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Can unbelievers question God's love for them?

  1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
    SwordofManticorEposted 5 years ago

    After all, the church teaches the unbelievers that God loves them so much that He created a hell for them if they do not accept the gift of His grace, nor love and worship Him all because of their free will.

    1. Ericdierker profile image54
      Ericdierkerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sure seems like it would be a strange mental gymnastic maneuver for no gain. But we do see that here. Many get into arguments about the traits and attitude of God even though they deny his  existence. I suppose they can question believers about it, but not God.
      And they can only question the believer about that believers belief not about Gods' attitude.
      No SoM it makes no sense at all.

      1. getitrite profile image78
        getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        We can't question Santa Claus either, because, like God, he is imaginary.

    2. A Troubled Man profile image61
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That's like if a ruthless despot offered the same thing to his followers and they didn't accept, he would create the worst possible torture for them. It's nothing but a threat.

      That's why non-believers reject your God.

      1. Zelkiiro profile image95
        Zelkiiroposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        But it's fine because he loves you~ <3 <3 <3

        1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
          SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Will He still love them while they are eternally roasting in horrendous pain?

          1. A Troubled Man profile image61
            A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            He didn't love them in the first place if He sent them there.

            1. Ericdierker profile image54
              Ericdierkerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Sometimes it does seem that this is not the world. That we have the right book but we are in the wrong place already, we just don't know it. ;-)

              1. A Troubled Man profile image61
                A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Oh no, we have the right world, it is the book that is garbage.

                1. Ericdierker profile image54
                  Ericdierkerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  The best selling most copied and quoted book of all history is hardly "garbage". In saying this you directly attack my beliefs and faith. Sorry ATM but that crosses a line. Please rephrase.

                  1. A Troubled Man profile image61
                    A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Yes, it is.



                    Yes, I am attacking your beliefs and faith, that is the entire point. If that upsets you, then you need to learn how to distance yourself from your faith and beliefs in order to discuss them. If you can't, that is a personal problem you'll have to deal with yourself.

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                    Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Directly attacking your beliefs and faith seems to be what these discussions are about.

            2. SwordofManticorE profile image79
              SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              @ATM, if what I said were true, I would have to agree with you.

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      Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      What's absurd here is that some are agreeing with you! Oh the humanity. Why some can't see through the lies is beyond me. Sounds like the mafia, give me money or I'll hurt you, believe in me or I'll roast you in hell for eternity.

  2. Zelkiiro profile image95
    Zelkiiroposted 5 years ago

    Depends. How do you feel about my invisible 60-foot-tall komodo dragon who loves you?

  3. profile image60
    augustine72posted 5 years ago

    The church does not teach that. It is you people who teach that and then you take a lot of pleasure in mocking something you teach.

    1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
      SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Are you accusing me of teaching that God made a place called hell for those who do not believe and mock what I teach? So what does the church teach about hell than?

  4. profile image60
    augustine72posted 5 years ago

    Yes I am accusing you. An by you I don't meant only you but most of atheists.

    The Church teaches that Hell was made for Satan and his angels. The Church teaches that these forces are at constant work to take us to Hell with them. The Church teaches that they are much more powerful than us and we cannot save ourselves from them and the only one who can do that is Jesus.

    Note: By Church I am not referring to any particular denomination that exists today. I mean any church that teaches the Bible truly.

    1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
      SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You wrote…" The Church teaches that Hell was made for Satan and his angels"
      God…I will make a hell for satan and his angels.
      Adam sins
      God…Aww, now I have to send most of my creation that I love there too.
      God…Why didn't I see this coming?

      Are starting to see the foolishness in your churches  belief system yet?

    2. Disappearinghead profile image77
      Disappearingheadposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Augustine, please read, reread, and reread again what you have written. Then ask you self, "Doesn't all that just sound silly?".

      1. Ericdierker profile image54
        Ericdierkerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        When the literalists take metaphors and dreams and declare them as facts, there is harm done. When the pharisees placed man's understanding above that of understanding God there was harm done -- including the crucifixion.

        1. Disappearinghead profile image77
          Disappearingheadposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Believing in fallen angels and an arch fiend of God wanting to drag us all to hell? Yes that sounds very much like man's understanding to me.

          1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
            SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            @DH, but didn't anyone tell you that fear sells?

 
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