Do you believe that "what goes around comes around"?
Is there some kind of cosmic justice in which good deeds are ultimately rewarded and likewise, bad deeds ultimately get punished? If you have been wronged by someone, do you feel the need to get revenge?
I always say, no good deed goes unpunished. It seems to me the more good deeds I dish out, the worse "luck" I have.
I have never felt the need to get revenge. There are times when people have wronged me and I try to focus on my own goals. It's natural to feel betrayed by others, but attitude is everything. I live by this rule: "Love is not based on feeling. It's a determination for a desired outcome."
That usually keeps my mind focused and healthy.
However, I really do believe what goes around comes around. Not that I would wish anything like that on a person. When I've been wronged by people, it amazes me the devastation that comes to them later. Much worse than any revenge I could ever dream up. I try not to have a mean spirited bone in my body. Living well is the best "revenge".
Karma is the ultimate answer for everything, good or bad. You reap what you sew. We my not always see the results, but they are not getting by unnoticed,
I do not believe in cosmic justice per se. I sort of believe in what goes around comes around but probably because I have just heard it so much.
Have you ever known some really wicked, evil, dark person personally that lived to be old age and seemingly lived a peaceful life, got away with murder and worse....I have.
But eventually, even if a person gets away with something, in the end, God will punish them.
I do believe living well before those who are mean spirited or betray you in any way is the best revenge, but God says we aren't to seek revenge but to pray for our enemies because THEN God will reap hot coals on their heads.
I have also known some really angry people who have done malicious damage to another human being yet come out in the spotlight as being a great person. That one has always confused me!
I have come to learn this idea of karma exists - if not in some quantitative measurement of universal energies and their co-existences and balances, then at least at a base level in the consciousness of the doer. All people know good, although they may not always choose to do good. But we know when we haven't, and our perceptions and further actions are based upon these experiences, thus perpetuating a cycle of action decided upon either out of force of habit, or the conscious decision to choose an action based on better consequences.
Considering revenge just eats up the time, focus and energy I could be spending creating something here and now. No need for it, and in the name of awareness and capability and being functional in my reality, I prefer not to concern myself with it. Though if I were wittier, or craftier... lol, come to think of it, maybe I don't need revenge because I've never been very good at it!
Be well.
No, it's just a saying that makes some people feel better. Plenty of great people die and starve to death daily. Plenty of horrible people live to the ripe old age of 90 while living it up. When people rid the thought of those who do bad will ultimately be punished, maybe we could start actually working to fix the problems of this world. Until then we will continue to let pedophiles out of jail and hoping some extra world will fix all the wrongs that never get justice.
I was greatly wronged for the first 14 years of my life. Justice has never been fully served and it never will. The end. No point for revenge, just moving forward.
I can see through your perspective. I also believe that some of us get the worse end of a scenario and are never truly vindicated. I'm sorry for what you have gone through.
I like your answer. I'm sorry too for what you went through.
Peeps, totally agree, especially w/ ur analysis that belief in some after-life-justice holds us back from fixing the problems of today. My former husband shattered many lives by r divorce.He apparently is happy and respected now and forever. Amen
Yes I do believe it happens, eventually. That doesn't mean bad things never happen to good people. I guess mainly I think that if you have good will toward others, for the most part, they will have good will toward you.
We have been made to believe in this saying, since childhood. You may see sometimes, it does happen, at other times it may not.
Regarding the need to take revenge---No, I do not think of taking revenge, if someone has wronged me, which has happened with me, no doubt. I do not want to waste my time and energy thinking about it. The past is gone, we can not do anything about it.
It is wise to focus on future goals rather than thinking about a person, who was not sincere with you.
If I was wronged by someone, I just let it go and not worry too much about it , otherwise I will get stressed. I am forgiving but obviously I won't forget what bad things that others do to me if there is. I believe that those who do wrong get their punishment someday.
SoundNFury (btw - love that Shakespeare passage reference to your name:) I think one of the most difficult parts of life is accepting the illogical part of our human existence. While we yearn for there to be some kind of cosmic justice, I believe there is none. When we stop trying to appease our discomfort with that fact by essentially lying to that logical part of our brain that demonstrates that there is little justice for many with our unfounded hope of a cosmic or after-life justice, it is then that we can focus more on creating justice on our planet by ourselves. Perhaps that is our calling on earth - our reason for being - not to believe that some higher power or cosmic unknown will even things out. It is for us to advocate for justice for each other - for each individual whether that be for the Trayvon Martins in our neighborhoods or the people in Syria, Somalia, all over the world suffering and dying for nonsensical reasons. When we stop trying to prove how wronged we ourselves have been and start opening our souls and listen to others' stories, we will be more driven to tap into the finest part of our human nature and be of help to the world rather than of harm. When we, as individuals or as a nation, look to revenge for offenders, it's as if we are reverting to that ancient medulla oblongata part of our brain where only autonomic unconscious functioning occurs. When we forgo revenge and do the more difficult, tedious work of focusing forward whether as a nation, a family, or an individual, we create our own "cosmic" justice.
Not always. Like some others that I've read here, I have experienced incredible wrongs done unto me, much of which was very early on in my life, that were never made right, they were never sorry, they never tried to make a mends, etc. and still to this day live like the world owes them something and that they are above reproach and actually have distain for me for knowing what I know about them. Needless to say that for me, it's hard to believe in infallible karma. Although, to be very honest, I'd LOVE to be witness to it!
MysticMoonlight, love your comment and the humor at the end. It's something a person can't understand unless they've experienced grave injustice done to them. Someone once told me the only way to handle this is to make your own life exceptional.
Thank you, Billie. I agree, living greatly is the best revenge of all.
Yes I do. Call it Karma, fairness, or just the force of nature. I think that the good we do returns to us as good and the bad as bad. Even though at times it doesn't look like it because you see so many people whom I would classify as bad, continue day in and day out to succeed. There are many levels of success however and it shouldn't always be measured by the size of one's bank account. You never know what those people might think or feel when they look in the mirror. Further, you never know how very happy someone who is of modest means might be with themselves and the life they live, especially if they are a genuinely good person. I believe that God rewards good with good and while I don't believe that He serves out bad things, I do think he lets the consequences of our actions take their toll in our lives as a learning process. As far as revenge goes, the old adage "it is a dish best served cold" is pretty solid advice. Most often, if you wait long enough, justice has a way of serving that "dish" itself. At least that has proven to be the case in my life.
yes, i believe that what goes around will comes around that means the bad done to us by someone will surely be paid by them i.e after some time they will soon get punished for what they had done to us...
Moreover, the good deeds done by us to anyone never gets wasted, rather they are always rewarded with the good results in future...
So just have some patience and try to do your level best to do good deeds to everyone and you will surely get huge benefits in future...
Karma? Yes - I think this is a very valid way to view reality. It has certainly always seemed that way in my personal experience.
I don't think 'punishment' is necessarily the right term to use however. The suffering that we encounter in ourselves and in others is a lesson for the soul. It is not a punishment, but an opportunity to come closer to an understanding of what we really are.
In ancient Vedic culture of East India my Hindu friends explain the laws of Karma as the cosmic justice. A spirit soul is allowed freedom to engage in numerous activities however, there will be a sequence of events that will follow based on what they do. Karma works in two folds, immediate karma and a delayed karma. For example you break the law and get caught, you get arrested and have to go to court. That is immediate karma. The delayed karma is that because you have broken the law, even after you have done the time, the event stays on your CORI and may prevent you from getting good work in the society.
In some instances that karma may come in the next life. This idea also helps to answer the question why bad things happen to "good" people. The answer is we do not know the karma that each individual so has accrued over the many life times that we have lived.
Best wishes.
Dhira Krishna das
I do believe that what goes around comes around, even if not in the exact same way, but you see people who have wronged others, and when you look at their lives later on in the years, you see that they are the ones not truly happy, in some way. I never go for revenge, as the person who you want to revenge, seems to do more damage to themselves by just leaving them to their own devises, and you are content knowing you have done no ill.
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