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I spoke to God today and he told me that religion forums are evil

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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Should I visit a doctor or my chaplain?
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  Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  There have been 587 gods accounted for on the forums. Which one did you talk to? Some of them will contact the dr.and chaplain for you.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I didn't catch his name but it was god. he didn't mention a denomination.
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  Jonathan Jancoposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You counted?!
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  mistywildposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  hahahahahahhahahaha
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  drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  hahaha..awesome thread!
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  TimTurnerposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Isn't that funny? When people talk or see God, we lock them up and call them insane.
  
  Weird how religions works.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  It is funny, it a sick way but funny nonetheless. What else to do? Nothing ever changes.
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  lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Judging by your profile picture, you need a vet :-)
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  Rod Marsdenposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  When you are right you are God I suppose...or is THAT a dangerous thought?!
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yes, dangerous thought, and Bovine, I told you before, vet!
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  When I know something is right,
  Then with prayer and faith I must fight,
  God is behind me with all his might.
  
  Your thought is correct and not dangerous.
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  Bibowenposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  When you heard from Him, did he also complain about the notorious dangling modifier, not to mention the lack of parallelism and subject-predicate agreement? I would think it would get, at least, a passing mention...
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joshua7posted 7 years ago
I'm not sure of the god who spoke to you but it could have been the same one mentioned in 2 Corinthians 4:4.. 3. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Here is some more of the loving gospel!
  
  You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
  
  Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
  
  Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
  
  Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
  
  Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
  
  Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
  
  Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11
  
  Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5.
  
  Maybe this little god was the one!
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  pylos26posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  WOW...Earnest do you think loving christians have read and devoured all that?
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Short answer? Hell no!!
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  cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hello my freind,you are talking about the Mean God of Christians but there is a Nice God that talks to me all the time,just last night She spoke to me,She said"Tomorrow,linguine and clam sauce",you should try praying to Her cause she has some great recipes and shes pretty Hot to(sometimes she appears to me in the shower)...
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ah yes! It it the goddess Rumpole of the Old Bailey spoke of?
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  cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Remember this my friend.When in the shower always do what the Bible says"Do not let your left hand know what your Right hand is doing",You shouldn't let your wife know either..
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  cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  who is the God of this world?
  Are you Gnostic?
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glendoncabaposted 7 years ago
With very few exceptions the religion forum accomplishes more evil than good. And like sex is best enjoyed twice a week with someone you care for and would rather be silent than insult.
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2patriciasposted 7 years ago
At last - a 'religion' post with a glimpse of humour!
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aka-djposted 7 years ago
Just call it the "Atheists and Unbelievers Forum", and you will hit the nail on the head.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
"... I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." -- Genesis 32:30

"No man hath seen God at any time..."-- John 1:18
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
"... with God all things are possible." -- Matthew 19:26

"...The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
"The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father..." -- Ezekiel 18:20

"I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..." -- Exodus 20:5
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  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Maybe Ezequiel was an heretic.
  If not, something is very wrong there.
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  Rayalternatelyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  He'd be great in Scrabble, were he not a Proper Noun!
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
.he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. " -- Job 7:9

"...the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth...." -- John 5:28-29
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poetlorraineposted 7 years ago
so disrespectful i suppose all you people will be celebrating christmas will you...... how can you when this person never existed,,,,
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Xmas is a great time to give little ones presents!
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  Miss Takeposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  yeah but christ birth,,,, is the meaning but you don't accept him, so it is only the children getting presents, they must be confused as hell
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Not a bit! They have not had this nonsense forced on them.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  No it's not really. Christmas has been hijacked by the Christians. It's an ancient pagan celebration coinciding with the summer solstice. The solstice represents the closeness of the Sun to the earth, and the Sun is the symbol of the Solar Logos which is equal to the Christians' Christ Consciousness. Consequently anyone can enjoy this pagan day of celebrating the Solar Logos - or the Sun God, or that which represents Christ Consciousness. Also understand that because of the precession of the equinoxes there is a change in the days as the solstice day has changed. But to keep all things to some form of equalibrium and to keep the shop keepers happy, the 25th is retained.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Frankly - I wonder if any of these so-called "christians" understand anything at all about their own religion.
  
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Doubt it.
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  cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  OK,let me lay it out for you Mark.First there was God,but he got lonely so he made Adam,then Adam got lonely so God(for some strange reason)ripped out one of Adams ribs and made Eve(Adams ribs must have been in his butt cause thats where Eve seems to have been a pain),Eve wasn't cool with what God gave them so she ate some nasty fruit and then(like the naughty girl that she was)gave some to Adam.At that point Adam realized he was naked....
  
  I haven't gotten past that point yet cause I keep wondering what Adam must have said when he realized Eve was naked Too.IMO it was something like this:Stand Back Eve cause I don't know How big this Thing is gonna get(Think about it).
  
  Everyone stand away cause I should be"riding the Lightening" at any moment.
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  poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  what an absolutely horrible thing to say,.,,,, you are just so arrogant, and i am hoping you get banned for life of here, of course we know Christmas is pagan, but christs name is attatched to it.....
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  This is not a horrid thing to say, it's actually the truth. Sorry you see it as a falsehood Lorraine, but it is just not the case.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  The syncretised Church of Constantine is not the only form of Christianity. There are Christians who:
  
  Do understand the occult secrets behind the ancient calendars and numerology, so we say ...NO TO TRADITIONS, YES TO SOLA SCRIPTURA.
  
  There are Christians who:
  
  Don't pray to dead saints
  Don't pray to queen of heaven
  Don't observe Sunday
  
  There are Christians who understand the New Age/pagan pride when pagans see Christians defending pagan customs by twisting bible verses to justify pagan traditions.
  
  There are Christians who understand the agenda of the antichrist and that is why we say ...SOLA SCRIPTURA.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I believe in Christ but I am not a part of the Christian religion.
  I feel they believe the scriptures they want and ignore those they don't and they think they are the only ones of God. Also there is the interpretation problem they have.
  
  However could you explain the Christian/Pagan thing you said?? Who defends who and who does the justifying of Pagan tradition?
  Do you think the Pagans use the Bible to justify their beliefs?
  Or even want to justify them?
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  If you were following the thread my comments were responding to a statement which suggested that Christians might lack knowledge of the origins of pagan elements in the Christian religion.
  
  I (alas) took the bait and pointed out that not all Christians have disobeyed the Bible and conformed to the inserted traditions. Which traditions our New Age and occult friends are delighted to use to minimise the purity of the faith.
  
  I propose that all Christians should use such glaring clues as opportunities to examine the extra-biblical elements of Christendom especially post-Constantine. In other words, there is much truth to the the accusations by atheists and New Agers that Christianity has been influenced by ancient mystery religions. Even incorporated the pagan calendar into Christmas and Easter. Yea, this is true. But not altogether evil, because it gives Christianity an opportunity to tell the world about the story of Jesus. Like making the best of a less than desirable situation.
  
  It is the work of God's end time people to call out a pure church which rejects false teachings and relies on the Word of God. This calls for a work of reform and revival.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You speak in forked tongue, I'm not really sure what you are trying to convey.
  
  The purity of spirituality was bastardized by the modern interpretations of the bible. The church is the least pure it has ever been so I'm not sure if the post modern teachings are doing any good at all. Quite the contrary. So is modern teachings and modern believers what you refer to as 'end time' people?
  
  The most substantial influence of pre-bible teachings was a cleaner and experiential understanding of spiritual worlds and that included the Solar Logos and the knowing of an impersonal state of consciousness that one aspired to reach. The personalization of God and the teachings of being saved by a third person has distanced people from the real mystery schools. Teachings passing the ability to reach high states of consciousness (on the way to Christ Consciousness), are not passed by any Christian on these religious forums. The Romans entwined with political agendas of the church ensured that the masses were divorced from the pagan teachings, primarily because they had great merit and empowered the individual. Of course disempowerment and control was the aim of the Roman Empire. And whilst I can hear the retort that savagery reigned in Pagan times, look around and you will see we are only using different weapons, the separation remains.
  
  The anti-christ will sit beautifully on the spire of the Vatican and sweep all to it's bossom, thanking the impulse of the Roman Empire's forceful manipulation as it's best chess move ever. The modern versions of the 'Word of God' as passed to the world will ensure the dark side wins, it's already winning and the religious forum is great testament to that. Ahriman is smiling at his lovely Christians who have no idea they are honoring a false god also. Absolutely no body gets to the sanctity of a place of heaven or nirvana except through their own purified selves. The Luciferic agenda is to ensure you believe it is through some external being (Jesus) that this will happen. Jesus did it himself, what makes you think you get off that easy? Ignorance creates fools. From the mouth of the enlightened one: Forgive them, they know not what they do!
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I speak from the perspective of sola scriptura so when I speak of purity i speak of sola scriptura. Your perception of ambiguity is due to your lack of understanding my perspective which is simply that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God and the only rule for faith and doctrine.
  
  I respond in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Son of the Living God, and in doing so wish to say without any chance of ambiguity that when I talk of God's end time people I am talking about the ones mentioned in Revelation 14 who keep the commandment of God and have the faith of Jesus.
  
  Yea, I'm just an old-fashioned Christian who rejects paganism and believes in the entire bible. No forked tongue here.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ahhhhhh, now I understand. You have very forked tongue but don't realise it. Thanks for the clarity as I speak in the name of Jesus the Nazarene And your Sola Scriptura is by no means in line with the integral meaning of the Solar Logos.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  What is your definition of forked tongue?
  
  Are you suggesting that jesus was pagan?
  
  Are you suggesting that because I am Christian my religion must have borrowed from mystery religions?
  
  Gnosticism and other cults have tried but the Word of God endures. The book of Revelation ends with Jesus as the overcomer.
  
  Could it be that you have not done your homework on groups like Waldenses. On people like Hus, Jerome, Wycliffe, Erasmus, Luther, Calvin, Knox, EG White, etc.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Not suggesting Jesus was Pagan, but I would not lump him into a modern Christian by today's model. He would be disgusted and bemused. I am suggesting though that the Christian model was taken from existing spiritual models. Definitely.
  
  I do know genuine Christians who do understand the experiences of pagan mythology and have taken that into their own spiritual practices. In doing so their practices bring a life that does not come from scripture reading and preaching. Nor do they expect a savior to save them. I remember being so relieved to find such people as I was becoming concerned that the essence of Christianity, ie to understand Christ Consciousness within oneself and not pulled out of ones own self to adore an external false being, was lost. It isn't lost, but from what I've seen on this forum, it's such a vague concept to understand Inner work as opposed to adoring something external. That is the Luciferic agenda. Simple. And it's happening within the Christian fold. Considering the volume of Christians who follow an external doctrine, as a human race it is a great concern.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Sola scripture = Bible only. No sun worship being hinted at here.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I agree with you, the date has been shifted over a period of time. The astrologer speaks
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  pylos26posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hell...I just tag-along for the chicks.
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GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago
Hehehe...
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  poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  is that funny
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GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago
I'm a theist... you got me wrong, the thread makes me laugh... it is senseless...
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Truth hurts? This thread makes perfect sense. The athiests love it. Does that bother some people? I wouldn't say that their bother bothers me... Humour is a great cover I thought a little humour might'nt go astray seeing how non-believers have been crucified so frequently by the benevolent children of god (apparently we are created in his image?)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a Catholic...
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Could you please explain that in English? When did I say anything about you being Catholic and I am almost certain I have established that my feeling of self worth is not based on your opinions. You really think I could be disappointed? You don't even make sense, I don't expect you to so with no expectations I can hardly be disappointed can I?
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Cagsilposted 7 years ago
I spoke to God today and he told me that religion forums are evil.

Hey, you spoke to God today too?

So, did I.

Want to know what he said? He told me that I was living my life without and he was proud of my efforts to spread knowledge to those who don't know any better.

He also isn't too happy about 'religion' in today's society, because it's been abused by those who usurp power for themselves, at the hands of those who don't understand their own beliefs of him.

He told me that I had to come to the forum today and make it known that he is NOT happy with his supposed followers because they were not listening.

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  pylos26posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  spot on dude!
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Joel233posted 7 years ago
All of the people here mocking God are those who prayed without faith and didn't receive. Now they say God does not exist.
Sad puny souls, lost from the path. God lies within. It is their own mind. If their minds are mean God's they are punished with emptiness. Those who believe in the mind God have happiness.
For the guy here that is on every forum denouncing God it is because he is puny and his mind is tiny.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  
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Jeramiposted 7 years ago
Bovine Currency wrote:
"The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father..." -- Ezekiel 18:20

"I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..." -- Exodus 20:5

Jerami said
I think that this is a translation glitch.
To over simplify I think that Ezekiel 20:5 was talking about something like if the mother or father were crack heads or taking LSD that kinda thing, those iniquities would be visited upon the children for three or four generations. If the father were abusing the children this would start a cycle of abuse.

And 18:20 was referring to if the father was a thief cheat etc, and the son was righteous, the sins of the father would not be visited upon the son.
I could be wrong but that is the way I understood it when I read it.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I took it on face value Jerami. Heaven forbid we interpret the bible. Think of the bloodshed...
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
God speaks to you, too?
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  can't help it.
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Jeramiposted 7 years ago
Debra said...
I believe in Christ but I am not a part of the Christian religion.
I feel they believe the scriptures they want and ignore those they don't and they think they are the only ones of God. Also there is the interpretation problem they have.

Jerami... I agree... I would like to hear preachers of all diffrent denominations discuss this problem of interpretation differences with out coming to the ..TOO SIMPLE .. of an answer such as "All of yaul are wrong and I am right".
I would like to hear the answer that the "EXPERTS" come up with if they could all agree upon what scripture actually says without relying upon interpretation.
To come up with the commonalities and swear by that only.
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WriteAngledposted 7 years ago
Speaking of the coming Solstice, I propose we all raise a glass in the honour of Mithras, who was born of a virgin in a cave on that very day.

Sounds familiar?

Mythology tends to repeat itself in diverse communities.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Mythology was used as a simple way to make the people understand God and the human relationship to God and the lessons connected to them. That's why it repeats itself. In the Bible the shorter versions were called parables.
  
  You might want to look up mythology in the dictionary.
  When people speak, their intelligence shows. (The word is a two edged sword)
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  XTASISposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yes, that's true. When people speak their intelligence show.
  
  Parables are not myths
  Parables are examples of what is morally correct.
  Myths are fairy tales.
  Stories about somebody or something that is fictitious or nonexistent
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Parables teach lessons.
  So do Myths
  Both can be fictitious
  mythology
  noun
  1 a collection of myths, esp. one belonging to a particular religious or cultural tradition : Ganesa was the god of wisdom and success in Hindu mythology | a book discussing Jewish and Christian mythologies.
  • a set of stories or beliefs about a particular person, institution, or situation, esp. when exaggerated or fictitious : in popular mythology, truckers are kings of the road.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  A toast to the solstice - definitely. I'm doing a long term meditation soon which includes that day.
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  Make Moneyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Mithras was not born of a virgin. The myth goes that Mithras was hatched from an egg of rock.
  
  Mithraic Mysteries
  "The mysteries of Mithras were not practiced until the 1st century AD."
  
  Not practiced until the 1st century AD eh. Hmm, it seems like you have been lied to WriteAngled.
  
  Here's a photo of an ancient statue of Mithras being hatched from an egg of rock.
  
  The zeitgeist video and the Seventh Day Adventist church have been spreading a lot of fables about the early church over the last couple of years. But all these fables have been debunked by historical scholars - see zeitgeist video debunked or Take the Zeitgeist Challenge. Some people even believe that the zeitgeist video was published by the Seventh Day Adventist church with hopes of gaining converts. Fat chance seeing they are trashing Christianity in general. Maybe they didn't published it but they are spreading the same fables.
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earnestshubposted 7 years ago
Christians trashing christians. Wonderful! Just like in the bible!
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You are on every forum yet you didn't allow my posts on your hub.
  Must be you had no argument to stand against my words
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  No, I have allowed other negative comments on all my hubs, I only block the boring or inane ones.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  It's called Socratic reasoning ;-)
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Some such reasoning is obvious in the comments on my hubs, but 4 frantic posts from one recipient who would have voted me down for sure I do not need. My stats are good.
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  XTASISposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Only in your imagination. Nothing new or of interest, same old drone.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Deborah, I found your staccato of replies to be silly and emotive, not new to me, (I have been in these forums quite a while) I disagree with your remarks to the contrary.
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Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago
..I did not say that ...
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  XTASISposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  So what did you say ?
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Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago
What I said was....Religion is created by man , and nothing to do with my department
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  XTASISposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yes ,and that's why is such a mess.
  
  and your department ?
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Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago
Memo from God

I have shown you how to walk humbly
To show justice and mercy and what things are good...

Walk in it...
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  XTASISposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  good for you, if that's what you consider right.
  
  I'd rather don't receive a memo from any God !
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hey Earnest
  Thinkin too that even though judges can be corrupt , justice is still good ,if its truly just
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  True. Hope you are having a lovely day, I am!
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goldenpathposted 7 years ago
Not necessarily evil, however, the uselessness of many of the forums is a red flag or sign that we should be off our dairy air more often and out there helping and serving people. I include myself even though I spend twelve hours of my Sunday in my clergy duties in the service of my God and fellow man. There are still many people out there suffering and it is our obligation to go and do.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Amen!
  
  Thank you for the reminder of what is really important.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  We have invented many things that make us slaves -cars ,mortgages, hobbies, technology, etc
  
  How do you serve your fellow man ,may I ask?
  I am not in the clergy ,but I washed my neighbours walls for 4 hrs and soothed her sick child...then came home and played poker online and had a ball ..before doing my own work.
  
  I strongly beleive its what we think and do with those thoughts ,that matter to God than labels or accolades..or even public ceremonies -just my opinion
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  Presigoposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Eagle, you couldnt be more correct. I agree that our thoughts and intentions are truly what is important, and only our creator can judge that. Let us be of good heart and intent and let our spirit shine before us
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hey thanks, my lights been a little dim lately dealing with stupid govt departments and willfully ignorant companies who are quick to demand payment and too slow to fulfil their responsibilties.
  
  SometimeI just wanna take that lil light of mine and shove it somewhere else
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goldenpathposted 7 years ago
If any of us do consistently serve others I commend you. I would at the same time encourage you to continue further. Serve more in various ways. Only through losing yourself in the true service of others will you ultimately find yourself because you will have developed a unique faith and relationship with your Father in Heaven. In time as you serve you will find that your needs have been met.

Last evening I received a call from an individual not of my faith and asked me to come and administer a blessing to him. This was a great service opportunity. To help mend the broken heart. Three years ago at the break of dawn I received a call from a mother of six who's home just burned down. She begged me to come and administer to her unconscious son in the hospital. Another great opportunity. Helping a child with homework is another. The list goes on. It's called life. Service to others is religion in it's purity. Let your light so shine! : )
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  How does it feel to promote fairy dust for a living?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  The master serves
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Love is an doing work , hands on service without prejuice, without critism.
  Its about making and serving hot soup to a prostitute standing on the corner..
  Feeding a hungry person ,even though he spits on your God
  Helping a stranger without malice or hate because of the color of his skin or because he marches to the beat of a different drummer.....
  That is love , loving when you dont get loved (or thanked back)
  
  That is what it means to be a servant of Christs..and to walk humbly in his sight...
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Like soup is going to help. Get real. For all the good that so called missionaries do, religion stacks the odds that create those positions of poverty.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Its no the soup silly ,its the action...
  What would you do?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  The soup will be a great gift for someone hungry.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  A prostitute doesn't need soup, not the pros I know, they had plenty of money. You are missing the point tho, soup kitchens are a token gesture. If you don't get that, your loss.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  The point is to be nice and help those in need,to serve humanity.To make a difference however you can.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You are naive to those in need, that is my point.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Doesn't make any sense.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  To you. Thats the point. Again.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  The action? So can you help me here, seeing how I am so naive. Its not the soup? So what is it????
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Serving...one another
  Hunger -food
  Education -Schools
  Thirst-Clean water
  Unloved-Love
  
  If I have something someone needs , and I dont need it , I give it
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  TOKENISM
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Sounds to me like its more about you and less about the other. Token gestures. Standard christian practice.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  How is it about me?
  Christians are not the only people who serve either ,I neve said that, but you appear to have a problem with serving your fellow being?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  May be a token gesture but you still havent said what your gesture would be ,so Im interested if you want to help to just critise?
  
  Easy to point the finger but remain on the sideline huh ,or in your case left field
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  My gesture to those in need is to educate them about the evils and wrongs of their naivity.
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  goldenpathposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Amen! Couldn't have said it better...
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  nice understanding.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
I just had another chat to god, he said you are all going to hell. I tried warning you, religion forums are evil and you are willing participants. Too bad for you
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Moooooo..ve over
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Jolly good old chap, fine work, hohoho, aren't we good people, we fed the homeless and thank the lord for making us so humble. BLAH! You people turn my stomach
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  goldenpathposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  That's OK, you are entitled to your stomach being turned. We love you anyhow.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You don't love me and I like it that way. Keep your filth off me.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Humble people feeding the homeless turn your stomach?
  
  ????????????????
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  If it makes you feel better to totally miss the point, just make up your own answers, I see no point in communicating with someone who only ever asks rhetorical questions.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Why does humble people feeding the homeless seem to bother you so much?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  When did humble people start feeding the homeless?
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  A long, long time ago.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  When?
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  First time a humble person with food met a homeless person, I reckon.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You could be more precise. I am really interested.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  No, I couldn't.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Shame that. Thanks for trying.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I didn't try. There is no record kept of such a common act so far back in human history.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  So you are guessing?
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Nope.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Oh? Do tell...
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Just told ya...
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Told me what? That you can view to the beginning of time and see humble people feeding the poor?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You asked this question and when no answer was given you replied "Shame that. Thanks for trying"
  So why don't you give us the answer.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I will not try answer the question. The question was rhetorical. Such is the only way you people like to communicate so I thought hey, why not?
  
  I made my point long ago. You all ignored me and now as far as I am concerned we are just bouncing back inane comments. Just killing time for me.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Exactly it was a foolish question and you were only being rude to tksensei by saying "Shame that. Thanks for trying", whats the point? this is not an intelligent debate.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  What's the point? I am just playing your game and the same goes for tksensei. People in glass houses, mohitmisra.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  So one cannot have an intelligent debate with you?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  That really depends on the one debating. I am an intelligent, open minded, educated, reformed drug addict prostitute pimp nut job who has strong opinions about religion, politics and idiots, I don't blow smoke and I don't fall for cheap tricks or tickle egos.
  
  In other words, with you ? I'm not so sure. What do you think?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  So why ask questions which are not intelligent and then give attitude to the person for not answering the question?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  What about my question was not intelligent? I am not sure we agree on any of these terms flying around. Maybe that would help as a start. Maybe some consistency on your behalf would be bonus.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  The questions you ask are not very intelligent and then you just get rude, no intelligent debate with you.
  
  I don't see any intelligence around me then I do see intelligence around me, make up your mind.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Sorry, I don't speak pig latin. I have tried to lower my dialogue to a level you might understand but my efforts seem fruitless.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  S you believe it is a wrong act to feed someone poor who is hungry? I am a highly ranked religious philosopher , you are definitely not debating in my level.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You made that inference how?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  How? what a joke, don't you know what you write?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I do. Are you going somewhere with this?
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ranked by whom?
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Can you even dream of writing and getting ranked over Bibles and Qurans Cagsil? lower my dialogue ,
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You wrote the bible AND the Quran? WELL DONE!!
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You are unable to understand simple English .
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  really? That's news to me. Your opinion is rather opposite to the grades of my english professor but then again he only speaks 5 languages, translates english to chinese and reverse, has a PhD in English from a top 10 world university. On a side note, we often disagreed on the points of argument but he couldn't fault my english. Same story with my logic tutor
  
  If you care to qualify any of you claims against my english skills, go right ahead, I would love to teach you a little.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Can you even dream of writing and getting ranked over Bibles and Qurans Cagsil? lower my dialogue , lol lol lol
  
  You wrote the bible AND the Quran? WELL DONE!! big_smile big_smile
  
  Can you see the difference? What did I write and what have you answered?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Seems strikingly obvious. I was referring to lowering my dialogue and you made a huge leap to the language of the bible and quran. Where is the connection???? What am I missing?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I don't understand the reference to the bible and quran. What does that have to do with your language skills?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I can see you don't understand, ask your friend Cagsil to explain.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  At this stage, unless there is something to talk about, I'll just step aside because this is really really boring now and entirely pointless.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Great .
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hang around this could be interesting? Maybe, depending on how pathetic Mohit is going to be.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Your 'what' skills?
  
  "any of you claims"
  
  "my english skills"
  
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I'll take note of that one day, maybe when you write a paragraph. I made a typo champ, so what. Begging the question a little aren't you?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  If you can ask a proper question , you will get a reply, right now your questions are nonsensical.
  I said ranked over Bible and Qurans and you write I have writen these books and find it funny, and you have a great command over the English language.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Good luck mohitmisra. I am finished with this.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ah, just a typo. I see. Well, two typos.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  .............................................
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I write sentences, paragraphs, essays, you write sentences and usually questions at that. Get off your soapbox mate because its getting a bit worn out.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ok, so two typos then?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  really. I am actually laughing. I don't mind a difference of opinion but you offer me nothing in return, its as if you enjoy simply pestering others for the sake of it. Do you actually have an opinion on anything?
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Two more typos?
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  ....................................
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  It is inappropriate for you to insult him like that.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  That the first humble person fed the homeless a long, long time ago.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You tell us.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I don't believe it.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Don't believe what?
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Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago
Maybe its the mad cow thing

Cuz he/she sure as hell likes to ignore my points
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Cagsilposted 7 years ago
And, as I've noticed, Bovine actually has a point, but has failed to make everyone see, really his point.

There are some who are talking here, like it's good to do good things for the homeless and for those in need.

This is all fine and good. But, this doesn't address the underlying problem, which NO ONE is paying attention to in the first place.

The point trying to be made, even shelters, missions and other things like a pantry for food...isn't solving the problem.

And those who are here acting like it does....then you're fooling yourself, more than anything else. Because, the problem is MUCH GREATER than it appears to be.

Example: You say you're helping the homeless- but are you really....there are almost 50 MILLION Homeless in America alone.

There are ONLY 700,000 beds available Nationwide, through all sorts of organizations. So, please let's get to the underlying problem....before you decide you know what's best?

Please let's keep it real people. As for the topic- yeah there is evil in some of the people who refuse to admit when they are wrong, or when they aren't really paying attention to what's going on.

Ignorance is bliss folks. And, if people are going to be ignorant about the true power of people, then Humankind is doomed.

Have a nice day folks.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Nice one Cagsil.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  If no service is legitimate but what promotes someone's doomed fantasy of political utopia then nothing will ever be done and the net result will be less alleviation of suffering and the increased coarsening of the human heart.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Apparently you didn't read what I wrote, otherwise you've not come at me with this statement. If you're so damn ignorant and/or blind, then you would see the truth of what's happening, all around the world, not just in America.
  
  However, since YOU DO NOT want to address the underlying problem, then you're only will to promote the cheaters of our society, so you can benefit for yourself. Therefore, it leads one to conclude that your argument, as you have so clearly defined in your statement- you are NO BETTER than the cheaters of the world, who usurp power and wealth, at the expense of others and don't really give a damn about other people, unlike what you were saying about helping out the homeless.
  
  Please, get over yourself.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Be nice , there is no need for such language.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Go fly a kite.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  No intelligence in this reply.The believers are supposed to be rude , what a joke,
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Are you trying to provoke me?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You keep trying to step on my toes, there is a limit to my tolerance.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Step on your toes? You are really sad.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I think you are the sad one shouting on religious forum ,there is a no god, ha what a joke.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I really don't care what you think. Like I said before, you are NOT any different than the morons who are religious leaders or even government leaders.
  
  You usurp self-inflated egos, so you can justify your own existence. When in fact - you're nothing better than a drug dealing pimp a$$hole sitting on a corner.
  
  So, please....
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yup ranked so highly, only a moron can get ranked over Bibles and Qurans,someone intelligent like you can not.
  Your language reveals your class.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I wouldn't peddle the garbage you're spewing out, even if it was legal to feed it to my cat.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You are not enlightened, have no spiritual knowledge and will never get ranked over Bibles and Qurans.You don't have the knowledge I have.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Any rationalize human being who had a conscious thought go thru their mind, can see that you're not what you claim and you know what....I know for fact- the rankings on the BIBLE or the Quran, is supplanted by the church.
  
  So, you're measurement tool is way off base. Remember, the BIBLE doesn't have any facts in it. Therefore, your writing isn't an attestment to jack.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  sure you can get ranked over Bibles and Qurans and my book, all you got to do is write one sentence, that's all you know," god doesn't exist"
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Overdoing it a little? Take it easy.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Actually, no I'm not. Mohit isn't any better than the dirt he peddles.
  
  He uses his self-inflated ego to justify his actions, so he can believe it is morally right, when in fact- he knows there is no god, but say there is so he can continue on with his existence.
  
  To me, someone with complete clarity on life, knows this is what he is and don't need to be told, because I can see what he is for what he is.
  
  So, no.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  ranked 3 in the world in religious books and I am moron and a peddler, great philosophy Cagsil.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  And RELIGIOUS books are all garbage.
  
  Because of what religion IS? If you haven't figured that out yet....man you are really stupid.
  
  Religion is a BUSINESS, which you already know, because you use it to usurp your ego....which is BASED on a code of ethics...which are BOUND to a higher cause.
  
  So, again please peddle your garbage somewhere else.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ok, so you are bigoted against religion and religious people. That's up to you, but what do you hope to accomplish on the religion forum? Just keep telling people how stupid you think they are?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Off course add this line to your masterpiece as well, so now its awesome we have two lines in your book.
  God doesn't exist and all religious books are garbage.Such an intelligent statement.
  I suppose you should tell hub pages that they are stupid to have a religious forum.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ranked by whom?
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Please look at my profile.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I've read, and it doesn't mean a damn thing. You can redress the outside of book, but you can not erase the written contents.
  
  Again, it's irrelevant, kind of like you.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Seriously, come on with the insults...
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  People like him disgust me.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Kind of got the impression. The insults are still inappropriate.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Insults are subjective to one's interpretation. Completely bias based on your own knowledge of moral values. What are yours?
  
  Mine:
  
  Any CHOSEN action that is beneficial to the human organism or to society is MORALLY RIGHT and GOOD!
  
  Any CHOSEN action that is harmful to the human organism or to society is MORALLY WRONG and BAD!
  
  Emotions are amoral. Neither, good or bad. Because, by nature emotions are reactionary, due to cause and effect.
  
  Am I harming him? NO! I am not. Words are not harmful.
  
  Is he harming society? YES! He is morally wrong by deceitfulness in his thoughts and actions, because he peddles the lies of religion, for which, he himself knows is a lie, so he can gain stature in society.
  
  So, with that said- I'll let you figure it out.
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  No, you are clearly insulting him. You can do better. Come on.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Is he harming society? YES! He is morally wrong by deceitfulness in his thoughts and actions, because he peddles the lies of religion, for which, he himself knows is a lie, so he can gain stature in society.
  How the hell can someone ranked so highly, someone enlightened who has dedicated years of his life spreading god knowledge,someone who is trying to unite religions be bad for society.?
  
  Learn .
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Exactly my point. See, you can't even deny it. You're trying to unite religions.
  
  This is a falsehood in itself- So you admit to guilt to spreading lies of religion.
  
  Thank you have a nice day.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  What utter garbage.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Nothing intelligent to add so lets juts abuse for the fun of it
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  
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  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Looks like a big ego competition, but in any case the insults are inappropriate.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hey Cagsil, leave the drug dealing pimps out of it hey Some of us reformed without being born again
  
  Don't let them get to you mate, you can't preach reason to the converted. They are on a drug far greater (removed from reality) than you can buy on the corner.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I wrote a hub about the homeless ,so I do have some understanding of the facts and figures, but the point bovine failed to make was 'What is he/she doing about the problem?
  because its easy to stand back and critise , a lot more difficult to go and serve people without pay or acknowledgement ,like thousands do everyday....because they believe they serve Gods commandment to serve one another.
  
  Personally I know I cant feed the world ,but if everyone helped their neighbor, hunger and poverty would be greatly reduced IMO..
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Like a piece of string?
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Leta Sposted 7 years ago
Just reading this entire exchange is annoying, save Jewels substantial points above. It's like sitting in a class with insipid spit balls be thrown about. Is everyone going Marine/TKsensei or hoping to emulate Mark Knowles?

Of course people can make changes to help others. That isn't a solely 'Christian' concept, either.
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I agree, well said
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Number 3 huh. Richard Dawkins must be #1 or #2 because he sure as hell has sold more than you.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Its not by sales,sorry to disappoint you.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Not by sales? So.... ranked by what then? Your peers? Sounding like a fix to me.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Its a Book library ranking.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah, see fixed.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hows that?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Which book library? As I said, it sounds like a fix, probably a paid ranking or something of the like or such a small club. I once worked in a fish and chip store many moons ago and they refused to enter a competition becuase there was a fee of $5000. The winner was 'the best store in the city'. Is that your #3 ranking??
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Look at my profile I have put these rankings up earlier.Not putting them up again.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I looked at your profile. What am I looking at exactly? A world #3 writer in religion. Please...
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
I know I was going to leave but this is a new topic now. Why lie for.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Like grease to grease paper.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  If I do show you, will you apologies? Also will you promise me that you will never go to a religious congregation or forum and laugh at those who believe in god.?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Not a chance
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  So it doesn't matter of my work is ranked over Bibles and Qurans?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Not in the slightest
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Why? we are on a religious forum.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
You are kidding, yes? We are all in on this joke? Not just me?
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Look at the topic, I started this topic as a joke. You just played right into it.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Was sharing knowledge.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You call it knowledge I call it a joke.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Because you are unable to comprehend?
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Cagsilposted 7 years ago
I am done with this....have fun bovine.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
@Cagsil, they will not learn. It is that simple.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You guys will teach me
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Cya bud
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earnestshubposted 7 years ago
So Glendon, you take this literally?

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hi earnest, its that disarming smile of yours. its hard to argue with you?
  
  C'mon man you strike me as one who is too educated to ask such a simple question. Every book must be taken in context. Even shakespeare.
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  Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah, thank God someone said that. (lol, not about earnest's smile.)
  
  I guess they see theists as all one monolith and all of it is supposed to be funny. But it is a joke (yeah, a joke) looking at this religion forum most days, and the joke is a bit on them - as they don't apparently know the definition of 'religionist,' and somewhat see things as literally as those they say they abhor.
  
  OK! Had to say it...as it has been bugging me. Evidently 'atheists' quote, quote, are exempt from tolerance.
  
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  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I am not tolerant of being told that myself and family are going to burn in hell, does that surprise you? I replied to the willy waveadagga snipe, but the post went astray. no biggy.
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  Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah, Earnest, but that's a given. I'm not too fond of being told where to go, either. I've always known fundamentalists are nuts...obvious. But some of this stuff on these forums is beyond the pale...and doesn't strike me as honest. The (again, quote, quote) atheists here don't strike me as much better about things.
  
  There are people who have spent their lives studying and attempting to understand something maybe you cannot conceive of. Perhaps it is their path - who is to say? Who, as many here are so fond of saying, possesses "the truth?" I've been reading a lot of philosophy lately - all of the greatest thinkers have had different ideas about God. None can be described as 'religionists,' which is to say they are false thinkers:
  
  Religionist
  Noun 1. religionism - exaggerated religious zealotry
  intolerance - unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs
  
  2. religionism - exaggerated or affected piety and religious zeal
  
  It seems to me that many, many here on these forum can fit into the above definition, including the atheists.
  
  It's fine. It just honestly does bother me that people I like here are somewhat like this. And it isn't like politics - at the moment, at least in America, you can study that a little bit and basically know what actually is right. I believe spirituality to be something of an individual choice that should be respected (which is totally different than any adherence to brimstone and fire stupid indoctrination). Few here apparently see it that way.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Some christians believe christ has already come again, that all the biblical promises have been revealed, many many years ago.
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  topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Christ is back, check this out!!!
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAXaRcO25X4
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  very funny
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Pastor Manning

Check this one out! Classic sermon!!
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Do yourself a favor, click that link...soooooooo funny.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Here's one you might like. I cringe when I see this.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRMiRFJzIKA
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Jewelsposted 7 years ago
Sola Scriptura = bible only - well that says it all doesn't it. If you can't step outside the box, then enjoy being walled in it - exactly what the Romans wanted.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Please take into consideration that the OT existed before the Romans.
  
  And the NT was written largely within a hostile Roman Empire.
  
  The Church at Rome rejected pure gospel of Jesus and adopted the teachings of Simon Magus. But sola scriptura will cut through errors of Simon magus.
  
  Do you understand?
  
  God has providentially been restoring the purity even through the same Church in its early years by raising up great teachers to point them to pure gospel. Even before Reformation.
  
  Some, like Polycarp, were killed. While heretics like marcion taught errors.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  It is you who are not understanding. Please don't go down the condescending and patronizing road. Lillith used to get pissed off, now it's just tiresome!
  
  You need to understand the beginnings of the Word as the Logos and then from this point understand the meaning of Solar Logos. You need to get your head out of the literal scriptures of the Word being scriptures - it just isn't so. Then have an experience of an emanation of the Solar Logos. Then you are on your way to understanding what was known as a spiritual experience before your first transcribed bible was published. You don't have the experience because of your bible, you have the experience first, then it's written about in a book.
  
  Do you understand?
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  sola not solar.
  
  SOLA SCRIPTURA = BIBLE ONLY.
  
  unfortunate similarity to your solar focus.
  
  Tut tut.
  
  OK forget the latin.
  
  Just read 'Bible only' as apposed to traditions which allowed for pagan mysteries to be incorporated into Christianity.
  
  Are you deliberately misunderstanding me in order to preach your mysteries to me. I will listen to you without the strategy.
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  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I have read the term solar logos in a book by a Buddhist master in a "A Treatise To White Magic" Buddha and Jesus=same thing= enlightened ones or awakened ones.
  Jewels is correct about the experience being all important, one can never understand the true meaning of any spiritual book and not only the Holy Bible without a spiritual experience of god.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Pagan mysteries were incorporated into the bible, you just have misinterpreted them and then rewritten your bible to make it more ignorant friendly. There is no strategy at all. When I spoke about the solar logos I had no intention of you having a misunderstanding between it and your sola scriptura which means the one and only book. Mind you, that is such an arrogant term for a book that has been bastardized to death since it's first writings. I do understand you, I just have no interest in what you are passing. And again, if you clearly have no intention of having experiences nor understanding the original teachings then sad day for you. The Cathars who were early christians very much understood pagan mysteries. However, in the times of the Cathars these mysteries were not mysteries. Shame they were slaughtered. How convenient!
  
  The bible is not the be all and end all of spiritual knowledge, never has been and never will be a complete teaching of what's possible.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Sad that you can participate in a discussion without any interest in what the other party has to say.
  
  You spill paragraphs of ink talking about solar logos and when I correct you there is a total rejection of the importance of the correction. I am simply saying that the Christian who is sola scriptura will reject the extra-biblical heresies. This assertion of mine is a response to someone who said earlier that Christians dont understand the (pagan content) of the Christian religion. If the only response you can muster is to reject and disannul my point then you have no idea of the fundamental difference between the Roman school and the reformers.
  
  And I have wasted my time here...I should know better.
  
  And I have 9 more hubs to write for hub challenge today.
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Perhaps it's the way in which you word your content. It created confusion for me, apologies if I got that wrong. Clarity required however, that when I speak of the solar logos I am not making any reference to or connection to what you brought into the conversation - sola scriptura. It's not the same thing. If you intend to replace sola scriptura over solar logos then please be aware, it's not me who needs correcting. Do you reject the "extra-bible heresies?"
  
  Goodluck with your hub writing.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Thanks. Point taken. I could not help but thinking that you missed my earlier point.
  
  It appears that philosophically we are approaching the issue from two irreconcilable perspectives. But I appreciate the toned down language.
  
  Warning: Beware that the same old fruit from eden will promise an 'experience' which points away from God. Jesus is the way, truth and life.
  
  Check this poem on Simon Magus. The entrance of certain heresies can be traced to Simon Magus.
  http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Road-of-History
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  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Crikey (that's the Australian way of saying CHRIST!) Please don't preach to me, please do not warn me, please don't take a preachers role to me. Do it to yourself, but not me. So I'm not one to turn the other cheek easily so I'll respond by saying:
  
  WARNING: Beware that the same old fruit from Eden will promise an 'experience' which points away from God. Your Jesus is not the only way to truth and life. Get with the program glendoncaba. I'm doing very well and no thanks for your unwanted concern. That's as toned down as I want to make it. I'd much rather have the experiences of a higher state of consciousness and not be told about it. And in that department, the church fails miserably. Oh! I should say for clarity sake, the church excels at telling you, fails miserably at teaching you how to have the experiences.
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  glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I thought that i was thin-skinned! No use sharing a view that disagrees with you guys. Thanks to hubpages forum and other recent encounters I have learned to be a bit more tolerant of dissenting and even hostile views without getting upset.
  
  You may enjoy talking to Christian charismatics. They come closest to your paradigm as far as importance of the experience. I believe (no doubt you will say not interested in my belief etc)in spiritual life which is based on primacy of Word (logos)
  
  Peace.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Excuse me but it is the Solar Logos
  She was right and didn't need correcting. you say she won't listen, but it's you not her.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
Manufacturing consent - The propaganda machine at work and,

Chomsky on religion

Noam Chomsky is the daddy of realism

Check it out.
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tksenseiposted 7 years ago
Chomsky is a brilliant linguist but just another extremist dope when it comes to politics.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  hahahahahahahhahahahahhahaahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah!!!! You are the expert over chomsky now??? LOLOLOLOLOL : HAHAHA
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHbi97GM … re=related
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tksenseiposted 7 years ago
His field of expertise is linguistics. The rest is just opinion that is worth about the same as that of any other hysterical old partisan crank.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Strange as this may seem to you but I never posted that for you. I wouldn't dream of converting you to the truth.
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