Earnest, Mark and Tantrum are god, what do they do?
Love ?
I don't care as long as we still had sex, beer and football!
Sorry
Thats such a cute image
This is an open ended question you see Earnest, Mark and Tantrum could not be God , God is infinite and man is not is this the Christian thing to do? God is not mocked Galatians 6:7-8 Be not decieved God is not mocked for whatever a man or women sow they shall also reap. Here is a poem that I have tucked away on the computer that was sent to me, it is called "Another Man's Shoes"
I met a man walking, on a long dusty road;
he seemed to be burdened, with life's heavy load.
His hair was kind of shaggy, he'd been sleeping in his clothes;
his shoes were old and weathered, not pretty, heaven knows.
I said, "hello Sir, how do you do";
he looked at me and said, "how'd do".
I said, "Where are you going, on this hot sunny day";
he said, "I'm looking for heaven, and leave here I pray".
I said, "Come on now, don't be a fool";
he said, "This world is just too cruel".
I said, "Please explain your reasons to die;
before you leave this world and say good-by".
Then he said, "I'll tell you and maybe you'll see;
but promise me that you won't judge me".
Promise me that you won't condemn;
cause you just don't know, the condition I'm in.
You won't know me, or understand my blues;
until you have walked awhile in my shoes.
Until you have read every line in my face;
until you have stood awhile in my place.
You won't know me, until you have carried my load;
and struggled along this old dusty road.
Until you have felt, my pain and rejection;
and felt my sorrow, and felt my affliction.
He said, "I was born into dire poverty;
as rough a life, as ever can be".
My dad ran away, and my mother was cruel;
and everyone else, called me the fool.
I wandered the streets, when I was only nine;
getting into trouble and wasting my time.
I've been in many jails, throughout the years;
had a lot of heartache, shed a lot of tears.
I've felt cold eyes, staring at me;
by upper class people, and high society.
I've met people who won't, give me the time of day;
who went into a big fine church, and kneeled down to pray.
I've been cheated out of money, by everyone I've known;
I've been hated and despised, down to the bone.
I've felt hatred as cold, as an ice house floor;
from total strangers, that never met me before.
My whole life has been, filled with pain;
sometimes I wonder, if I'm insane.
But if I am, out of my mind;
why am I hated, most of the time.
Don't people have compassion on the mentally ill;
or be concerned, as to how do they feel.
Don't misunderstand me, I've done wrong too;
I'm not perfect, but neither are you.
People have tricked me, and slandered my name;
and talked behind my back, then smiled just the same.
I'm weary and tired, of life's heavy load;
not too many more days, will I walk this old road.
By my outward appearance, I know I'm not much;
But how can you judge me, by clothes and the such?
If anyone loved me, or cared at all;
they'd give me some help, this burden to haul.
Only God Loves me, this I believe;
from this whole world, nothing I receive.
If I were rich, and had plenty of money;
everyone would adore me, and call me honey.
But I am quite poor, from my presence they flee;
I've heard their cruel whispers, and slanders of me.
He now had stopped speaking, and he looked at my face;
I saw a tear on his cheek, leaving it's trace.
I was speechless and astounded, I spoke not a word;
he slowly turned, and walked down that old road.
I stood there just thinking, of the man I had met;
and suddenly I loved him, my eyes were then wet.
Another human being, I'll never judge nor condemn;
cause he may have walked, where I've never been.
How can I judge or condemn any man?;
until in his shoes, I walk and I stand
Can you see God's love in this? So you see Earnest, Mark and Tantrum are human beings with hearts, minds, thoughts and there beliefs, we have not walked in there shoes nor have experienced there lives so we should not condemn them nor pillage them with stones that is not what Jesus would do.
- ryankettposted 15 years ago
0Yes a splendid reply for represors
this is my answer for you as well:
Never !! I would never delete anything! Freedom is the first and last commandment. I think everybody has the right to post. And hubpages is about hubs. There are almost 500.000 of them !!
Oh good - the thread was needing a shot of humour to brighten it up
My point being there that man brought on the bad
God had already provided the perfectfully good
Sin caused the corruption.
Man fell as a result of sin.
The result of sin: evil, bad, corruption, greed, illness etc etc etc
God ensures a way out of all of that. I believe He shows us all the ways in which sin has corrupted, all the ugliness of what it is and what it does, so that we will turn away from it.
UNfortunately, this is not the case. Regardless of all the ugliness, pain and suffering, death and evilness it brings on us, we still choose to live a life full of it.And my point was - that is funny
- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
Everybody has the right to post. If someone is rude to you, answer back or just leave it. Lots of people have been rude to me
I can't care less
I thought this thread was for fun ????
This goes for atomswifey- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
AA actually can be a good thing for many recovering alcoholics. People who are not big on religion may have a problem with it because they preach a "higher power," but it does definitely work for many who attend. I think his comment is just directed towards his distaste to the higher power concepts, and he does have a right to feel that way. I do not think he meant anything personal about your aunt. By the way my sister's friend has attribute getting his life back together because of AA. One time she gave him a ride to work, and she told me how much of a more positive person he is now. Maybe write a hub sharing why AA can be a good thing in people's lives, that is what I would do
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And tantrums, and more tantrums, and more tantrums !!!
- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
I need to work on my crafts more
. I waste too much time in the forums lately lol.- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
I still have quite a bit, but I hate when I run out
.- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
When I lived up in the mountains it was hard to find crafting supplies too. Now I live next to Joann's Fabrics and Michael's, so I am pretty spoiled these days. Wish I had more money to go there more often because I can buy a bit much at times
.- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
You should try it them Brenda. You said I insulted you yesterday. Go back and read the post. I was replying to another hubber and you or your aunt were never involved.
- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
Actually I from the 'East' of England. I do live up North though. I am a Northerner to those from London, and a Southerner from those from Leeds
but I currently live about 20 miles east of Leeds, having just spent 3 of the last 4 years in Sheffield...... I am one of those people that has an affinity with both sets - despite being called a 'foreigner' by both. In fact, Im just one of those people that likes most people.... including the Irish .... my Nan had Irish parents...
I did notice that you have read a few of my hubs, I have been awful lately at reading hubs and replying to others - but I will take my time to check out your stuff soon!
Now that I know that your Irish though..... I will most definitely take all possible measures to ever avoid a conversation about religion with you I used to drink regularly in an Irish bar, my dad is a Celtic fan and it used to show the games, the nicest place and the nicest people you could find in Norwich....... until two people disagreed about religion!ryankett wrote:
Actually I from the 'East' of England. I do live up North though. I am a Northerner to those from London, and a Southerner from those from Leeds but I currently live about 20 miles east of Leeds, having just spent 3 of the last 4 years in Sheffield...... I am one of those people that has an affinity with both sets - despite being called a 'foreigner' by both. In fact, Im just one of those people that likes most people.... including the Irish .... my Nan had Irish parents...
I did notice that you have read a few of my hubs, I have been awful lately at reading hubs and replying to others - but I will take my time to check out your stuff soon!
I am from the north of England........ i live here that is all, and how did i know you were going to mention Leeds, i just. I was raised in a place called Dukinfield Tameside Lancashire, lived in Liverpool and Runcorn and then moved back to greater Manchester....... i think your warm hearted shines through keep going
Well I was trying to give an opportunity for the 3 of them to say what they would do to either have created the world they way they think it should have been or repair this present one. Allowing them to state how they would have things to be if they had the total power to do so like a god.
Honestly because they think that God is a failure and has allowed things to become a mess and He hates people and does not care about what goes on and has no love or things would be all wonderful.
I know 2 of them do not believe in any god and tantrum thinks he is his own god. So I wanted to again, ask them what would they have done or what would they now do.
And this is post #72 and I read all the others and to my surprise I saw that exactly one...1 post had an idea of what to do and that was from tantrum and it was like the 5th post and then an argument ensued and has continued for 67 postings as of now!!!
How very, very, very sad.....as an open opportunity to give an opinion on how to recreate the world and mankind was offered and it turns ugly before the 10th post is up. Sheeeesh!!! 
I know Mark and Earnest have not posted yet, maybe they are out for the day. We shall see ?
I wish the topic could get back on track though. They seem to have a lot of input on how...
“if God exists, He sure jacked things up and does not give a cow-chip about any of us and is spiteful and hateful and evil”....something to that effect.
I think it's odd that rather then OFFER a new CREATION...everyone wants to ARGUE!!!
I will ask again:
Where are the ideas from either the 3 or anyone else ?
Clean slate, what would you do.....
besides argue and complain ?Yeah....you seem to be the only one....are those all the ideas you have ?
Oh, and would my picture be happeneing still ?My creation would something different .Tooo looong 2 explain on a Sunday. rest day the Lord said !
Killing you was a joke. I will never do it. Would take half the fun of this forumGosh that almost sounds "friendly"....but I will not tell anyone or make it public. like in a forum or start a topic on it ya know?
It's good to have friends that are "1/2 a bubble off" it keeps you level.
\Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0And is better if you stay down under !
waterI was around when Jesus set up poor Judas into all that trouble
Cause tantrum and earnest like it.
It has a meaning to me, when I saw it I had a really great thought.
Made my day.
The insulting childish title of the thread says it all.
I do not see non religionists doing the same thing.
Naming hubbers you have never read and know nothing about personally to insult them publicly is too small minded even for your average religionists!I explained that to several people today and I think now they get it. I think anyone that knows you knows what a nice guy you are
.You know sneaker, you are a legend in your own lunch time.
You are pathetic! I ask questions, you have no answers. Take your book away and you are mute! He is secure in his beliefs and does not want to argue with those who have little respect. Wow, he is such a bad guy
.I agree!
I happen to agree with that too
And he doesn't hide behind some animated avatar either......
Not sure if you know your AA history as far back as it goes. The original docs. did not have "as we understood Him" in it at all.
It was changed to accommodate the others because they wanted to get more members.
Why is the little guy insulting?.. and once again you display your ignorance of alcohol!
How do you think your comment went down with those who have this disease? Why don't you think before you post!100% Recovered !!
I am not hurt. It would take a lot more than the ninth rate crap you write to do that!
No, I am just making the obvious point that you're a sock puppet with nothing useful to contribute!
He can't think. He's full of God's mercy !
Yeh, that sort of mercy we can all do without.
You will also note that make money and sneaker always change my name. Ignorance again. My name does not abbreviate to anything except maybe Earn.
Wrong name, from the wrong origins, wrong information about my posts, and any other lies they can think of to try to discredit. If we were in kindergarden it may even work for some of the youngest children, but my four year olds have outgrown it.Me too!
Thank you Colebabie you are typical of the modern educated and just plain smart young woman of today, as so many are here at hubpages.
I see Mark has not bothered to reply, so I would like to include him in the hubber Good guys.
Mark has some other websites and the thing is, even his commercial sites are written in no hype language, straight and honest. I would give Mark money for a product he recommended based on his honesty.
Of all the businesses I deal with online, no one is a straighter shooter than Mark Knowles.
Thanks earnest, I try
And I admire your kind words about Mark, I'm sure he appreciates it.Thank you Colebabie, it is just the truth.
Earnest, Mark, and Tantrum?
Gods ??? Llol:
They're not Gods. Just naughty little boys.
And what do they do?
Well, most of the time they play around in the forums, which is frustrating because their pasta is getting cold.
If they don't come to the table soon, I'll cancel their shift in the stripper factory.No, you posted the thread to try and put yourself above others, which is well in character.
What you got for your efforts is like computer programming. but a little different. In this case you put rubbish in, you get rubbished on the way out!
You have the psych age of a spoilt 2 year old.He does not understand the horror of this disease. I have seen it's long term effects on a relative.
I reckon it takes a lot of guts to stop. I do not pretend to fully understand, but I saw her fight the disease and lose, it was terrible.She was an angel.That is quite lovely AEvans! I may still be a bit sleepy, but I did not connect the reference to Mark and Tantrum.
Another human being, I'll never judge nor condemn;
cause he may have walked, where I've never been.
How can I judge or condemn any man?;
until in his shoes, I walk and I stand
there is the reference we cannot condemn anyone for there beliefs, we cannot hate them for what they believe or the comments that they make we have to accept and love them just the way they are.OK I understand, thank you for clarifying.
I do not hate anyone either. I do hate and condemn what they do sometimes though. I believe all of us dislike or condemn sometimes we are all human I have done it to but it certainly doesn't make you or I a horrible person. (( Big Hugs)) It makes us real
Like all people living in Australia as long as I have, I have met many wonderful people who would call themselves christians. They took great ideas of social caring from their books, as was their disposition.
These people have all been unconcerned with the details of what they believed, as it worked in their lives.
When I was a little kid, I used to walk past a farm on my way to school, and would drop in for a drink of milk out of the vat or the delivery tray if I wanted it warm. I was only a little tacker, and forgot my lunch and other stuff while talking to the farmer who liked me to follow him around.
His mother was quite an old lady with a smile that would light a xmas tree, and she always made sure I left with everything I needed, never told me off, and said goodbye to me with a big hug at the farm gate, making sure I would be there on time. I loved Mrs Dean! A doer of christian values she had decided to live by.
I admire that sort of courage too, even if I disagree with the source. You see, all the family were nice. The mother was a really nice woman, and I believe no matter where she took her values she would have chosen all the good ones!Now that is something to live by and that is what I do, attacking others is not biblically correct and it pains me every time I see it. That is a darling story and one I see that you have not ever forgotten what a story you could write.
Not only do I remember them, they are central to who I am. I was a weird kid, taught to listen and think for myself.
In my life until now I keep meeting ordinary yet heroic people.
I try to emulate the things that seem loving in each of them and meld them with myself and my spiritual beliefs.
Some encounters force us to re think, and this is where all the goodies are. I only prove that I learn nothing if I do not constantly grow and change with acceptance of other beliefs that I can see work better than the ones I hold now.
Sometimes our feelings get hurt. People sometimes do not even realize when they do it
.I feel I may have hurt feelings here at times. I usually come down hard on Illogical "proof" and that can hurt other believers who are not a part of the discussion.
I was not referring to you necessarily. I just think people are taking things out of context
. Personally I am not even sure why this thread was started. It seems like too much time on their hands you know. I am the type that is strong in my beliefs and opinions, as seen on the political forum. No one can offend me, and I go against the grain a lot.Just thought I'd fess up!
You know I felt sort of glossed over yesterday when I was trying to sort that misunderstanding out between you two. I shall never intervene again. Sometimes I think I go out of my way too much to get everyone friendly with each other again, and my efforts are not appreciated. I did go out of my way for you yesterday by the way, and I am not sure you noticed
.I appreciate your efforts, do what you have to the rewards and results are not in your hands.
"Keep going is something I have to do,
The fruit may come for me to chew."
There are times when ones intentions are good but they get contorted and misunderstood which you should not be so concerned about.Its the intent which counts the most, as long as your heart is pure - no problem .Dont feel bad , your intentions were good,you are welcome sweet SweetiePie.
Thank you
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SweetiePie, you did indeed. Like my princess of light you rode in, sword of truth in hand on many occasions.
I am a thoughtless baboon. I thought I had included you, and others here in some general statement about smart young women and other things, that in my mind, you would include yourself in.
You are another hubber with a strong track record of being yourself and generous of heart and spirit.
Please forgive me for my shabby treatment of a truly good person. NEVER, ever change because of such poor behavior.Okay I feel I may be acting too sensitive over the forums. I did not like you being called a bully, and I felt maybe I was acting like the tattle tale or something. Thanks for saying that
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Thanks AEvans, I always enjoy conversation with you!
No SweetiePie you are entirely within the bounds. I do apologize, it was thoughtless of me.
Friends? I like President Obama as he is trying to attain peace between the Muslims and Christians and its high time, I fully support him in this venture .
SweetirPie, I do feel for your position. You would fit in well with most Australian's take on Obama.
We have of course got reservations about a lot of American issues and how to resolve them, as they affect us so much as a small somewhat attached economy.
The huge difference is the humanity that is the man. Not easy to deny. He really is smart and savvy, engaging and sociable, decent and nice.
He has one hell of a job to do, and all America should get behind him as you have. I admire you for being able to stand alone in your views and would say as I did earlier that smart young women need to be heard. There is wisdom in the female slant on things that I think urgently needs listening to in politics. It encompasses empathy with intelligent solutions through feeling about it as well as thinking about it. As clever as thinking may seem, it is never complete without feeling included somewhere in the process. Just some thoughtsI agree, this is a long way from over, and that has not changed as much as some think. I do believe Obama will win through long term. I heard an interview on the BBC where he was portrayed by those who know him as solid and steady in a crisis.
Leta Sposted 15 years ago0Some are across the border in Arizona, no lie. Lotsa crazies here...we just came across a big Palin bill board on the highway today,
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And I guess there are whole small towns here with that 'flavor.' I've never met many people like this until now...as I've always lived in more urban areas.We have little of the extreme political views here.Some of the religious loonies really are scary in America. Logic and thought goes out the widow "I am always right about everything" replaces thoughtful considerations of the opposing view. Hell of a job running a country with the loonies loose in the political system!
Despite the fact that Parliament is opened here with the lords prayer and that we have a religious prime minister, we strongly oppose any interference by the church in politics. Closed to replyRelated Discussions
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