What positive things has Obama had on your life?

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celafoeposted 13 years ago
this sorry muslim half breed has ruined our country. He is selling us down the river. Why do the black people support him he is not black or white the answer is impeach - convict -of his treasonist actions - execute- as the law requires for treason.
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  yellowstone8750posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!
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  steveamyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  dude lay of the Limbaugh/Hannity Kool-Aid
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
"Why?"

No, not because of unions, but because your falling into a trap that many of us have fallen into
that will destroy this country. I admit to falling into it as well—so there is no blame meant in my statement or request. Honest!!

And I would really like to know what you think about what is said on the show. It's not a partisan thing—it's an FYI Thing! Have some faith!! ;-)
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's going to be Wednesday night before I can listen to it but, I promise, I will.
  
  I must admit I like this honest give and take better than before.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Six weeks! I guess LH is a busy guy . . . who doesn't keep his promises.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very busy, Wizard. Sick son. I'll keep my promise.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry to hear it, LH—every good wish!
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, Wizard.
  
  I would've listened by now but I can't listen at the office and I haven't gotten on the computer at home much lately.
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
Me too!
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Dear Josieposted 13 years ago
Obama has made me GLAD to be a Republican!
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SOBFposted 13 years ago
Let me make a list of just a few for you to review.

1. Created a economic climate the allowed stock market to recover from the 4,000 point drop caused by previous administrations. (So much for socialism)

2. Put in place a health care system that actually stops the rationing of health care by health insurance (for profit) companies by making it illegal to deny someone coverage due to preexisting conditions.

3. Saved me hundreds of dollars per year by stopping the predatory practices of banks and credit card issuers.

4. Made the cost of education less costly by taking the banks out of the student loan process. As a result students no longer have to pay high interest rates on money that was loaned risk free via federal guarantee by the banks.

Thanks
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  1. Hmmm, An when did the market hit over 14,000, who was President then, Oh yea the loser Bush. And who is the President that had the highest revenues in history, oh yae the loser Bush. Now di me call him loser make the truth easier for you to handle.
  
  2. Put on place the most restrictive healthcare system tha has a price tag that would bankrupt almost every country in the world and is on the way to do it to ours.
  
  3. Has single handedly destroyed the banking system. First Dems fave them the laws to go on a loan spree without consequences, then the Dems bail them out, then they make it so the banks do not want to loan or help middle class Americans anymore, not to mention the fees and regulations whos cost was passed on to middle class Americans.
  
  4. By Obama taking the banks out of the equation, there is not longer enough funds out there to help students be able to go to college now. So much for that lets get them in college as Obama says.
  
  Says one think, his actions show something else. Time for people to look past the talking points.
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  SOBFposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  1. Double Hmmm. On Bush's last day in office the market had dropped to 8,000. That's a decline of 6,000 points. Almost half the value in the market had been lost by the time GW walked away. I guess selective memory is a blessing.
  
  2. Most expensive healthcare system that would bankrupt almost every country in the world? Every developed country in the world already uses a more extreme healthcare system (single payor) than Obama care. Or did you not know that socialized medical care was the standard for economically advanced countries?
  
  3. You mean the banking system that posted record profits over the past two years? If that's destruction where do I sign up.
  
  4. Wow...was your next line actually about people looking past talking points. Where do you get your information? Don't answer "FAUX"
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  JaxsonRaineposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Did you know that almost every other developed country in the world is in more debt than the US?
  
  Yes, government can give healthcare to everyone. No, it can't necessarily pay for it. When a country never stops increasing its deficit, it must invariable default on its currency at some point.
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  SOBFposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  JaxsonRaine - You mean like Canada's economic downfall?
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  SOBF,
  
  Time for you to do some real research and not keep following talking points. why don't you read up on where the economy was when Bush came into office. Follow the real Wall Street charts and see where the DJI went. See what happened after 911, continue on and see the recovery, read up on the impending doom the Republicasns were calling for when Barney frank kept it up saying the housing was solid and "Fannie is the best investment in the future, the stock will triple". Wall street reacted knowing that the crash was coming because the Dem Controlled Congress would do nothing about it. Add on top what traditionally happens because Wall Street does not like uncertainty. The market always goes down months leading into a Presidential election when change is or could be coming. The same will happen later this year.No President is responsible for that drop. Add it all up and you know why the market went down prior to Obama, but what is his excuse for the market that kept going down. What is his excuse for less revenues despite his claim of a robust economy, almost a trillion in losses from his poor investments in green energy, his excessive tax hikes, excessive regulations, a failed healthcare program that has left more uninsured than when it started, premiums have gone up at a faster pace, less medical procedures are covered and of course all the tax hikes from Obamacare.
  
  By the way, what is FAUX? What government organization, branch of government, department of records or statistical reports are they? Never heard of them. If you are talking that they are a media organization, perhaps I can suggest you watch CSPAN. You can see first hand exactly what is going on as it happens, right out of the horses mouths.
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  SOBFposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  American View,
  
  Really?!? Did you just attempt to classify the market collapse of 2008 as a simply downturn do to the fact that it was an election year? The market losing almost half its value is not a election year blip. History will record your blip as the second worst crash in the history of this country.
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
Here, here!

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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I see you've been working in Photoshop again.
  
  Excellent propaganda piece, Wizard.
  
  Increased veterans' benefits every year? Looks like it's about to be taken back.
  
  http://www.newsmax.com/US/obama-cuts-mi … /id/430757
  
  This is just one of many that are pure BS, Wizard. You may want to check your facts and revise the PSD file.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nonsense—just more of the Fox News Disinformation Campaign to distract and promote fear and resentment.
  
  You can't provide a reputable source? — do a global internet search and you'll see that only conservative "news" and blogs are promoting this lie. It's a new talking point given to the harlot-news teams by the RNC because their other crap-info has been ineffective.
  
  You can do better, LH, or it wont be any fun for either of us.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  HA HA HA!!!!!
  
  Okay, Wizard, I'll be back when I have more time.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Actually Wiz,m its not. You need to go read the DOD budget and all its cuts it has. Their Benefits is going to be cut, they will get a pay raise now but after the next pay raise their salary will freeze. There is more.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  AV- Are you referring to the mandatory cuts that automatically kick in after the 2012 election?
  
  If not, links please.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Wiz,
  
  The DOD presented a budget to Congress. I know you know that. If you read that budget by Leon Panetta you will see all of what I wrote and more.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your deceit is obvious and you know (or you should know) that every budget is not fixed, but is, rather, a negotiation in Congress before passage.
  
  So your claim is a baldfaced lie — the fact is Obama never cut any military benefits or salaries.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, there you go, attacking when you know you are wrong, typical. You obviously do not understand how the ACTUAL process works. So pay attention.
  
  Each Department creates their own budget with the assist of the President and his advisers. The President and his advisers then look at the budget, accept it or make changes. That budget is then sent to Congress where it is debated, accepted or defeated. Of course if it is accepted the President still has to sign off on it. If Congress makes any changes he does not approve of, he of course Vetos the budget.
  
  School is out.
  
  From the DOD summary attached to the DOD budget submitted to the President then was submitted to Congress:
  
  "The 2013 budget calls for troops to receive a pay raise next year on par with private-sector wage growth — a 1.7 percent pay bump for all troops in 2013. Parity with the private sector would continue in 2014. However, in 2015, military pay raises will freeze.
  
  Another primary target for cost cutting is the military health system. The budget calls for an abrupt drop in the military health care budget to $48.7 billion, which would be a drop of 8 percent from the $52.8 billion appropriated in 2012.
  
  For years, military officials have complained about soaring health care costs, which nearly tripled since 2001, when the total cost was $19 billion.
  
  To achieve the savings, the Pentagon hopes to make several changes that will impact retirees:
  
  • Increase Tricare enrollment fees for working-age retirees.
  
  • Impose Tricare enrollment fees for the first time on retirees age 65 and older.
  
  • Increase pharmacy co-payments for retirees.
  
  • Change laws to allow for health care fees to increase at the rate of medical inflation."
  
  And the truth will set you free. You can keep spinning and twisting the facts all you want. It does not change what is actually going to happen. Sort of like the healthcare thread from months ago when I told everyone what was going to happen and was attacked then too. Is it not interesting how all those things I mentioned actually happened.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Struck a nerve, hey?
  
  You implied that Obama will cut veteran's healthcare and I saying that's not true because all cuts are subject to negotiation.
  
  That's the truth that sets me free.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Lets just hope it doesn't set vets and their families free of much needed benefits.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You mean like this?:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBOeQYzQFl8
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  From the VA site
  
  "One of the most common myths revolves around eligibility for health care at VA. Many think that you have to first establish a disability rating before you can start to make appointments, see doctors and receive medication. That is not the case. If you served in the military, even during peace time, and were honorably discharged, you likely qualify for VA care. Even if you don’t meet those requirements, special circumstances might apply, like Vietnam service, exposure to Agent Orange and household income. The best way to find out if you qualify is to submit an application for health benefits. You can fill one out online or at a VA Medical Center. If you are an Iraq or Afghanistan Veteran, there are special combat Veteran benefits from VA, like temporary access to dental care and guaranteed access to Priority 6 for five years (unless you are eligible for a higher priority group)"
  
  http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/586/bus … alth-care/
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Did not allow the Catholic Church to run rough-shod over my rights as a citizen and a human being!
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  gogogoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When did it become your right to have someone else pay for your contraceptives.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's an insurance plan...we all pay into them.
  What gives the Catholic church the right to take contraceptives away from me?
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maxoxam41posted 13 years ago
A friend of mine had his health care service revoked before Obama, he recovered it thanks to Obama care.
That we agree upon it or not, Obama gave a better image of America than Bush, even if his motivations and objectives are more dictated by corporations!
Since his administration, I understood that being president doesn't imply being omnipotent. However he should have put more pressure on banks, politicians, on the FED...
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Shame he never said that
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't believe Obama said this either but . . .
  
  Hard work is a value . . . but, under Obama, 11.5 million more people are on welfare making this president the Welfare President.
  
  We ARE all in this together until the other person decides it's easier to sit on their ass and let me pay the way for both he and I.
  
  I am not my brother's and sister's keeper nor do I think most of them want me to be. Those that do need to get up off their lazy asses and take care of themselves. I have enough to take care of without having someone else sticking their hand in my pocket.
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  Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He's gotta say that after all the times he's called Americans lazy, scared, stupid, soft, arrogant, etc..
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hello: What? Links please.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ULxVliIj0E
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OVNPcr8uyg
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So you and Longhunter agree with Obama—why didn't you say so? WE all need to be less lazy and soft and work "together" to make America great again.
  
  The operative words being "WE" & "together" as opposed to what you were implying.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The operative word is "work", Wizard.
  
  We have too many in this country who won't work even in the best of economies as the liberals have made it far too easy to sit back and collect welfare all their lives. That includes the Welfare President, Barack Hussein Obama.
  
  www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk
  
  www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0d-pgdCvTc
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Racism is an ugly thing.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  While I haven't mentioned race at all, it is you that brings it up. Obviously, it is you, not I, that thinks in those terms, LMC.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Really? I have never heard the terms welfare president or food stamp president before...
  
  Even though....more people were on foodstamps under W.
  
  Even though corporate welfare was rampant then.
  
  I'll take your word for it,because I don't see that in you....some others of your ilk though...no way. I KNOW it's racism.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Typical making something out of nothing. Welfare and food stamp are not racial statements
  
  "It’s true that the most recent figures from the Department of Agriculture’s Food and Nutrition Service (provided to Factcheck.org/USA Today) show that a record number of people—some 46.2 million—are enrolled in the program."
  
  Record means the most, which is under Obama. Most, means more than Bush.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Agree with Obama, do not think so
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with everything he said!!
  He's talking about all of us as a country..and it's true!
  We got materialistic and complacent, letting everything be made in China, as long as it was cheap.
  Drive-through banking, drive-through eating, throw-away society.
  ALL of us.
  
  Now,compare that to thr R's--who blame it all on poor people. Resurrecting Reagan's "welfare Queen"..calling people snobby for wanting their kids to have college educations....insinuating that women are sl*ts for liking sex...(I can't outright spell the word...I'm a liberal, I'd be banned. Unlike your R friend Cassie)
  
  Obama is right,and you are wrong, IMO. Together we sink or fall, or as another great Dem said: A rising tide should lift ALL boats!
  
  Yours lifts the top 0.01% only.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Who were on "their asses" and in whose Administration? Who caused all of the job losses in America that forced hardworking people on welfare."
  
  "We ARE all in this together until the other person decides it's easier to sit on their ass and let me pay the way for both he and I."
  
  It all sounds like convenient amnesia and overt bigotry, LH; you do yourself dishonor and shame as an American and as a Christian.
  
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A person that needs help and seeks a hand up is not the problem, Wizard.
  
  Part of the problem in this society is it has created a group of people that expect a hand out as a way of life. This problem has become a generational problem thanks to the"Ahhh, poor baby" attitude of the liberals in this country. It's their way of buying votes and keeping the power they love by keeping the poor under their thumb.
  
  I have NO PROBLEM helping those seeking a hand UP, Wizard. If someone is seeking a hand OUT, this CHRISTIAN, CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN says, "Keep looking elsewhere."
  
  Shall I give them your contact information? With all I have going on right now, my "Give a Damn" is broken.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If society has created the problem, it can D well fix it!
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's the Dems in our society that have created the problem, LMC.
  
  "This problem has become a generational problem thanks to the"Ahhh, poor baby" attitude of the liberals in this country. It's their way of buying votes and keeping the power they love by keeping the poor under their thumb."
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Really? I wouldn't be poor if my job paid more...whose fault is that?
  
  Actually---I was doing just fine with my salary until about 2003 or so....cost of living went sky-high. Whose fault is that?
  
  Can't keep up with bills, yet I keep reading how the ceo's make millions a year....corrolation?
  
  No way do you get to blame this on poor people.
  
  You Reaganites take the cake.
  
  Give-it-all away to your upper echelons, and blame the ones who are left with the aftermath of that plunder.
  
  THEN blame the guy who comes along and makes it better! Or is trying to, alongside a bunch of creeps who do not care about America!
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMC,
  
  Cost of living has been an issue since the sixties. It has been growing at a strong pace and salaries have never kept up. That is why we went from 1 person working to two persons working. They needed the income, now we have entered it takes 3 salaries. Dishonesty in Washington and in the business sector are responsible for driving prices higher
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your problem, Longhunter, is petty resentment fueled by prejudice. You conveniently attribute laziness and deceit to the working poor while you ignore the lazy and overpaid "job-creators" on Wall Street, Banksters and Multi-corporate tax-evaders who are corrupt and exploit all of us.
  
  Wake up to your own bias . . .
  
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have not mentioned race but yet you do and you say I'm prejudice. Really?
  
  I don't care what color a person is, if they can work they should make every effort to get off welfare. Unfortunately, the liberals of our government and society have made it far too easy to do nothing while riding on the backs of others.
  
  By all indication, you've worked your butt off to get where you are as have I. The difference is, where we'll both help those who need it, I refuse to perpetuate the problems in our society by helping those who refuse to help themselves.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Long,
  
  that is the only argument the Dems fall on for the facts are against them on every issue. So instead of saying this is not working, they just scream racism.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Wow...remember the story in the Good Book, Cain and Able? Listen to Cain:

"Don't ask me about my brother, I'm not responsible for him. I take care of my own affairs and my brother takes care of his. I owe no allegiance to him. We have no ties that bind."

re-encarnation?

Thank God Obama is there...otherwise all those people who lost jobs under Bush would be on the streets!

Once we get the Baggers out of Congress, we will be able to do what Obama wanted to do in the first place.

Then you will see progress.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I do watch over my BROTHER, LMC, as he does me. We are blood, family.
  
  You are not my responsibility any more than I am yours.
  
  Each person's happiness is their own responsibility and I have enough to take care of of my own.
  
  "Then you will see progress."
  
  Yeah, if you like living in the USSR of 40 years ago.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?"
  
  It's no big deal to love those you're "supposed" to love. Love your enemies, that's what it says!
  
  And, I like living in the here and now, not 1950-------->back to the middle ages!
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "And, I like living in the here and now, not 1950"
  
  If you support Obama, 1950s USSR is right where you long to be, LMC.
  
  I don't have enemies, just those I refuse to help as they refuse to help themselves.
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Perspycaciousposted 13 years ago
He has given me learning in Public Speaking as I listen to and appreciate his oratory. When, however, it comes to not just talking the talk but walking the walk, I find him lacking in leadership that gets things done (even with a Senate supposedly in his pocket.)
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A "senate in his pocket" — now that's a stretch, especially after Sen. Snow's decision yesterday to leave the senate because of the Republican attitude in Congress "of my way or the highway."
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Harry Reid is so far down in Obama's hip pocket he can tell what the man had for dinner last night when he farts.
  
  Yes, Harry Reid's Senate is in Obama's pocket.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Errrr, they're Democrats.
  
  Whose pocket would you say Blunt is in?
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Dems had 2 years of complete control to do whatever they wanted. The Repubs could not stop them. As for Reid the obstructionist, their are over 2700 bill in the Senate right now, Reid has tabled over 2000 of them. Reid does everything Obama tells him, Reid the Puppet
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeh, but hate is easier than love. That's why none of these Christians actually follow his commands.
  
  I see love in Obama.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Then I suggest a vision exam quick!!!!!!
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Righty's:
  "So instead of saying this is not working, they just laugh at people"
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, LMC.
  
  Barack Hussein Obama as president is not working.
  
  I stated what's not working. Are you happy now?
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He's working fine for me.
  
  That OK with you?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not when he's doing all he can to change this country into the Socialist States of America.
  
  Does that mean you're a Socialist as well, LMC?
  
  I like what the NY subway ad says: GO TO HELL BARACK
  
  ANYBODY BUT THAT DAMN OBAMA 2012!!!!
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, I'm a Democrat.
  
  Oh, and so is Obama...did he say he was a Socialist? Don't think so. His policies don't fit that label either. He's quite the Capitalist actually...but he has a heart.
  
  Are you a fascist?
  
  Because remember...when fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross...is that you?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you're an Obama Dem, you're a Socialist just as he's a Socialist. Think Redistribution of Wealth.
  
  As for his heart, it's filled with hatred for his country. You like Obama and his policies. You two have a lot in common. Do you hate your country as much as Obama does?
  
  What I like is good ole American Constitutional FREEDOM and want to keep it. When fascism comes to this country, I'll fight it. Right now, I'm busy doing what I can to stop Obama's Socialism.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well since the large majority of the country voted for Obama then obviously most Americans are socialists, so I suggest we start changing over right now we are democratic right? Thanks for clarifying that longhunter
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nice try, Jo sak.
  
  Fortunately, the American people have a way of correcting their mistakes and Obama was one big ass mistake. I know a lot of people who dislike Obama, some with complete and utter disdain. I also know a lot who voted for him, have seen their mistake and will not vote for him again.
  
  Clarification will come this November and I have a feeling you're going to get a big surprise. Get your anti-depressants ready, Josak.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well the polls have him winning so good luck, I won't be depressed if he loses, I think it would be good if he did, why? Because then we will see the Republicans screw it up again as usual like Bush did (cos really all the GOP candidates are useless this year) then people will remember what its like, I hope they stay in for many terms because the suffering now will be worth it down the line and the starving people who lost their jobs and have had their welfare cut and the people whose children and spouses and friends die without the medical the Rs will take away and the gay people who will be demonized and the women who will feel what its like to live in the 50s again (if its Santorum anyway) none of them will ever vote Republican again nor will their children and the Republicans will be properly considered the party only for the very rich. In the meantime I will somewhat selfishly move back to Argentina (I am a citizen) the Argentine economy has never been better and its one of the fastest growing in the world (It has a socialist government which got 76% of the vote last election a few months ago with the nearest competition getting 14%) so no I hope one of your clowns gets in but really I doubt they will.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Bye LongHunter...you are too far out there to even meet 1/4 of the way. Have fun in your delusions.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, please don't go, LMC. Stay and answer my questions unless, of course, what I wrote hit too close to home and you're having trouble admitting it.
  
  Question avoidance? Truth avoidance? Both?
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No use beating your head against a brick wall. Plus--I'm tired of being personally insulted all the time.
  
  I'll leave you with this: I don't hate Ameria, nor do I hate Jews.
  Repeatedly being accused of because I don't share your views.
  
  You're too narrow-minded for me.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He is out there, have you looked in the mirror. You have not quoted one correct fact here anywhere, and when you are shown the facts, you disappear. I have not seen him call you names either. Just admit he is right and you cannot answer
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Every time I say something positive about Obama, I'm asked if I hate America. When I say something negative about Israel, I'm told that I hate Jews. Meanwhile, he says Go to hell Barack.....I'm done.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMC,
  
  If Obama is working so good for you, you must be rolling in it, Life must be great, new home, new car, high paying job with all the benefits paid for. So why do you complain on these forums all day long
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm more worried about America as a whole than my own personal state. That was ruined years ago...and I wish Obama would end ALL tax cuts. Even the $400 he gave to people like me.
  
  But, as we know....your guys want to INCREASE tax cuts for themselves....I'd say I have a right to complain about them.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMC,
  
  I believe you will get your wish if Obama get reelected which looks likely to happen. Just remember when you start taking home about 20 to 25% less in pay I will be there to say told you so.
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Onusonusposted 13 years ago
Some people think that hope and change meant that things would get better, but the facts speak about a different kind of change in the form of a downward spiral.

http://www.mrconservative.com/2012/02/2 … tatistics/
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Marquisposted 13 years ago
More people have gone to the welfare lines under President Obama than former President Bush. The Left, since they love expansion of government, will always be seen as the "nanny state." So food stamp president fits President Obama just fine, especially when he is a Left Wing President trying to expand the government. Each time he does this, people lose freedom.

There is no racism here.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When did all the jobs go, making welfare the only option besides moving to a sidewalk?
  
  hint: 2000-2008.
  
  who has been blocking all attempts at job-creating and innovative new technologies?
  
  GOP.
  
  Put the blame where it is due.
  
  It took 8 long horrible years....30+ if we're truly counting, to bring America to her knees....you want miracles? Pray that the bagger mentality is gone forever!
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  Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  More like entitlement spending. Say hello to the United States of Greece. Thanks Democrats.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMC,
  
  Repubs Block, under which President did the stock market close at a record high and it has never been back there? And who had the highest revenues in US history? Give you a hint, it was NOT Obama
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Look---you may not have lived throguh 2000-2008...I did!
  
  I'm awake and conscious.
  
  I do not ever want to go back there....ever.
  
  Those goons and demons are lucky to be walking around free.
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  jngposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Will people be in favor of Romney's plan to raise the age for medicare to 68? I don't get how he's going to eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax, the death tax (that's what some call it), lower corporate to 25% and cut taxes across the board by 20%? Where is the revenue to decrease the deficit? I saw a graph showing that stock markets have been higher under Democratic presidents.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We don't need gvt jng. Their corporate buds can take over.
  
  Their plan has been for decades to starve the beast.
  
  No taxes, corporate services, high cost, big fees.
  
  Low pay, no union support.
  
  3rd world!
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  JNG,
  
  Look at the chart again, Who was President when the market closed at its all time high.
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  jngposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi AV, I'm not sure about an all time high--I think you're referring to Bush #2 but here is the link for the CNN article: http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/21/markets … demsvreps/
  
  This is from the article: "Democrats are seen as being pro-regulatory, and more willing to enact laws against Wall Street and laws against CEOs," said Don Luskin, chief investment officer at Trend Macrolytics.
  
  But here's Wall Street's strange little irony -- studies show the stock market performs better and tends to be less volatile when Democrats are in power.
  
  Hope you're better, I didn't mean to say something negative about you using the emergency room before, I was just saying it because so many people have no choice without health insurance.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  JNG,
  
  Thanks for the link to the article. Since they cite going back 72 years it will take me a little time to research and break it down to see if they are accurate. I do know the best the market ever did under a Dem President was Clinton and even then it had a few mini crashes but recovered.
  
  You did not say anything negative about me, and you are right. Without health insurance most have no choice but to go to an emergency room if they do not have a local clinic to go to. Unfortunately, with all the changes in healthcare due to Obamacare, even the ERs are cutting back on care. Not long ago it did not matter why you ended up in the ER, they took care of you. Today, they only want to get you stable and get you out the door. I have been working hard(as hard as I can for where I am) to get my healthcare initiative brought to committee in the House. While I have several Representatives that are interested, being an election year no one will act on it. So hopefully after the elections progress can be made.
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
This is a ridiculous waste of time and effort. People who aren't even conscious of their own ignorance or intolerance are not going to understand or remotely appreciate the differences or distinctions when it comes to words like "bigotry, prejudice resentments, anger and hatred."

Nor, obviously, are they aware of psychological terms like projection or introjection, so it's unlikely that the'll ever understand themselves, let alone someone who challenges their unawareness in hopes they'll enlighten themselves.

Yeah I know, I sound like an "arrogant liberal with a bleeding heart," but I'm NOT—I'm just calling out a bunch of folks with prejudice, that is to say people who prejudge others based on their own bias or bigotry—which doesn't always have to be about racism.

If you want to believe the kind of petty ignorant crap you're spewing then fine it's a free country—just don't expect not to be called on your tribal behaviors and your Neolithic belief systems!
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Longhunterposted 13 years ago
This is a ridiculous waste of time and effort. People who aren't even conscious of their own ignorance and intolerance are not going to understand or remotely appreciate the differences or distinctions when it comes to labeling everyone that disagrees with them as racist.

Racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Racist has become one of those little catch labels all liberals use to try to shut someone up that disagrees with them. They like to throw around words like "bigotry," "prejudice," "resentments," "anger," and "hatred."

A difference of opinion is just that. There's nothing bigoted, prejudicial, resentful, angry, or hateful in believing that people who are capable should get off their lazy ass and get a job rather than living off the back of others.

McDonald's is always hiring.
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
The Koch Brother's Echo Chamber with all of their sheep baaa-ing in obedience . . .

http://youtu.be/WFymBUsoNWY
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks!
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They're buttwipes.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Please already with the Koch Brothers. Dems have Soros, Buffet, Hollywood, unions. Get over it. Both sides are horrible holding out their hands.
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What was that he did for #5?
  
  Oh, yeah. I remember. He pissed away $525 million on Solyndra.
  
  This should be investigated and, if it's found Obama was involved in wrong doing, he should be impeached. FINALLY.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Wrong!
  Presidents are still citizens, and are allowed to put a word in for businesses they believe in...other wise Cheney would long be in prison for his work setting our energy policy in a private room with oil companies!
  
  Not to mention Blackwater and Haliburton and Bechtel.
  
  Bechtel was good buds with Gvr Weld here in Mass when the Big Dig was commissioned...
  No one threatened to impeach him.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMC, I don't throw the word 'impeachment' around just for the hell of it. I didn't think Clinton should have been impeached as most of the country didn't want it. At least that's the sense I got at the time.
  
  Solyndra should be investigated and, if it's found Obama was involved in wrong doing, he should be impeached. It's just that simple.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's nothing compared to an unnecessary war in Iraq for Bush cronies and Haliburton profiteers!
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't agree with us going into Iraq either, Wizard, but I think you're comparing apples and oranges on this one.
  
  Side Note: Do you work in Photoshop professionally or more of as a hobby?
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You were the one talking about "pissing away money," LH—so it's apples & apples, my friend.
  
  {Just a hobby}
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree Bush spent like a drunken sailor but over spending and criminal activity are two different things, Wizard.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Criminal activity?"
  
  Now there's a typical reactionary stretch that's so predictable from your side. When you have no other ideas and hate the Democratic president as much as you do, you drum up another witch hunt—you can call it, "White Water II."
  
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, Wizard, as I stated earlier, we should investigate it. Also, I don't hate anyone. I'll admit I don't like Obama because I think he's a horrible president but I don't hate him.
  
  As for Whitewater, it was about as stupid as the whole Scooter Libby prosecution. Now there was a Witch Hunt.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My "you" in that post was meant in the plural/party sense, not you personally, LH.
  
  And if Libby was innocent why didn't Bush pardon him? Compared to Whitewater that is apples and oranges.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I got the feeling there was some bad blood between Bush and Cheney over the whole thing and that's why he didn't pardon him. Just my guess.
  
  Hell, I didn't think they should have gone after Clinton about Lewinsky. Of course, if I was married to Hillary, I probably would have strayed as well.
  
  I can tell you this. If I was the POTUS, I would have gone after someone a hell of a lot better looking than Monica.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey LH, we're in accord on a few things once again, except that I respect Hillary and I think she's doing a heckova job as SOS.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree that Hillary is a good SOS. Probably wouldn't have been as radical as Obama as president. I respect her as well. I just wouldn't want to be married to her. She reminds me a lot of my ex-wife. (Yep, there's that cold chill I get at the mention of the ice princess.)
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL—as Bill would say: "I feel your pain!"
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hillary would have been a better President
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It wasn't in the cards. Errr....she didn't have all the cards. Notably one in particular.
  
  But she would've probably been just as bad a President! It only took disappointment at losing the election nomination to turn her from Democrat to open Progressive.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not the facts, go read the revenues reports from the CBO and GAO
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Long,
  
  He copies and pastes
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not everything, AV. I've been a graphic designer and art director for 26 years. Some of it has some good technique and I can only assume Wizard is doing it, not just copying and pasting..
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Here's an interesting doc about JUST electric subsidies!! Then there's oil, coal, gas,timber,cigarette, etc etc etc.....to focus on Solyndra is PURELY POLITICAL.
  
  http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08102.pdf
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Long,
  
  The figure of all money lost on failed green energy is well over 1 trillion dollars
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  Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  #1) affordable healthcare? What a joke! the government is borrowing 47 cents for every 52 cents they bring in. The government is spending money like a bunch of drunken sailors.
  How in anybody's diluted mind could that possibly be considered affordable?
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Pcunixposted 13 years ago
From Alan Grayson

"The rich are incentivized by tax cuts, while the poor are incentivized by lower wages, no benefits, an end to the minimum wage, and unemployment."

Makes sense. Vote GOP! Help incentivize the poor!
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly. How much more incentive do you need???
  
  Love Grayson...hope he is re-elected.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
It was nothing at all. In fact...I LIKE new and innovative ideas! After all...how much do we pay farmers NOT to grow?
Oil Gas Timber Cigarette,etc etc etc...Here's Solyndra:

"Solyndra has engineered, built and shipped an absolutely innovative solar product. The firm continues to win white-roof designs and has billions of dollars in backlog.

Nothing like the Solyndra design has ever been built before in silicon or CIGS. The firm asserts that their cylindrical tubes have the promise of lowering balance-of-system costs and making installation faster and easier. In fact, balance-of-system cost reduction was the factor cited by Rockport Capital as their reason for investing in the company, according to a partner I spoke with at the VC firm."

http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/ … ra-affair/

Sounds like a great idea.
Didn't work.....Cigarettes kill. Boehner gave out checks from the cig companies ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE!!

Was he impeached?

No--he's entitled.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Like I said, LMC, it should be investigated and proceed from there.
  
  I think any politician that's done something criminal should be investigated the prosecuted if the evidence is there. Do you agree or are you hell bent on protecting your president Obama no matter what?
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readytoescapeposted 13 years ago
Let see, To address the OP From An American Working Man's Perspective

I was gainfully employed for 30+ yrs until two days after his inauguration, but I was introduced to the joys of Unemployment benefits. My income went from 70K+ per yr to well under the poverty level. I guess I needed a dose of reality.

The UE Benefits he provided by special legislation were so woefully inadequate that I was fortunate to be reintroduced my savings I had not seen for years. I was provided the advantage of redistributing my wealth to others so I can feel good about myself.

I am also so happy that his agenda, taxation theories and predatory regulation policies woke the giants of industry and all my retirement investments dwindled to an affordable taxation level.

He gleefully assisted in my ability to ignore mortgage payments, to which I was introduced to the Banks lawyers. Lawyers that provided his promise of re-education and retraining, I learned it so well in fact, I got the foreclosure action dismissed. Thank you for the stress and the new Health care program that will ignore my stress induced heart attack.

I am also grateful that I no longer have to drive to work, because there is no way I could have afforded the fuel expense, plus I save 3 hours of worthless commuting time each day. Thank you for helping me Go Green and giving me time to write for a wealth and riches here at Hubpages.

I am so appreciative to you and your wife for telling us how to eat, so we can spend $80.00 buying organic tomatoes instead of getting a 99 cent McBurger.

Sorry I have to stop now, tomatoes just don’t provide enough energy to continue typi
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Longhunterposted 13 years ago
LMC wrote: "No use beating your head against a brick wall. Pus--I'm tired of being personally insulted all the time.

I'll leave you with this: I don't hate Ameria, nor do I hate Jews.
Both being repeatedly accused of because I don't share your views.

You're too narrow-minded for me.

I haven't personally insulted you. I asked you a question.

Do you hate your country as much as Obama does? Fine, you say you don't but I firmly believe Obama does.

I didn't mention Jews. And, if you're referring to the past, it was you that called me a Nazi. The past is the past, LMC. Leave it there. I have.

narrow-minded? Why? Because I refuse to drink the Obama Kool-Aid and think he's the worst president in my lifetime if not that of the country? Because I won't agree with you and bow to the likes of Obama?

Oh, I get it. It's your way or the highway. Come on, LMC. What are going to do, pout? Take your marbles and leave?

Sounds pretty childish to me. I guess this is what Liberals do when they can't take the heat and others won't agree with everything they say.

Very telling, LMC. Very telling.
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Druid Dudeposted 13 years ago
At least I don't have to worry about where my money goes...it's all gone. I've got change, though.
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Longhunterposted 13 years ago
LMC wrote: "Meanwhile, he says Go to hell Barack..."

American View didn't say that, LMC. Neither did I. It was on an ad on the D.C. subway. I just happen to agree with it which I'm still allowed to do in this country.

http://transportationnation.org/2012/03 … bjections/

I haven't mentioned Jews to you in months, not since you called me a Nazi. Guilty conscious, maybe?

I write that I want to see Obama investigated on Solyndra, you loose your mind but you wanted to see Bush and Cheney arrested and hung on the public square without a trail. HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD, LMC!!!!

Not everyone on here will agree with you. They don't all agree with me and I certainly don't expect nor want them to.

I don't agree with you and you run.

I ask a question and you run.

All I can say is "TYPICAL LIBERAL." I honestly didn't think you were typical. Obviously, I was wrong.

Have a good weekend, LMC.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Long,
  
  I like LMC because she is feisty and passionate. She is a typical liberal that believes the hype the left spews and she talks it as gospel. Dems have become King at changing the subject when they are wrong, kicking the can down the road because they want to avoid dealing with the issues. Because the Repubs want to put the fiscal house in order and the Dems want to keep on spending, the Dems call the Repubs obstructionists. If you disagree with a Dem, they call you a Nazi or a racist. What the Dems don't realize is that the American people are getting tired of it, so are members of their own party. That is one reason the independent voter pool is getting larger.
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  Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, what the American people are tiring of is GOP insanity.
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  Perspycaciousposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Both sides are guity of "inaction" more than "insanity". The real "insanity" may come, if we the voters reelect the "do nothingers" of both parties top to bottom and somehow expect someone or more of them to lead us out of the mess we are mired in!
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Please give examples of Dem's inaction these past 3 years.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How about the over 2000 bills Reid and the Dems have tabled.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Come off it AV, the "Contract With America" thugs started this war and you may not be willing to admit it, but the fact is right-wingers have already admitted they want to destroy all opposition to their agenda by blocking anything that the Democrats try to pass.
  
  Stop the lies and phony talking points. Here is a perfect example of your side's relentless attack on democracy . . .
  
  http://www.kmtv.com/multimedia/videos/? … 2387635001
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you kidding me?" you are trying to show a total propaganda video on voter registration as you argument on Contract with America? Who is not being accurate? Please.
  
  Currently the Senate has 2,413 bills, 43 Joint Resolutions, 35 Concurrent Resolutions, 237 Resolutions before it. The House has 2628 Bills, 73 Joint Resolutions, 66 Concurrent Resolutions, 371 Resolutions before it. If they passed 6 bills per day it would take 2 years to go through all of them without any new legislation getting added to the list. Look it up. Library of Congress
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Wiz,
  
  I am not a Repub by the way, I am an independent.
  
  I am curious though. You have a lot of attacks and hate speech for the right, yet you never answered the question put forward by the thread.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't believe my ridicule and cynical satire of reactionaries can qualify as "hate"-based. I recognize true-believers when I see them and try not to judge them—no more than any other delusional fools who just think that they think.
  
  Btw, AV, you fit very well in that delusional category, though you don't seem a fool. We all want to believe that we see the world accurately even when it's distorted by our desires. I don't desire money, success or war—which puts me at odds with most of GOP-Tea Party's obsessions —especially the clown-candidates the're now running. I suspect the true-beliefs of this medieval tribe/gang all have to do with fear and hence a never-ending desperation for security and control.
  
  Wrt Obama, on the whole, he cheers me up. He's bright, hard-working, has a nice young family and he's still capable of learning how to be a great President—which is not to say he hasn't disappointed me at times. I found myself consistently disheartened every morning of the GWB Years. He let his pack-dogs destroy any trust Americans had in our democratic system—they raped it and present day politics has became a street-fight fueled by greed and media propaganda.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  More people that vote Dem have left the party than people who have left the Repub party. The gainer is the Independent vote.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"Because the Repubs want to put the fiscal house in order".

Thanks for the laugh.

Filibustering and blocking legislation because the president proposes it...even if it was THEIR idea to begin with: That is GOP idea of work. Paid to obstruct, Waaaa Waaaa Waaaaaa.

And since I've disagreed with you folks, I've been called a socialist,communist, Nazi, America-Hater,anti-America, lazy bum, dirty filthy hippie, terror-supporter and Jew-Hating anti-semite.

Yes, we are sick of it allright.

Ask Snow how she feels about your new extreme wing......hounded her out of office!
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
It will make no difference at all if Obama is elected again and we still have GOP house and senate.

This is where we need to vote Dems in! WE need to help Obama in this way.

Because I can already see it now: 4 more years of this ludicrous baby-crap while they groom someone for 2016.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not to state the obvious, but the Dems control and are in the majority of the Senate. Hence why nothing gets done because they block everything. It stalls in the Senate.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's not obvious, in fact, it's not true!
  
  They need a 60 vote majority to pass anything, and they don't have it.
  
  When they did have it, the R's used the filibuster to block everything. That was the stated goal of the GOP: say no to everything Obama, and as Gingrich wrote in a leaked memo, then the R's will come in in 2010 as the "saviors".
  
  The only reason they got healthcare and stimulus was because of Snow and Collins, and even then, it had to be watered down, and monies moved from job creating to tax cuts.
  Same health system, no public option. This is the compromise Obama has done with this crowd, and still they are ingrates and bullies.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMC,
  
  You really need to get your facts right. Snow tried to work with Dems on it but was abstructed. Snow and Collins both voted against it.
  
  I think you also need to see who is the majority on the Senate. It is the Dems being led by Harry Reid as Majority leader. THAT IS THE FACT!!
  
  Another lesson, when one side has the 60 votes, that is call a filibusterer PROOF Senate, you know like the one the Dems had the first two years. That means no matter what, the opposition CANNOT stop or filibuster the other side.
  
  One more, bills pass with a simple majority unless there is a vote ahead of time to demand a 60 vote majority. If a 60 vote rule is not passed and all that is needed is a simple majority, then that is when the opposition filibusters. BTW, the Dems are the kings of filibusters and "nuclear option".
  
  Here is just one article on one vote about what China was doing to our currency and the Dems did not want to vote on it. Wonder why the Dems would allow Chins to destroy our currency?
  
  "In a shocking development Thursday evening, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) triggered a rarely used procedural option informally called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.
  
  Reid and 50 members of his caucus voted to change Senate rules unilaterally to prevent Republicans from forcing votes on uncomfortable amendments after the chamber has voted to move to final passage of a bill.
  
  The Democratic leader had become fed up with Republican demands for votes on motions" (SOURCE link below)
  
  "Reid largely achieved his record in 2009, not 2010. In the first year of the session, Reid won 35 of 39 — a stunning 90 percent — of his attempts to close debate, or invoke cloture, on a variety of measures and nominations"
  
  From Wikipedia:
  
  "In the United States Senate, rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn"[36] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII. According to the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), changes to Senate rules could be achieved by a simple majority. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to end debate.[36] Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the filibuster could be changed by majority vote, using the so-called nuclear option, also sometimes called the constitutional option by proponents. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time. In RECENT YEARS the MAJORITY has preferred to avoid filibusters by moving to other business when a filibuster is threatened and attempts to achieve cloture have failed."
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster#United_States
  
  http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1861 … ilibusters
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Awesome! Good laugh!!
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
GOP bills are poison. Meant to benefit entities like the Koch Bros and ALEC, NOT the American people.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/22/opinion/t … index.html
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
I'm not interested in all these go-arounds to show how wonderful your GOP is.

I know what they did. I know what they stand for. I know the harm they do to my country. That's all there is to it, no matter how many articles you cite.

And you feel the same way about the Dems, don't you?

This is a war for America...we all have to choose sides!

I choose Obama and the Democrats.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I choose freedom, honesty, truth, and EVERYTHING the United States Constitution stands for.
  
  I choose anybody, and I do mean ANYBODY, but Obama.
  
  While unlike you, I'm not advocating war, I choose the American side, the same side as our founding fathers. I do not choose the side of men like men like Stalin, Marx and Obama.
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FPackposted 13 years ago
I like the HealthCare reform act... somewhat....
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, if we can get more Dems elected, it can be tweaked the way it was meant to be.
  ...A public option, for example! HAD to be removed, for "compromise"...
  
  You see the term..."Option"? Can't even have that!!
  
  "Choice"......not allowed!
  
  Get these controlling goons out!
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your views are typical of the left and why they obstruct everything
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"I choose anybody, and I do mean ANYBODY, but Obama."

That is war.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No LMC,
  
  To choose anyone except Obama is not war. Your statements are what creates wars. You said:
  
  "You see the term..."Option"? Can't even have that!!
  
  "Choice"......not allowed! "
  
  No choice allowed? Really? This country is not a dictatorship, maybe you want one, but the rest of us do not and will fight it.
  
  I bet Hillary regrets not putting her hat in the ring for 2012, not only would she have won the Democratic nomination, but I believe she would even have been elected President.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The public option is off the table.
  
  The R's want to make abortion illegal...ergo no choice.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just keep changing the subject
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That IS the subject!
  
  I want a real democratic agenda, like I voted for.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  While there are a few that have been brainwashed into thinking they are better off under the idiot, Barack Hussein Obama, there are millions of Americans who aren't better off and it's due to their president's inability to walk and chew gum at the same time much less lead a country.
  
  You didn't vote for "a real democratic agenda", LMC. You voted for Obama's Socialist agenda and you can't stand it that Americans are standing up and saying enough is enough.
  
  Not all Americans will be led around by a nose ring like some have chosen to let happen. We prefer freedom over slavery to a government that's forgotten its place in our society.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just replying to the original question, he has given me free healthcare, ended a war I believed unnecessary (thus bringing a very close friend and a relative back home where they should be) and he has worked to help those that actually need help around me. Actually through the first one he has saved a friends life so I for one think he has done plenty of positive things in a very tough and negative time.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Also, he's apparently avoided what could have been very deep recession. He would have accomplished more but for the Tea Party majority in the House of Representatives.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A recession brought on, in part, by his buddies, Frank and Dodd.
  
  I realize some people just will never learn no matter how wrong they are and leave it at that.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But mainly brought about our last conservative president, a man known around the world for his idiocy...
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, Josak, but you're wrong once again. Bush tried to warn the Dem-led Congress about Fanny and Freddie 14 times but they wouldn't listen.
  
  www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKpzmojjfU
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqxN1XB … re=related
  
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= … KSoiNbnQY0
  
  Lord knows we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of the Lies of the Left. Would we, Josak?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm glad your friend was saved, Josak. Now, I only wonder how many people die because of the same if its allowed to be fully implemented. Perhaps someone equally close or even more so to you or I. I wonder if you'll be just as supportive when that happens.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I would love you to explain to me how free healthcare will kill my friends, before you continue be aware I am a citizen of Australia and Argentina both of which have free healthcare... Now tell me. I would also love to see you explain to his kids how it would be better for everyone if their father died and to his widow how it would be better to go on welfare and attempt to raise three kids on government benefit...
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, my bad, Josak. I thought I was speaking to an American.
  
  Enough said.
  
  Have a good day.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am an American I have other citizenship's too there is no contradiction, I did not have the fortune to be born here but my Mother was American and so am I by citizenship and there is where I live. Still waiting to hear how free healthcare will kill my friends and how you feel about explaining to kids how their father needs to die for your political agenda. No answer? wouldn't be trying to dodge the question would you?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's nice, Josak.
  
  I'm hoping for an honest answer.
  
  Was the free health care you are referring to provided in the U.S. or another country?
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  In the US though I have seen similar elsewhere though of course in other countries it's just an assumed thing and no one blinks an eye. Regardless I am not sure how it matters free healthcare is free healthcare and a life saved is a life saved regardless of where you live. Still not answering the question I see...
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The problem is you're comparing apples to oranges.
  
  I'm glad your friend is okay but, since this was in a different country, your question is disregarded.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ummm I made it clear it did happen in the USA... So no it's not apples and oranges. Still no answer I see... How surprising.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yup...his agenda is my agenda.....and it has been spat upon left and right, as if we don't have a right to exist!
  
  Well, that horse has left the barn.....from now on no holds barred I guess.
  
  But on a brighter note, I geuss it's Ok to call any Repub daughter a sl*t, and the Mrs. a piece of trash.
  
  *oh joy*
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "That is war."
  
  Oh, now I'm scared. NOT!!!
  
  LMC, you've lost it. That's not war. It's my opinion.
  
  I don't like Obama,LMC, and, you know what, I'm allowed to have my opinion whether you like it or not. I REALLY don't care if you like it or not.
  
  You've said some absolutely horrible things about people I and others here on HP supported and you, in your double-standard, narrow-minded way of thinking, think we're suppose to just sit back and not say anything. Then you get pissed when I quote an ad that was on the D.C. Subway and say I agree with it.
  
  I'll say it again. I choose anybody, and I do mean ANYBODY, but Obama.
  
  Obviously, that pisses you off. GREAT!!! SWEET!!! I DON"T CARE!!! You can get mad at me all you want. Hell, it's your blood pressure but I'm certainly not going to change my opinion because someone like you gets pissed.
  
  Get over or not. My "Give a Damn" is busted as far as you are concerned.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Hillary is alleged to have created Fast and Furius...no way is she going anywhere.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh Please... She had nothing to do with it, Holder may not have been the person who thought of it, but he approved it and knew it. The real question is did Obama know and I believe he was briefed on it but did not know the details
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Google it and make up your own mind. Don't tell me oh please.....it's there in black and white.
  You can choose to believe it or not.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As you say, show your sources. Again, cite real sources, not someones opinion, blog, or a talking point
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Don't hold your breath, AV.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Google: was Hillary involved in Fast and Furious?
  
  See for yourself if you believe it. It's RW'ers who are saying it. Your boys.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just as you and I suspected, AV. She's got nothin'. No surprise there.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your fingers broke?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're the one that brought up. You prove it.
  
  AGAIN, you got nothin' but that is of little surprise.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  1-10 of 7,650,000 results....have fun.
  
  Oh, there are pages there from one I've seen someone use here to bash Obama...americanthinker, and also GOA: Gun Owners of America....
  
  Go for it. It doesn't interest me. I just thought you should know that Issa is all over it, so Hil won't be running anytime soon. As if she even wants to.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It doesn't interest you but you brought it up.
  
  Are you feeling okay? It sure doesn't seem that way.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, you brought the smear up. Prove it. Show me an actual report form the government or law enforcement officials, or DOJ, somewhere credible. If it does not matter, you would not bring it up
  
  I could google area 51 too, does not prove there are any aliens there
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Noooo--YOU said Hillary would make a better president than Obama...I told you why I think she won't run.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  NOOOOOOO- You made an accusation, like many others you make it and run, typical of what the left does.
  
  You said "was Hillary involved in Fast and Furious" So prove she was, back up you statement. Show REAL proof, not a blog, not someones opinion. Show a Government report, hell for that matter, show anywhere in the hearing that Clinton's name was even mentioned.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And, why did I bring it up??Because you said she would be better than Obama. I told you why I THOUGHT she would never do it.
  
  Never did I say she was involved... I said there are articles out there alleging so...read them and make up your own mind.
  
  They come from RW sources, so they MUST be true.
  
  They allege involvement from Holder and Obama too....THAT you believe, right?
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
But Obama is just giving a pro-Israel speech that would make Bibi proud...

I'm off his band-wagon.

Palestinians don't matter.

He is pushing the same right wing garbage about Iran.

Buh bye BO.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  [i]"Buh bye BO."[/b]
  
  Finally something we can agree on and the sooner the better.
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Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years ago
FYI Department:
http://www.truth-out.org/are-war-hawks- … 1330468416
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Palestinians are beautiful people too...and no one gives a D about them.

Sacrificial lambs to PNAC.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Munich, Achilli Lauro Yea they are flying examples of saints
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Do you know what NAKBA is?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Palestinians are beautiful people too"
  
  In your opinion, is that before or after they blow themselves up on a bus full of Jews, LMC?
  
  Let me guess, that depends on the number of Jews killed in the explosion.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Operation Cast Lead.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's amazing how some people expect others to do what they would never do - lie down and die at the demand of others.
  
  With others, it's not amazing at all when it's realized the level of hate there is in some peoples hearts.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"I think in Israel it’s quite evident that there is some popularity for smashing any Arab or Muslim country. Israel has become a very mean society perhaps comparable with the American south in the height of the oppression of the Blacks, historically."

Why are we supporting this? Is it the Sampson Option? I don't understand. We watch crimes committed and do nothing.

Does anyone know?

"The spectacle of American Presidents marching to AIPAC Conferences to pledge unbreakable loyalty to Israel, must stop. Obama would be seen as treasonous if he pledge loyalty and commitment to Mexico or even the United Kingdom."
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You didn't just cross the line, Wizard. You taken a flying leap over it.
  
  I take it you don't nor care about any Jews?
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I care very much about Jews, LH, but I also care very much about Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis.
  
  However, Netanyahu and his thugs are ruthless and using the same kind of tactics that were once used on their parents and grandparents by Nazi thugs.
  
  I'm against thugs, gangsters and tribes who kill innocent people—regardless of their ethnicity or country of origin.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Arabs that hate Jews - thugs, gangsters and tribes who kill innocent people"
  
  Palestinians that hate Jews - thugs, gangsters and tribes who kill innocent people"
  
  My step-dad is Jewish and helped liberate a concentration camp during WWII. He's told me the stories of what he saw. Perhaps the Jews are simply using the same tactics as those trying wipe them out and believe the first Holocaust wasn't enough
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What Palestinians were holding Jews in concentration camps?
  
  Why are THEY paying for that atrocity?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The level of hate in some people's hearts is not the least bit amazing when it's realized they agree with the killing of millions of a people, only wish it could have been more, and wish for the continuance today.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree. But we disagree on who the Haters are.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's VERY clear who the haters are, LMC. Your posts provide all the evidence needed.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There are not many people left who agree with the acts of the Holocaust but that is what is always so astounding to me that the Jewish people could have suffered so much at the hands of an oppressive power and that they then decide to go an oppress another people with their own power, it shows a complete moral deficit, for you information there are hundreds of Jews against Zionism organisations because it is obvious to ethical people that what is being done is wrong.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  ". . . they then decide to go an oppress another people with their own power, it shows a complete moral deficit . . ."
  
  How is self defense oppression of another people when those other people are trying to kill you?
  
  Since when is acting in self defense a complete moral deficit?
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  Hollie Thomasposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How can building illegal settlements be deemed self defence?
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That one will never get answered, because it's indefensible!
  
  In fact, it's criminal.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Who says the settlements are illegal? If China says its illegal for America to build any more new homes, does that make it so? does another country or group of people get to tell you what is legal or not legal? So if the answer is no, then why does the Palistinians get to tell Israel what they can build or not build?
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. The reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions has declared the settlements illegal[13] as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice.[14]"
  
  And just plain common sense. You don't get to go to a person's house and take it..unless you are a thug, and thugs are criminals and criminals go to jail.
  Unless you are above the law, in which case you are a pariah.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind . . . as the saying goes.
  
  Both sides are guilty of revenge and assassination and if they care about their progeny, both sides have to stop the hatred and seek honest reconciliation. I had a close friend and neighbor who was a wounded Israeli soldier and who felt the same way. He just died (of an aneurism in his sleep) and he hated Likud and Netanyahu's villainy and I know lots of Jews and Israelis feel the same outrage wrt their tactics and paranoia.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I completely understand the dislike of one's political leaders but there are some on HP who hate Israel and Jews as one in the same just as the Nazis hated the Jews and wanted them dead. Not you, Wizard. At least that's not impression I got of you but I do have of another because of their own words.
  
  As for their tactics and paranoia, if I had bombs blowing up in the streets of my city, people trying to shoot me, and a psycho wanting to wipe out my country, I would be a little paranoid, too.
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  Wizard Of Whimsyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The bombs are the result of hatred and revenge and for that there is responsibility on both sides. The point is the rabid right are responsible for the injustice, murder and mayhem heaped on innocent Palestinians as well.
  
  If you can't look at both sides and objectively see what's happening there, then it's the same old crap of tribal identification with them vs. us.
  
  If you don't side with peace and a resolution of conflict/hatreds, then you're just part of the problem that our species has wrt the kind of dismal future that kind of mindset brings about.
  
  Think of two men fighting to the death with knives in the middle of a kindergarden class. Do you really think some reasons are valid for them to continue their fight as innocents are slain? Only an angry fool would!
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I understand Israel is trying to survive as a country. I also understand the Palestinians want the land they claim was taken from them to form Israel in the first place.
  
  How do you purpose to make both sides happy?
  
  Dissolve Israel and give it all to the Palestinians? Israel would say that's unacceptable.
  
  Split Israel in two and give the Palestinians half? Which half? What cities?
  
  Honestly, we're having to protect something that should have never been set up but what do we do? Say to hell with and walk away? If we do, there would be just one more blood bath on both sides.
  
  There is no way to make both sides happy, Wizard, but I'm not telling you something you don't already know. It's modern day politics mixed with centuries old hatred with us stuck in the middle trying to keep the two sides from killing each other.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yup..these Zio-Ogres are the Nazis. IMO
  
  Just changed victims. Same agenda. Hell on Earth.
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klarawieckposted 13 years ago
Yes, we can!

. . . in twenty years!
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"No LMC,

To choose anyone except Obama is not war."

Ha! These dudes disagree:

"Charles Koch took the stage.

He welcomed his comrades with a warning of the peril facing the nation. Alluding to the 2012 election, he invoked Saddam Hussein and declared, "This is the mother of all wars we've got over the next 18 months, for the life or death of this country." A spokesman from Koch Industries later denied that the Saddam comment referred to Obama.

"This is not pressure," Koch went on, preparing to acknowledge 32 individuals and families who had given more than a million dollars each in the past year to the "Kochtopus"—what political insiders call the network of advocacy groups the brothers have employed in their discreet attempt to shape American political life to their whims. He admitted that the million-dollar club actually had 42 members; the other 10 "will remain anonymous, including David and me," he quipped. "We're very humble."

Kochtopus....INteresting! Do you know of Octopus? Maybe very similiar...or even one and the same?
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And Soros.......
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What about him?
  
  You said going against Obama was not war...Koch bros say it is.
  
  Maybe Soros is at war with Koch bros, who knows?
  
  But this is a declared war against Obama.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Koch bros say it is"
  
  And if Soros says jump off the Brooklyn Bridge you would? You hate(your words) Koch so now you will listen to them too? Do not be swayed by what people say, I think I have said that a few million times LMC
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Koch and ALEC run America......They are counter to my knowledge of what America is.
  
  We are a caring people, not money-hungry polluters who care nothing for humanity.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Soros runs America.....They are counter to my knowledge of what America is.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Based on what?
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Same to you,based on what. Use real facts not bloogers or opinion
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Since these TP Repubs have taken office in 2010, they are wreaking havoc on America.
  Destroying unions for right to work.
  Taking over towns...just getting rid of elected officials and replacing them with their buddies.
  Working to get rid of environmental protections so the Kochs and their ilk can pollute at will.
  Cutting money from schools, welfare programs---for people desperately in need.
  
  I heard a senator or rep from New Hampshire on the radio yesterday, and she said it will take years to undo the damage the R's have done to their state.
  
  They are corporate mongers, and people come last.
  
  You can look up ALEC and see what they are up to.
  
  And we know only little of the damage Kochs have done..I know they were dumping benzene in water...that was in a thread here....
  
  Anyway--I dont want them ruling my kids life. Is that OK? That is my opinion...you can google ALEC and Kochs if you care.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Again, FACTS not opinion. Glad to see you admit your spout opinion and not facts
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Hmmm, bingo.:

Drug money saved banks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/d … ief-claims

Same things have been said about Romney: he was laundering money at Bain

http://pauldrockton.com/2002Olympics.html

sorry...Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

"Behind every great fortune is a crime." --Balzac
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Behind every silly comment is a Democrat talking point"
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So true, AV!!! Especially here on HubPages.
  
  This is only part of the reason I'm seriously considering leaving HubPages. The level of hatred for God, this country, it's Constitution, Jews, and anyone not willing to pucker up and kiss Obama's ass has turned this site into something that's very quickly becoming something that's just not worth my time anymore.
  
  Couple that with the fact that my professional writing is taking off in other ways, HubPages is quickly becoming of a waste of time. I'll just have to see.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "This is only part of the reason I'm seriously considering leaving HubPages. The level of hatred for OUR God, OUR demands for this country, OUR interpretation of it's Constitution, Muslims, and anyone not willing to pucker up and kiss Netanyahu's ass has turned this site into something that's very quickly becoming something that's just not worth my time anymore."
  
  See? I can re-write too.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I've rewritten nothing of yours or anyone elses, LMC. However, given the amount of Democrat, rot-gut Kool-aide you've been guzzling, it doesn't surprise me that an original thought is hard to come by for you.
  
  I've had the impression you were an atheist and used scripture to do nothing more than disparage it.
  
  Your demands on this country and it's Constitution are that you want us to change from a democratic society to that of a socialist one. Your 'give me, give me, give me" attitude is VERY evident.
  
  GIVEN YOUR OWN POSTS, it's VERY evident what your feelings are toward Jews and how you can't stand it when you're called on it.
  
  "that's very quickly becoming something that's just not worth my time anymore."
  
  Well, hell, if you're leaving, I think I'll stay.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So, Zionist = Jew?
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I wrote something called I love Jesus....
  But I suppose he's not YOUR Jesus, so it doesn't count.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't OWN Jesus, LMC. He owns me. Bought and paid for with His own blood. I would ask if that's the same for you but from YOUR OWN WORDS, I get the impression it's not. That's your business and, frankly, I don't care.
  
  I guess what you've written in your hubs is totally different from what you write in the forums because, after reading your posting in the forums, I got the impression you're an Atheist.
  
  I'm going by your postings here on the forums and they, like I've told you before, give the VERY strong impression you hate everything from yourself to Jews and EVERYTHING in between. As a result, 99% of what you write in political forums seems like nothing more than the rantings of a Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me, anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Christian Socialist. AGAIN, this is the impression YOU have given me. Perhaps others have that same impression as well.
  
  It's not my problem nor responsibility what your impression is to others. I'm going by YOUR OWN WORDS, LMC.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I wonder if you think you come across as a loving, Christian man?
  
  From what I see here on HP....most of the believers have nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
  
  And Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism.
  
  I know enough to know it says to take care of the orphans and widows....not make more of them.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am a loving man to those I love and, to those I love, yes, I come across that way. I don't trust and certainly don't love you, LMC, so I, in no way, expect to come across as a loving person to you. Frankly, your opinion of me matters about as much as that of my ex-wife's.
  
  I'm first and foremost a Christian and, as such, rebuke those that come at me negatively because they're not or at least have given me the impression they're not through their own words, as you have done through yours.
  
  I don't cram my religious beliefs down anyone's throat but I have been attacked for being a Christian. I've turned the other cheek only to have the other slapped as well. I decided some time ago not to let that happen again. If you have a problem with that, it's just that - your problem.
  
  "I know enough to know it says to take care of the orphans and widows....not make more of them."
  
  Might I suggest if you don't want more "orphans and widows", maybe you should go start an anti-suicide bomber campaign in the Middle East where some think it's okay to blow themselves up in the name of their "peaceful and tolerant religion". Good luck with that but watch out for flying body parts.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Long,
  
  That is why this site is the way it is. All the decent people with great views, on either side of the aisle I might add, just get sick of the hate and leave. Their own fellow Dems leave!! I did not agree with those people but they were civil, showed real facts not bloggers or opinions. I wish they were still he. Hard to have an intellectual conversation with those who have road blocks in front of them.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, I understand, AV, but there are times when I REALLY want to say some things that's going to do two things - make me loose me religious convictions and get kicked off HP. The first isn't worth it and I'm beginning to dislike this site more and more.
  
  Besides, with my first book taking off, two more in the works, and some family health issues, I don't have the time for it that I did before. We'll see. I may stay if for no other reason but to piss LMC off. That won't hard. As long as I keep breathing, she'll be pissed. She hates me just like everything else.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Really? I see plenty of haters still here.
  
  Those who think women are sl*ts, and that Arabs deserve to be brutalized..
  
  "She hates me just like everything else."
  
  Is this a personal attack?
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You are right LMC, sounds like a personal attack, the personal attack you give him.
  
  That was his point, there are plenty of left haters here, so happy to see you admit it
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know:
  
  "Those who think women are sl*ts, and that Arabs deserve to be brutalized.."
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, LMC, it's my personal opinion born out your own written word.
  
  Perhaps you should turn your computer off and think about how you're treating others that don't agree with you here on HP. Maybe in your personal life as well.
  
  Honestly, you sound TOTALLY irrational sometimes and almost every time your writing to me or about me.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So--you get to decide who and what I am? Gee, tanks.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Typical, twist it around. He said nothing about deciding who you are, he is telling you what he sees based on your responses. Making a decision about you based on what you portray is not telling you what to be
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So--he has the right to tell me who and what I hate?
  
  Really? OK. Let me lay down my will and you peeps can take over.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't have to tell you what or who to hate nor do I have any desire to do so, LMC. Your words lay it out PLAINLY here on HubPages.
  
  Whether you choose to continue to hate the people and things is up to you.
  
  Whether you choose to continue to express it here is up you as well.
  
  Whether others choose to call you on it is up to them.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's just it though...I don't see it as hate. And when I do hate, I say it! You think you have the right to tell me how I feel!
  
  You do not.
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  American Viewposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just keep twisting and telling yourself that
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Really? I can tell myself how I feel?? Why thanks ever so much!
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Just curious....I recently saw a show on PBS called Nazi Hunters.
These survivors of that evil spent their lives hunting down Nazi's to get revenge for what they did....

How do you suppose Palestinians think of the Zionists now?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm just surprised you find what the Nazis did as evil.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And I'm not surprised that you don't think what the Zios are doing is.
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tobey100posted 13 years ago
The one positive Obama has had on me is to be eternally grateful I am not, never have been, nor ever will be a liberal Democrat. It's bad enough being an American during his administration much less a member of his party.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree, Tobey.
  
  I have a feeling there will be scores of Liberals, Dems, and Socialists throwing themselves from bridges on November 7th.
  
  You know what! We can make it a party and invite all that had the sense to not vote for Obama. We'll call it the "Happy Days Are Here Again Celebration." We'll play some music, grill some burgers and hot dogs, and holler, "Hey, y'all, watch 'is!" every time one of them jumps.
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  tobey100posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm in!!!!
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No--we'd just be free to disrespect, bring guns to speeches,call his wife trash, his daughters sl*ts, and act like you have no business governing, just because you won. In other words.... treat you as you like to be treated, apparently.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You must be referring to Tea Parties, LMC, and, as I've stated NUMEROUS times, I am NOT a member of the Tea Party nor have I ever been to one of their events. I have never taken a gun to a political speech but I do have a permit to carry. I do think Michelle spends way too much money and I don't like her BUT I HAVE NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT THEIR KIDS.
  
  THE GIRLS ARE STRICTLY OFF LIMITS.
  
  YOU'RE LETTING YOUR HATE GUIDE YOUR THINKING YET AGAIN, LMC. GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT, LADY!
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You get it straight....I was not refering to you personally, but the Whole Right Wing.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When you click on the reply button to one of my comments you should expect a response.
  
  You should know that by now, LMC.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But you need to have the decency to reply honestly. I never said you LH personally, and neither did you. You were talking about the right-wing as a group, and so was I.
  
  You are using dis-honest tactics.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So--we are the enemy?
  
  and this is war.
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puter_drposted 13 years ago
I love how this thread lives on months after Harvey was banned.
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Longhunterposted 13 years ago
"Ummm I made it clear it did happen in the USA... So no it's not apples and oranges. Still no answer I see... How surprising."

My bad, Josak. I misunderstood.

If your friend went to an emergency room as they are set up now, care is not denied. They can not turn a patient away due to the inability to pay.

Obamacare has not been fully implemented. Since you say it was free, that tells me he either has very good insurance or can not pay and the cost of his treatment causes the treatment of others who do have insurance to go up.
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  People who need treatment in the long term can be turned away trust me and his treatment was covered under the urgent treatment plan part of Obamacare rolled out in late 2010. I see you never answered the questions.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your "questions" weren't questions, Josak. They were statements on how you like to know something.
  
  As I stated before, I'm glad your friend got the care he needed. No, I would not want to explain to your friend's children if their father didn't make it. Unfortunately, the cost of his care will now be passed on to the tax payer and it's only going to get worse from here.
  
  It is fortunate he got sick WHEN he did instead of a few years from now. If Obamacare is fully implemented, he would not have been so lucky.
  
  I have to ask. Is your friend here legally?
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  Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Seriously? What is wrong with you? Yes he is here legally and despite your predictions of gloom free healthcare is working fine around the world in every first world nation and many third world nations, your predictions are not based on any evidence or fact.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Pregancy was considered a pre-existing condition!
  
  People DIED under Brewer because she refused to fund medical needs!
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Can't say I like this lady, but today I've got to hand it to her.....

Babs Bush (Barbara, the Silver Fox):

"The former first lady, who recorded a robocall for Mitt Romney praising him (and avoiding knocking President Obama, as originally scripted) made clear her feelings about the 2012 race, via the Dallas Morning News:

“I think it’s been the worst campaign I’ve ever seen in my life,” she said Monday at Southern Methodist University during a conference on the influence of the nation’s first ladies. “I hate that people think compromise is a dirty word. It’s not a dirty word,” she said..."

Hats off, Lady.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"Hillary is alleged to have created Fast and Furius...no way is she going anywhere."

Posted 42 hours ago
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
No answer, Ok..then I'm going to say my peace on YOU guys.

The problem here at HP, IMO--is not that there are "liberals",it's that there is no respect given to other opinions.

Like this:

"Never let it be said that LMC lets the facts get in the way of her thinking."

You say I attack LH? Where have I said anything like this about him? And his other quip about me: a fight with LMC is like a fight with an unarmed person...something like that: implying I'm dumb.

And then you: I mention something that is alleged about Hillary, and all of a sudden, you are painting me as some left-wing wacko who is accusing her of doing it!

You can't have a rational discussion....because you dislike me so. So while you decry the lack of intelligent discourse on HP....maybe you should quit demonizing your opponents...it might make discussion a little easier.

After all, your pal addressed me as "Belch".

And please don't come back an tell me about how I do the same: I try and leave the demonizing to public figures, not you.

Thank you, over and out.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I never said you were dumb, LMC, and I didn't imply it either. You are, however, a typical liberal. You never let the facts get in the way of your thinking. Exactly what I said.
  
  I, in fact, don't think you're dumb. Quite smart actually but that's all clouded by your obvious, overriding, unmitigated hate for EVERYTHING. That's something only you can fix as it is only you thinking others perceive you as dumb.
  
  As for Hillary being involved in Fast and Furious, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about and neither do you as I've never thought nor said she was involved. Fast and Furious falls squarely on the shoulders of Holder and your president, Barack Hussein Obama.
  
  You hate me so much you don't even realize it was, I think, American View who may have brought Hillary into the Fast and Furious discussion. You can deal with whoever brought up but it wasn't me so, as usual, you're attacking the wrong person.
  
  You're not dumb, LMC. Far from it. You are, however, so filled with hate you're blinded by it. That's your problem, lady! Not mine.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"You are, however, so filled with hate you're blinded by it. That's your problem, lady! Not mine."

I REST MY CASE.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They're words born out of fact, LMC, that, again, your so blinded by your hate that you can't see the truth.
  
  AGAIN, that's your problem, LMC. Not mine. Only you can do the necessary self-evaluation and fix the problem. That is, unless you have no problem with others thinking your blinded by your own hate. IMHO, you are especially when it comes to me.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ok..it's a FACT that I hate so much, I can't see the truth......
  
  what would that truth be?
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Once the clouds of your own hate have lifted, you figure it out. Go back and reread. Take notes. Do whatever it takes.
  
  But STOP taking your petty hatred out on me and STOP flying off the handle because of it. You're doing yourself a horrible disservice and I, for one, simply can't take you seriously anymore.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No--I don't have a problem with me. YOU told me that I hate and can't see the truth...
  
  YOU explain!
  
  What Truth?
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Whoa...I just got it!

I don't have a problem with me....THAT'S the problem!

I must conform and then I'll be OK.....

"you are getting sleepy.....you are getting sleepy"..... No Tanks!

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bug … FORM=VIRE3
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You'll never learn, will you? I honestly don't want you to conform, LMC. Where would the fun be in that?
  
  Go back and reread. Take notes. Do whatever it takes. You're fighting with the wrong person on Fast and Furious but you don't see it because of your white hot hate for me.
  
  You accuse me of saying things about the Obama girls but I haven't but you don't see it because of your white hot hate for me.
  
  You accuse me of personal attacks but I've only pointed out what I see due to your own words. You refuse to see that because of your white hot hate for me.
  
  I tell you what. You calm down and do some serious self-evaluation, then we'll talk. Until then, you have a good day. I have work to do.
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"You refuse to see that because of your white hot hate for me."

You get rid of this baloney,and then we can talk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfTiw8qZI6U
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just telling it like I see it, LMC. You have a great day.
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  Cassie Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think she really likes you because she protests so much.
  
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  :lol I seriously doubt that since her own words bare out the fact she doesn't like anything.
  
  I don't want her to change for me but rather herself. I can walk away and am seriously considering leaving HP for several reasons. But the way she is isn't healthy for her.
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  Cassie Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hopefully, you're not walking away because of a hubber. The site has been going through a lot of changes, not all good ones. I'm waiting to see whether it's worth being active here.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No one person is going to drive me away from anything, Cassie. I'm just very short on time. I've published my first book and it's doing well. I have two more in the works and there are some family health issues I'm helping to work through. If I leave, it'll be due to time or the lack thereof.
  
  You shouldn't leave either and I hope all is well with you.
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  Cassie Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Congratulation on your book! Author, author! Is it a suspense, mystery?
  
  Sorry to hear about the health issues in your family.
  
  Well, I hope you decide to stick around, but since you have a lot of things on your plate, I can understand any absence.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Neither. Oddly enough, it's a children's book. The second is one as well. The third is a suspense novel.
  
  We'll see about the sticking around and I hope you do as well.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you make the right decision.
  
  There is a place you might feel comfortable.....WND, have you heard of it?
  
  I'll be praying for you.
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  Cassie Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Look, I ignore you because it's not worth my effort to respond, and I'm doing it this one time. Please return the favor. Thanks.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Go In Peace, my sister.
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  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Cassie, I get the impression this isn't the first time you've encountered LMC.
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  Cassie Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As a hubber who has conservative views, it's hard to avoid her. Most of her posts are rants and hard to follow.
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