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   jbieberfan11posted 13 years ago

   Do you really care if you know gay,lesbian,or Bisexual people?

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No there sexual orientation doesn't bother me. As long as they are nice people they add value to my life despite their orientation.

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      Shahid Bukhariposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Unnatural ... is not Human ... in fact, of life ... the animals also shun it ...
      see it ... if you can ...

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         Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Nothing wrong in being gay and it is normal as we are animals too.
         I just happen not to be attracted to my same sex like many of you out there.
         
         A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them

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            Rajab Nsubugaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Numbers do not make "normal!" In a class of a 100 students only one will be no.1. Out of the 1,500 species observed, how many where got out of their natural habitation? My only guess is that all of them. Gayism is bad!

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               Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Rajab Nsubuga
               
               Are you saying, the species that became house pet of a same sex couple, learn gay sex from their owner?
               
               I never seen same sex perform in public have you, and how did any of wildlife picked up on it?
               
               I sure it was all in their instinct

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                  psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I would suggest he is contradicting facts with his prejudices.  Some occurance of homosexual sex and pairing is almost universal in mammals from penguins or hedgehogs.  This is true whether people like it or not.
                  
                  I also think it is very rude to tell people on this forum that their sexual identity (which does not harm to anyone) is "bad".  No matter what a person might believe they should behave more courteously than that.

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                  Rajab Nsubugaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Castlepaloma & psycheskinner, I did not intend to harm anyone on this forum, however, what I meant was that "homosexuality" happens in the very "unnatural" circumstances. The only way I can put it is that we can not look at homosexuality as a 'virtue' but a problem of the society that has to be condemned. For sure there some pedophiles who think that it is in their natural setting to go for young girls. Should we accord them the Right?
                  
                  Castlepaloma, I don't have to first live with a mad person to become mad.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     It's must be uneasy for Rajab and psycheskinner to come to a forum titled gay, you may be a bit curious how 700 million gays on earth may think.
                     
                     It's easy to be homophobic but, very few are openly gay. That's changing with of more and more amoung gay people and the world.
                     
                     Think of it as one way to reduce the over populated in the world rather than war

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                        Rajab Nsubugaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Castlepaloma, homosexuality and war are both negatives. Two wrongs do not make it right. Try and enlist the merits of homosexuality.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Rajab Nsubuga
                           
                           I think 2 people making love to each other  is not wrong.
                           
                           Two people killing each other are not only wrong, but mentally ill.

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                              qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Castle:
                              I'm standing and applauding that comment!
                              Qwark

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                           Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Yes, it must be terrible for believers that people are killing each other while other people are loving each other, and that these are somehow one and the same.

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                     Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Homosexuality is not a "problem" for anyone. It doesn't harm anyone and is not unnatural.
                     
                     Ignorance and prejudice are a problem for society.  I'm very much  in favor of dealing harshly with those who exhibit these traits.  We'd lose much of value if we rid the world of homosexuals; I doubt we'd lose much at all if we lost all those who speak against them.

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                     Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Unfortunately, you have not "put it" in anyway other than being intolerant and bigoted. And, it is blatantly obvious to anyone that the intolerance and bigotry is driven by religious beliefs and has nothing to do with being virtuous, unnatural or anything else you might fabricate.
                     
                     It is the intolerance and bigotry of those religious beliefs that need to be condemned, if anything.
                     
                     
                     
                     It's very sad that believers need to fallaciously equate the love between two consenting adults with the sexual preferences of an adult over a child in order to support their religious beliefs.
                     
                     Very sad, indeed.

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               qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Rajab:
               Gay is bad only in the minds of religious fanatics, human loons and the abjectly ignorant.
               I say if the shoe fits, wear it.
               How fortunate for you to have found the right size shoe!
               Thats "fate" for ya!
               Qwark   :

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         skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         BS.
         
         Parakeets, giraffe are also homosexual species. Are you telling me that any behavior which is from natural species is called un-natural ? Get some education.
         
         In that case how about Muhammad uncle marrying 9 year old girl ? hell natural right ?
         
         Come up with evidence dude, before spitting venom by taking help of animal kingdom as point.

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            Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            From the med evil times of the bible, they had to marry about age 12, because they only lived into their mid 20s. 
            
            Incest goes back to Adam and Eve family. There many cases in the Bible about incest, porn and rape it’s all ok because it was all in God plan. Sample in Genesis, Timothy, Samuel and so on. 
            
            I can’t bare to get into to get into today’s, Child Sexual Molestation by "Bible” Clergymen
            
            Make same sex adult seem tame

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      Toby Hansenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Being transsexual, it would be rather hypocritical if I did.
      
      I have never asked any of my friends what their preferences are, as it is none of my business. If they want me to know, they will tell me.

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      Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't invite them into my private life, nor should they invite me into theirs. Friends is fine by be, we can all use more of those, but the only bedroom I care about is my own.

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      prettydarkhorseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No.

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   camloposted 13 years ago

   No. And sexual orientation only interests me if I want to sleep with somebody. Otherwise, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to anything.
   Thinking about it, I don't even know the sexual orientation of some of my friends ...

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   sandra rinckposted 13 years ago

   Nope.

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   Yes. I care if I know gay, lesbian and bisexual people, for two reasons. One, because I like to have positive and creative and kind and generous people in my life. Second, I want to have people in my life who keep me humble. I never want to take for granted that I'm not harassed, derided, discriminated against, beaten up,or murdered because of my sexuality.

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      camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Being gay, lesbian or bisexual is as normal here in Cologne as being heterosexual, so it's easy for me to forget those things you mention. But those things did exist in England when I lived there, and, as I gather from visiting gay Brits, things haven't changed much.

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         jharasorianoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Is Cologne a city in England?

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            camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            No. Cologne (Köln) is a city in Germany, not far from Belgium and the Netherlands.

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well said and I agree completely.

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   Bill Manningposted 13 years ago

   Yes, I love having sexy lesbians around me! One of my best friends is lesbian, and my hairdresser is gay.
   
   Plus having lesbians as friends they will tell you all those secrets a guy needs to know about how to please a woman!
   
   Just don't ask them out if your a guy,,,,,

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      jharasorianoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      haha....You can still ask them.... (just not for a romantic set up)

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   Wendy Krickposted 13 years ago

   Doesn't matter to me one bit!

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   Diffugere_nivesposted 13 years ago

   I think that it's important to have a diverse group of people in your life to help you grow in new ways to share life experiences from different angles and learn more about ourselves, each other and the challenges that people face in their lives through discrimination. As a lesbian I understand the challenges of that, however I have friends that are transgendered and it helps me see that my experiences are nothing compared to the discrimination they face even within the gay community. I agree with Mighty mom that we can feel humbled by accepting diversity into our lives. Surely that can only make us better people.

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   Urbane Chaosposted 13 years ago

   One of my best friends was bi - and she was extremely proud of it.
   
   I really don't care as long they don't push the issue on me.  It doesn't matter what age you are, you should always respect another persons feelings.

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   kmackey32posted 13 years ago

   nope

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm straight, but fell gays are as normal as I am.
      
      About 10% of the world is Gay, and there are a few animals that are gay also.  If all the gays on earth were put together into one country, they would be the third largest country in the world. True democracy of gays alone would out vote the these 7 countries making homosexual a death penalty - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Sudan, Nigeria, Mauritania
      
      (ILGA) said in a May 2010 report that 76 nations criminalize "consensual sexual acts between persons of the same sex in private over the age of consent.
      
      Same-sex marriage Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Iceland, Netherland, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden
      
      To me, discrimination against gays is on the same level as discrimination against any minority race.

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    rotlposted 13 years ago

    No... gay or straight, there are wonderful people and not so wonderful people.

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    Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago

    Nope.
    
    Although when I saw Kathryn Zeta Jones in the movie "Chicago", I thought she was so beautiful I wished I was a lesbian.
    
    (And if you don't get the joke, it's okay...)
    
    Other than that, definitely makes no difference.

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       jharasorianoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I got it.....

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       dragonrainsd13posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Me too! giggle and i am gay...hmm:P

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    Pcunixposted 13 years ago

    Yeah, I care.  I like the people I do know.
    
    Do you mean do I care if they were hiding it? Yes, in a way I do care, because I'd rather have a society where no one ever felt they needed to hide at all.

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Pcunix
       
       It's a hell of a game of hide and seek, yeh.

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    edelhausposted 13 years ago

    not in the least.

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    jharasorianoposted 13 years ago

    Well, I'm gay and I think there's no problem about it as long as you don't do any bad things that can hurt other people. It's just good to be true. Enjoy life to the fullest and reach those stars. Discrimination is still a big issue. And most of the gays and lesbians in Earth really feel bad about it.

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    Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

    I'm probably not gay but couldn't really care less what people like to do.  What puzzles me is how discrimination against so many 'types' of people still continues.
    
    You might have thought we would have all grown up by now.

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I'm with you on that.

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    Freelance5posted 13 years ago

    I'm Christian and I personally am not offended at all. Honestly what you'll find is most Gay people or couples just want peace.

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    TammyHammettposted 13 years ago

    It saddens me that people would even consider treating someone different according to their orientation. I am a spiritual person and believe that the way that we treat others and our negative views will always come back to you in a negative way.  If everyone just tried to be the best person they can be, no matter their orientations, but more with how they treat others, their moral character, etc., then I believe our world would be a much better place. Our society continues to be filled with hate for other's differences. We've come a long way with allowing integration, such as racism (no longer having separate drinking fountains, special seats on the bus, etc). But the level of hatred and discernment has not progressed as much as it should in this day and age. Just focus on yourself, be the best person you can be, be of high moral character, and don't worry about trying to control others and their beliefs, as long as they are not inflicted upon you in any way. Blessings!!!!

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       Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Very well said.

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    Pearldiverposted 13 years ago

    Castlepaloma, I don't have to first live with a mad person to become mad.

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I was on  gay master swim  team for three years and I was the only person not gay. I did not become mad or become gay.
       
       It might be different if I was sent to prison for three years.

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          dragonrainsd13posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          LOL! i love your wit!

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    DzyMsLizzyposted 13 years ago

    The thing is, it is not a "lifestyle choice," as there are scientifically proven differences that can be seen in CAT scans of the brain.
    
    Although I am neither 'gay' nor 'bi,' it is simply not an issue for me, and I don't see why so many people want to make it an issue.  It is irrelevant.  We are all people, humans, homo sapiens, it simply does not matter, and is none of anyone else's business! No one should tell anyone else how to live their lives anymore than the government should be snooping into anyone's bedroom to see what goes on behind closed doors, and this goes for heterosexuals as well. 
    
    For those arguing from a religious standpoint, especially those who call themselves 'Christian,' let me point out that your bible says, "judge not lest ye be judged."
    Judgment is not our job on this planet.  The same book also says, 'let him among you who is without sin cast the first stone.'  Since this is an imperfect world populated by imperfect beings, not a single one of us can claim to be entitled to cast that stone.
    
    Let it be--drop the subject.  I am sick to death of all the gay-bashing.  There are far worse and more important things about which to get upset.

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       qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Dzy:
       The bible also says that homosexuals should be put to death.
       Qwark

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          DzyMsLizzyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I had a fully detailed explanation and answer written out, but decided against posting it, qwark, because you are obviously one who refuses to be educated and will continue to believe what you choose to believe even when the truth has been shown to you.
          
          I therefore instead choose not to waste anymore of my time in this fruitless discussion.  People are what and who they are, and they need to be allowed to live their lives free from persecution.  Period.

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             know oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I thought he was merely pointing out another shady area of the bible as an adjunct to your post. Quark - from other posts of his - strikes me as someone who fully understands and appreciates the truth. Did I miss something?

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    know oneposted 13 years ago

    I think there's something heroic in going against your society's norm. It would not bother me a dot if someone was gay just by virtue of that alone. Opposite probably - I like to be with people who are true to themselves.
    
    As for animals having same-sex, I was researching this recently as I was trying to find out if wolves were gay. I was surprised at just how common it is - even the lions, which certainly bucked a stereotype for me. Apparently it strengthens the pride to have such close bonds formed. Research showed that in some bird colonies the one's raised by gay couples were far better looked after. They thrived ahead of the hetero-led families. I never did get my proof about the wolves though! If anyone wants to answer that, please do :-)

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Wildlife wolf in which are part dog do have same sex acts. Studies do not know if they live the gay lifestyle
       
       There are human gay wolf and bear clubs, maybe they know.

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          know oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you. I never came across a single reference to it in the wolf-dog world... I figured they must - given what i had learnt about the lions in the process of trying to find out  ;-)
          
          Not being aware of the various sub cultures in the human gay community, I have only just realised (with a quick google on the subject) that I may have been out to dinner last night with a gay wolf... I'm pretty sure I won't be jotting off an email to ask him though.

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    OpinionDuckposted 13 years ago

    Individuals can be looked at individually in total, but looking at a political social organization is to be looked at by their goal, and by their methods of achieving that Goal.
    
    I don't agree with the ACLU as I think their efforts undermine and not bolster the country.
    
    I don't agree with the militant, political and subverse methods used by the LGBT. The country has enough problems to deal with, and yet they choose this time to get their goals.
    
    They are well funded, and politically connected and they fill the entertainment world. This allows them too much power to accomplish their goal which is to be a norm in our society. In doing so they don't care to make society chaotic and resets all the values of norm.
    
    Not all individuals are in this movement, as all individuals are not in any movement.
    
    The point is that forcing their quest for be normal, moves the current norm to far off the meter to fit their idea of norm.
    
    There are a lot of sheep and weak minds in this world, and the politicians have first pick of them. The LGBT is using the politicians to get at these weak sheep. Then the movie and TV people of all levels seem to fit gays into everything that they produce, trying to get the non gay people to empathize with them. Sadly, this tactic really works.
    
    When all else fails, the LGBT goes on the legal route, and with the left already damaging the meaning of the constitution they use bent reasoned court cases as precedents.
    
    The Constitution has been weakened by those that wish to use it as a stick to get their way, right or wrong may they be in their quest.
    
    First of all, "All Men are Not Created Equal".
    Second the Fourteenth Amendment was not added to the Constitution for the LGBT.
    
    In the old days there was a Court of Law and a Separate Court of Equity. Today the Court of Equity is pretty much dead. Abortion and Homosexuality are not really the kinds of issues that should be decided by a court of law.
    
    It is the LGBT that is making the militant move to have this forums question even exist.
    
    Lets see how true that is with the kind of reply my comment will attract here.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    Gay people exist...they are not going to go away. They are not destroying culture, they are just trying to be allowed to be themselves.
    
    And, believe it or not, the ACLU would protect an anti-gay organization as well as a pro-gay organization if their rights were being denied.

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       OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Nothing you said is a fact.
       They are destroying our culture period.
       They can be themselves without trying to make the rest change.
       The rest can't be themselves if they have to change their culture to a foreign culture, especially if they don't agree with that culture.

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          Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          No body is trying to make you gay or change anything about you. Why do you insist on changing others? Would it be so wrong to have a society where everyone did not judge the lifestyles of others?
          
          My "facts" are more credible than yours. Accept others as they are and worry about your own sex life.

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             OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             What facts do you have, I didn't read any.
             
             Nothing you said is a fact.
             They are destroying our culture period.
             They can be themselves without trying to make the rest change.
             The rest can't be themselves if they have to change their culture to a foreign culture, especially if they don't agree with that culture
             
             You and the LGBT are trying to change me, it is not the around way around.
             
             You the one that mentioned sex drive, not me.
             
             I just don't think that the LGBT has to be given any special treatment.
             
             LGBT doesn't fit into the existing society, and by bullying their way into it, they will cause a disruption and chaos into it.
             
             As they have done with marriage.
             Our society is separated by gender, but if gender doesn't have the same attributes then society is not prepared to deal with it.
             
             LGBT is not normal for the species and it never will be normal, and maybe it will never go away but it still doesn't make it normal.
             
             It is really the pushy and militant manner that bothers me the most about LGBT. Instead of trying to put their square peg into a round society maybe they should consider developing their own society.

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                dragonrainsd13posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Ok...we are not asking for special treatment... your just so ignorant that you can't see that. Marriage is not between a man and woman anthropologically is nothing but having sex. Point is we don't want special treatment if we wanted special treatment we would ask for marriage without conflict..let us be miserable like everyone else in this. Frankly the only reason why society is split gender wise is because of idiot men who had to have there way. normal is what a group of people who keep a average of what they know and call it normal.

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    OpinionDuckposted 13 years ago

    People have bought into the gay quest for normality, and they use words like gay bashing, and homophobes.
    
    These are their word weapons that they try to hide behind.
    
    The LBGT movement has already had a bad effect on our country, society and culture.
    
    Take for example the gay quest for partaking in a purely heterosexual events like marriage.
    
    Civil Unions are not good enough for them, they want what the heterosexual have, marriage.
    
    They went to court to change marriage into something that it was never intended to be, gay.
    
    The real problem is that they don't want the problem of equality to be solved, they want to have their lifestyle validated as normal.
    
    Instead of trying to change Civil Union to have all of the rights and privileges of married couples, they took the route of changing the meaning of marriage.
    
    Even allowing Gays to be married doesn't solve the core problem of rights and privileges of the relationship.
    
    That is because it leaves the significant others out in the cold to fend for themselves. Significant others are people in a relationship that is not a marriage union, but it still is a union of two people. This covers the relationship of both homosexual and heterosexual relationship.
    
    In fact, the real solution would be to remove marriage from the federal taxes, and replace it with any contractual relationship for taxes, like a personal partnership. In the partnership agreement, any privileges that are consented to would then be honored the same as those for married couples.
    
    This would be a bigger solution to the problem, but it wouldn't the Validation that is wanted by the LGBT.
    
    So the LGBT is actually discrimating against other gays that don't want to get married.
    
    And until we become a coed society, the LGBT won't fit in to society.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    Gay are not allowed to have civil unions in many places, a wedding is just not performed in a religious service. Not all gays want to marry and no one is saying they must.
    
    I don't know what world you live in but gay people fit into mine.
    
    Live your own life and stop worrying about others.

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    OpinionDuckposted 13 years ago

    Gay,is it preference or genetic defect

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    OpinionDuckposted 13 years ago

    Keep your ideas to yourself
    
    Gay is not a Right, don't waste our already pathetic court system trying to have it validate your life styles.

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       dragonrainsd13posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       OK so nor is being heterosexual your point?

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    WryLiltposted 13 years ago

    As long as no gay men hit on me, I'm fine with it all....

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       OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What about bisexuals?

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          Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          It's quite simple, you say you are not interested and you both move on.
          
          And I'm not gay by the way, I just believe in letting people live their own lives as long as they don't go out of their way to hurt others. You don't have to be a member of a minority to care about their rights.

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       Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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    OpinionDuckposted 13 years ago

    I am sure that there are a lot of nice individuals in the Nazi party,
    it is the organization that I object to,
    and the same is true of individuals in the LGBT,
    again it is the organization that I object to.

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Duck
       
       I guess your worst nightmare would be making a wrong turn and walking into a Nazi/Gay bar.
       
       You would not be harmed at the bar, but I don't know about being harmed at the Nazi party.

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          AskAshlie3433posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I don't care if you are. That is your choice. As long as it makes you happy, I am all for it. This is yur life. You only get to live once so you do what makes you happy and don't let others influence your life and happiness!

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          AskAshlie3433posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I don't care if you are. That is your choice. As long as it makes you happy, I am all for it. This is yur life. You only get to live once so you do what makes you happy and don't let others influence your life and happiness!

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          AskAshlie3433posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I don't care if you are. That is your choice. As long as it makes you happy, I am all for it. This is yur life. You only get to live once so you do what makes you happy and don't let others influence your life and happiness!

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             AskAshlie3433posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             sorry, computer froze up

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                Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I want to make it clear, I am not gay, I am not gay,I am not gay,just in case a woman may pass me by out there. Yet, there is nothing wrong about being gay.

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       dragonrainsd13posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Frankly being gay is no choice if you know yourself. and there may or may not be a pre-disposition.happyiness is the point. 'normal' is a illusion period to every rule there is a exception. My rights stop where your nose starts, however you attacking me/us is a violation and you expect us not to fight back...wrong humans and many other creatures when cornered will fightback. No i don't care if someone is gay, bi, lesbian, straight all are unique in there own way, preference or attraction shouldn't affect weather they are a friend or not. I may not care for the execution of the message but at the same token they may not care for mine at times. that is how we as people learn and grow.

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    Zaiden Jaceposted 13 years ago

    I have known I was bisexual even in kindergarten. Liking both genders is natural to me. If you don't like the "idea" of being gay here's a thought, don't be gay! We don't hurt anyone and it is our own choice. Nobody should have a problem with who you choose to love and have relationships with. People who do have a problem are closed minded and ignorant.

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    Cheeky Girlposted 13 years ago

    There is nothing wrong with being gay OR straight, or bi (in my case) or anything else. We are human beings. Why get hung up about it? Some people don't like gays, be they women or men - but won't go beyond that. They live and let live, more or less, but there are the ones who go to the next level, all-out "hating". And I would be saddened to see it getting encouraged here. Lots of people who are gay or whatever actually want to just fit in and get along. And it's wrong to castigate people for something which they inherently cannot change about themselves. Being gay is a circumstance and not a choice.

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    brimancandyposted 13 years ago

    In answer to your original question that started this thread. I  find that most straight people I know don't mind that I am gay.
    But, I find that a majority of the people who don't mind are usually women, because the guys seem to think I have a motive in being friendly with them, as if I might want them. That might have been true with only two straight guys that I knew, but, I never would have acted on it, because I liked them too much.
    
    I only had a few totally distance themselves from me, and a few that would always want to discuss my "sins" with me, assuming that I am going to automatically jump up and kiss a girl! But, that was only after they learned I was gay, before that, they were all very chummy. Even wanted to go out drinking and to parties with me. But, once my gay card was shown...umm see you later MO!
    
    The saddest thing to me is not the loss of friendship. I have heard horror stories of people's families who have totally cast their family member aside. They won't speak to them, usually kicked to the curb with just the clothes on their backs. Get straight or don't come back! Some have even beat their kids and worse. It's a very touchy subject.
    
    There is more hate for gays in the world, then criminals. And, it doesn't seem to matter what their crime is, gays are always treated worse, even though they never hurt anyone.

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