If there is a God, who or what created him?
I have struggled with this question for as long as I can remember. My path to becoming an atheist was shaped by many personal experiences and deep, personal reflection throughout my life. I am very open minded and tolerant to all discussion. This is a 100% serious question.
I do think God reveal that. However, the interesting thing is the various views of God. This is because some people belief we are gods. That is we can attain Godhood. some people belief God is somewhere, while some belief Jesus is God so the Jews once killed God. We can't claim to know since its said he made all other things.
The notion of God is as convoluted as one makes it; or it is simple in the fact that everything is God...
Checkout this essay to see a model of what god is and how this model fits your behavior in your search for individuality self and identity...
See ~ http://hubpages.com/hub/the-God-Myth-Th … lance-2011
Simple answer: nothing.
When you search for the source of a stream and find it, you don't have to look any further. When you find the highest point on a mountain, you don't have to climb any higher.
When an artist paints a painting, you don't need to ask who painted the artist.
Space, time, energy and matter are artificial constructs. They possess continuity and the other three within time possess persistence. That which would create such as these could not be made of these. The creative source of space would not take up space, it would be timeless, not require or contain energy, and certainly not possess mass. Each of these "things" can be acted upon -- they are at "effect." The source of these is at "cause." In the literal sense, there was no "before creation" or "outside of creation." These are mortal concepts of the creatures held within that created universe.
I have witnessed the creation of "extraordinary miracles" (the kind which circumvent the laws of physical reality. Some of these miracles were performed repeatedly. Each time, the result was instantaneous. I have also witnessed being outside of this physical shell (Homo sapiens body) with full visual acuity. Each of these events suggests that the true self, within, is not a product of creation, but a source of creation -- an immortal child of God.
Genesis describes "man" as created in the image of God; i.e. baby gods. For anyone to walk on water, part the sea or any of the dozens of miracles I've witnessed, they have to be not of this physical realm, but of the realm of creation (timeless, spaceless, without physicality). And Genesis does say let "us" make man in "our" image (plural). This is the spiritual part of man and, at one time, one with God -- currently a blazing amnesiac who typically thinks they are their ego and body.
(After 60 years, I'm still working on this answer. If you want a better answer, try me in another 60 years.)
david, loua and lonestar- thanks for your answers, I do appreciate the discussion
loua- thank for the link, i just read through it, but think I need to read it a couple more times
lonestar-very interesting answers
This question frustrates me, because I don't think there could ever be a real, provable answer.
No one "Created" God. He is the beginning and the end. Think of it like this, you imagine a world in your mind and now you end that imagination. We are God's imagination. Our "Time" is also his imagination, so the thought that there must have been a force "Before" God is based on man's Time orientation. Does that make sense?
Not since reaching the age of reason have I believed in God; at least not the mainstream version. I don't think that science has ruled out the possibility of a "creator." However, God seems to get smaller and smaller as we learn more about biology and physics. With that said, I feel it is entirely possible that a celestial entity started this crazy journey of ours and could have initiated the Big Bang. Though I don't suppose that a simian being sitting on a tiny rock in a random galaxy has any special place in teh grand sheme of things.
I really enjoyed the book "Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter. Although not a direct answer to your question it does discuss some related issues
This is a 100% serious answer and think about it. There is no who or what created him. There is only self existence from everlasting to everlasting. I personally know and experience this self existence on August 1, 1982 A.D. a Sunday morning when GOD shown me in a vision the other side of death. So I live with total recall of this vision and understand the true nature of GOD as we are created after GOD'S image and likeness. So cooldad GOD is real and welcome you to know him with open arms and who knows but maybe GOD will reveal himself to you like he done with me in a vision on August 1, 1982 A.D. You are loved by GOD like everyone else as human beings and GOD searches the heart of every human being to see if they truly want to know and have fellowship with him moment by moment which is the highest calling for human beings to have on the earth before they die and crossover to the other side of death. I have this kind of personal relationship with GOD and not everyone will be called to have this because it will cost you everything in this world and is a lonely travel while on the earth because people will not understand you and say that you are crazy. I have been called worst here on hubpages but it does not matter or bother me because I do know and walk with GOD as I fulfill GOD'S will and purpose for my life on the earth with " Daily Nuggets Moment AMBASSADOR BRANDON BUTLER " and answering questions like yours that is a 100% serious question with my 100% serious answer. GOD bless you and all of humanity.
I believe that Man created God in Man's image.
Before there was Christianity or any other sort of structured religion, people believed in many different deities who all had different control over various aspects of their lives. Gods and Goddesses of Harves, Death, War, Fertility, etc. It was believed that all of these gods had certain rules and "offerings" that they needed in order to provide for their believers.
Then other Religions started popping up and the beliefs changed to a "One God To Rule Them All" sort of thing.
The chicken came before the egg.
My 15 year old daughter asked me the same question just the other day.
Because of the desire in my soul to know who God is and the experiences in my life, Yes, God exists.
The problems come when trying to describe God.
Which is easier, physician heal thyself or philosopher know thyself?
Is it more important to know God and the difference that God makes or to be the difference that God makes whether we know God or not?
The question indictates that you are looking for a personal god, a "Father like" or "Mother like" or a "King like" entity who created and rules the universe. You will never get an answer.
This type of entity along with the rules books like Bible and Gita was created by man simply because man cannot live without rules and the ruler above him. And most of us believe in these books because at least they provide an answer albeit "unscientific".
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