Why Many Might Not Vote for Trump
JD is at it again. This man is just gross and mean spirited. I often wonder what his wife thinks of his misogyny.
https://x.com/JDVance/status/1829256147225977310
First, this woman is a Republican. So way to go JD on owning one of your own. Or was the point really just to make fun of women in general. This is so juvenile.
The old viral clip shows 18-year-old Caitlin Upton, who was Miss South Carolina Teen USA at the time, flubbing an answer after being asked about Americans’ knowledge of geography.
Upton, has said that she dealt with depression and suicidal thoughts over the fallout (online bullying) from the incident. In 2015, she told New York Magazine that she “went through a period where I was very, very depressed.”
Who does this? His response?
“Look, I’ve said a lot of things on camera; I’ve said a lot of stupid things on camera,” he said. “Sometimes when you’re in the public eye, you make mistakes. And again, I think the best way to deal with it is to laugh at ourselves, laugh at this stuff and try to have some fun in politics.”
Just having fun? For good measure he also refused to apologize because you know that's not really MAGA's style.
Reminds me of another gross incident when many MAGA folks, kicked off by Ann Coulter, made fun of Governor Walz son Gus after the convention.
MAGA seems to have a mean streak. Cruelty IS the point.Maga is tough. Not sissy weak.
We need more tough love, not less.
Stand up
Do not fold
Know your strength
Conquer stupidity and nonsense.
Be smart
Have common sense.
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
For a secure border.
Energy independence.
Peace and an end to wars.
Strength through law enforcement.
Protecting Girls from males invading their locker rooms and sports competitions.
The jurisdiction of parents over their children.
Protecting men and women in the military according to true gender identification.
Preventing babies from being murdered in the womb.
Preventing the using up of OUR Medicare and Social Security money for illegal immigrants.
Preventing us from becoming slaves through taxation and oppressive government policies.Too many contradictions.
"FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT"
vs.
"Peace and an end to wars."
vs.
"Strength through law enforcement."
I'm having a struggle reconciling those three especially with the emphasis on "FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT" in caps.
An interesting take on Vance from interweb:
Huge MAGA uproar over Harris saying one thing in 2019 then reversing herself in 2020 and being steadfast since. All while the Trump flips and flops depending on whatever small pond he is swimming in. And floundering Vance totally lost as to what the team position is on anything one day to the next.Just read an article this morning on Vance raising an eye brow.
‘Dangerous and un-American’: new recording of JD Vance’s dark vision of women and immigration the Guardian (Aug 31, 2024)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art … GTUS_email
"Trump’s running mate rants against feminism, immigrants and Ilhan Omar in a newly unearthed podcast from 2021"
Of course, it's the season now that both conventions are over, "How much dirt can I find on such and such." Makes for interesting reading at least for me.I agree with J.D. Vance. I have written about all of these subjects++ over the years.
Certain causes and certain people do great harm to this Country, they weaken us, they set us back, but nobody wants to talk about it. So afraid to speak up out of fear of offending, hurting feelings, being judged as racist, sexist, etc.
J.D. Vance isn't about to shy away from these subjects that we need to talk about!! He is harmless, his words are harmless! I like him. I trust him.
Ilhan Omar, on the other hand.....
that woman scares me, she should scare everyone! I don't know her true intentions, while she holds such power, but I know they aren't good.Both Vance and Waltz for me is ??????? In other words, up in the air and falling not because of gravity, but because of what is being unearthed on them both. At question is how much weight to cast upon the information not only by myself, but any voter.
Tim, I am going with my female intuition!
Sorry!
I agree... I find it harder and harder to decipher the truth from the media.
You can't Shar, it really does come down to common sense, intuition, gut, instinct.
Isn't that the case for all of them?
I admit Waltz' brother coming out against him is almost as big as the Kennedy clan ostracizing RFK Jr.
But as for dirt or misdeeds or downright disheartening acts... Is there a politician above these things that you know of?
Closest that I know of is Tulsi Gabbard... and you see how quickly the Democrats derailed her political career as soon as she opened her mouth and started telling everyone what she believed in... particularly that she was against our Nation Building/Democracy Defending wars overseas.
Pick an issue or two that matters to you... and choose who might make it better.
Is it Abortion?
Is it the Border?
Is it avoiding WWIII?
There are differences in what they will do.
As many in the Leftwing media seem to be saying lately (including one deranged rant by Tarantino on Bill Maher's show) it doesn't matter who the President is anymore you, are voting for the team.
Or in other words, vote for the policies you care about.
That is what they are suggesting you do, ignore Biden's incompetency, ignore Trump's shady business dealings and sexist remarks, ignore Harris' socialist leanings... vote for the team.
I don't think words are harmless. Apparently, not in the case of the Carolina beauty queen who was relentlessly bullied online to the point of depression and suicidal ideation. Why would Vance decide to re-victimize her with his post on X?
Really awful character.I don't condemn people for parts and pieces of stories, hearsay, when words are twisted and taken completely out of context.....
I don't go through life that way.
To this day Biden, Harris, DEMS, are still going with the story that Trump didn't condemn the violence in Charlottesville and that he called the KKK fine people. I don't need to share his statement and speech again do I? I am sure you know, but don't care --- because it hurts the right person!Hearsay? he made a conscious choice to post this video and a conscious choice afterward when he learned of the story to say he didn't need to apologize. This is so juvenile.
https://x.com/JDVance/status/1829256147225977310I agree with JD Vance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKjdYOncF2I
This happened a long time ago.
It's just an effort by the left to deflect from the democrats weak/unknown positions on policy. If they had a candidate running who was worth anything this wouldn't be an issue. Since harris is so bad, they are trying anything to avoid discussing important issues.
This is one of the many signs of desperation on the left.'Since harris is so bad, they are trying anything to avoid discussing important issues.. (to us on the right).'
There, fixed it to make it accurate. She's discussing plenty of important issues, but the ones she is discussing, like the economy, immigration, democracy and women's freedom of choice, just get ignored by the MAGA cult so they can stick with that fake narrative.
Their own candidate was found guilty of 34 felonies, found liable for sexual abuse, found liable for business fraud, and is under indictment in three other jurisdictions - so they need to sling the mud, even if it's not true.Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah...
Again, harris/walz are really bad at interviews and they probably will never give a press conference.
The CNN interview has caused a drop in the polls. the more harris/walz talk the more Americans get to know them and don't like what they're hearing. harris word salads, not explaining her position flip flops, avoiding making clear statements.
As a MAGA Republican, I'm glad these two are running. They're fun to watch as they try to mislead people about their policy positions and their past.
"She can go to Hell." Vance referring to Harris about a comment she didn't even make.
Keep doing the research. You have an open mind. You'll figure it out.Yes, that was my experience with my Mom, as well! Not that you nor I were EVER up to some shenanigans....lol
Lol hadn't seen this. Now that's just funny. Come on now!
I just shared it on X.Funny? this is disgusting and juvenile.
When this happened, this young lady was widely mocked and bullied.
She was 18 at the time she later described became completely overwhelmed.
She said in a 2015 New York Magazine piece about “life after internet fame” that she became “very, very depressed” amid the backlash and “thought about committing suicide.”
The response by vance? He refused to apologize, refused to admit he acted like a 6th grade bully. I mean what did he hope to gain by using one individual to mock another individual? He looks like a juvenile ass. It's not funny in any way. I bet that girl's mom doesn't think it's funny either. Sorry, I'm more than sick of seeing people treat other people like actual garbage. As a Christian, I don't do that.
Oh good grief. Give it a rest. She screwed up, that was a pathetic performance. I am from South Carolina, but that young lady was out of her league! Did she not know to be prepared for anything!? She has the beauty, but no substance. It should have been a learning experience, but if she has been contemplating suicide over this.... she needs to seek help!
She contemplated suicide when she was bullied and made fun of relentlessly when the incident happened. Vance was nice enough to bring it all back to life ...what a guy. I bet his wife is just beaming with pride. A role model for the ages . Hey, we all laugh a little harder when it's at someone else's expense right?
You are probably right. No more late night comedy, no stand up comedians, no tongue-in-cheek humor, no memes, no GIFs, no funny papers nor comic strips. No tweets...
Unless it is hating-on Trump-Vance, it is off limits!
AB out. This back and forth is getting ridiculous.Reason why families of fallen military personnel prefer President Donald Trump.
"Gold Star families slam Kamala Harris for 'playing politics' over Trump's visit to Arlington National Cemetery
Gold Star father said that Harris' statement was 'heinous, vile and disgusting'
Gold Star families who lost loved ones in the botched Afghanistan withdrawal blasted Vice President Kamala Harris over her attack on former President Trump for paying his respects at Arlington National Cemetery last week.
Harris accused Trump of playing politics with the visit, but in a series of short videos, eight families said they had invited Trump, and bitterly blasted the Biden-Harris administration over the disastrous pullout that left 13 U.S. service members dead three years ago.
The messages, each featuring different parents of service members killed by ISIS-K terrorists amid the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan on Aug. 26, 2021, were posted on former President Trump's Instagram account. .
The videos were released in the wake of a statement published by Harris on Saturday, where the vice president criticized Trump for taking photographs at a wreath-laying ceremony event on Monday. The Army said this week that an Arlington National Cemetery official was "abruptly pushed aside" while interacting with Trump's staff.
"As Vice President, I have had the privilege of visiting Arlington National Cemetery several times," Harris said. "It is not a place for politics. And yet, as was reported this week, Donald Trump’s team chose to film a video there, resulting in an altercation with cemetery staff."
"Let me be clear: the former president disrespected sacred ground, all for the sake of a political stunt," she claimed, before adding that she would "never politicize" such an event.
The Gold Star family members maintained that they had asked Trump for photographs, as opposed to Trump taking pictures to advance his campaign. In one video, the father of Marine Lance Cpl. Jared Schmitz called Harris' post "heinous, vile and disgusting."
"Why did we want Trump there? It wasn't to help his political campaign," Mark Schmitz said in the video. "We wanted a leader. That explains why you and Joe didn't get a call."
Darren Hoover, the father of Marine Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover, said that Harris lacks "empathy and basic understanding" about Monday's event, and stressed that Trump's appearance was respectful.
"In keeping with the reverence and respect that is given to all members of our military that are buried there, we invited President Trump," he said. "We are the ones that asked for the video and the pictures to be taken at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier."
Hoover also added that Trump has "been there for us from the very beginning," and criticized Harris for "playing politics" over the incident.
"You should be ashamed and embarrassed [about] your lack of empathy and decency as a human being," the father added. "You are only in this for the power and prestige. You don't care for our military or the citizens of this country.
"You should hang your head in shame at your actions or lack thereof."Let me get this straight. Trump broke the rules at ANC, a campaign aid shoved a worker and called her despicable & mentally ill and everyone is supposed to ignore that? Act like it didn't happen and the only criticism is for Harris "politicizing" it? Somehow she's in the wrong here. That's quite a stretch.
Maybe what you need to understand is that President Donald Trump was invited by the Gold Star families. Gold Star means they lost a loved one during armed conflict. They sought out President Donald Trump. They asked for the picture, not President Donald Trump, the Gold Star families wanted this.
To be honest, if a Gold Star family wanted a photo at Arlington and harris tried to stop it, I would push her aside.
If harris or biden were worth anything as leaders it is THEY who would've been there. When a soldier falls in battle it is the responsibility of the Commander and Chief or a member of his administration to to comfort and respect the families...NOT a person running for the office.
President Donald Trump acted more presidential in this situation than either biden or harris. He showed more caring and understanding than either of them combined.
"Hoover also added that Trump has "been there for us from the very beginning," and criticized Harris for "playing politics" over the incident"
President Donald Trump met with each of the families shortly after it happened. How many of the families of the 13 who died in the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal has biden or harries met with?
ZERO
They should be ashamed.'To be honest, if a Gold Star family wanted a photo at Arlington and harris tried to stop it, I would push her aside.'
This surprises no one. A male MAGA supporter would push a woman out of the way to break federal law. This pretty much epitomizes that political movement.Trying to deny a Gold Star family something they desire at a National Cemetery...seems about right for those on the left.
"President Donald Trump was invited by the Gold Star families. "
Can I be invited to break rules that I find are inconvenient? This really doesn't work in real life.
And we haven't even touched on the "suckers and losers" comment...
Not all veterans in their families were happy about what Trump did.
If my loved one were in the grave next to where Trump and crew trampled on to get a grinning thumbs up photo, I'd be extremely upset.
And by the way did Trump visit ANC last year or the year before?"suckers and losers" comment...
Never happened.
"Not all veterans in their families were happy about what Trump did."
Not all veterans and their families are Gold Star families.
You are deflecting from the main issue.
WHY wasn't biden/harris with the Gold Star families? Why have they NEVER reached out to them? This is part of their job. One of the many parts they are failing at in memorable fashion."You are Deflecting the MAIN issue" ????
The Main issue any rational American should have:
Who is REALLY running the country?
What is REALLY going on in our WAR with ____ (Insert Russia, Iran, China, North Korea, etc.)?
Where are those TRILLIONS our government is spending really going?
THIS matter, of going to a Cemetary as the Former President FOR the Families that asked him to be there is NOT a Main Issue.
The MEDIA may be deflecting America to look at it, to discuss it... but as is most things the MEDIA distracts you with, it is an irrelevant issue... while the real issues that are impacting our economy and our country are glossed over or ignored.Deflecting from the issue? That's rich.
The issue is that Trump broke the rules. And the idea that he was invited to break the rules somehow absolves him is illogical. Whatever the Biden administration did or did not do on that day does not change the fact that Trump chose to break cemetery rules.
As far as the suckers and losers comment, general Kelly confirmed it and I believe him over Trump who is a lying liar who lies continually and flagrantly. Time after time, Trump has shown a lack of character and morality.I think in this situation it is biden/harris who showed a total lack of character and morality when it comes to Gold Star families.
"Donald Trump's Military Attack Ad Against Joe Biden Fact Checked
Biden repeated "debunked" claim that Trump called service members "suckers"
The Atlantic article highlighted Trump's 2018 visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris, where the president reportedly told senior staff members: "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." The article went on to say he labeled veterans "suckers" for getting killed in battle.
Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung provided Newsweek comments from co-campaign manager Chris LaCivita who said that the "Biden campaign is peddling a fake and thoroughly debunked story"
Cheung added there were 19 officials "who went on the record disputing The Atlantic story."
Lt. General Keith Kellogg (Ret.), National Security Adviser for Vice President Pence: "The Atlantic story is completely false. Absolutely lacks merit. I've been by the President's side. He has always shown the highest respect to our active duty troops and veterans with utmost respect paid to those who have given the ultimate sacrifice and those wounded in battle."
There is no recorded footage of Trump making these comments and the accounts largely come from anonymous sources. On-the-record statements made by some of Trump's officials who were there on the day bear weight too.
John Bolton who said in his statement: "I didn't hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them"
John Bolton HATES President Donald Trump.
So, yeah, it's been completely debunked.Thank you for making your position perfectly clear that rules/ laws are optional for Trump.
I mean nothing says character and respect like trampling graves in order to take a thumbs up photo and make a political tik tok post.Confirmed, Bolton has said that more than once, and Bolton has reason to lie, he despises Trump and thinks he's the greatest threat to the goals of the NeoCons that exists today.
Credit to him for having some integrity.The logic on these forums can be pretty sus.
So just because Bolton didn't hear it makes Kelly a liar? Gosh, in my own personal relationships, I haven't directly heard a lot of other things people have stated either. Does that make those statements untrue also? Because I didn't hear them, they weren't said?Because you didn't hear them, there is no PROOF they were said.
Bolton and 18 others clearly state they didn't hear it.
There is no recorded evidence President Donald Trump said such a thing.
So, 19 people state it wasn't said. There is no video or audio recording of it being said.
It is easy to state there is no hard proof such a thing was said.
I'm going to say 19 people told the truth, no video or audio recording of the statement having been made.
With that evidence, I'm going to say Kelly is mistaken, confused or both.
Right? Just more examples of MAGA and their supporters thinking they don't need to follow the laws of this nation.
Yep, I guess they've given up on the whole "party law and order" thing. MAGA has gutted the Republican party. Their platform is now based upon Trump's daily whims.
8 of the Gold Star families put out a video to address Harris's comment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfgDCNjS48I
Today Trump relieved this campaign ad in which Gold Star families provide statements on behalf of Trump. This is a riveting ad, as was Hillary Clinton's campaign ad with Khizr Khan Gold Star father.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RIbkHeaK8
It would seem Harris should not have used this political ploy. These family members are mad, and getting more angry by the day. Very poor judgment on her part, and just before a debate. She has opened a can of worms. Anyone who follows Trump realizes he respects the military, and has had their backs. He is straight-up fighting fire with fire now. In this case, he has a blow torch.
Kathryn: Not in Section 60 where recent veterans are buried.
On another subject: Harder and harder to decipher the truth in the media or just frustrated they are not telling you what you want to hear?"Hear, hear" what? A big hip hip hooray for breaking the rules? Breaking the law? Like I've said before, Trump is a role model for the ages... Inconvenient rules and laws? N0 problem, just do what you want. Even if it includes trampling graves to make tik tok videos. And if you get caught? Blame the people who invited you.. I remember when my child used to give me that one too
.."but Johnny was doing it".I do understand your frustration:
https://www.facebook.com/share/Ke4PtyLf … tid=oFDknkThank you for clarifying your position that rules and laws are optional, at least for Trump
Anyone else on this site know someone buried in Section 60? I know two. One of them used to ride bikes with one of my sons.
And anyone who doesn't know in their bones that Trump did this only for publicity . . . I can't find the words.
Leave these grieving families alone.Perhaps you should consider what the families that invited him have to say:
“President Trump was invited by us, the Gold Star families, to attend the solemn ceremonies commemorating the three-year anniversary of our children’s death,” the statement continued. “He was there to honor their sacrifice, yet Vice President Harris has disgracefully twisted this sacred moment into a political ploy.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … criticism/
Is it that hard to recognize that Trump is as beloved by tens of millions of Americans as any politician you personally believe in?As hard as it is for some to recognize that federal law prohibited them from taking photos and video and the family did not have the right to permit that in Section 60. And they were all aware of that and CHOSE to ignore those regulations and break the law.
Is that as big of a crime as running a nation behind a guy with dementia that doesn't know what year it is half his waking hours?
Who exactly is running the Nation hasn't really been made clear, as it is no longer Biden that is making the decisions authorizing an escalation against Iran, or Russia, or reviewing who is attempting to assassinate the former President... nothing critical going on that we need a functional President for.All of a sudden the left is concerned about following the law?
Wow...that's different.
Ken, some from the families made a campaign ad for Trump, it's released this morning. It is riveting, and in my view, very damaging to the Biden/Harris administration. I posted the link to the ad in one of my other comments on this thread. You need to watch it. Not sure why Harris would have pushed this right before the debate. Trump will slam her with some of what these Gold Star families said. Unbelievable.
Because the eight families are not the only families with grave sites in that section. Federal law prohibits campaigns from taking video of them.
A Gold Star mother named Karen Meredith rebuked former President Donald Trump for posting a video of a wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery this week. Meredith, whose son First Lieutenant Kenneth Ballard was killed in Iraq in 2004 and was laid to rest in Section 60 of the cemetery, responded to Trump's video in an interview with Forbes published on Friday. She said the "most important thing" about ceremonies in Section 60, which is largely reserved for soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, is that there is "no politicization involved at all, ever." "You can go, you can take pictures. My family takes plenty of pictures when we go visit my son on the anniversary, but you cannot use it for political purposes," she said. The ceremony itself "was fine," she said, but she took issue with videos from the ceremony being used in the post to social media. "It makes me sick. I've been distraught all week," she said.And the rules and laws be damned?
"Participants in the August 26th ceremony and the subsequent Section 60 visit were made aware of federal laws, Army regulations and DoD policies, which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds."
The regulations were completely ignored.
Trump brought campaign staff, a photographer and a videographer to the cemetery. So who politicized the event? The campaign video that he made is proof of his violation of the rules.
Here is the video, made by Trump and his people, that is against the rules and even a violation of federal law. I mean why can't he just follow the rules? It's just that simple.
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/po … 998692007/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arlington- … my-report/"And the laws be dammed"
Hopefully, everyone participating in this thread will take a moment to watch this campaign ad and understand that it's not just about Trump breaking the law. It's also about something that some may avoid discussing here—the feelings of Gold Star families and their strong grievances against Biden and Harris. They have been given a voice, and clearly, no one twisted their arms to speak their truths. They use freedom of speech to do so on, yes, in a campaign flick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RIbkHeaK8
I want to share my honest feelings on this issue after reviewing several reports and hearing the statements from Gold Star Families. Here is how I see it: Trump was invited to the memorial, and after watching the testimonies from the families, it's clear they believe he has been supportive and caring from the start. I personally trust and respect their statements.
It's a fact that after Vice President Harris criticized Trump on X for making the wreath-laying political, the Gold Star Families released a video defending his visit. They expressed gratitude for his support and frustration over the lack of support they've received from the Biden administration.
It's also true that there are reports of Trump's campaign being warned not to film in Section 60 and an alleged altercation between cemetery staff and Trump's aides. However, I haven't found any names to confirm the staff's claims. On the other hand, Trump campaign aide Steven Cheung did offer his name, denying any altercation and stating that they had the approval to have an official photographer and videographer. Cheung also mentioned that they are prepared to release footage to refute any defamatory claims.
Yesterday, Trump's campaign released an ad featuring several Gold Star families and footage from Arlington. I have to say, the ad is powerful. In my view, it’s fair because the families involved wanted to express their feelings and frustrations about how they were treated. They’re Americans who lost loved ones, and they deserve to be heard. They've raised valid concerns about their treatment under the Biden/Harris administration, and while some may find these testimonies uncomfortable, shifting the focus to "he broke the law" feels like a deflection. Oh well...
Yes, Trump's campaign may have broken rules by filming there, and technically, those filmed alongside him could be seen as accomplices. Should they all be charged and admonished for the act of taking photos and videoing in a section where one is not allowed to do either? Maybe. But here's how I see it—if we're going to scrutinize this, let's not ignore the fact that the current administration has also bent the rules through various executive orders. Is there room in the paddy wagon for all?
Lastly, I can’t help but wonder what Harris would have said if Trump had declined the invite. The thought makes me chuckle.
Keep in mind, that this is my VIEW, I have no care to defend it in any respect.Thank you for clarifying your opinion. You certainly aren't alone in the feeling that Trump can exempt himself from rules and laws when he sees fit. Despite his intentions or his invitation, he broke the rules and laws at ANC.
Apparently he also currently feels that he has a right to interfere in elections.
Can't wait to see how this plays out in November.
[b[However, I haven't found any names to confirm the staff's claims.[/b]
The army put out an official statement. The individual who was shoved, called despicable and insinuated mentally ill, declined to press charges due to fear of retaliation from the maga faithful.. sadly, not a shock.
"It's a fact that after Vice President Harris criticized Trump on X for making the wreath-laying political..."
Actually she said this..
"And yet, as was reported this week, Donald Trump’s team chose to film a video there, resulting in an altercation with cemetery staff. Let me be clear: the former president disrespected sacred ground, all for the sake of a political stunt."
The wreath ceremony was never in question. It was sanctioned by the cemetery. The problem was the video and photography made in section 60. The man cheesed on top of graves with a thumbs and then made a campaign video of it for tik tok...
https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1829915590468731167"Thank you for clarifying your opinion. You certainly aren't alone in the feeling that Trump can exempt himself from rules and laws when he sees fit. Despite his intentions or his invitation, he broke the rules and laws at ANC."
I feel did not say or even hint that anyone is above the law. My context is clear. I did shed light on what both sides are claiming, regarding the issue --- "It's also true that there are reports of Trump's campaign being warned not to film in Section 60 and an alleged altercation between cemetery staff and Trump's aides. However, I haven't found any names to confirm the staff's claims. On the other hand, Trump campaign aide Steven Cheung did offer his name, denying any altercation and stating that they had the approval to have an official photographer and videographer. Cheung also mentioned that they are prepared to release footage to refute any defamatory claims."
I also stated --- Yes, Trump's campaign may have broken rules by filming there, and technically, those filmed alongside him could be seen as accomplices. So, I am not sure where you feel I in any respect stated or shared "Trump can exempt himself from rules and laws when he sees fit."
I have not as yet been able to confirm the Arlinton staff member who has filed a complaint. I am confident there is such a report. I don't think Arlington staff would let misinformation stand in the media.
I stand by my thoughts, the Gold Star families who invited him were fine with being filmed and making an ad. They all broke the law. I don't feel my context conveyed anything but that. I did not comment on what I felt about them all breaking the law. Did I?
The only personal stance I took was expressing my trust and respect for the statements made by the Gold Star families. I didn’t contest whether laws may have been violated; I merely presented various perspectives without taking sides.
My main focus was on the Gold Star families and their opportunity to share their views. From watching several videos where they spoke directly, it seemed to me that they were expressing both their gratitude for Trump’s support and their frustration with Biden and Harris, particularly following Harris's recent statement. Are you at all interested or care about what these Gold Star families are sharing regarding Biden and Harris? I feel their concerns are equally concerning.
You’re quickly shifting the topic to Trump’s involvement in elections, which is a completely separate issue.
You certainly know who I am supporting, I have no intention of reading or viewing anything from Harris. But, I appreciate your comment as always.I apologize for my misinterpretation of your stance.
The Army statement:
"An Army spokesperson defended the employee in a statement, saying the participants in the remembrance ceremony had been "made aware of federal laws, Army regulations and DoD policies, which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds."
The employee "who attempted to ensure adherence to these rules was abruptly pushed aside," the spokesperson said. "Consistent with the decorum expected at ANC, this employee acted with professionalism and avoided further disruption."
“This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked,” the spokesperson added. “ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation’s fallen deserve.”
"Although the incident was reported to the Joint Base-Myer-Henderson Hall police department, reporting indicates that the employee declined to press charges for fear that the Trump supporters would retaliate against her,”
From where I sit, I don't want This woman's name released. I don't want to see what happened to Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss happened to her. The Trump campaign has already called the woman despicable and insinuated that she was mentally ill. I'm so sick of him and his campaign trashing people who are just doing their job.
Again, yes they had permission for video and photography at The wreath ceremony. They broke the law by continuing to trample into section 60 and make campaign videos. The family was not allowed to do that, Trump was not allowed to do that. For me it's just that simple. They all broke the law, there is no question about that. They posted the video to prove it.
I am not at all upset with the Harris statement. She pointed out the illegality of what was done. She never criticized the wreath ceremony. She criticized the parade into section 60 to film tik tok videos.
There would have been none of this controversy if he would have stayed contained to the area he was permitted but then again we all know how he believes rules and laws don't apply to him .
It looks like Congress is asking for an incident report.Politically, this could truely blow up in Harris's face, and truely shine a huge light on the Afghanistan pullout right before the election. You know, between me and you --- If I was Harris, I would have let this one go... Trump will pound this every chance he gets. I imagine we will also see more of the Gold Star families in the media. Not a great political move in my view. The military most likely will not take anyone slamming Gold Star families. At any rate, the story is now out, and people are taking sides. It is now being reported Biden on two occasions shot footage at Arlington in section 60. Megyn Kelly reports https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-f6Ct5Hx1Ws
Shar,
I always find if the dems accuse the Republicans of doing something, it's because they, themselves have done it or are doing it.
Why does everyone forget the intentional campaign ad the biden campaign took at Arlington?
"FLASHBACK: 2020 Joe Biden campaign ad featured photo of him at Arlington gravestone
Biden posted a video on May 25, 2020 from his time as Vice president containing a photo of himself over a grave in the cemetery and the next photo that appears states, "Text JOE to 30330" and "paid for by Biden for President."
It has been revealed that Joe Biden used pictures from what appears to be Section 60 of Arlington National Cemetery in a campaign advertisement that he posted on X in May 2020 during the last presidential election. This comes as media reports have launched accusations at Donald Trump for his team taking photos and video at Section 60 of the cemetery where some of the Gold Star families of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal met on the Abbey Gate bombing's third anniversary to honor their children.
Biden posted a video on May 25, 2020, containing a photo of himself over a grave in the cemetery with the next slide stating, "Text JOE to 30330" and "paid for by Biden for President." The cemetery said in a statement following Trump's visit, "Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign."
https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback … from%20hisAnd was Joe Biden a candidate for public office in 2010 or did he have a more official role that would have made that photography permissible at the time? There is nothing illegal about photographing a current Vice President in the middle of a term honoring the fallen.
So, the Biden campaign used photographs from his time as VP that were taken by the White House photographer - who is clearly not part of any Biden Campaign. Trump's Campaign tried to take photos during an election year with people associated with his campaign.
Look at the federal law you just quoted:
"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign."
As usual, the right finds a false equivalency to try and defend Trump's lawlessness."Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign."
Joe Biden used pictures from what appears to be Section 60 of Arlington National Cemetery in a campaign advertisement.
Biden posted a video on May 25, 2020, containing a photo of himself over a grave in the cemetery with the next slide stating, "Text JOE to 30330" and "paid for by Biden for President."
Again, democrats want everyone to obey the laws, except them. democrats seem to believe laws don't apply to them.
Trump was asked by the families of fallen servicemen to be at the national cemetery. They were the ones who asked him to take a photo. The photograph was simply placed on his website. Unlike biden, it was not used for any type of solicitation.
Trump faulted the White House for making his visit and photo shoot a political issue, saying he received a call from someone in the administration, who he did not identify, who told him the photos taken were for public relations purposes.
“It’s just so disgusting, and I’ll tell you, I get a lot of publicity and I don’t need that publicity,” Trump said.'Again, democrats want everyone to obey the laws, except them. democrats seem to believe laws don't apply to them.'
And again, posting previously taken videos in his official capacity as VP to his campaign website is not in violation of any laws. However, candidate Trump bringing campaign photographers in during an election and then posting those photos to his website is. Ignoring the differences in the two cases is so on-brand for MAGA. It's the classified docs cases all over, where the violation of a subpoena made all the difference.
Trump:
“It’s just so disgusting, and I’ll tell you, I get a lot of publicity and I don’t need that publicity,”
Actually, he does as he now trails in the polls and Harris has the positive publicity and momentum. Trump's convention seemed lame, the publicity he's getting is from his court cases, and he's taking a beating on the abortion issue and needs to change the narrative to sling some mud about Afghanistan.
Thank you for your comment. I just today became aware that Biden took a photo in sec 60 in 2020, he also staged a video op there in 2021 when he announced the withdrawal from Afghanistan. source (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-f6Ct5Hx1Ws).
I completely agree with your point—Democrats often accuse Republicans of actions they themselves have taken. It really reflects on their skewed character or highlights the hypocrisy they are comfortable living with. Or perhaps it's just a matter of intelligence. Harris, for instance, has certainly stirred up controversy. In her case, I’d say it's more about a lack of smarts. Like Biden, she seems to need guidance. Does she not realize we have a handy tool called Google? Mike, it is baffling how no one here will touch on the statements that the Gold Star families shared.
Mike, you're absolutely right. Democrats often accuse Republicans of actions they themselves have been involved in. Take Bill Clinton, for example, with the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and accusations from Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and Gennifer Flowers.
Similarly, Tara Reade accused Joe Biden of sexually assaulting her in 1993, when she worked as a staff assistant in his office on Capitol Hill. Biden has also faced complaints from at least five other women, who said he made them feel uncomfortable.
By now, after all these years, we’ve certainly become familiar with the typical mindset of the Democrats, haven't we? I know I have.
Harris has started a snowball rolling down a hill, and it is growing by the hour. Yeah, this is the person I would want to see as president."the circumstances surrounding the two events are different. The photo of Biden at Section 60 was taken while he was performing his duties as vice president, not as part of a campaign.
The public can take photos at Arlington National Cemetery without a release from Arlington or the Army Department. But Arlington National Cemetery’s media policy prohibits filming or photographing "if it conveys the impression that cemetery officials or any visitor or family member is endorsing any product, service or organization."
The policy also said the cemetery will not authorize "filming for partisan, political or fundraising purposes," citing 32 Code of Federal Regulations 553 of the Hatch Act. That law says "memorial services and ceremonies at Army National Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political activities."
On May 31, 2010, the date of the photo featured in the ad, Biden was vice president. He participated in a wreath-laying ceremony and delivered a speech as part of his duties.
At the time, Biden was not running for office. He was sworn in as vice president Jan. 20, 2009.
Trump's visit included filming a tik tok montage uploaded on Trump’s official account. It showed clips of Trump visiting tombstones and meeting families while the ad’s narration and text criticized how Biden’s administration handled the U.S.’ exit from Afghanistan, when the suicide bombing happened.
The accusation that Biden "did a campaign ad at the graves in Arlington in 2020."...
Biden shared a 2020 campaign ad that included a photo taken at Arlington National Cemetery, but it was taken in 2010 as part of his vice presidential duties, not as part of a campaign activity.
"The statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate it Mostly False.".
Trump also claims in his campaign video shot at ANC his administration 'didn't lose one person in 18 months"...is that true?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … ton-natio/
https://www.tiktok.com/@realdonaldtrump … 2088430878Another interesting fact to this story is that both biden and harris were invited to be the with the Goldstar Families. Where were they? biden was on a beach and harris was 10 miles away at her mansion in DC. She was about a 5 minute drive away.
THEY ignored these grieving families, President Donald Trump embraced them and listened to their pain. biden/harris have shown nothing but disrespect for these families. Deaths that were caused by the incompetence of biden/harris."Another interesting fact to this story is that both biden and harris were invited to be the with the Goldstar Families. Where were they? "
The White House says there was not an invitation.
But did Trump speak the truth when he said his administration had not lost a person in 18 months?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house- … 22990.htmlThis gold star family member stated Biden and Harris were invited, and she claims to have the documentation to prove the invitation. Here is a clip of the interview where she made the claim. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=820076916937856
Again it would seem no one is listening to these Gold Star families or considering their feelings on this issue.Maybe they should clear up the invitation then?
Yeah, they invited both Trump and Biden/Harris? Who on earth believes that? They might as well have invited cats and dogs.
I would think that would only toss more eggs at the Democrats. This White House is well known for lying. I do not think this woman would lie about such an invite, I mean I would think she might realize she might be asked to produce the emails. I would like to see the emails go live online.
I see at this point this Gold Star family member is being smeared right here on HP. Walk away... I know the damage Dems can do with these openly nasty comments. I think you and I have shared our views, I always am open to other's views. But at this point I see our conversation has pulled in some that are willing to demean a stranger, just because they can.
McCain also filmed a campaign ad that included him walking among the graves in section 60 Nov 1999. Source
the ad on CSPAN. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5130588/ … ember-1999Which he got in trouble for as well and had to edit. Another omission of some key details.
A campaign ad that McCain had to revise after the Army said he had not asked permission to film at Arlington cemetery.
I see this situation very differently. Many Gold Star families personally invited Trump and even requested photos with him. In his ad, he didn’t use close-ups of graves but rather an overview, alongside several Gold Star families sharing their experiences. If anything in the ad violates any law, it may be taken off the air, especially given it's Trump. Personally, I’m willing to give this one a pass, considering the families’ explanations and how meaningful his presence was to them. If a crime was committed, it implicates everyone involved in that event and the ad.
On a more sarcastic note, I think the Democrats have overreached and look absurd to me. Clearly, we’re dealing with a very divided mindset. I’m standing with the Gold Star families on this. It's telling that the left-wing media hasn’t addressed their perspective, only the issue of Trump breaking the rules... which speaks volumes to me."
I am walking away from this one... Bigger fish to fry. I mean this entire media blitz was one to feed a certain mindset and have them looking here instead of there. This one bit them in the butt and will continue to be used as a huge club to beat the Giggles out of Harris."his ad, he didn’t use close-ups of graves but rather an overview, alongside several Gold Star families sharing their experiences.
The problem was, as you stated, it was an ad. I don't think pointing out that rules and laws were broken by Trump is an issue. I don't think I'd want anyone to ignore that fact, regardless of party.I understand that my perspective on the ad might not be well-received by some, but I believe the ad provides Gold Star families with a much-needed platform to share their frustration, which has been building for over three years and has finally found a voice through this ad and media campaign.
If the Army or Congress decides to challenge its legality, it might seem insignificant compared to the broader public reaction it could provoke.
I realize the Democrats hope to point out the rules that were broken. I think they protest too much --- The testimonies in the ad, and the media from the Gold Star families certainly slam Biden and Harris... They will have to face the music and leave it up to Americans to be the judges. In my view, the public must hear these examples of how Biden and Harris handled the grief of the soldier's loved ones that resulted due to decisions they made on the pull-out of Afghanistan. They need to be accountable and stand up to scrutiny for their decisions. As you clearly feel Trump should be held responsible for attending the Gold Star ceremony, taking photos, and putting out an ad. The public can make up their own minds about this issue.And Americans are judging the pattern for Trump of thinking he is above our laws. His supporters have already signaled their blind obedience on that issue and have shown the propensity to defend him on all of the following:
- a campaign that knowingly colluded with Russia
- blackmailing a foreign nation for a fake investigation into a political opponent
- inciting an insurrection
- trying to steal an American election
- business fraud
- violating the basic human rights of children
- sexual abuse of a woman
- breaking campaign finance laws
- adultery
- trying to willfully retain classified documentsYes, and see I have invited some I have nothing in common with. I am walking away from this issue unless something current pops up on the issue. I don't feel it is going away. All I can say is that I am so pleased to see these families have a very now loud voice. They were not canceled out, were they? Trump has given them a voice. I love this. Trump 2024
Speaking of The Twilight zone... A girl goes to school on Monday and returns home on Friday...as a boy ..
'The Twilight Zone' - also known as the place where those people who think Trump won in 2020 likely still live. How's the weather there?
Trump or anyone else for that matter could have honored the family's request with a wreath ceremony. He shouldn't have carried over into section 60. The fallen soldiers could have been honored within the guidelines of the cemetery.
If folks want the rules and laws to be changed to allow political content to be filmed and photographed in section 60, then they should seek the proper avenue for that. But in the meantime I think that visitors should adhere to the rules and laws.
I don't think that there is too much protest, either you believe in following the regulations or you don't.
I don't think the families needed to break laws in order to express frustration either. Trump has a megaphone and can use it at will...legally
It is quite evident that many Trump supporters are perfectly okay with him ignoring and bending rules.
You know, "when you're a star they let you do it..."Got it --- I have shared why I have no problem with Trump and the Gold Star families breaking the rule, and why I give them all a pass. I don't think I could have been more clear, over and over. Come on we have beat this one down into the ground. I am not up for a Trump-trashing diversion. It is very obvious our conversation has now initiated a Trump-bashing tournament. Heard it all, I have one vote, all here know I support Trump, and his agenda for America.
I think we have come full circle, I appreciate you clarifying your stance that some rules and laws are optional. You are absolutely welcome to that opinion and it is shared by many of his supporters.
I don't think the families needed to break laws in order to express frustration either. Trump has a megaphone and can use it at will...legally
And they did. Werent they at the GOP Convention?
I watched two interviews (at CNN I believe, for those who claim "left media" ignores them) and from what the lady said, she (possible they) are MAGA that happen to be Gold Star families.
President Donald Trump did what was asked of him by the Gold Star families. THEY invited him and THEY asked to take the picture.
Where were biden/harris? Why didn't they get invited by the Goldstar families?
Why didn't biden/harris reach out to these families after their decision for the botched Afghanistan withdrawal caused their deaths? THAT is the job of the Commander and Chief and vice president. A job they failed famously to perform.
I have more than one relative, including my father, who are buried at a national cemetery.
Perhaps you should consider that these families are still grieving.
I have watched the interviews by the families. They are grieving because of the loss of a loved one but also because their Commander and Chief has completely ignored the service of their loved one and their pain.
They are in good company... the Commander in Chief has ignored victims of natural disasters, ignored disasters he created (Afghanistan) with his own decisions, ignored victims of an unchecked unvetted immigration problem at the border... in short, he has been AWOL from dealing with those Americans that have suffered the most due to how his Administration has handled things.
Ignored? So, he didn't do a wreath ceremony on November 11, 2021? On May 30, 2022? On May 29, 2023? On November 11, 2023? Or on May 27, 2024?
I'll add 'ignored' to the list of words I highlight in those dictionaries I purchase for MAGA, because we seem to have different definitions.It's been three years since the withdrawal from Afghanistan and their loved ones died. biden has never once contacted them.
Yeah, that is called being ignored.
RMN: Their Commander in Chief is the grieving father of a veteran.
He is NOT a Gold Star father.
Having a son who was a soldier should have biden him EXTRA sensitive to the families of the 13 servicemen who died because of his incompetence.
biden chose to never contact these families. That is his JOB!
biden lied more than one time claiming his son died in Iraq. How can the left tolerate such blatant lies? Trying to get political points by lying about your son's death is beneath contempt.
Biden repeats dubious claim about son's death in call to fallen service member's family: 'The nerve'
'My son spent a year in Iraq; that’s how I lost him,' President Biden told the parents of 24-year-old Specialist Kennedy Ladon Sanders
President Biden repeated a dubious claim about the death of his son, Beau Biden, during a call with the parents of a U.S. service member who was recently killed in an attack on a base in Jordan near the border with Syria.
While speaking on Tuesday to the parents of 24-year-old Specialist Kennedy Ladon Sanders, who lost her life in an Iran-backed drone strike this month in northeast Jordan that killed three service members total and injured 25 others, Biden said he lost his son to the war in Iraq.
During the call, which was first shared by the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Biden told Shawn Sanders and Oneida Oliver-Sanders that their daughter was being posthumously promoted to sergeant.
There is audio recording of biden saying, "Oh, well, I tell you what, it means a lot to me," Biden responded. "My son spent a year in Iraq; that’s how I lost him.""Having a son who was a soldier should have biden him EXTRA sensitive to the families of the 13 servicemen who died because of his incompetence.
"biden chose to never contact these families. That is his JOB!"
"Biden flew to an Air Force base here to receive the fallen service members, whose remains were returned to the United States on Sunday morning. He first met privately with their family members, including some who have expressed anger at him, and then watched quietly as flag-draped cases transporting the bodies were carried off a plane "
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.htmlInteresting, the families remember things quite differently.
Biden, Harris 'have never once reached out' to Gold Star families of 13 fallen servicemembers, they say
"He has never once reached out to any of our families," Juels said, "Kamala Harris has never once reached out. Kamala Harris supported [Biden] this entire time."
Juels, the aunt of fallen Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole Ghee, told Fox News Digital that "the only person who has reached out to our family over and over again and to all 13 families is Trump."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-harris … 45943.htmlJuels, the aunt of fallen Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole Ghee, told Fox News Digital that "the only person who has reached out to our family over and over again and to all 13 families is Trump."
Not sure how she would be aware of that. Especially with Trump's checkered history of doing so:
The Associated Press reached out to the families of all 43 people who have died in military service since Trump became president and made contact with about half the families. Of those who would address the question, relatives of nine said they had heard from Trump by phone or mail. Relatives of nine others said they haven’t.
Several spoke of being comforted by Trump but at least one call went awry: Cowanda Jones-Johnson told the AP that Trump spoke disrespectfully of her fallen nephew, Sgt. La David Johnson, when he called family members Tuesday. Johnson was among four servicemen killed in Niger earlier this month.
“I think I’ve called every family of someone who’s died,” Trump said, then adding, “virtually everybody.”Good for Trump!
Shame on Biden-Harris, Harris-Biden, Harris-Walz.
This sums it up for me quite sufficiently:
https://www.facebook.com/share/Ke4PtyLf … tid=oFDknkAll this proves is President Donald Trump makes far more of an effort to provide comfort the families of fallen servicemen than biden or harris.
What is remarkable is he even does so when he's no longer president.Oh yes, comfort for families with campaign staff, a photographer and a videographer in tow...
He's a shameless opportunist who will do anything for a photo op. If he will break the rules by making a video and campaign material out of his so-called "comfort" to families, what laws will he deem optional if he won the election?
I appreciate that his supporters have clarified their view that the rules and laws at ANC can be ignored.If he actually cared, he would have been there in 2022, which was the first opportunity. Especially since he had a hand in destabilizing the country before we removed our people by releasing 5,000 Taliban prisoners. But he only shows up in an election year to use these people to further his campaign attacks on the current administration. That's what kind of scumbag he really is.
He does this, in my view, because he loves America, and he respects and cares about these families. His deeds always outweigh anything in all of this. His deeds spoke loudly when he was our strong president.
How can such a person be hated so much? He is a family man despite his huge business/job responsibilities. He is married to a beautiful and dedicated wife and still raising his wonderful son. He has hired millions of people of all walks of life, race and color. He just wants to see this country prosper. He cares deeply about people in general and always deals fairly with the worlds' leaders. He respects them and commands respect from them. He is really miraculous on so many levels. We need him desperately to fix what Biden/Harris did.
... and yet the hatred.
I just do not comprehend why so many focus on details that seem overwhelmingly negative when, at this point, they are not. He may have made many large mistakes in the past, as he is a large personality, but he also has corrected them in a large way and now he wants to save us all from the effects of liberal policies and missteps. He knows he can fix their mistakes as he has fixed his own. It would be to our advantage to just let him do it.
This is Why, as people see past his personality defects and focus on the good that he will do ...
Many May Vote for Trump.You're absolutely right in wondering how someone who has accomplished so much and demonstrated such strong leadership qualities could be so intensely hated. His dedication to his family, while managing immense business responsibilities, shows his ability to balance the personal with the professional in a way that many admire. His diverse hiring practices and commitment to seeing the country prosper reflect a deep care for people of all backgrounds. It's clear that his focus is on making positive changes for everyone, and his ability to interact with world leaders with both respect and command is a testament to his diplomatic skills.
His larger-than-life personality may have led to some mistakes in the past, but it’s evident he has the capacity to correct them and learn from those experiences. As someone with the ability to reverse the damaging effects of recent liberal policies, it’s entirely logical to give him the opportunity to lead again and bring about the necessary changes we need.
I believe we may share the view that certain segments of our society have been influenced by the media, which could explain the intense hatred this man receives from some people. I feel we need him back in the White House, we have so much that needs to be fixed. Between me and you --- You might find it amusing, but I see Trump as a blend of Reagan and Churchill... I appreciate him, and I can realize his sacrifice.Maybe he could just follow the rules and laws, you know like the rest of us have to?
He is a family man despite his huge business/job responsibilities. He is married to a beautiful and dedicated wife and still raising his wonderful son. (who cheated on that wife with multiple women, including in the months just after that wonderful son was born. Some 'family man' he is).
Cheated on Ivana with Marla and then cheated on Marla with Melania and then Melania with Stormy.... Family values written all over it.
He denied being with the porn actress. Why would he jeopardize his marriage. I believe him when he said he had nothing to do with her. She was after his $$$$$. She would not go away and he just paid her off to get her out of his life, which is common for politicians to do who need to address their reputations. Unfortunately, it backfired.
You're joking, right? The 'porn actress' testified under oath in so much detail about their one-night stand that it'd be a reach to deny. And that doesn't even include the 'playboy model' who confirmed that they had a ten-month affair behind Melania's back, including having sex in their marital bed.
Everyone lies except for Donald Trump, in the eyes of his cult of followers. It's so sad that the people that support him do not understand how brainwashed they are.
Does anyone get upset with biden calling members of the military stupid bastards?
THAT is on a recorded video tape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6cJO1ioopQNo, they just don't. They will divert shake it up and pour it out into what they want to be or mean.
Or listen to the whole speech and realize Biden was making a joke and most were laughing.
It is never appropriate for the vice president to refer to members of the military as "dumb bastards."
Whatever joke he was attempting to make, it wasn't funny.
He was clearly joking. It's quite a stretch to believe otherwise.
Well then, I am sorry, but those on the left must be stretched out from here to kingdom come!
I've been in the military.
This wouldn't be funny from me coming from the vice president of the United States.
I NEVER experienced such a thing.
'Yes, Trump's campaign likely broke rules by filming there...'
Trump's defenders can't even say that he likely broke the federal law. They weren't rules, they were laws.
Next, I see the part where Trump's campaign staff were specifically told of the regulations about filming and chose to ignore them was left out of the recap.
And the part where Cheung stating that the cemetery staffer "clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump's team" was also conveniently omitted. And it wasn't his name, it was hers. Another attempt to downplay that Trump's staff physically moved a woman out of the way to accomplish his lawlessness.An interesting stat that may determine who many vote for:
For women younger than 45, abortion has overtaken the economy as the single most important issue to their vote.If true, I think this may be one of the saddest things that I have heard, over a lifetime. :°(
Women aren't in danger with pregnancy. The only one in real danger, is the tiny human developing inside of her (heartbeat at 6 weeks)
Due to ignorance, politics, greed and outright evil."Women aren't in danger with pregnancy"
Who would like to step up and second this?So, no woman ever dies during pregnancy or childbirth? I'll just add this to the list of things the MAGA crowd denies as reality.
I never said that!
You are the one who acts as if pregnancy is a death sentenceIts so crazy to accept abortion and the killing of the child.
Its crazy because the union of a zygote and a sperm is so easily prevented. Pro-choice BEFORE MURDER!It's justified at every angle!
The language and phrases make it easier to accept something other than what it really is; the pile-on supporters give comfort, making it easier to look in the mirror and to sleep at night.
Never said it? This is exactly what you said - 'Women aren't in danger with pregnancy.' The vast majority of us would call death a danger. And plenty of women do die each year from pregnancy or childbirth.
I will put it this way, the odds of a pregnant woman surviving are greater than a developing baby's, when abortion is so accepted and adored.
Did you know that a developing human baby can taste by 20 weeks? Are we supposed to believe that they can taste, but cannot feel...pain for example?
Too many of you people are simply hateful. I'm done.
Seriously? Can someone explain? This man is not a serious candidate. So many questions... parents don't realize their child's gone for a few days? And who performs the surgery? School nurse or???
https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1830295072191173102Or how Trump is choosing to go to 'Sundown Towns' for his rallies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nNp8FOWGcYes, and President Donald Trump has been far more accessible to the press than harris.
How many times has she spent speaking with the press in an unscripted moment?
Try ZERO.
Her goal is to never have the American people discover who she is on any level.
So he can. Give Putin a hand and many others. He has come out and publicly stated that. And what about the way he treats women. He looks like a duck and talks like one. How could a big country respect such a person. He even banned his own son from joining the forces
Everyone already knows who she is and what she has done and at least she is not a criminal who makes up his own rules
As much as she changes her views on policies, nobody knows who she is and harris avoids talking to reporters or having press conferences so nobody knows where she stands on any issue and why she holds that view.
"As much as she changes her views on policies,"
"Trump told NBC News that six weeks "is too short."
"There has to be more time," he said. "I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks."
2 days later...
"Trump on Friday said he'll vote to uphold Florida's controversial six-week abortion ban".
I'm not sure if any Trump supporter wants to make flip-flopping an issueThe right and left responses to Harris shifting her political positions.
How do you know that?
Do you understand what this election is really about?
International Authority - Open Border - Limited Speech - Limited Rights
VS.
National Sovereignty - Controlled Border - Free Speech - Individual Rights
The two ideologies cannot co-exist within "The West" or within "America".
Liberty, Freedom, Opportunity, Personal Rights to Property and Protection.
VS.
Censored Speech, No Rights to Property and Protection, Equity not Merit, Social Credit determining what you are permitted to do, eat, say.You always like to try and frame the election in these forums how you want everyone else to see it. All while ignoring the abuses states are taking on that liberty and freedom front towards women. While ignoring the attacks from Trump on the free press, or that his government also asked Facebook to censor material because it was critical of him. Or that opportunity has a history of being suppressed for minority communities.
As for the opening issues, the ignoring that it was Democrats that were willing to alter the asylum laws that are being abused to create those open borders - only called open borders because Biden was choosing to follow international law on asylum.
Remind us again what happens to people in the Republican Party who use their free speech to criticize Trump. They get threatened and then kicked out of the party. Now, extrapolate that to a national level if he's in charge. Asking companies to remove speech that could endanger lives versus death threats for criticizing the leader. Yeah, pretty sure we can all see which of these is worse.There are two ways to approach/look at, this election:
As a concerned citizen, eyes wide open, mind is receptive, common sense is fine-tuned, as America hangs on by a thread.
Or
As a political operative, a political hack who always puts the Democratic Party first, no matter what!Those would be the only way it's viewed from MAGA supporters.
From our side, we see the election approached this way:
As a concerned citizen, who understands that Trump was convicted for cheating in the one election he won. By election people willing to work across the aisle on solutions and pass legislation that benefits the working class and not someone self-interest in passing himself and his ilk tax cuts where the benefits go mostly to the wealthy. That America has led the world in the recovery from a pandemic that the previous administration could not prevent from reaching our shores, lied to Americans about the dangers of, and likely helped prevent by pulling our scientists from China whose mission it was to prevent such a thing. That will stand in the way of a candidate that idolizes murderous dictators like Putin and Kim, and openly states he wishes to be just like them.
Or
Be part of a group that:
- believes everything from a known fraudster
- sends death threats to school board members, political volunteers, judges, and any politician that disagrees with their leader
- has carried out multiple domestic terror attacks on its own nation based on the violent rhetoric of that leader (Buffalo, El Paso, Cincinnati, Washington DC)
- aligns with and has the endorsement of the white supremacist groups in this nation
The choice is clear.
I believe we should question the assumption that "everyone already knows who she is and what she has done." While Kamala Harris is a notable political figure—serving as Vice President of the United States and with a lengthy career as a prosecutor and senator—it's important to consider: what exactly is she known for, and how well is her history understood by the general public? While her political positions have often leaned to the far left and she has been known for frequently changing her stance on various issues, beyond this, there is relatively little widely known about Harris. It’s worth exploring what her specific contributions and policy goals have been and how they have been communicated to the public. She is unwilling to take questions from the press. This is one thing that concerns me.
There is much to learn about Harris online if one is willing to be open-minded and have some time to do the research. I think anyone that is supporting her needs to know who she is... What she has represented in the way of her ideologies, and her various job performances.
You have to realize by now, President Trump has never stopped being President Trump, especially to these families.
It is time to let this one go!Why would they let it go?
They keep your (America's) attention on this frivolous issue, and while you waste your time on it, you ignore:
1 - Who is Running our country... it isn't Biden.
2 - What does Harris stand for... what does she represent... how will she handle the World on Fire that we are living in?
3 - The Gangs taking over Colorado
4 - The escalating Wars
You know, real issues that will impact many lives, not whether or not a pic should have been taken. This is Main Stream Media nonsense they focus you on idiotic stories like this while real issues are ignored.Ken, I agree. Thanks for sharing your thoughtful and practical insights.
The media once again seizes on sensational stories, like the report of Trump and the Gold Star families allegedly breaking rules at Arlington, to distract from more pressing, dangerous, and complex issues facing the nation. By focusing on this relatively minor controversy, some of our citizen's attention is diverted from far more critical topics. Many of us are concerned about the true leadership of the country, with doubts about Biden’s role and influence, and dementia problems. At the same time, questions surrounding Vice President Harris remain unanswered—what she stands for and how she plans to address the myriad global crises we face. Additionally, escalating violence, such as the rise of gang activity in places like Colorado, and the growing number of international conflicts are urgent matters that demand serious attention. Instead, the media’s fixation on less substantive issues prevents meaningful discussion and action on these crucial concerns. "Look here not there".Our government is still spinning out of control, and pulling in many that don't see what is smack in front of them. They ignore the dangerous current events and concentrate on Trump breaking a cemeteries rule. This mess puts me in mind of that old movie "The Body Snatchers".
Not only a campaign theme, but what we see in here daily.
I think most of us can comment and discuss one idea while maintaining interest or concern in a multitude of issues at the same time.
Currently, I am equally concerned that we have a mentally faltering man running for the highest office in the land. A man who thinks laws are optional, election interference is his right, doctors are murdering newborns and that the school nurse is doing sex change operations.And what is great --- you have every right to share your thoughts, without being stifled. That is what's great about America. We all have the right, to form views and share views in a civilized way. I note your concerns. I ask, are you doing equal research on the other candidate? Have you found any issues that you might question regarding her being fit to do the job of a president?
It is curious, and yet clear some prefer to discuss Trump, and this is fine, However, I am curious what are your thoughts on the other candidate. I have not noted anyone sharing much of anything regarding good or bad... The thread " Why Many Might Not Vote for Trump" Would not include sharing accolades regarding Harris, as a reason --- Why Many Might Not Vote for Trump?And yet, we get those reasons from the right often enough in these forums. There used to be a constant stream of anti-Biden threads - often repeated themes - to discuss such things. This thread was to voice the opposing viewpoints.
Let alone that many Americans will likely choose to vote against something in this campaign. Harris is a decent candidate. Experienced. Moral. Tough. Understands the laws she would be entrusted with. Willing to legislate across the aisle. And she is young and her mind is not failing - so a step up from where we were two months ago with the two geezers that were the choice."Experienced. Moral. Tough."
Moral? Do you know that she dated a married man decades older than her to get into California state politics? She got a very well paid "no show" job from him. Did you see how Tulsi Gabbard tore her apart in the debate when she attempted to run for president the first time? Do you recall what Tulsi said and how harris never denied what was said about her?
Tough? A person who is running for president and refuses to do a press conference or speak to reporters isn't tough. A person who has a scripted interview and can't do it alone but has to have her VP next to her for moral support is not tough. It makes this person look pretty weak.
Experienced? No major accomplishments after being in the White House for 3 1/2 years except messing up the border. Nothing.'Do you know that she dated a married man decades older than her to get into California state politics?' As usual, the right is either woefully ignorant or straight up inventing their own truths.
Harris was hired as an assistant DA a full four years before openly dating Willie Brown who was estranged from his wife for fourteen years before they dated. She then took the same job in San Fran three years after the relationship ended. Finally, a full six years after the relationship, she ran for public office. So, the distortions that were listed are the usual MAGA inventions we see.
Yeah, tough. Being a former prosecutor and DA, you've got to be tough. Being careful with the media is smart, not weak.
And absolutely experienced. The only qualifications needed for MAGA were being a reality TV show host. So, being a former state DA, US Senator, and current VP is well beyond those necessities. And this new expectation that a VP accomplish anything during a president's term is their latest invention not grounded in reality.You got one there, hands down, I cannot believe any Trump supporter throws that "she has no qualifications" card out there.
“I would think it’s fair to say that most of the people in San Francisco met her through Willie,” John Burton, who used to be president pro tem of the state Senate, former chair of the California Democratic Party and a San Francisco political powerhouse in his own right, told Politico.
The speaker gave Harris a couple plum positions on two state regulatory boards — the Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission. “If you were asked to be on a board that regulated medical care, would you say no?” Harris told SFWeekly a few years later.
Harris’ connection to Brown also helped her make connections across San Francisco high-society and California political elite. In 1996, a year after Brown became mayor and Harris broke off the relationship, she joined the board of trustees at San Francisco Museum of Modern Art."
Tulsi Gabbard destroys harris's presidential aspirations and puts her time as a prosecutor in perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WabvabWvv8k
Only a reality TV host? Talk about willful ignorance. He was a billionaire who ran one of the largest international real estate corporations in the world.
She is not "careful" of the press. She avoids them like the plague. Communicating with the Press is an essential element of being president. Holding press conferences, which she has never done, is an important part of the job. She needs to be able to do this without her emotional support VP.
She seems afraid of people getting to know the real her because she has a lot of explaining to do on her flip flops, etc.
Harris will be better for the economy.
Per two new analyses from the Penn Wharton Budget Model...
"Keeping Trump's campaign promises would increase the national debt by $5.8 trillion over 10 years, while Harris' would cost $1.2 trillion."
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/i … osals-2024
Goldman Sachs sees biggest boost to US economy from Harris win.
"Under a Republican sweep, or even with a divided government led by Donald Trump, economic output would take a hit next year, mostly from increased tariffs on imports and tighter immigration policies, Goldman said in a note late on Tuesday."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/goldma … 024-09-04/
The Penn reports follow a joint letter from 16 Nobel Prize-winning economists in June, who warned that Trump’s economic plan — particularly, his plan to deport immigrants en masse and impose 10% tariffs on all imports — would fuel inflation.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-econ … n-warning/
Moody’s Analytics came out with a report in June that reached a similar conclusion.
"Trump policies — including higher tariffs, tax cuts that stimulate the economy and an exodus of foreign immigrants that could tighten the labor market and increase labor costs — would fuel the uptick in inflation."
https://thehill.com/business/4731716-mo … inflation/
Her plans to incentivize small business are also stellar and receiving accolades.
On Wednesday, Fox Business host Stuart Varney interrupted RNC Co-Chair Michael Whatley in order to highlight the significance of this policy.
And from the business world? Mark Cuban has praised Harris for opening dialogue with business leaders/ceos in gathering opinions . Cuban appears to believe Harris is the best "pro business candidate."
https://newrepublic.com/post/185613/don … -idea-good
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mark-cuban-p … 21134.html
Cuban is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/6VWy10LPSiE?si=8Pwta2sF4c5wd8thI can't take Harris seriously because, frankly, I haven't heard any real agenda from her. Sure, she attempts to offer basic explanations of her plans for the country, but most of what she says goes completely against what I truly want for our nation. That, of course, poses a bit of a problem. I don't share her ideologies.
As for the economic outlooks, I've seen this song and dance before, especially back in 2016 when many so-called (some of the same you have listed) experts got their predictions wrong predicting Trump's economic plans would falter. I felt Trump's economy was a good one. As well in 2020 when some of the same you have mentioned predicted Biden would have positive success with his economic policies during his campaign. Naturally, some economists predicted the opposite, as there are today regarding Harris's plans for the economy We see economists every election disputing candidates' economic plans.
I don't believe economists can truly predict the future of the economy until a president is actually in office and we see what they do. History shows that some presidents take completely unexpected turns once they're in power, often straying far from what they initially ran on. So, when it comes to the economy, I'll just say this: the proof is in the pudding—we'll have to wait and see. I feel it is always a gamble to predict the economy until one has variables. One side as a rule ends up wrong.
I have no reason to demean Harris's economic plan. I feel too little is known, and I am unsure if she would follow what she has shared thus far. She is vague, and much of her vague ideas rely on a cooperative Congress. Which I think we can agree is not likely.
Lastly, I have greater respect for economists' insights when they evaluate a situation after a policy has been implemented. They have a better understanding of the actual policies in place and can assess the outcomes more effectively.
To add a few sources to back my comment, and how I came to my view. I can clearly remember these types of predictions, here are examples.
Several economic reports and analyses from 2020 anticipated that Joe Biden's economic plan could lead to positive outcomes, focusing on job creation, growth, and recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic. Here’s a list of some notable reports and forecasts from economists and institutions:
Moody’s Analytics
Title: The Macroeconomic Consequences of Joe Biden’s Economic Plan
Date: September 2020
Key Findings: This report predicted that Biden’s economic policies, including infrastructure spending, healthcare investments, and green energy initiatives, would lead to stronger job growth and economic recovery compared to Donald Trump’s policies. The analysis projected the creation of 7 million more jobs under Biden’s plan, with GDP growing at a faster rate due to the increased demand from government investments.
Authors: Mark Zandi (Chief Economist) and Bernard Yaros (Assistant Director)
Goldman Sachs
Internal Report
Date: October 2020
Key Findings: Goldman Sachs economists predicted that Biden’s proposed stimulus measures, including infrastructure spending, unemployment benefits, and support for state and local governments, would lead to faster economic recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic. The report anticipated that Biden’s plans would have a more substantial impact on growth than Trump's policies, which focused on tax cuts and deregulation.
S&P Global
Title: U.S. Election: Assessing the Economic Impact of Potential Policies from Presidential Candidates
Date: October 2020
Key Findings: S&P Global’s analysis suggested that Biden’s policies would contribute to long-term economic growth through large investments in infrastructure, education, healthcare, and clean energy. The report highlighted that the stimulus and spending measures in Biden’s plan would provide more immediate recovery, helping the economy bounce back from the recession caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Economic Policy Institute (EPI)
Title: Biden’s Economic Plan Would Boost U.S. Jobs by More Than 15 Million by 2024
Date: October 2020
Key Findings: EPI predicted that Biden’s plan would result in significantly higher job growth, especially through his investments in infrastructure and green energy. The report argued that Biden's proposals would boost the economy by creating millions of well-paying jobs and improving worker rights and wages through pro-labor policies.
Oxford Economics
Internal Report
Date: September 2020
Key Findings: The Oxford Economics report stated that Biden’s plans for increasing government spending on infrastructure and social programs would lead to faster economic recovery and job growth than the status quo. It also emphasized that his focus on climate change would attract investments in clean energy sectors, further boosting growth.
Brookings Institution
Title: How Biden’s and Trump’s Economic Plans Compare
Date: October 2020
Key Findings: The Brookings Institution’s analysis compared Biden and Trump’s economic proposals, concluding that Biden’s emphasis on long-term investments in healthcare, education, infrastructure, and clean energy would result in more sustained economic growth. They argued that these investments would raise productivity and create jobs, benefiting both low- and middle-income Americans.
Regarding Mark Cuban --- Both in 2016 and 2020 Cuban disparaged Trump's Economic Plan --- In 2016, Mark Cuban was highly critical of Donald Trump's economic plan during the presidential campaign. Cuban, expressed concerns about the feasibility and impact of Trump's proposals.
One of Cuban's main criticisms was that Trump's plan could lead to significant negative consequences for the economy, and potentially cause a financial crisis. Cuban also claimed that the policies would disproportionately benefit the wealthy while offering little to middle class or working-class Americans.But don't all economists use economic models to test the candidates plans?
I think Harris has outlined her plans in as much detail is possible at this point. We all know that the minutiae would be hammered out in Congress before a bill could be put together. I suppose I always think of candidates campaign promises / proposed policy as general ideas or visions. Who knows what the final product will be after that vision has been run through the grist Mill of Congress .
In terms of assessing the success of Trump's economy at the end of his term?
"Economists say Trump’s economic legacy will be defined by his failure in leadership during the COVID-19 pandemic that exacerbated the financial downturn, domestic policies that overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy, and international trade policies that hurt U.S. industry while simultaneously alienating allies."
"By attempting to implement economic policy through the so-called "art of the deal" and ignoring lessons that many economists have learned over the last 50 years -- such as the importance of Fed independence, the effects of large budget deficits on trade deficits, the value of multilateral institutions such as the World Trade Organization and more -- he failed to achieve his own self-proclaimed goals of reducing the trade deficit with China, controlling the national debt or strengthening the American manufacturing sector."
I don't want to dissect his economy too much but I think the criticisms before he took office matched the postmortem.
But at the end of the day, I struggle to take anything that Trump says seriously because he believes he is above the law, says he has the right to interfere in an election and is telling me that schools are performing sex change operations... As well as doctors are murdering newborns. I don't think he is well.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/trumps- … d=74760051"But don't all economists use economic models to test the candidate's plans?" --- As I said this kind of evaluation of a candidate's economic plans is done in every presidential election period. This is not new, and we always have some who wished they never stepped up to the plate, this can be assured. I might add, that I don't agree with most of what she wants to spend taxpayer dollars on. So it is obvious, I am biased on her proposed spending. I don't share her idelogies, never have.
We now have both candidate's plans being calculated, and predictions made. We see great divisions in predictions. I would not be so presumptuous to bet on who will come out winners, and some, Oh well.
"I think Harris has outlined her plans in as much detail is possible at this point. We all know that the minutiae would be hammered out in Congress before a bill could be put together. I suppose I always think of candidates' campaign promises/proposed policy as general ideas or visions."
I agree...
I appreciated Trump's handling of the economy; both my family, friends, and I did well during his time in office. I don't believe he did poorly on the economic front, even as COVID challenged the nation. When he left office, inflation and the cost of living remained low, at least in my experience.
As for Trump's legacy, I've never seen a president like him. His demeanor, his "Make America Great Again" policies, his fighting spirit, and his incredibly loyal support base set him apart. His presidency is something history won't forget, and I believe they’ll make films about his time in office. While some will always vilify him, others will appreciate his contributions. In my view, he leaves behind a notable history. I've always felt he had qualities reminiscent of both Reagan and Churchill.
I also give him significant credit for how he handled COVID. He was hands-on, got things done, and tried to keep the nation calm by appointing people he trusted, even when he disagreed with them. In my opinion, the biggest issue arose when he listened to the wrong people, and he ended up taking the blame for their advice.
I felt his deeds far outpaced any missteps he may have made with his off-the-cuff words that some dwelled on. It does appear words do mean more than factual deeds that help us get through a pandemic, and help save lives in a bleak situation.
From the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, former President Trump took several steps aimed at addressing the crisis and helping the country navigate the unprecedented challenges. Early on, he implemented travel restrictions from China in Jan 2020, (which he was ridiculed by Dems for being a racist) which many saw as an important move to slow the virus's spread to the U.S. His administration also led efforts to fast-track the development and distribution of vaccines through Operation Warp Speed, a public-private partnership that successfully accelerated the timeline for producing multiple vaccines.
Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to ensure that essential medical supplies like ventilators and personal protective equipment (PPE) were manufactured and distributed to frontline healthcare workers. Additionally, he supported financial relief efforts for Americans affected by the economic fallout, signing the CARES Act into law, which included stimulus checks, expanded unemployment benefits, and small business loans through the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP). Trump's focus on reducing bureaucratic hurdles and promoting treatments also aimed to increase the availability of potential therapies during the pandemic. Overall, these measures were part of a broader effort to address both the public health and economic impacts of COVID-19.
I always felt secure under his leadership and always felt he had my back...
The *entire* family of Kamala Harris running mate Tim Walz just endorsed TRUMP.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1831345408607736091
Imagine how big of a slimeball you have to be for YOUR PARENTS to not want you to be VP of the United States of America....or how brainwashed by MAGA. The older brother admits it's been eight years since he's talked to his younger brother. Let's see...what or who might have come on the political scene eight years ago. Oh, right.
This is so scary... I mean should this not be something all Americans should sit up and take notice of? My God, several of his close family do not support him. What the hell is wrong with people, this is a true red light.
This is something most American families can relate to and will relate to. How many of our families have been divided by political ideology? This is nothing out of the ordinary.
I don't think any of us expect to see families united by political beliefs.
What is the assumption here? That Walz is of some kind of monster because his family aligns more with the ideology of Trump?When asked about the authenticity of the picture, a representative for Herbster told Newsweek that those in the photo are related to Walz through his grandfather's brother and that it was shared by a family friend. The family gave Herbster permission to publish it online.
More context to fight X disinformation and the people that believe anything they see posted there.
A sister of Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz says she doesn’t recognize the people wearing “Nebraska Walz’s for Trump” T-shirts in a photo that is making the rounds on social media. It turns out they are distant cousins.
“The family in the picture are the descendants of Francis Walz, who was brother to Tim Walz’s grandfather,” Edwards said. “They’re all Walzes and spouses.”
The descendants of Francis Walz confirmed their relationship to Tim Walz in a text message to The Associated Press.
“Shortly after Governor Tim Walz was named the Democrat Party Vice Presidential nominee, our family had a get-together. We had t-shirts made to show support for President Trump and J.D. Vance and took a group picture. That photo was shared with friends, and when we were asked for permission to post the picture, we agreed,” the written statement said.
“The picture is real. The shirts are real. We are the Nebraska Walz family and we are related to Gov. Tim Walz, our grandfathers were brothers. The message on the shirts speaks for itself, “Nebraska Walzs for Trump.”
Also,
Tim Walz sister declined to comment on their distant cousins’ opposition to her brother and referred to herself and her family as “Democrats for Tim.”
“I know who I’m voting for. That’s all I can control,” she said.
Tim Walz’s mother, Darlene Walz, is not interfering in the rift between her son, who is running for vice president, and his brother, the Trump supporter who has become a thorn in the side of the Harris-Walz campaign.
Walz said she wants her son and Kamala Harris to defeat Donald Trump and JD Vance—she predicted they will win and that her son, the Minnesota governor, “will become vice president”—but she doesn’t want to meddle in her two children’s knotty relationship.
Darlene Walz is a lifelong Democrat who campaigned with her son when he successfully ran for Congress, barnstormed “every town in Minnesota” when he ran for governor, and attended the Democratic National Convention in Chicago to see her son, Tim, accept his party’s nomination for vice president. “Oh man, that was a blast,” she said, her Midwestern twang rising with excitement. “It was wonderful.”
Her only advice to polarized families such as her own is: “Keep your mouth shut and go vote.”
https://time.com/7017993/factcheck-tim- … s-brother/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-walzs … py-brother
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tim-walz-mom … 57882.html
On a policy note, why many will not vote for Trump...
Goldman Sachs has joined Moody's in stating that a Harris win will provide a stronger boost to our economy.
On the inflation front, Goldman Sachs says that a Trump win will likely lead to a rise in core inflation amid increased tariffs on auto imports from China and the EU.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/goldma … 024-09-04/I honestly think the right hears only what they want to hear. Most economists were predicting a recession when Biden took office. That we didn't get a major one is one of the success stories of the Biden term.
Maybe someone slept through 2020 if they always felt secure under his leadership. Because when he openly lied about the dangers of a deadly pandemic, that's the last thing people should have felt secure about.
Donald Trump was asked if he would commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable, and if so, what specific legislation he would advance.
His response:
"Well, I would do that, and we're sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It's a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. Couldn't, you know, there's something, you have to have it – in this country you have to have it.
But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they're not used to — but they'll get used to it very quickly – and it's not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Uh, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're talking about, including child care, that it's going to take care.
We're gonna have - I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about.
We're gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care, uh, is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. We're going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other people, but we're going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It's about Make America Great Again, we have to do it because right now we're a failing nation, so we'll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you."
Yisus!
What his base calls clear policies and the rest of us call a word salad by a meandering old man who doesn't seem to have a grasp on any of the issues.
He didn't answer any of the questions. It was like the kid who didn't read the book presenting his report to the class. MSM gives him a pass. Harris would have been absolutely crucified if she gave any of his answers.
He doesn't know what to say if either tariffs or the border don't fit the answer... But he uses them anyway.
Did he answer this question?
I will refer to Mark Cuban's X account because the question and answer is posted in a photo. Rather than use the space here.
https://x.com/mcuban/status/1831837993612800059
https://x.com/mcuban/status/1831835636984348789Former Republican Vice President Dick Cheney is apparently voting for Kamala Harris. That might really give Republicans a permission structure to cross over and vote for her.
That might give true Liberals and true Democrats pause... I would hope.
Cheney is very close to being what the Biden-Harris Administration accuse Trump of being.
Warmongers of a feather flock together... no surprise really.
On to real issues that matter to real Americans:
Did the Biden-Harris Administration abandon Hurricane Helene Victims?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvNahqkxOgWow, a facist who started a war in the middle east and lied about the weapons of mass destruction is backing Harris.
I saw Trump condemning the white supremacist that supports him and saying he does not want their votes. Why is Kamala saying she does not want votes from Cheney?You saw Trump condemning 'the white supremacist that supports him.' Like there's only one? And when and where was this?
A Republican former Vice President who chooses not to endorse their own party candidate is a big deal. There are now two that have made that choice.White supremacists. I am suprised you would admit that you have not seen him state that he condmemns them, as he has made this clear for years. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/t … KBN26N0AB/ I guess the MSM would only be satisfied if he went out and killed a white supremacist, however, and then they could report it.
A warmonger is really how you want to support your cause? As I said, if Kamala was in this to be morally superior she could state that she does not accept support from the war party. Since the Dems have now shifted to the war party though this makes a lot of sense.
As Bill Maher commented on his show, it is not that he left the party it is that the party left him. The Dems are now anti-science and pro-war.Thanks for the link. I do recall him trying to clean up the 'stand back and stand by' line from the debate. It was hard for many to believe after we watched him live and on the spot fail to do so. The deflection, and promotion of white supremacists in the moment, was illuminating.
Not sure where the anti-science comment came from, because when the GOP is front-running the guy who told people to drink disinfectant to cure Covid, that statement is just comical. And we'll take the American warmonger and you guys can have the Russian one. Trump has no problem accepting the backing of Putin, so the hypocrisy of criticizing Harris in this is on full display.
But we see it so often these days. Two standards for the candidates. The right attacks the opposition while their guys does the same thing, and often to a much larger degree." the guy who told people to drink disinfectant to cure Covid"
How many years do you think we will be hearing this lie? There is zero truth in it, but we still hear it every few days - how many years do you think it will continue?As long as the media and politicians like Pelosi and Biden propagate it, over, and over again.
True, he didn't say to drink it. He used disinfectant and injections, so his supporters started to drink it as a result. Technicality.
Trump's quote:
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
It's interesting to see how many reasons former Trump voters now list for voting for Harris this time around:
https://rvat.org/#testimonialsWhy Many Might Not Vote for Trump
Because he's not only a liar, but an awful disgusting human being.
He went to Georgia to try to make political wins out of the suffering of so many.
Trump falsely says Georgia's governor was unable to talk to Biden about storm damage
Republican Gov. Brian Kemp said President Joe Biden offered any help the state needs.
Donald Trump repeatedly spread falsehoods Monday about the federal response to Hurricane Helene despite claiming not to be politicizing the disaster as he toured hard-hit areas in south Georgia.
The former president and Republican nominee claimed upon landing in Valdosta that President Joe Biden was “sleeping” and not responding to Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who he said was “calling the president and hasn’t been able to get him.” He repeated the claim at an event with reporters after being told Kemp said he had spoken to Biden.
Yet earlier in the day Kemp, a Republican, said that he initially missed Biden’s call but that he called back and that the two were able to connect Sunday evening.
“The president just called me yesterday afternoon and I missed him and called him right back and he just said ‘Hey, what do you need?’ And I told him, you know, we’ve got what we need, we’ll work through the federal process,” Kemp said. “He offered if there are other things we need just to call him directly, which I appreciate that.”
Kemp said he has “been playing phone tag” with Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, but praised the bipartisan response.
Trump, writing on his social media platform Monday, also claimed without evidence that the federal government and North Carolina’s Democratic governor were “going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas.” Asheville, which was devastated by the storm, is solidly Democratic, as is much of Buncombe County, which surrounds it.If Trump were Captain of RMS Titanic...
"There isn't any iceberg.
I know more about icebergs than anybody.
There was an iceberg but it's in a totally different ocean.
The iceberg is in this ocean but it will melt very soon.
There is an iceberg but we didn't hit the iceberg.
We hit the iceberg, but the damage will be repaired very shortly.
The iceberg is a Chinese iceberg.
We are taking on water but every passenger who wants a lifeboat can get a lifeboat, and they are beautiful lifeboats.
Look, passengers need to ask nicely for the lifeboats if they want them.
We don't have any lifeboats, we're not lifeboat distributors.
Passengers should have planned for icebergs and brought their own lifeboats.
I really don't think we need that many lifeboats.
We have lifeboats and they're supposed to be our lifeboats, not the passengers' lifeboats.
The lifeboats were left on shore by the last captain of this ship.
Nobody could have foreseen the iceberg.
I'm an expert on icebergs, I've got lots of friends who deal with icebergs. Some of the best. Really good ice people who know ice and their forms of berginess.
We’ve done such a tremendous job, some people have drowned but there are life jackets for everyone. If anyone doesn’t have a life jacket it’s their own fault.
I have the most beautiful evacuation concept of a plan like nobody has ever seen before.
To prevent sinking and drowning passengers can get injected with air and become live life jackets.
No, that was just a sarcastic joke.
We need to reopen the restaurant on board. There is no problem with this ship. The captain of the Russian ship told me so.”Trump expanding his history of leaving his cult members stranded in isolated rally locations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvxegqKg8-cValeant, I wanted to take this excerpt from an Atlantic Article, as the publication has a pretty solid paywall. This seems like the right place to put it.
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I find this moment particularly painful and disorienting. I have had strong rooting interests in Republican presidential candidates who have won and who have lost, including some for whom I have great personal admiration and on whose campaigns I worked. But no election prior to the Trump era, regardless of the outcome, has ever caused me to question the fundamental decency of America. I have felt that my fellow citizens have made flawed judgements at certain times. Those moments left me disappointed, but no choice they made was remotely inexplicable or morally indefensible.
This election is different.
The nominee for the Republican Party, Donald Trump, is a squalid figure, and the squalor is not subtle. His vileness, his lawlessness, and his malevolence are undisguised. At this point, it is reasonable to conclude that those qualities are a central part of Trump’s appeal to many of the roughly 75 million people who will vote for him in three weeks. They revel in his vices; they are vivified by them. Folie à millions.
Trump may lose the election, and by that loss America may escape the horrifying fate of another term. But we have to acknowledge this, too: The man whom the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country” is in a razor-thin contest against Kamala Harris, a woman who, whether you agree with her or not, is well within the normal boundaries of American politics. If he loses, he will not concede. Trump will instead attempt to tear the country apart. He can count on the near-total support of his party, and the majority of the white evangelical world. They will once again rally to his side, in the name of Jesus.
This should leave the rest of us shaken. Not because America, despite being an exceptional nation, has ever been perfect, or close to perfect. We have experienced slavery and segregation, the Trail of Tears and the internment of Japanese Americans, McCarthyism and My Lai, the Johnson-Reed Act and the beating and torture of the suffragists, the Lavender Scare, and the horrors of child labor. But what makes this moment different, and unusually dangerous, is that we have never before had a president who is sociopathic; who relishes cruelty and encourages political violence; who refers to his political opponents as “vermin,” echoing the rhetoric of 20th-century fascists; who resorts to crimes to overturn elections, who admires dictators and thrives on stoking hate. Trump has never been well, but he has never been this unwell. The prospect of his again possessing the enormous power of the presidency, this time with far fewer restraints, is frightening.
Jonathan Rauch, a contributor to The Atlantic, recently reminded me that the Founders warned us about such a scenario. They knew this could happen, he said, and they gave us multiple safeguards. Those safeguards are in danger of failing. “My faith in democracy is breaking,” he told me. “Part of me is breaking with it.” Americans have three weeks to keep the break from happening.
Abraham Lincoln, during the Civil War, in his annual message to Congress, told Americans that “we here hold the power, and bear the responsibility.” What was at stake was emancipation, of course, but also “honor or dishonor.”
“We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth” is how Lincoln concluded his remarks.
If Donald Trump wins the election, those of us who grew up loving America won’t stop loving her. But it will be a love tinged with profound disappointment and concern, almost to the point of disbelief. It is one thing, and quite a disturbing thing, for Trump’s soul to represent the soul of his party. It is quite another, given all we know, for him to represent, as president, the soul of his country. It would be an act of self-desecration.
We’re not there yet. Ours is still a republic, if we can keep it.
Trump will inspire massive turnout, both for and against his movement. That much is for certain. He's made in-roads with certain minorities, but out-roads with a significant chunk of his own movement after January 6 that offset that. And the women's vote should, in theory, be his downfall in this election. But, we will see. His propaganda tactics are relentless and have brainwashed so many of our fellow citizens. And there is no coming back for a large bloc of them.
I thought that I would include this important commentary to the mix.....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-top- … 00166.htmlGreat piece.
'But candidates for high office either have integrity and high moral standards or they don’t. We must be able to trust presidents to be factual and honest, to obey the nation’s laws, and to keep their oaths to preserve and defend the Constitution. We need a mentally acute, emotionally stable president who is willing to put the nation’s well-being above personal and political gain. We need a president who will protect and preserve democracy.".
I would only add...and to pledge to be a president for all. But what we've got is a candidate who demonizes half the country.Hi there Cred,
I get the feeling the forums are near an end.
If so, let me say, it has been abundantly beneficial for my own understanding and growth to have spent a decade or so debating and deliberating about the world around us, with you as much as any with whom participated on here these many years.
I know I have taken the time to consider things, and research events, I would not have if not for your participation.
Whatever is to come in the weeks ahead, I hope it works out better than either of us fear it will... and that we move on to a better time despite the misgivings each of us have, for so very different reasons.I am going to miss you, who am I going to get to spar with?
We been at odds but our discourse has made me scratch my head as to carefully examining my beliefs when they being challenged
I will be here until Trump has me arrested if he wins. You might look in on us from time to timeI didn't mean for it to come across as if I were leaving...
I believe HP may be leaving us, shortly... therefore, no more forums...
Anywho, let me leave you with something to give you hope that you will get the Harris Presidency you want:
Same goes for anyone voting in CA...
No worries my friend, the fix is in... as I said months ago, Harris will "win".Hey Ken, they have Cal in the bag always do... I am banking on the EC to win. It is looking good. Would they dare cheat? Not sure she will even get the popular vote. I am banking on Americans to step up, I have faith they will.
The Hill Left rag Former President Trump on Sunday overtook Vice President Harris for the first time in the Decision Desk HQ/The Hill election forecast this cycle.
The model predicts Trump has a 52 percent chance of winning the presidency while Harris has a 42 percent chance, as of Sunday.
Since late August, the election forecast put Harris’s chances of winning at approximately 54 to 56 percent, with Trump’s chances at approximately 44 to 46 percent. OH MY! The tide is turning. She has been TRUMPEDYeah, I know, if it were an election based on verified voters and ballots...
Elon Musk: "What Is Coming In The Next 20 Days Is UGLY And May DESTROY America..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUUBBFT … INWa_-hhSwProof That Reality Is An ILLUSION: The Mystery Beyond Space-Time | Donald Hoffman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7z26d8IsUcKen, It seems like Elon Musk is hoping to provoke the establishment. He needs public support, and what better way to rally people than by challenging the DOJ directly? But they probably won't come after him—they don't want to give him a platform. Even so, it's clear Musk is now taking his message directly to the public, determined to challenge the system. The Democrats' strategy seems simplistic, and with Musk and Trump both speaking out, it could be a double hit to their corrupt agenda.
I don't think many people understand the consequences if Harris wins. But if she does, I believe there are enough of us who value democracy to make her agenda an uphill battle. I think most people would wake up and say, "Not on our watch!"
Plus, keep in mind that history shows when things get tough, liberals often shift to more comfortable positions. They can be inconsistent and hypocritical when it comes to supporting causes. They talk a good game until things backfire, and then they adapt to keep their comfort zones intact. Ultimately, the Democrats' extreme agenda will likely leave them feeling quite uncomfortable. Ken, just the way it is. They want lots of organic ice sugarless, low-fat, cream until it is discovered it tastes bad, and gives them the runs. Then it's back to Ben & Jerry's "Chunky Monkey".You are basing this on ballots being filled out by individuals and their identity being verified... the old election process...
That was upended in 2020... today, all the controlled Democrat states and most of the "toss-up" states, like PA, have changed their laws, and now allow for mail-in-ballots with no means of verifying who actually filled them out, and some states like CA, have made it so no ID and no proof of citizenship is required at all.
What happened in 2020 in six states was not normal or acceptable.
We have testimonies, affidavits, and video evidence of massive irregularities in the contested states of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada. There are reports provided under penalty of perjury pertaining to the ejection of witnesses or requiring extreme distances from the count, failure to verify signatures, and vote-counting rule changes. Workers were told to go home, reportedly due to a burst pipe (that may have been just a clogged toilet). Security footage shows ballots pulled from suitcases hidden underneath tables—after workers were dismissed—that reportedly coincides with ballot otherwise eliminate data from the election even as the outcome is contested.
It is unacceptable that witnesses to this activity have been threatened and intimidated. Yet that has been happening. If there was no fraud, why? We have a responsibility to protect our election but also to protect whistleblowers who warn us of bad behavior.
https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ten … nderstand/
If the 2020 Election Was Held in a Foreign Country, the State Department and Western Media Would Declare it “Fraudulent”
https://revolver.news/2020/11/if-our-el … raudulent/
Or as someone more sinister and clever than I am once said "Its not who votes that matters... its who counts the votes"....and all of what Ken just listed was thoroughly debunked, especially the 'ballots pulled from suitcases hidden underneath tables' bunk. All that post did was display how far down the rabbit hole people in the MAGA cult have gone. It'd be sad, if they hadn't turned to violence against their own government based on these lies and misunderstandings of the actual voting process - which is what the courts noted happened with those 'affidavits and testimonies.' Every single one was shown how the person filing them did not understand the process because they skipped the training to know what was going on. Stupid people convincing other stupid people to mistrust the system.
Ken, I'm just trying to say that things aren't as bleak as they might seem. Yes, a lot of what you've mentioned is very plausible, but some of it is beyond our control. We might see similar challenges again this time around. Still, I believe Americans are fundamentally committed to democracy. Sure, some are exploring alternative paths, but let's be real—those people would eventually realize the folly if the Democrats pushed their far-left agenda too hard. We've always had a few lost causes, and every now and then, they need to be reined in. I do agree that if Harris wins, we could see an escalation of the chaos and another downturn in the economy, maybe even more involvement in wars. This would truly push the American people to their breaking point, and the grand "New World" they envisioned would crumble around them. Now isn't the time to just dwell on what they might do and passively accept it. It's the time to follow Musk's example—stand up, say "not on my watch," and make our voices heard. Not as defeatists, but as fighters.
Look at the polls—this shows we're a massive force to be reckoned with. So many of us are seeing exactly what you've pointed out. If Trump doesn’t win, do you think we’ll still have a strong and powerful voice? I believe it’s clear that we won’t just accept what Harris is offering. Our voices will still be heard, probably louder than ever. We’re not about to give up our freedom of speech or democracy.
This morning, something really struck me. I was listening to Trump speak to the storm victims in North Carolina, and I heard many of them express how grateful they were that he came. Some even said they loved him, and right there, they offered a prayer for him. It was incredibly touching to see a leader receive that kind of affection. Trump is at his best with the people—he connects with them, and I think that’s why he’s doing so well in the polls.
On the other hand, Harris spent the weekend shouting at the top of her nasally voice about what a terrible person Trump is. I won’t repeat the ugly words she used. Just a few weeks ago, she was all about "joy"—talking about coming together and healing the divide. Yet now, there’s no joy in her speeches. She’s screaming, acting more like a dictator herself, with dire warnings about Trump.
It makes me wonder—why do we see so many people supporting, loving, and praying for Trump, but I don’t hear that same kind of loyalty and love from her supporters? It’s a stark contrast.
She is not for the people, nor can she be among the people. This is why you don't see her even acknowledge the people. As of yet, she won't present herself for a true press conference. They would have her melting.All that is true... which is why I think she will be America's Stalin... or worse.
She stole the Democrats’ presidential nomination from a dementia-addled nursing home patient without receiving a single vote from the electorate and while having the lowest approval rating of any modern VP.
She is the puppet of a Party that has us on the doorstep of WWIII, flooded the country with illegal aliens, supports fraudulent mail-in-ballot operations so they can overwhelm legitimate voters in battleground states; uses the FBI, CIA, and NSA to do what they do best, on political rivals; and slander Donald Trump as a “dangerous Nazi” enough times to incite repeated attempts on his life.
Depending upon where she is and perhaps how much she’s had to drink, she twists her speech patterns into all manner of Frankensteinian phonemes loosely resembling urban slang, rural drawls, highbrow enunciation, lowbrow contraction, and even Spanish and French patois. She’s everything and nothing all at once.
You underestimate the collective power of the Americans who support her, clearly she has the government operatus and Hollywood elites backing her effort, between the power of the media and alphabet agencies, that is a lot of power and ability to manipulate the masses...
But she has more... all the young, single women who have been indoctrinated to believe that Donald Trump will somehow prevent them from choosing casual sex with strangers ... women of every age who enjoy wearing knit vulvas atop their heads and support abortion up to the moment of birth.
She’s got all the gullible climate-otologists (similar to Scientologists) who believe not only that “global warming” models are real (such predictions have been wrong for over one hundred years), but also that the planet can be “saved” by forcing citizens to pay a carbon tax to the government.
She has the full support of all the race-hustlers, LGBTQIA+ fanatics and ideological malcontents who agree only that they all hate white people, straight males, Christians, Jews, and happy families.
And I'd imagine all of the 20+ million non-citizens that are in the country.
In other words, she has a larger, and likely far more deviant and diabolical base than anyone in the center or on the right want to give her credit for.
The bureaucratic blob, the Deep State, the national security surveillance state, the armies of pencil-pushing, regulation-loving cubicle kings posing as humble “public servants” the government Leviathan that answers to no one else. They support Harris. The monolithic media (what remains of it) supports her, and they are all arrogant to the extreme, rules and laws written by 'dead white men' mean nothing to them.
They are going to bring the revolution to America, whether the majority of Americans want it or not.
It is the same type of scenario that we have watched play out in other nations... and I have yet to see an American people with enough spine and sanity left to stop it.I completely agree with your sentiments regarding Harris, and I could definitely add to your list of concerns.
I also have serious concerns about the potential for significant shifts in power and the impact on American society. I believe there is a growing hope among some Democrats for an overhaul of existing government structures, which could involve social revolutions aimed at changing societal norms, economic revolutions targeting the distribution of wealth and resources, or cultural revolutions focused on altering prevailing values and beliefs. I wonder if such a takeover would be accepted by the majority of Americans.
It’s true that many people have become complacent and are not even aware of the turmoil we see around us; they are just going through life without staying informed about politics and, unfortunately, not voting. In the United States, voter turnout in presidential elections typically ranges from about 50% to 60% of the eligible voting population. I think this disengaged group makes up a huge portion of the population. I believe that most Americans would rally against what some are trying to implement. We value our freedom and the benefits of our democracy, and I have no doubt that a great majority would rise up if they felt their freedoms were threatened.
Many in the Democratic Party vote out of loyalty to a party they trust. I believe there’s only a small minority that genuinely embraces more radical ideas.
We should place our trust in American citizens to safeguard what we value. I have confidence that Americans would rise up and truly resist a radical government takeover. This group has been trying to subtly introduce their extreme agenda, but it’s becoming increasingly obvious and desperate, and they’re no longer making much of an effort to conceal their intentions.This is the norm of such things... they need a solid 30% of the populace to buy into the ideology, that will stand firm and steadfastly believe in what they are doing even as they haul off all who speak out against them to the jails... or worse.
We are living through the unrest, the turmoil that precedes such events.
Then come the excuses for it... escalations toward WWIII... Terrorism (The Night of Broken Glass)... that allow them to crack down, silence all dissent, remove from the populace all those with the ability to stand and fight (ie Elon Musk).
Then comes the flight of people who see it for what it is... and get out before its impossible to flee. This will occur soon after Harris is placed in the Presidency... similar to:
The (im)possibilities of escaping. Jewish emigration 1933 – 1942
https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank … 1933-1942/
There was no room for anyone with different ideas; from the very beginning, opponents of the regime were intimidated, persecuted and imprisoned in concentration camps. Many political and cultural dissidents therefore quickly left the country, whether they were Jewish or not.
There is no room in this New America that the Harris cabal want to bring about for dissent (aka Misinformation or Hate Speech) or for challenging the government:
Elon Musk fights agency powers at Supreme Court
https://www.eenews.net/articles/elon-mu … eme-court/
The government will oppress the people... they will win... they always do, until the corruption and incompetence become so bad the whole system collapses in on itself (ie the USSR)... or until it is defeated in War when enough countries line up against it and say... no more.
I think its cool... we get not just the first woman President... but our first American Stalin as well... get your popcorn out and get ready to watch it all unfold... like watching a car crash in slow motion.Come on, Ken—can we count on you to raise your voice and speak your truth? I can only hope that more people will stay true to the values we hold dear and resist the forces of tyranny. Just think about what we’ve witnessed since Trump first descended that escalator. We have one man still standing strong against extreme evil. As Harris says, we aren’t going back. We will never return to the last four years we've endured due to the Democrats’ mismanagement. I have faith, and the light is getting brighter every day.
Harris is an unlikeable person and offers nothing.GASP. Do you think she'll try to take away the broadcasting licenses of media she doesn't like? I mean, good idea right?
On the other side of town . . .
Is Hubpages dying
https://hubpages.com/community/forum/36 … ages-dying
Backing Up Your HubPages Thread
https://hubpages.com/community/forum/36 … ges-threadI noticed all my articles were moved to discover.hubpages.com. Except a few that were pet-related. They sent me an email a bit ago that this was being done. Are they going out of business? I knew that they were shifting articles around due to the email. They made no mention of closing up shop. Maybe just a rumor.
No, I believe Trump will win because of the very nature of too many Anglo voters in this country. Combine that with Trump's secret sauce of raising fears through racism, Xenophobia and misogyny, how does he lose?
I better get ready to pack because on the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, America will cease to be a democracy.
It will lose credibility on the world stage, will be attacked by Russia and China as hypocrites, regarding promoting democracy and the rule of law and not that of one man.
I will take the European side and denigrate America from the perspective of a prisoner. I would leave, but all things are not possible. As a fascist, theocracy, America will lose stature and I hope that hits the "establishment" in the pocketbook from an international standpoint. We can forget about world leadership, henceforth. We will devolve into not much better than the South African apartheid in the early 199os, a true pariah state. We will fold into ourselves, reverting into a less evolved society while other democratically based societies (Canada, and Western Europe) move forward.
I leave you with that, farewell if it comes down to the forum breaking up. Again, this has all been most revealing.Canada and Western Europe are devolving into non-functional nations with no means to stand up to anyone... militarily or economically.
All of the West is decaying into a totalitarian dysfunctional set of nations trying to create a New World Order based on International authorities and UN agendas.
The rest of the world is bailing on this insanity as fast as they can, joining BRICS... Russia and China in their alternative to SWIFT and America...
This is all of the result of the insanity this Administration has pursued against Russia... while stumbling over itself to appease Iran after Trump crippled them economically.
The harm the past 4 years has done is enough to topple America... this election is just the finishing touches to the end of America the land that was once the beacon for the world...
You cannot be a beacon... if you surrender your Sovereignty to a International authority... if you restrict speech and rights to property, privacy and protection.
The Biden Administration has pursued every single thing that so many said Trump would lead us to... from WWIII to political opponents being jailed and convicted by courts that can hop higher than any Kangaroo.
Amen and hear, hear Shar!!
https://youtu.be/nvlTJrNJ5lA?si=0t07RnyTMBwiDJkbBack at you friend ---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSI30Ri … 67xwkiqp0sShe's not bad, and awfully brave to take on a Tom Petty song. Good for her!!
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