Christianity doesnt make sense WHO AGREES?
Christ did not name Christianity after his own name, either.
Islam is known as Muhammadism because he invented it. He was a murderer and a despot.
I would suggest studying the bible and finding out.
Hi Faybe! Yes I would guess he would red it. The starting with creation bit may elicit a response!
Thanks. I like the part about fleas, Rather a flea than a Hybrid any day.
Fleas do have some advantages don't they?
Needing something to live off makes them a wee bit vulnerable though, as none of their hosts seems very happy about having them round for dinner!
- Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago
0Seems your well versed in that quandary, my man Marcus.
You are correct it is religion - any type of extreme ISM is.
For and now against, a loathing wolf still hunts, still hungers.
Even at the head of the curve, leading the pack - is still alone and still loathing his pride. I heart atheists The bible scare people? Why would it do that?
From the "good book"
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
No attempt to frighten people there! - ShadowKing!posted 15 years ago0
earnies sister is here
golly how does one bastardize a name? Perhaps you can explain that too me. lol. Can't a guy have a little fun
:loL: hmmm, i better see what the dictionary says before i get you to research anything:
to lower in condition or worth; debase: hybrid works that neither preserve nor bastardize existing art forms.
2.
to declare or prove (someone) to be a bastard.
3.
Australian . to harass or humiliate as part of initiation into a college or regiment.
Oh my it seems the auzzies have their own dictionary meanings! Perhaps you should have tried a bible written in australian or maybe that was the problem
- ShadowKing!posted 15 years ago0
I'm not religious, so you'll have to get an answer from someone who is of some sort of religion. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to discuss it with you.
However, I'm more inclined to take a different tact, one which probably wouldn't go over well, considering I am of the school of thought that says there is no god.
I hope you get an answer.
This may help to explain a lot of things.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/12/god_boffins/Well, if an invisible sky fairy dunnit there may be an answer to your question.
Some how I find that less likely than the FSM.
Ah, yes. Your god is much nicer!
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
So much different to the quoran.
NOT!and i had a bunch of bad teachers in school and i stopped going to school because all schools are the same and i'm not sure if they are teaching the truth, i mean after all isn't history written by the winners of the wars? and most of the complicated math is really just a theorem, isn't it? Oh, i will never attend another school because that grade 7 math teacher was so bossy and mean... I will just home school myself and see how far i will get! -
Welcome to school
Time is not absolute, there is no universal clock. Time is measured relative to other clocks and is affected by velocity and gravity. It is termed as time dilation.
For example, you are traveling at near light speeds in a spaceship. Your clock appears to be ticking normal, but if you observe a clock that is stationary on a passing planet, that clock will appear to be ticking very slowly.
The same goes for gravity. If you're way out in space and you observe a clock on the surface of a planet, it will be ticking slower due to the gravity difference between you and the surface of the planet.
All GPS satellites have been programed for both of these time dilation phenomenon. If they weren't, no GPS unit would ever work properly.
Hope that helps.
If you had read my one hub on religion you would know that I find your comment to be what it is. Condescending.
When you tell me to "see his love before it's too late." You are assuming a superior knowledge and a better understanding of religion than I have. I challenge that.Pretty hypocritical also. I wonder if they are even aware of what they are writing?
I have come to the conclusion that religion rots your brain to such an extent that followers are incapable of seeing the obvious contradiction in, "I am not judging you, but....................."
And the implied threat - before it is too late.
What a loving and PATIENT god to put up with you for this long.
Hear, hear...
Welcome back to reason My Goddess, it's been a long wait I know Misha. I always figure it is best to walk in thine shoes first before I tell someone that if you keep walking in shoes that don't fit, it causes blisters.
Sandra. I have enjoyed reading this honest post. I am very impressed!
I would whisper in his brothers ear to build and ark, put all his worldly possessions on it and watch as I rain down and drown his brother in a flood.
Maybe a pillar of salt is easier.
Why don't you link to them then? I would be curious to look, if they really do exist.
Because Misha, the Vatican has locked up the scriptures, so as to be the only ones access to them. Including historical references in Roman history with regards to him. Only specific access is granted to them.
I think ya would not be so happy to discover what is in the secret files Jerami. Seems to me - they had some evidence in favor of Jesus actually existing - they would be sticking it to us - don't ya think?
Sure - that is why you were arguing that there is evidence - which then proved false.
Hey Jerami, would you be surprised to learn that the prophesy you claim to be coming, has already happened, long before you were even born?
I am suggesting to not take anything Paul said in the NT at face value, because Paul used a literal translation and not a metaphorical understanding.
Not to mention, that the actual penmanship of the scriptures with regards to the NT were not done for some 60 years after Jesus was executed.
It's unfortunate, that I'm unable to tell you where I received that information, but my research found that the apostles were waiting and waiting for the resurrection to occur, so long that they began to die and realized that they had to pen as much as they could remember of Jesus, so as to keep it from getting lost. Not to mention, I found out that two apostles actually copied from another. Thus, destroying the accounts of witnessing of anything.
Thus, Christianity was born so much time after the death of Jesus.
I have been hearing everything you say Jerami.
Sadly - I think it is complete nonsense and I do not agree with any of it - it is simply blind faith, and/or defending your religion (why it would need defending is beyond me) and very much answers the question "Christianity doesn't make sense WHO AGREES?"
But - everything you say is extremely good at distracting from the fact that your religion is irrational nonsense - doesn't it? I mean - let's talk about prophecy and the fact that you think 50% of the so-called "Christians" are working for the bad guy.
Try this revelation instead - Christianity is the beast that divides and conquers. Man did they ever get the amount of heads miscalculated though.
or maybe they rightly believe that obeying other peoples fairies is a nonsense and they are amazed that people could still believe in it?
True, not our problem.
I find religion to be a problem though. A problem that effects the entire planet.
The world would be a better place without any of it in my view.So you are starting to change the world to your view one hubpages at a time
You talk about what christians preach but what do you preach? You see a problem and its your absolute duty to perpetuate a destroying attitude to make the problem that you see, everybody elses' problem.
Perhaps the big problem you see, is not everybody else's problem, you only go about putting the problem you see onto everyone else and if they don't listen you will resort to name calling their god and calling it rubbish. I am so glad the world is in your hands. I always figured you wanted to be a dictator.Title of the thread:
"Christianity doesn't make sense WHO AGREES?"
Too lazy to read it huh?The definition of insanity is at least in part worshipping invisible entities, especially psycho ones.
Nah! That couldn't be it.
I know eh, Their blindness is obvious and their tactics as unloving as ours are claimed to be. Yet their zeal toward disruption is quite impressive although tiring. I guess some people if they don't evolve or go forward they get stuck, like a broken record. Armed with only a few rounds of ammo, they have to use them over and over again.
Its sooo cute they believe what they believe. Too bad they miss all the pearls we throw at them.I just think it is cute that no matter how you try to besmirch others with your ignorant passive abuse, you keep showing who you are. That is amusing the hell outta me!
Knowledge is objective. If knowledge were subjective then knowledge only lives as a shadow on the wall. -quote me, Sandra Rinck.
Very true, if you listen to the Christian destroyers, they don't believe in a god but they do believe in the Magic Combustion!
Christian destroyers...sounds like a heavy metal rock-band or something
I think that's their next step. They'll probably write a song about the Mystical Dynamite that rocked the universe.
Cosmologists have been playing that song for years...haven't you heard it?
Yes, it has been discussed in science class. But I think what they want to do is embark on the Mystical Dynamite Mystery Tour and have massive sing-a-longs. They hope to grow a movement out of it.
Nice to see some common sense posts.
That's where the blind religious insanity comes in.
You do not have a little fun, you caste aspersions on people in the belief that makes you somehow better.
My country as an argument? My name changed?
Not funny, not intelligent. Just sad narrow minded childish crud.CRUD:
a deposit or coating of refuse or of an impure or alien substance; muck.
b.a filthy, repulsive, or contemptible person.
c.something that is worthless, objectionable, or contemptible.
d.prevarication, exaggeration, or flattery.
crud cannot be funny or intelligent or narrow minded or childish; by definition now that was funnyYou can read a dictionary, great! Crud is also in common use as bulldust.
Yah, cobbie, like we have bulldust over here in the other part of the world...
What was your point, as usual i find myself asking that question againI'm not surprised! That Australian word you are looking for would be cobber.
A larger percentage than the yay-sayers I would guess. Some one recently likened the X-tian religion to signing a TOS agreement - no one reads it - they just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree."
See 2,000 years of fighting over what it ACTUALLY SAYS.
Really? You insult my intelligence by suggesting I do not know the actual meaning when I spend all my time telling self-professed christians that my problem with their religion is the fact that 1, they do not know what their book says and 2, they do not follow what they claim it says in any case.
That is the problem with yay-sayers like yourself - you think you have all the answers and do not read anything else. Which is another reason I do not like your ridiculous belief system - it teaches hubris, laziness and an inability to develop a system of ethics you are prepared to adhere to.
Case in point - instead of acknowledging the fact that it has caused 2,000 years of wars over "interpretation," - the real problem is the nay-sayers.
Try listening to what other people say instead of just attacking them for not believing the nonsense you believe. I know exactly what your book says - despite the fact that it has been mangled beyond recognition.
Guess you just want to attack and fight huh? Like what your book says to do?
No, it's not to say I told you so, it is to stop fantasy parading as fact from going unchallenged.
Not one piece of evidence or any proof exists, even after 2,000 years of this bull.
You have no evidence, Zilch, nothing.
That was a nice level headed reply SearchingForTruth!
Thank you for the compliment.You follow a bunch of lying old goat herders repeating and modifying old stories that came before them you mean.
Jerami - that nearly echoes my view of the driving life-force I believe inhabits us all. To call this force "God" and personify it with attributes of a human is not only fallacy, it is attempting to define the undefinable. At best, the definition of this life-force is that it drives us to be our best, to dream, live, love and achieve. It is a higher awareness of oneself and the surroundings we are in. It is what separates us from the animals walking this planet.
Science is the exploration of this life-force. Religion is the exploration of faith. Sure, I see the stars and I hear astronomers talk about scientific exploration of space - have I seen other planets with my own eyes? No. Have I seen photographs and images of other galaxies and marvels beyond my understanding? Every day. On the other hand, defining life as God is more difficult. This is an attempt to personify something and define it when nobody really knows. You can't see "it", taste "it", smell "it", touch "it", or hear "it" ... yet "it" is defined as God. I cannot trust in doctrine that attempts to define the undefinable. We are mere humans, capable of understanding and researching those things which we touch and can explore with our bodily senses, but something that massive and ever-changing ... that's impossible.
To attempt to say that people had visions and that they must be right and true divine intervention is attempting to talk madness to me. Many people have had visions over the years since human consciousness has existed, and not all of them were exactly pleasant. Sounds more like a popular story that gained a following, and over the years of being passed down, had more people claiming visions, supplementing stories to make them more plausible and/or more interesting, eventually being written down and now being used to attempt to convince all atheists, agnostics and questioning people that they are wrong and this Bible is pure divine truth just because men from way back when claimed it was.
From the beginning of human consciousness, we have always needed guidelines on how to act, lest we were to kill ourselves out and eradicate humanity entirely. Stories like this gained far more popularity as time went on, with people claiming healing due to this deity and peace due to that one. It calms people and makes them feel safe and secure knowing that there's an answer to everything laid out right before them in a book. I agree that a lot of the teachings in regards to treating our fellow humans with dignity and respect are a good idea for us to follow, but do not tell me it's because of a humanistic God who will condemn us all if we turn away from Him.
FYI I was raised Baptist Christian, used to revivals and holiness baptist preaching. I believed as much as my little heart could possibly believe. I didn't want to offend this "God" for fear of being in hell for eternity. I began to read the Bible regularly and nearly nonstop. The more I read, the more it didn't make sense. The more that contradicted itself, the more unsettled I became. At 8 years old I began to look into the other religions and research them as much as I was capable of. What I found astounded me. These stories that were passed on by word of mouth before being written down had been adapted to each religion as each had chosen what they believed.
The basis was always the same - defining the force behind humanity. The force that made us as intelligent and aware as we can be about our existences. Defining how we should act, how we should treat others, and the consequences that would take place should we refuse to submit and live by the doctrine. Each religion is different in ways, but all believe in that one divine entity, regardless of how it is named. All attempt to define that force. All attempt to set forth rules and guidelines to follow, and a few people in each religion are always trying to kill and/or persecute others for not believing as they do.
You can't attempt to define the undefinable. It is bigger than anything you or I can even attempt to understand or explain. Exist, and be glad you do. This force is in everything that lives and grows, but it's not an invisible man in the sky who is all knowing (make people think that even when they're completely alone that God can see and hear them and what's in their hearts and minds = guaranteed to freak them out and make them avoid whatever they were planning), all seeing (same as last part ... who wants someone watching them 24/7 ... it's creepy), and who loves you unconditionally until you question the religion.
Live your lives attuned to the good you should do on your own, be a mature and respectful adult, and read more into those books you tout as being the infallible word of God. If you would, you would also see that each verse is basically prose defining actions and thoughts and emotions that occur in the human mind and body. It is a way to carry yourself and treat others. It is not a dictatorship ruled over by an invisible deity.I didn't know that the study of science included copying and pasting from a web site run by an ex-dairy farmer who is out to make a quick buck:
http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q9_his … bible.html
Long post to be based on a false premise.
There is no god..
Your god is all in the little bit of brain danglin on the spinal cord that controls fight and flight!
Religion is flight!
How many pray daily for enough food to eat only to die of starvation?
Oh that's right! They haven't found god yet!
If I ever find your p*ss ant god I will throttle it! Your whole premise is based on pure unadulterated bulldust.Sorry, but what you've posted has already been researched by others and has not been found to be valid evidence. It is old news.
You also fallaciously ask in return evidence that god does not exist, which can't be done because you can't prove a negative.
You say that those of us who may be wrong will have eternity to think about it - what makes you truly think that your "spirit" will exist when your body is dead? Seriously? It does not state that your spirit walks the Earth, Heaven or Hell after death. It states that your body sleeps the eternal sleep and later after the return of Christ that the souls of the righteous would join God in Heaven ... either way I have nothing to fear.
Either one way I'm wrong and I sleep eternally with no difference, or two, nothing exists beyond death, period.
Sounds pretty much the same to me.
I do think that Jesus lived as a human on Earth at some point - however I do not believe that this man was TRULY a divine incarnation of God. I believe that a story was started based on a dream, a vision as some call it, and Jesus fit the bill for the story's main character.
Yes, the Pleiades exist as a grouping of suns ... Yes I follow science in their exploration of the universe as best they can. This is neither a scientific nor a prediction debate, but rather one of what this force entails. Honestly as far as the "predictions" I believe a majority are simply coincidence and therefore inconsequential. People love bending happenings to suit themselves and this is no different. What better way to gain a following than a monumental "I told you so!" moment? LOL
You have your opinion and I have mine - I have released myself from the ties of religion and look at all things objectively. You won't change my mind, so arguing said points is fine in general debate, but don't attempt to criticize those of us who don't bow to your God as though we are going to face eternal flames. If I believed in that, it might do you some good ... with things as they are, it simply leaves you baseless and arguing with thin air. Religion is operated by blind faith and emotion - I have no blind faith, nor do I let my emotions guide me. Good luck.Says YOU!
Says YOU!
I'm sure you've seen a lot, especially haven't an extremely low level of consciousness, it's no wonder.
You peace is what you are not about. Otherwise, you would not be bothering voicing your "beliefs". It's obvious you lack knowledge and wisdom of life, just by your words, you get everything you know, from a book that was man-made and meant to control humankind.
And, you're correct about one thing- there is no reason for you to argue, considering everything you claim is conjecture based on the bible's stories. If you truly understood Jesus, then you wouldn't have any belief in a god.
You did not post any science that I saw, but you may be pleased to know you are about the dozenth religious dummy spit I have seen here in 18 months. I say good riddance!
No need to reply to this.
For those with eyes will see.
I could hurt laughing at the cruel jibe.
Is honesty that hard for you to handle?
Apparently it is. I did no name calling, actually it was you.No, a dummy spit is an action, not a person.
It is when someone storms off in a huff.
So far you have called me an idiot and told me I am going to hell.
So, with the able assist of the sky fairy, you threaten my life and abuse me, but that doesn't count cos goddunit!
"As a child I as taught that "athiest" were evil" no prejudice there either!
So, an indoctrinated hard core religionist is it? My favourite!
Source?
The bible today!
Quoting a well known religious apologist!
Oh so much awTHORATAY!
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