factual.
What you would realize if you read statements and reports and interviews given from the IMF, the WB, and various World Leadership meetings like G20 and or the SDG Summit 2019 - Sustainable Development Goals where they created things like Agenda 2030.
You would realize that IS the plan, devalue the dollar, so that the world can move from the Dollar being the Reserve to a new currency controlled by a global/international entity/central bank.
Democrats are united in there support of these Global Agendas if nothing else.
So does Biden, that is why he is there. If he were in any way someone who would do otherwise or had any loyalty to the nation, he wouldn't be there.
I am shocked the most about RECKLESS spending. Someone is going to have to pay for everything.
Has old Joe Biden an answer for the source of the fund other than tax?
Yes or have a country that totally fails. It would seem this is the path we are currently on. Hey, we may be living in a historic time -- when the US goes under, implodes.
Exactly, Biden is the second Obama. In fact, he is much worse than Biden. Sharlee, let us say I TOLD YOU SO. Let's do THE I TOLD YOU SO DANCE. America is falling apart as we speak.
https://www.google.com/search?q=larken+ … NUrN4,st:0
This is an idea
Yes, America is crumbling into the sand as we watch. But some American's are very much accustomed to sand and enjoy nice deep sand to stick their heads in.
This is one of those threads that demands an attack since your meme starts out as an attack on the entire 81 million of us who thought a used tampon would be more useful than a guy unable to comprehend a deadly pandemic that caused the deaths of 550,000 Americans.
First off, let's start from the end. If you're going to claim any high ground on stupidity, start by spell checking the word disastrous. It's a pretty basic one in the English language, and the fact that you can't spell that or the word logic really makes one wonder about the validity of any point that follows.
As for actual policy, people are driving more since people are getting vaccinated at a faster pace than Biden actually set for goals, so demand in gas has also risen. As demand rises, so do prices. That's basic economics. So, if you want to blame Joe for basic economics, ok. I'd rather blame the corporations who make those choices.
As for foreign policy, North Korea took a pause on missile launches from March of 2020. Gee, I wonder what happened then....oh, yeah, a global pandemic. Pre-pandemic, they launched ten missiles in 2019. So, they have gone back to doing the same thing that they were doing under Trump.
Not sorry for calling Putin a killer, he is. Trump may have been willing to let him, or MBS, assassinate his enemies to remain in power, Biden is going to call out murder. Why on earth would you be accepting of a murderer?
As for Biden and Georgia law, I showed you where the law states 9 to 5pm. I walked you through the language that makes it clear you have to make assumptions to reach the conclusion you have formed. I did look at Chris Christie's quote you posted, even if it was pandering to Fox News viewership, as I feel him to be a pretty straight shooter, and by adding one extra Saturday to early voting, that is how he justifies that the bill expands voting. Not really worth it when the Republican-led state election board now has the power to overtake local election boards, as can now happen in Fulton County.
This thread points out an ongoing list of Biden's disasters, hence the word disasters. I provided this thread to list facts about Biden's first two months in office. And perhaps point out to anyone that voted for him, they may have made a big mistake. No more no less. I offered good sources to back up my views.
My meme IMO is appropriate, it bluntly gets the subject of the thread across. It's unfortunate you find it argumentive.
I consider Biden's first two months unfortunate and detrimental to the Nation. Have you checked the border numbers lately or his sagging foreign policies? The China/Iran deal, the refusal of Iran to consider new talks on a nuclear deal. He is a one-man wrecking crew.
All the rest of your comment just does not ring factual to me. His mouth got him in trouble with Putin. Putin is a man that does not offer lip service as Biden does --- He acts ---
March 17 -- in an interview Biden agrees that Putin is a killer.
Biden refers that Putin is a killer... APRIL 2, 2021, Russia’s Buildup Near Ukraine Puts Team Biden on Edge
In my view, Biden should keep a check on his mouth. I don't intend to defend the facts I posted in this thread any further than the good sources I offer.
We have different opinions in regards to Biden, so it's a draw. You don't respect my views, I certainly don't respect yours.
V, gross! I couldn't get past your first paragraph.
Yes. It's a disaster. I am not surprised. The American public is being manipulated. It's not over yet. Biden is a crook, liar, and has no self-respect. I am not into the game “I told you so.” Nobody wins in that game. I have noticed Biden/Harris supports are awful quiet. In a nutshell, it’s really sad.
I find those supporters noisy enough...but it's all in the form of "whatever it took to get rid of Trump, the devil himself". Nothing proclaiming any useful or great ideas/programs from Biden.
Trump will be re-installed as President on July 4, so don't worry.
It still pains me that Trump lost to old Joe Biden. Political manipulation to win votes does no one any good. It's now paying in a form described as disaster. My view? God save America!
Getting rid of Trump was a necessity for sure. But Biden had plenty of experience and empathy to warrant people to want to vote for him instead of against the opponent as both parties did in 2016.
And look, the government has now met and exceeded goals in getting people vaccinated. A major piece of legislation was passed in only a few months. A second major piece of legislation addressing issues that the right would rather just call 'pet social programs' despite the majority of the bill addressing things like roads, buildings, broadband, moving past a reliance on fossil fuels that are clearly evident to a majority of the country that just doesn't stop the government from trying to use its resources to address issues.
You thinking that the U.S. had any say in a China/Iran deal was the funniest part. Trump already got his butt kicked by China with his lost tariff war. That likely emboldened them to ignore the wishes of the U.S., since they already made Trump bow down and beg for their assistance in helping to get him elected in 2020.
Empathy? I don't consider this a major quality I look for when looking for someone to run the country. I look for qualities such as problem-solving, innate ability to make common-sense decisions that will benefit America in many aspects. Trump's administration had it all set up for Biden to step in, and actually do very little but stand in front of America in two masks with a simple speech about wearing a mask. I don't need empathy, I need a president I can trust to get things done, and have my back. Old Biden does not have enough sense to come in out of the rain. But he can stand up and dish out his brand of monotone read off a teleprompter empathy, he is a died in the wool politician. All talk no action.
His bill is full of pork, I hope it tanks and burns. I would like to see Trump's bill be considered, it cost less, and cover infrastructure, not social programs. A clean simple bill that offers infrastructure projects.
Trump had good footing with China on his Trade agreement, and I feel if he would have won, China and the US would have worked closely to complete the trade deal. A deal that would have been fair to both countries.
Actually, Trump never got him to butt kicked by any Nation. he kicked butt.
Not sure why you would feel China would have wanted Trump to win either election. That is so ridiculous it does not warrant a reply.
As part of the “phase one” trade deal, China agreed to buy at least $200 billion more in U.S. goods and services over two years — in 2020 and 2021 — on top of its purchases in 2017. The agreement, signed in January last year, paused a damaging tariff fight between the U.S. and China that started in 2018.
Phase two was held up by China, hoping Biden would win. I am very sure that China will not keep to the trade deal, and I am very sure that Biden will not care... LOL
Let's hope so, Miebak. Liberalism in America has devolved into leftism. Biden is turning America into a welfare state. There are ENTITLED people in America who expects to be supported on the taxpayer's dime. What happened to the concept of responsibility & self-reliance? Because of liberalism, there is GENERATIONAL welfare! There are people who have a comfortable life thanks to middle class taxpayers!
I would disagree on the empathy thing - I think the President, and politicians, need it. They must be able to understand, for instance, the man in the street and how they think and live.
But even more important is the ability to set that empathy aside, for it cannot be the priority. Running the country, and providing for what the country needs is far more important than what the man in the street, of a million of them, want. And that is where Democrats in general fail so miserably, for the wants of the common man usually trump the needs of the country in their minds (and so do the wants of foreign citizens). IMO, anyway.
Again, Wilderness, who decides what it is that we need verses what we want? Is it you?
Just another Rightwingers wish list?
This country is built for that "man in the street" for which you obviously have no respect. Who are theses precious national authorities that supersede the will of the masses that you would have us all bow down to?
What Wilderness is stating that Biden is turning this country into one welfare state. Wilderness is indicating that the U.S. government isn't here to support people & that people ought to have the adultism & responsibility to be SELF-SUFFICIENT. Credence2, the government isn't a parent. People should provide THEIR OWN means of support. America, thanks to leftism, has a LARGE population of parasitic, dependent ENTITLED people who proclaim that EVERYTHING IS OWED them. ENOUGH is ENOUGH is ENOUGH! By the way, Wilderness isn't a rightwinger but an INTELLIGENT, MATURE adult who believes that each tub ought to sit on its own bottom.
I would rather assign the blame to the corporate elitists who pocket profits instead of paying workers living wages or using the money to expand their businesses.
And if we could only get you as angry about the 8% of the federal budget that goes to pay for interest on the debt because we continue to elect people that cannot collect and spend money. That money helps no one.
At least the 8% of the federal budget in social programs helps keep 37 million people out of poverty each year. Yet, you're more angry at the humanity of helping fellow Americans than the hole that inept politicians dig for us each year.
I'd rather start with the debt, then start helping people get out of needing federal safety net programs. At least the poor will say God Bless You for the assistance.
"I would rather assign the blame to the corporate elitists who pocket profits instead of paying workers living wages or using the money to expand their businesses."
Hard balancing act --- Without those corporate elites or large money-making corporations there would be no jobs to complain about the wages. That is just a fact. No businesses no jobs.Expansion of business = more jobs... Not hard to decipher. In my view, I have great respect for those that strive to build large businesses and have the ingenuity to create, and make money. These are America's heroes in my book. They keep the country a place where jobs are available for those that want to work. I would hate to see what kind of country we would be without the Large corporations.
More jobs = less poverty for those that want to work anyway. Not sure why some hope to see America become a country where social programs are more attractive than working to support one's self.
Want to try again for that 8% spent on social programs? The 2021 budget was for 4.829T, of which 489B went to medicaid. That one social program constituted 9% of the budget - how you came up with 8% for ALL the social programs is unknown.
https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-federal- … 20billion.
We could start with this link, showing a budget of 4.8T. It has 3T in mandatory spending, which includes social security, medicare and the welfare programs (that you indicate are 8% of the total). Deducting the social security (1.1T) and medicare (.72T) from the mandatory spending of 3T leaves 1.2T in welfare, out of 4.8T total. That's 25%, not 8%.
In addition, it raises no one out of poverty, for as soon as it is given to the poor, the definition of "poverty" is changed so that the recipients are still poverty-stricken and more money can be given to them.
I see the 'welfare' programs as safety net programs as defined here:
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b … dollars-go
While I agree that social security, medicare, unemployment insurance, etc. are not "welfare programs". Rather they are all programs that are paid for by the individual or employer on the individual's behalf.
But free/subsidized health insurance is not (to include both the ACA and medicaid)? How? Why is that program somehow considered different than all the other freebies/subsidies to the poor? Just because it is so huge as to dwarf most of the other programs?
What Valeant fail to acknowledge that there is GENERATIONAL welfare. If welfare is supposed to be a safety net, the duration of welfare would be TEMPORARY. However, it ISN'T temporary but GENERATIONAL. There are families who have been on WELFARE for GENERATIONS. It seems that WELFARE has become a NORMATIVE LIFESTYLE.
You've a right to your opinion but it is obviously not shared because guess who is in the White House?
Yes. we know that GOOFY is in the White House.
It well appears Biden is no the way to turning the country into a welfare nation, so I agree with GM in that respect. I also must consider your statement and its truth.
It leaves me feeling that the Nation has a society that yes, has changed and is very expectant to becoming a country that does depend on social programs, instead of ingenuity and hard work. It makes me deeply ashamed. I realize this day is here, and It makes me glad I have a home in another country to always retreat to. America has become unattractive to me, I don't recognize it any longer.
Let me ask you as a black man --- Are you not concerned that the left describes your race as needy, not able, or responsible enough to get to a poll to vote. Not able to have the sense to obtain an ID to vote or that you might be insulted by a Tree or a child's book.
Do you feel this shadow that is being directed at your race, in the long run, will do more damage than good?
IMO it appears the Democrats are setting the Black race back 50 years.
They have, Sharlee. I am a Black woman. Of course, the Democratic Party has given underhanded praise to Black people. As a noted Black political pundit stated that the Democratic Party subconsciously view Blacks as children.
I don't like to think of race as some sort of different species or something, ethnic group is more appropriate. IMO.
It becoming more of a social construct than a physical one.
I guess that is what the retrograde Right said to FDR in 1933, imposing a welfare state? Well, the economic milieu of the 1920's was not sustainable. By expanding opportunities for all, we just make this system more sustainable over period of longer time.
The Right constantly babbles about a welfare state, but it seems like both parties are guilty of being profligate with our tax dollars, it just that the recipients differ.
Let's add equal opportunity to your idea of ingenuity and hard work.
Yes, we need equal opportunity and we did get to the polls in 2020 and that is why Georgia has two democrat senators and Trump lost. We are determined to continue in that trend as our adversaries will work to nullify our voices.
Our group tends to relatively poor and like much of the elderly may not have access to everything. However, we are getting the message and will obtain the needed documents at NO COST, as I don't like the idea of having to pay to vote.
We have our extreme lefties that promote nonsense just like your rightwing folks want a racially separate homeland, and will do anything to support white supremacy on steroids. I am going to make these exceptions to the rule in both cases.
I fear the Right and its designs of exclusion and intolerance and anti-democratic behavior far over any excesses from the left.
Credence2, not to digress. You mentioned that Blacks are poor. As a Black woman, yes Blacks are poor, not so much because of racism but mainly because of poor choices. Yes, poor choices. Many poor Blacks have a negative mindset. They act instinctively instead of responsibly. My extended maternal family in South Carolina is an example of acting irresponsibly yet expecting people to rescue them.
Many poor Blacks inculcate their children not to succeed educationally & socioeconomically. There are poor Blacks who vehemently contend that to better oneself is to lose one's so-called street credibility or in their terms, acting White. They disparage those of their peers who aspire to a more affluent lifestyle through legitimate means. They value thug & street culture, believing that culture is so-called more authentically Black.
Many poor Blacks would rather put the onus of blame upon racism than their own irresponsibility & lack of accountability. Yes, Blacks are one of the poorest groups in America but whose fault is that, hmmm? Remember the saying the fault lies not in the stars but in ourselves. Poor Blacks have to learn to stop playing the blame game, make the right choices, & pull oneself by his/her bootstraps. Need I say more as a Black woman.
I cannot really deny any of this except that racism cannot be dismissed as a component to the problem.
I am aware of what it is you speak of, but I have never really been poor and come from a generation where expectations were different.
I have been solidly middle class all of my life. Expectation for us middle class Blacks were higher than expectations for lower class Blacks. Middle class Black parents had HIGH expectations for their children while lower class Black parents implanted negative expectations. Lower class Black parents imbued the ghetto mentality in their children.
Racism isn't so much the problem as a total lack of responsibility & accountability in lower income Black environments. Lower income Blacks act instinctively-they don't believe in planning especially family planning. These are the people who have children when they can least afford it, expecting others to foot their bill. The use of birth control is an anomaly in the lower income Black community. Many pregnancies in the lower income Black community are.......unplanned which translates into children growing up impoverished with little, even no opportunities. Racism clearly isn't the issue here but parental indifference, selfishness(toxic) & not being accountable. It is the lower income Black community which is shedding a very negative light on Black people as a whole.
I'm just curious here...very curious. I reasoned the story should be a balance. So my question: Is there not any poor lower class parent in such a community or another? Or are all whites and (blues?) middle class, rich, super rich, and billionaires? More so, dose the poor middle class(if any) enthused they childrens and wards educationally? Some time ago, I read an article a super rich black man from a poor back ground leaving more than $600 million plus all his companies to his maid! Two days ago, I read about the youngest billionaire in the world. She is black?
But, racism still is a problem as America's problems with inequities and disparities regarding race that go beyond ones social-economic status.
It is just a slight of hand for the Right to continuously try to say that racism "no longer exists" within American culture, really?
That assupmtion is false. Race is still a problem in every country of the world.
Not nearly the slight of hand for the Left to continuously try to say that all the problems of blacks are due to whites because whites promote "systemic racism".
Of course racism exists with some aspects. To deny that racism exist is to deny reality. However, there are underlying negative behaviors in the Black community be it familial or peer environments which prevent the Black community as a whole from becoming a highly successful community. There is a high anti-intellectual mindset among many Blacks. There is also a slave mentality existing among some Blacks. There is also the crab in the barrel mentality. See where we are going here?
Let me add this-there are many Blacks who EXPECT the Democratic Party to rescue them. This is WHY they align themselves with the Democratic Party. They contend that the Democratic Party will SAVE them. They view the Democratic Party as their parents. The Democratic Party is great at creating useless, inane social programs which taxes the middle class. What happened to taking care & being responsible for oneself.
Instead of these inane social programs, why don't families learn to provide for themselves in terms of health care & other things. It can be done. Stop looking to the government to provide for you, START TAKING CARE of oneself.
I agree with your sentiment. The sad part is the tactic the Dems use has become much worse. It almost could be called demeaning. The latest tactic the Dems are pushing in regards to voter suppression takes the prize. They have attempted to paint the black people as people that can't come in out of the rain so to speak. Suggesting they don't have enough sense to obtain an ID or a legal absentee ballot. That it is a necessity to have water while in a line to vote. In all my many many years of voting, I never felt the need for water or food while in line to vote.
I really feel this kind of rhetoric is setting Black people back 50 years. I see them generally at this point being looked at by some as needy people that lack intelligence and need to be looked after. Yet it well appears many black citizens seem good being portrayed in this light.
Yes, racism exists, but the black race has come so far with the battle. They have fought every inch for every right they deserved all along. Doors were hard to open, but they strived to get pasted any half-opened doors. Why the hell lose ground with a party that is clearly making every attempt to keep them in one place --- dependent.
A resounding yes. There are many Black people sad to say who have this plantation mindset. They view the Democratic Party as their SAVIOR. They imbue their children in this philosophy. There are even middle, upper middle, & even upper class who have this mentality. So many Blacks are mired in the victim mentality- woe is me.....someone help me.... They believe that the Democratic Party will help them to have a more affluent socioeconomic life. Really? The only people who can do this -is THEM, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. To reiterate, people refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM HERE. There are Blacks who want to be RESCUED.....
Well, I don't agree with her sentiment, blacks of the middle class and the more affluent vote democrat consistently. Why do you think that is? Is that "plantation politics"?
As for food and water at the polls, it does depend on how long the lines and how long you are waiting, does it not? Republicans in their attempt to discourage their opponents, fail to make sure that there are enough polling places so people do not have to wait all day to cast a ballot. Their schemes are always quite transparent. I don't see this "looked after" thing at all.
The fight needs to continue until we are comfortable that we can lay down our grievance, maybe we are tired to striving to get through a half opened door that swings relatively easily both ways for you folks without effort.
I am going to stay away from a party that is opposed to moving the ball forward in the directions that you have noted is desired by most of us.
Your correct black citizens historically vote Demacratic, I can't dispute that fact. Although you are aware in the last presidential election One of the surprises in the election is that Trump actually improved his standing with Black voters over four years ago. According to AP VoteCast, Trump won 8 percent of the Black vote, about a 2 percentage-point gain on his 2016 numbers.
Times are changing... I will be honest, I have no clue why black citizens vote democratic. In my long life, it still baffles me. It is clear to me the party has in no way rewarded them for their faithfulness.
It disturbs me when I saw the media push the narrative in regard to Republicans not providing enough voting presents. It seemed odd that Blue states were not considered or I should say compared to red states. Actually, most states red and blue use the same rules or format to determine how many voting presents are needed, and areas that they should be available. As a rule schools and churches are used for citizen's conveniences. In all my research I could not find any true evidence that legislators made any attempt to make it hard for citizens to get to a voting place. Yes, I found many articles claiming voter suppression, but no real evidence to prove that claim.
I am not sure if your fight need be so hard at this point in history. I do agree it starts with you, not us... Many of us, have moved beyond racist attitudes. More than willing to live side by side as human beings.
I agree with GmWilliams --- The only people who can do this -is THEM, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. To reiterate, people refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.
This may seem harsh but when reading your last sentence I had an Ephiny. I don't think Republicans are opposed to moving the ball. I think many feel it's up to an individual to move the ball. To choose their own destiny, and work to achieve the life they hope to have.
It seems very odd to me that you feel in 2021 a black person can't achieve whatever they strive to achieve. Look around, you may see that times have changed in regard to all having the same opportunities. Yes, we have a ways to go, but so much progress has been made. And it's been made by blacks that kicked those doors open.
Always good to push harder, but do stop to look at what's been
It will be interesting to see what this new administration will offer minorities. Hopefully better opportunities for education, opportunities for better jobs that can lead more out of poverty.
Credence2, everything is a.....CHOICE. Many Blacks are poor because they ELECT/WANT to be poor through stupid, irresponsible life choices. They REFUSE to plan for their future & to act constructively. They would rather practice INSTANT gratification. Look at the Asians, they were oppressed but instead of whining, they decided to pursue excellence. They also pushed their children to achieve & succeed. They did for themselves instead of expecting the government to rescue them.
As did the jews after world war ll. Came with nothing, asked for nothing. Quickly became prosperous due to hard work and persrverence.
Sharlee, thank you. The Jewish displaced persons who came to America after World War II LOST everything. They endured the WORST prejudice possible. However, they DIDN'T whine. They worked & sacrified & became prosperous. Blacks have EVERY OPPORTUNITY in America yet they CONTINUOUSLY whine, expecting the government to lift them up. Let me correct this- American Blacks have the OWE ME mentality & mindset. Caribbean Blacks & African Blacks DON'T have the OWE ME mindset. They work hard & sacrifice for what they want. American Blacks, by far too many, don't have that get up & go.
I must agree with you... And it does not help to have a political party strive to keep Black citizens dependent on Government. This is perhaps why Caribbean Blacks & African Blacks have a different mindset.
American Blacks have been so inculcated into being victims that it has become a GENERATIONAL habit. There are even solidly middle, upper middle, & upper class Blacks who whine about being discriminated against. American Blacks stop looking to the government to do for you, DO FOR YOURSELF!
Jews have a tradition of being highly educated and the European terror lasted 12 years of the Reich rather than over centuries. Also, Jews are still, white people.
"Jews are still, white people."
This is not a really true statement.
"By the first part of the twentieth century, at least eight different African American run religious organizations self-identified as Jewish. Most traced connections either to the Caribbean or Ethiopia. Today African American Jews worship both in predominantly African-American synagogues and predominantly mixed congregations."
Perhaps, but in regards to Jews as a distinctive group in this country, most are white. Such as it is, they can amalgamate into the white population in a way that people of color cannot.
The discrimination is based on color, not because one is Jewish, on its face.
Well yes, Jews as a rule are white. And yes they are known for being highly educated and make sure their children are highly educated. They saw education as a way of being independent. Jews are known to be very family-oriented and most keep to their religion. And you are wrong in regards to the length of time Jews have been persecuted for centuries, looked down on shun.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files … tism-A.pdf
In my view, education their love of family, and their religion are what paved the way for the Jews to rise above anti-Semitism.
Did you know Biden promised to ban schools of choice and vouchers? He hopes to close private schools. Biden claims he will make our failing public schools better. This is a blanket approach to enable the Government to control our children's education.
I would truly dislike the Government controlling education, taking the choice from parents that hope to provide a superior education for their child. I was sad to hear Biden hopes to ban school of choice and vouchers, these opportunities helped children that did not have the funds or live in a given area a chance to be educated outside the public school programs. Democrats frowned on school of choice, and it would seem for no good or kind reason.
Sharlee, Jews & Asians are known for their exceptionalism. They want succedent generations to be much better than they are. Both groups value intellectualism & education. Both groups also practice involved parenting. American Blacks seem not to place a high value on education & success for the most part. They value immediate gratification, particularly the lower class.
Many American Blacks contend that it is the teacher who should be responsible for their children's education, not them. I have heard American Black parents state that it was the TEACHER'S fault that their children weren't learning or when they are behind in school. Many American Blacks aren't involved in their children's lives.
Jews & Asians, no matter how poor, had educational paraphernalia in their homes. So many American Blacks don't have such educational paraphernalia in their homes, they value more inane material things over books & other cultural stimulation. Jews & Asians place a very high premium on good grades whereas many American Blacks DON'T-their idea is that as long as their children pass, that's okay.
Many American Blacks value, even the middle classes, value socialization & street smarts over intellectualism. I hear many Black American parents(all middle class) state that their children are social & popular. I seldom hear Jewish & Asian parents brag about their children's popularity. In fact, the former deem popularity to be quite insignificant.
In Black culture, being smart is viewed as uncool. Many Black students who were A students were derided for being smart. I was one of those students- I was disliked because I was smart. The more average students were the ones who were popular. However, Black Caribbeans & Africans DO value educational & intellectual excellence. They believe that nothing should come before education. In schools, Black Caribbeans & Africans have superseded Black Americans in terms of test scores & grade averages. Even middle class Black Americans are falling behind in terms of test scores & grade averages. Black Caribbeans & Africans are involved in their children's education. They take education seriously whereas Black Americans don't. Also Latinos tie in w/Blacks in terms of educational attainment & success. Yes, Blacks & Latinos are AT THE BOTTOM of the educational attainment ladder whereas Caucasians & Asians are AT THE TOP.
If all these were true on the Black Americans, then it was a sorry development. IMHO the education of the blacks in America seems to be decreasing. Street smartness, parental neglect have been mention to be factoring. But I'm sure something more than these factor further. Look at the five fingers. Are these equal? Nope. It's the same with minds. Most inane minds are unbalance or sub. Such minds hard to grasp a basic and educated. Has any one heard that in India that BA Failure has value?
Yes, but Jews were not slaves, (noted exception of Biblical times) not having to have endured the intensity of discrimination Blacks have had to contend with for a century after emancipation.
Discrimination against Jews have modified in the last 75 years, unless they were explicit in promoting their faith and beliefs they have been accepted as white. Even though our relationship with Jews were better than they were with AngloSaxons, perhaps because they understood what it meant to be persecuted.
More plutocracy, the fat cats want me to subsidize education for Richie Rich. Just more all white academies while the reality is that most people cannot afford private academies, tax subsidies or otherwise.
I want equal opportunity, and public schools is the basic commitment to that. We start with this idea of private schools as the beginning of separation of the haves and the have nots. While private academies are not illegal, I am not willing to pay for them. I support public schools and the continued drive to improve them.
Where is madness in thinking that the Government is controlling public schools? I attended public schools and saw no evidence of this great control. I don't want children proselytized in evangelical, right winged religious dogma disguised as education. You can pay for that in your own private school.
I can't agree with your concepts of private school. I would guess it would be hard because I was educated in private schools as well as my children and grandchildren. Their education just gave them a leg up to job opportunities, and better more secure lifestyles.
Being a capitalist I can't conceive the thought of having a Government that calls the shots. I think that is what divides the haves and have nots. The haves are not apt to choose to settle for the status quo. The have nots just don't seem to realize that all of society does not care to be taken care of and find it distasteful. America has offered freedoms that most appreciate, and would not be willing to give even an inch on in regards to all for one and one for all.
I don't think the US will ever become a country where all parents would settle for public schools for their children. Many just want more for their children and have moved away from failing public school systems.
I don't see Biden as the savor of public schools. None of our recent presidents have done anything r=to improve public schools. American children Check some stats on just how poorly Americans are being educated.
I also was educated in private schools. Public schools only give generic education. Public education has gotten progressively worse over the years. Private schools offer a FAR SUPERIOR education than any public school would. However, the first educators are PARENTS & MANY PARENTS are failing in their jobs as educators of their children. Again, the government shouldn't be responsible for the day-to-day activities-it is the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN- WHEN WILL LIBERALS GET THIS?!
I agree it all starts at home. So many just won't take their responsibilities seriously, and their children suffer and pass on the same lack of responsibilities to their children. The cycle never ends. It would seem many have become apathetic to this reality, and now just want the Government to create some sort of controlled structure that alleviates parents from decision-making and their responciblities.
Well, I was raised in the public school system and I did not recall parents abdicating their responsibility to contribute their children's education. I do and did not promote that idea. Having children attend private academies does not necessarily eliminate that possibility.
Did Richie Rich actually earned his status or is it just more privilege for the wealthy and well heeled at my expense? We just had a scandal regarding people buying their way into esteemed Ivy League colleges and universities, remember that? You can have your private academies but public schools will not be abandoned in recompense.
Being have or have not is not always a choice. I will not support a society built on the mere caprice of the wealthy without a challenge.
Reminds me of the Ole South, after being told to desegregate created all these private academies with the tax base for the public schools decimated. A repeat of that will not be tolerated by Progressives. So, I stand 4 square behind President Biden.
You appear to have an attitude that tells me you feel you can make a difference. Could you tell me what you can do to bring about change? It sounds like you have been a responsible parent. So, this in my book is you working for change. You chose a path supporting Biden hoping he will work to curb systemic racism. You claim the Democratic party is attractive due to their policies. At this point, I see a party that constantly reminds Black citizens of just how different they are, and how much they need the help of the haves. Take from the rich give to the poor. The keyword being give... IOM this is not a path to any form of equality, it's a dead-end, where one has one hand out. you do realize this once again has some depending on Richie Rich. Not earning it, just being provided for. Does this work to stop systemic racisum or does it keep it going strong? Something the Dems can and always have depended on.
And oh yes, many do not have the choice to be a have or a have not, they are well dependent on Government, and have lost the ability to see any other chioces. They are in a non-ending circle, with ideologies that make no sense, only keeps them in a state of poor me... It's become very clear over the years that little can be done to help stop this type of mindset. Never so clear as the present.
Presently, public school system and private school system which is better? I'm just being very curious here. Grant the fact that parents were the real educators. In today's world, parents rush with the traffics, and leave they wards in the hands of private or public school. In my country Nigeria, I pass through the British Missions primary school and secondary grammar school controlled by goveroent agents soon after the Nigeria-Biafra civil war. Public school system and private school system which is better? And why? Edit: Candidates from these school went through same external certificate examination, before they are given a place in colleges and universities, right?
Public schools are better in the better communities. The citizens pay higher taxes to live in communities that offer better services, such as good public schools and around services. The citizens choose to put more funds into the school system in neighborhoods where higher taxes are paid.
It is unfortunate that the communities that suffer are the poorer districts.
Exactly in better communities, citizens are more pro-active. They don't expect the government to provide for them the way people in poor communities do. People in poor communities want governmental handouts & support. They expect the government to foot housing, health, & education bills. Succinct as usual, Sharlee. It has been the practice of lower income people to expect OUTSIDE help/support. Poor people aren't pro-active but adopt a passive persona in life. THEY WANT OTHERS TO SUPPORT THEM & GIVE THEM THE GOOD LIFE!
Is the poorer district communities the same as the slums? Does not the people that lives in those cnmmunities pay taxes likewise? In Nigeria, the middle class and the rich tend to send their children and wards to a public school because of the taxes they paid. Later, some 22 years ago when private schools were the vague due to the onset of Democracy on the American system, both class began to send their wards to private schools regardless of the taxes they paid. Private universities were now graduating 60 plus first class graduates. Whereas, the oldest university in the whole of Nigeria, the University College Ibadan just graduate one first class this year! I doubt if the 60 plus were genius.
Yes poor communities are slums. However, governmental monies go into such communities. Poor people expect for the government to rescue them economically, health-wise, & in other ways. Poor people feel that society OWES them. Many poor people expect to be taken care of by others whether it is more affluent relatives, charities, or the government. THAT IS THE MINDSET of poor people in America.
Here in Michigan, we do have what one can call slums. However, Any working citizen that lives in these areas does pay taxes, actually very high taxes. The tax money just never seems to reach the public schools. The graduation percent is very small in our Detroit schools. Many have very poor educations and are virtually just passed through the system. This is a fact, a sad fact.
"The taxe money just never seems to reach the public school." That's awful. I bet the money is politically compromised? Again in Nigeria as an example, some governors and local government chairmens have hijack pensioners monies to other purposes eg education, when money accruing from taxes are there. So pensioners were not paid their arrears and gratuity after 35 years of public service. The money is divert to education is never account for. Let me cite an instance here. In May 2019, Nigeria Federal Government released N2 trillion Nigerian naira(about $200 billion) to all the 36 states governors. 'Pay salary, pension, and gratuity arrears. Then spread the balance to fund infrastructures." till date those pensioners that were affected in my Rivers State were yet to benefit!
57, I think that both private and public schools have their place.
Not everybody can afford private schooling. Yet private schools can give an option for those that parents and students that want a religious component as part of the educational process not acceptable in a public school.
Credence, that's a problem not peculiar to America. In Nigeria, public schools depending on how these are set up can be christian or koranic. Ya get me. So, chritianity or Islam is enforced in either schools. In private schools, it can depend m the intention of the owners to be secular or profit orient.
The principle of tax payers' funded pubic schools had been started in Colonial America as early as 1635. I see the importance of such schooling as one that levels the playing field and as a primary feature of a democratic society. Everybody is entitled to a "leg up".
Despite Grace's opinion, not all people that are poor are lazy and immoral. Public schools have been the standard for almost 400 years. As a progressive, I support free or low cost trade schools or community colleges, just so that people other than the wealthy have a fair chance to improve their circumstances. This, by breaking patterns of poverty and destitution for those actually seeking a foot hold with prospects for many, including the kids. Makes a lot more sense than paying people to just sit on the dole. Despite opportunities there are always some people that are incorrigibly lazy, but not all of them. I am a capitalist as well, but I oppose exploitation in the direction of feudalism as much as I recognize the danger associated with a truly "Socialist" society. Think of how advantages get passed along, would there have been the fame of a Natalie Cole without Nat King Cole or a Nancy Sinatra without a Frank?
Public schools are proven to be inadequate primarily in areas where poor people reside. I say raise the standards for teachers, and pay them appropriately. Grace is right about one thing, anyway. The problem rests for the most part with the parents of poor kids and the disdain they have for education and upward mobility associated with that. Their lives have been associated with poverty and failure, what message do you believe that they send to their kids?
I, ten years ago in an article, chided the Black Community with some constructive criticism along the lines of the things we are talking about.
https://hubpages.com/politics/One-Progr … ca-Part-II
There certainly is a need for public schools and always has been. I feel more money goes to teachers than the students. The students are crammed into large classes, and many public schools lack the needed technology equipment that is needed to educate our children of the 21 century. Many inner-city schools are literally falling into disrepair. The teacher's unions have hurt public school education over the past
30 years. All about them and the kids are secondary at best.
Education is the way to breaking the circle of poverty. It's a hard problem and has become worse and worse over the years.
I was so pleased to have more states using the School of choice and voucher programs. It may not have been a solution, but a start. It gave students that could not afford options such as private school or going to school in a different zip code the opportunity to venture out of a public school that was overcrowded or just a better curriculum.
So far it appears Biden has not been going after the school f choice system. However, when he campaigned he promised to do away with it and to put some form of regulations on private schools. It will be interesting to see what he does in regard to the school of choice programs. If he bans them, I can only see it hurting the underprivileged.
And your article --- OMG it is wonderful. It would appear in 2012 you had another more common sense insight on being black in America, a very sensitive insight. It's almost like that article was written by a different person. A person that had very different ideologies. Have the years changed your perceptions of problems that black people face today in America?
I noted this sentiment in the article --- "Why are black cultural norms so often associated with negative concepts? It is bad enough that the Anglos and the media play it up; do we have to be on the same stage?"
In my view, you are on to something very important. It was very true that the media does have a history of portraying blacks cultural norms as negative. The media is a very powerful tool, is it not? It has worked hard in the past to indoctrinate white people to look at blacks in a negative light. This has made it doubly hard for white people to move away from having racist attitudes. It's also hard for whites to recognize how far black shave comes from the '50s. Slowly, in many cases quietly live and work side by side with those they felt would never accept them as equal.
And now the media IMO is turning the tables, taking every opportunity to still promote --- Black people are different. Not in a negative connotation, but now depicting black as a race that is needy more or less due to their race. My opinion comes from a general conversation I have experienced with peers, black and white.
Could the media be dictating or promoting a mindset on one each other's race?
Again, I enjoyed your article... I will be reading it a second time. I know I can learn more the second time around.
Thanks about the article, but the issue of race has two sides. In the article you commented on, I expressed the issues from the position where our groups are at fault and needed to improve, but for every part 2, there is a part one. It is a two headed hydra. It is all real, but the problem has always had two components rather than just one.
https://hubpages.com/politics/One-Progr … ica-Part-I
My niece and nephew who are the son and daughter of the heir to the wealth of a former department store, my sister married into "old money". These kids play with the "thug life/rap stuff as more a cultural fashion/icon, I complain to their parents about its destructive implications regardless of their being more affluent than most.
So, I am a fossil, reminded by Little Miss Smarty Pants that during "my era", grown-ups complained about rock and roll, the British Invasions and Motown. So, I should see all of this as just a fad.
No Credence2, you AREN'T a fossil. This is what I am talking about- upper middle & upper class Black young people playing rap music & pretending to be thugs. This is beyond destructive. Why are some Blacks enamored of lower class, ghetto life? That thought repulses me. I have extended family members who are lower class & I have disassociated myself from them. I am middle class & WON'T associate with lower income people- they are too negative & don't have any goals.
Credence2, were you solidly middle class all your life? Did your parents come from middle class or lower class backgrounds? My parents came from impoverished backgrounds & made it to the solidly middle class. They also came from EXTREMELY LARGE(ugh) families; however, fortunately, I am an only child. I take it from your persona, that you came from an upper middle class background. I came from a solidly middle class background.
"I am middle class & WON'T associate with lower income people- they are too negative."
I know, but I won't give on them, hoping that this fad will pass as so many have in the past.
I hear a lot of this music coming from pickup trucks driven by young whites kids, so what is the lure? How can I get away?
We were lower middle class at the beginning, but my late Dad started a real estate business against great odds and we started to have meat more than twice a week. As you know, it was a different world, one income could reasonably support a large family during the 1960s. That is not possible today, and the need for both parents to work leave the kids too often without adequate supervision.
Without boasting, my income at retirement was more than qualfying as upper middle class. All of my siblings with the exception of the one white sheep in the family has attained to this status.
Credence, much sense in this post. I've visit the link and you're okay. More so, when the talk centered on Trump and Biden, you're for Old Joe! It seems you're a Democrate, and that's a contrast.
The Asian situation is different, but I will concede to your general point and you win, THIS TIME. All based upon this article.
https://www.courthousenews.com/african- … tes/?amp=1
It was made clear that economic outcomes are different between black natives and African immigrants, with race being a constant, other explanations are to be found. The attitude toward and possession of higher education seems the first and foremost difference. That is something that we need to and should correct, in house.
I wonder what percentage of African immigrants vote Republican? That is something for another thread.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-10-13/ … electorate
https://politics.stackexchange.com/ques … ine-with-a
It would seem they may like capitalism and conservative ideas.
I can hardly understand the the issue of persons depending on government entirely for their needs. Except for the case of severe disaster and catastrophe like accidents, a pandemic, volcanic eruptions, that cause displacement of persons, it is best that a mature and energetic persons provide for their needs and family. Disability cannot be an excemption either. But it all depends on the degree of physical handicapness. I think those shuning or even avoiding menial works are doing so for lack of courage or maniliness. Little drops of waters makes rivers and oceans, right? Seriously, it makes sense if the Democratic Party government provide jobs for the citizens.
The Masked Man expresses my sentiment regarding all of this quite well.
Racism exists to an extent, we all know this; however, many Blacks use racism as a subterfuge not to exercise their full potential & to be mired in negative behavior. Asians experienced racism also but they refuse to permit racism to preclude them from success. Asians used racism to become high achievers. They used racism to possess a high work ethic. Asians, for the most part, won't permit racism to prevent them from living fully. Asians refuse to adopt a woe is me mentality which is prevalent in Blacks, specifically American Blacks. Far TOO MANY Blacks use racism as an excuse not to succeed. See I have again defeated your premise, Credence2.
Greed does big things, doesn't it? Especially when the majority of urban dwellers exhibit it so freely.
Who are the "masses" that require a cell phone (or they will die, making it a need rather than a want)? Who are the masses that require a bedroom for each child or they will die? Who are the masses who require food, shelter and clothing while refusing to work, thus requiring it or they will die?
Food, shelter and clothing - those are the necessities of life. All the rest is window dressing, luxuries that are wanted but not needed.
For the country we need protection (police, military). We go further, providing roads, water, energy because it so much cheaper for the government to provide it than for every individual to have a water treatment plant and a windmill in their back yard, making those things a "need" as well. But the government doesn't "need" a billion dollars worth of cheap housing that goes to individual citizens. It doesn't "need" broadband in every home. It doesn't "need" a cell phone in every hand or even food on every table. Those are all luxuries for the government, although not all for the individual, and we have gone far over the line in providing them for the nation.
Wilderness, Within generations, America has devolved from ask not what your country can do for but what can you do for your country to ask not what you can do for your country but what your country can do for you! In centuries past, poor people worked hard, doing without & if they wanted better, they would WORK for it. They were TOO PROUD to expect the government to give them a MORE COMFORTABLE lifestyle. Now since the "Great Society", many poor people want a middle class lifestyle given that OTHER people provide THAT lifestyle.
Paying defense contractors 2 trillions in R & D for a flightless dodo bird is a welfare state for the well heeled.
What you think is "for the country" and what I think that is are two different things. Those "greedy" urban dwellers rule the day as the greed from Republicans and their cronies have been just as stark and troubling in my opinion.
I take your concerns and words seriously, but we are well on opposite poles and the progressive left will have the upper hand for a time., if the Right can tolerate democracy for just a little bit longer.
Obviously, there is bound to be a problem like this in a state. More over, getting to the root of the question is seriously hard for the powers that be. The challenge to solve the issue is either sacrifice in favour of the state or the political party. I think also the disadvantages out weighs the advantages.
WWII and FDR seem to argue against your thought. Would you have preferred that FDR stay away from involvement because that was the majority consensus of the "man in the street" at the time?
Once more you seem to prefer mob/majority rule over reasoned rule.
Ouchhh, preach Gus, PREACH! +1000000000000000.
FDR and the more evolved Democrats were leaders that persuaded the public toward a differing path. I think that only the isolationists were against Roosevelt's Lend Lease programs and such. I really don't believe that most Americans thought that we should not prepare....
What is reasoned rule? The so called reasoned rulers could be plutocrats and oligarchs, who is checking them and their power? That is where your anti-democratic danger lies.
I elected Joe Biden as president to make the decisions as he sees that they need making. I simply trust his inclinations in his decision making process over that of Trump or most any Republican.
I don't think you can credit "evolved Democrats," or FDR's Democrat party affiliation. I think the credit must be recognized as that of the reasoned rule of good leaders—from the president on down to the state legislatures.
I think much of the Democrat party was also against FDR's plans that would lead to involvement. Your response seems to validate my earlier point; mob/majority rule is dangerous. Had not FDR and your "evolved Democrats" not succeeded we would have quite a different history.
Reasoned rule could be illustrated by the Titanic lifeboat leader with 100 souls on a boat made for 36 and water up to the gunnels, and the knowledge that picking up one more survivor will swamp the boat and dump those 100 souls in the water to die. He sees a baby floating within arm's reach. My reasoned ruler would know he can't save the baby. Do you think an emotion-driver leader would decide the same?
The example is extreme but it makes the point. Good rule is from the head, (reason), not the heart, (emotion).
It appears your choice, as described by why you voted for Biden, was an emotional choice, (you trust his inclinations), rather than a reasoned one. *You could just as easily have said you trust him based on his long legislative experience—a reasoned choice. The reason you gave wasn't just a different choice of words to mean the same thing. Your choice was a context clue.
Well in 1941, the "reasoned rule" did not include Republicans which according to this example in the Politico article, voted against Lend Lease and were not supportive of FDR's preparing America for the the possibility of involvement in WWII. But, I am not suprised as the conservative is always arbitrary and "behind"
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ … 941-243990
So, you are wrong, for the most part the Dems supported Roosevelt's policies and the Republicans were against and history proves them once again as the eternal laggards to far sightedness and good judgement.
Good leadership comes from both the head and the heart, as you obviously acknowledge that empathy is one desirable trait in a leader amongst many others.
It is just annoying for the Right to make support of Joe Biden some sort emotional experience. I say Republicans and their policy, platform and ideology sucks, for the most part.
That is applied to anyone that wears that banner. The trust for Biden comes from a history of adhering to views and policies of the Party I support, that is all I need. That is not emotional.
You conservatives types like to refer to yourselves as this bastion of rationality, but when I look back at January 6th, I have to wonder?
But, again, GA, that is just my opinion.
You das old Joe Biden boy! You vote for Joseph Biden? Great for you. Being a puppet, what specific decision(s) if any, Biden can make for his masters? God save American. A puppet is held by the neck. He hardly thinks. So how come he decides for his masters? His movements are generated via apron strings! Likewise his gestures. Once again, God save Ameerica!
Miebak, you are on point with your analysis. Biden will lead this country to HELL. I will do my I TOLD YOU SO dance for those who voted for the incompetent.
I, unlike so many conservatives, welcome imput on the international front.
But, there is a certain truth to actually living here as a way of having more clear perspective on what is going on here.
Agreed. But those living in the USA, who cannot see to your views, were they dead wrong?
I guess they are as wrong as they say that I am....
I think empathy is crucial to good leadership. Without it, a leader is isolated in their own world.
But a good leader should go beyound empathy, as is being stated by the others in the forum. The thing is that by attempting to creating a welfare state, Old Joe Biden is set to eroding hard work, which the America society founding fathers stands for. Who says Trump was wrong in initiating original 'first' projects?
"Empathy? I don't consider this a major quality I look for when looking for someone to run the country. I look for qualities such as problem-solving, innate ability to make common-sense decisions that will benefit America in many aspects"
I used the word major to indicate it's not at the top of my list. To be honest, I don't put empathy above qualities such as problem-solving, common-sense decisions, or being willing to make hard decisions when needed.
I guess we have a different view on how we would go about choosing a president. Empathy certainly is important in any human being, but on my list, it would be in the middle when choosing a president. I prefer to turn to family and friends for empathy if needed. I look for strength in a president and leadership that makes me feel secure. Pep talks don't impress me. Words are fleeting, deeds are not. Deeds clearly would indicate to me that the president considered the need, the feelings of his citizens and showed a form of empathy through his deeds.
Biden gushes empathy, most politicians have that quality under their belt.
But in my view, he may not be a sound problem solver. However, he has only been in office for two months. Time will tell.
So, you have learned a bit about what I look for in a president. What are your thoughts on the subject of the thread? Biden's first two months --- good, bad, ugly?
Your comment that you would turn to family or friend if you needed empathy looks like you might be confusing empathy with sympathy.
How can a leader make good decisions if he doesn't understand the people that will be affected by them?
Sticking with the FDR example I offered Cred, I don't think FDR's war programs would have gotten off the ground and just barged ahead, instead of realizing he had to convince the public, and Congress, that he was right. He had the empathy to understand people and their reactions to his actions.
But, there is no need to argue listing priorities, a good leader needs them all.
"Sticking with the FDR example I offered Cred, I don't think FDR's war programs would have gotten off the ground and just barged ahead, instead of realizing he had to convince the public, and Congress, that he was right. He had the empathy to understand people and their reactions to his actions."
Now, you're cooking with gas.
That is the stark difference between FDR and, say, a Donald Trump, who is not worthy to be included in the same sentence with FDR.
I guess empathy means something different to me as you pointed out. I feel there are components to empathy. When I think of empathy I feel it's an innate characteristic that provides one with the ability to know how another person feels, and what they may be thinking, and have the ability to feel the physical discomfort another is feeling. Empathy also emits compassion, giving one the ability to understand a person’s situation, and actually feel with them, and then move spontaneously to help them with their problem.
The final explanation is where the deeds come in. Helping solve a situation or lessen the burden that is disturbing to another is the final relief in the form of a deed.
In my view, all three aspects or components are an important part of showing empathy. However, in a leader dealing with a large country of diverse citizens, It would seem a leader certainly needs all three intricate parts of empathy. However, IMO a leader truly needs to frequently use spontaneous problem-solving when showing empathy.
I don't feel words from a president help much, solving problems shows me that a president respected the need of the people, and works to show caring through working to solve problems. Words can be comforting at the moment, but are very fleeting in reality.
One-on-one friendship is entirely different when assessing empathy in my opinion. In-person empathy from a family member or peer is a personal one-on-one kind of intervention.
So, yes a good leader needs empathy. I guess I feel a leader just needs to cut to the chase and problem solve. All the fluff is window dressing means little if a leader can't get to the final aspect --- solving the discomfort that caused the need for empathy. I mean we are discussing a president. This is a unique position, it's not that of a friend or family member. A president has a great responsibility, a very hard job. A job that must keep bandaids on many wounds, and glean the trust of millions. IMO words only can not accomplish trust. However, problem-solving can build trust and appreciation.
Whew! Your "empathy" is a lot more complicated than mine. Mine is simply the ability to perceive how someone is feeling. Whether in the context of an argument debate or the popular mood.
My empathy would be when a leader needs to convince a legislator, or a nation, to support an action. A leader with empathy will recognize when his arguments are having the opposite effect, (someone with strong empathy skills might even be able to tell which direction is wrong), and they will change their presentation. A leader lacking empathy will not recognize that and forge ahead with their planned arguments for his action.
Which leader do you think will be the most successful? That's the importance of a leader with empathy.
Here is another reason why I think it is important. I think it is an ability we all have. I think it is innately strong in some, but requires concerted efforts for the rest of us. And if we don't care about it we lose that ability. Having empathy is also a character statement. Lucky for some but a testament to effort in most.
I agree empathy is an innate charateristic, with some having more than others. It's obvious we have slightly different definitions of the word.
Let me offer an analogy, one that I learned quickly as a nurse. When a Patient received some bad news on a diagnosis or was failing and they clearly knew it. Will a few encouraging words or offers of prayers suffice or would pull up a chair, and hold a hand in mere silence be more comforting. Words or deed... I learned the true meaning of empathy through life experience. I guess this is why I always considered empathy to have three components, and have always felt dees to be the most important component.
We are at a draw here. Naturally, It would be more desirable, my hope that any given president would be empathetic. It's a wonderful innate characteristic. But, I would really be displeased with a president that let emotion guide his decision-making, in most cases... Please note most cases.
I wish Biden would show some empathy in regard to the 20,000 children being housed in centers meant for 500, that are packed to 5,000. This is where a bit of empathy would go a long way. Crickets from Biden on the welfare of these children.
I forgot your last question: Some not bad, some not good, with a chance for ugly on the horizon.
Biden is an establishment tool, a puppet, a front man, and nothing more.
Biden is a doddering old man incapable of leading this nation, his controllers are the ones doing that. The man can barely read off of a teleprompter without making serious gaffs.
Trump bowed down and asked for China's assistance?
Do you have some links to this, something I could read or watch that supports this position?
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent … reelected/
https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton- … ion-2020-6
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 71871.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewst … lton-book/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-put- … 1592423359
Seriously, the media bubble you people live in to not have heard of this is perplexing.
You are going to base this assumption on a book written by a disgruntled former employee? That is John Bolton. Just because he put it in a book doesn't make it true. Trust me, he has to do SOMETHING to sell his books. You really can't take his claims serious.
What the Left refuse to realize is that the influx of semi-literate, even illiterate illegals are further decimating the American infrastructure- SIMPLY SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. America doesn't need these illegals. Biden is focusing on these illegals to the DETRIMENT of Americans.
gmwilliams (and others),
I appreciate the fact that you are a conservative black woman. I too live in South Carolina in a majority-black neighborhood and wouldn't have it any other way. I find that, as with Latinos, Asians, and all the other ethnic groups, that my life is enhanced through contact with others of any race, gender, or religious preference.
I have been working with black people since the late 60's at the University of California, towering freedom fighters such as Huey Newton, Fred Campbell and Angela Davis just trying to make all people aware of the Declaration of Independence and that all (persons) are created equal.
I take affront to your statement that blacks don't work hard enough by "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps" when there is systemic generational disadvantages to being born outside of your so-called middle class. Pretty tough to lift yourself up by your bootstraps when you can't afford the boots. Also, you can't start 30 yards behind and hope to win a 100-yard race. It's also somewhat of an insult to some of my neighbors who work two and three jobs just to support their families. It's impossible to climb the ladder of success when the first three rungs have been removed.
Have you thought at all about how your lifetime of being firmly middle-class may have enabled you to be middle-class at all?
On an aside, can we please stop the border crisis hysterics? The previous idiot in office who bragged of the big beautiful wall serviced 482 miles of border wall of which 383 was repaired and only 80 miles of new wall was built that wouldn't stand up to a battery-operated reciprocal saw much less a stiff wind.
Finally, I consider it absolutely, terrifyingly hilarious that anyone on this board would have the audacity to discuss Biden's Lies. Are you pulling my lariat after 4 years of serial liar Trump? Please, find another argument. Preferable one that holds water.
Sincerely Fed Up,
The Masked Marauder
Long time no see... I was pleased to see your post. This forum has very few participating anymore.
In regard to posting a thread about old Biden Joe, I am guilty. I guess it's more to point out hypocrisy than the simple type of political lies Joe tells or lies that are born out of confusion.
Plus, WaPo did a lovely job keeping a lie list on Trump, I would assume we all know Trump stretched the truth like no other according to the media.
Now, Joe, he is a real piece of work. He seems to lie just to lie. You know like the guy we all knew growing up that we would label a BS artist. He seems to lie to hear himself lie. Odd fellow.
But that's just my opinion, we all have one.
Shar, also fed up, discussed, and scared.
Man, have you been around, with such a background, you continue to astound me.
"I take affront to your statement that blacks don't work hard enough by "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps" when there is systemic generational disadvantages to being born outside of your so-called middle class. Pretty tough to lift yourself up by your bootstraps when you can't afford the boots. Also, you can't start 30 yards behind and hope to win a 100-yard race. It's also somewhat of an insult to some of my neighbors who work two and three jobs just to support their families. It's impossible to climb the ladder of success when the first three rungs have been removed."
I have said this before, Masked Man, but this point has always fallen on deaf ears or upon those who choose to deliberately stop them up.
Imagine, getting to work with the very heroes of "the movement". There is a great deal of direct understanding that you gain. I had the privilege of meeting a few of the primary players in "the movement" while they were on lecture circuit during my University days during the mid 70s. Eldridge Cleaver was one, but many have passed away since.
Nice to see you again....
I appreciate what you are saying. My question is why does this "systemic generational disadvantages" not affect all black equally? I have a friend from my time in the military. He grew up in serious poverty. Today, I bet he makes more money than you and I combined.
It happens ALL the time. Here is a good article.
Top 12 African rags to riches stories
https://smartandrelentless.com/top-12-a … s-stories/
8 Famous Black People Who Were Once Homeless
https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/04/17 … -homeless/
The lists are long and extensive.
So, why does this situation not affect all black people?
The Masked Maruade, d'you know how they talked about Trump's many lies here and there? Madam Pelosi even triy hang him Trump, in the House! But the 'monster' as Pelosi dare called 'Real' Donald Trump escaped via, the Senate back door. For just a single or few liar(s) Joe Biden told, he's being regard as a saint or a god. I wouldn't argur against that. Biden will do worst than Trump.
Oh my, a dialogue! How refreshing. I hardly know how to react when I enter one with a person who has many opposites opinions. I admit sometimes I just stare at the screen slack-jawed.
Sorry, it suddenly came to me. It's because I can have a dialogue with my opposite that virtually overwhelms me. I am socialist in that I want everybody to have an equal opportunity to grasp the brass ring even if I have to give them the cost of a ticket on the not-so-merry go round.
I am willing to listen and even be moved by better ideas be they conservative, liberal or revolutionary in thought, context, and data. Your comment supported your opinion with nary a slight or hint of a high level of partisanship which, in my opinion, has placed this country on the verge of another civil war.
You are an example of what is needed in these troubling times for America. We've got to talk without animosity or foregone conclusions supported by labels.
Thank you for your welcome back. It was the only one I received from my archenemies. And if that doesn't drip with sarcasm, I'll pay for a new roof.
The Masked Marauder.
And a total gentlemen, to boot. Gosh, you are almost as good as me....
You had me at "how refreshing... And lost me at socialist. I too hope for all to enjoy equal opportunity. After all, this is the land of opportunity. However, a brass ring can be turn green quickly, and a merry-go-round ride can be short, can it not?
I do try to not show prejudice in favor of any of my particular causes. Although many would not agree with that confession. I am very wordy and like to delve deeper into any given subject than I should dare... As a rule, it gets me in trouble. But what fun is it if one does not end up knee-deep at one point or another?
“What do you think of Bidens first two months?”
I think Biden’s been behaving like an actual President capable of discussing issues and presenting facts ... instead of a narcissist intent on lying to fool the masses the way Trump did.
What a lovely change. A current President who actually seems presidential.
Lying to fool the masses?
https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/202 … ral-means/
https://fortune.com/2021/04/05/janet-ye … ton-woods/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles … n-reserves
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-crea … 1617634118
https://www.weforum.org/press/2020/12/w … ip-report/
The truth is, you have no idea just how much you are being lied to... or perhaps more importantly how in the dark you are.
Thank you for your input. Not sure I can agree, it would appear he pretty much stays close to the White House. he does address the people, but his words at this point ring hollow in my view. Lot's of pressing situations closing in on Biden. He seems ill-equipt to handle a crisis, only sweep them under a rug, and talk about his current tax, job, and spending bills he wants to push through hastily. He was hasty to do away with Trump's immigration policies which were working to some extent. Seem's he is ignoring record-breaking numbers of people crossing our borders and disappearing into the country while a pandemic is going on. Which he also has at this point swept under that big carpet. Not sure he is presenting facts. It would seem he miss quotes, and pretty much tells mistruths to suit his agenda.
Hard for me to see his first two months as anything but scary. I feel he is ill-equipt to lead the country or handle sudden problems. He seems to ignore them and stick to this plan. We all know plans can go sideways, and be held up by reality. Joe does not seem to switch gears so to say.
In regards to lovely change --- I preferred transparency even when it caused a stir or I was informed of something I did not want to hear.
Hey, we all have opinions mine is much stronger than others. But I can respect where you are coming from.
Which tool of the corporatocracy ( robber barons ) can you find as positive for the people ? Thieves and murderers do not comprise a source of social benefits.
On whose table the buck now falls? Trump? No, it's Old Joe Biden. Even if Trump become president on 1 July, and all things being equal, who cares the most for America?
Accusing people of using racist rhetoric while admitting you use racist rhetoric that has led to an increase in violence against Asian American citizens is an interesting statement.
China didn't fail in halting people from entering the US when the virus was raging, that would be Trump:
“We don’t have a travel ban,” Ron Klain said. “We have a travel Band-Aid right now. First, before it was imposed, 300,000 people came here from China in the previous month. So, the horse is out of the barn.”
“There’s no restriction on Americans going back and forth,” Klain said. “There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction.”
And it's also interesting to criticize China for not sharing the problem when Trump downplayed the seriousness of the problem to American citizens as well. He basically didn't share the truth about it to his people either.
Democrats have always used racists rhetoric to get votes. They will never change that ploy--- it works. LOL
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